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>> thank you. we have new reporting on what president trump will do the bipartisan spending bill. "new day" continues now. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. >> good morning, everyone. welcome to your "new day." it is wednesday, february 13, 8:00 in the east. we begin with breaking news. two sources who have spoken with president trump tell cnn he plans to accept the bipartisan deal to prevent another shutdown. however, a white house aide cautions nothing is guaranteed, as we learned in december when the president rejected the last bipartisan deal so many people thought he would sign. the president is not exactly embracing the current deal. it gives him only a fraction of the $5.7 billion he demanded for the border wall. we are now just two days away from the federal government running out of funding. the president is under, of course, pressure from prominent republicans to sign this agreement. sean hannity, maybe the most important voice in president trump's ear at times, indicates he's now okay with the president
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taking this deal. >> the president declared overnight the wall is already being built. the fact is zero new miles of barrier have been built during this administration -- zero. what's the play here? and a new cloud of uncertainty surrounding the russia investigations. why does michael cohen keep dodging congressional testimony and what's with all the stories floating that robert mueller may never issue a public report at all? want to bring in dana bash, margaret talev from bloomberg news and chris cillizza, reporter and editor at large for cnn politics. the breaking news this morning, dana bash, comes from you. as usual, you are hearing from the white house he's signing this. this is going to get signed, there will not be a shutdown. >> that's what the president himself is telling people. i spoke to two people who had direct conversations about it with the president. the message that he's sending is
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really similar in private to what it is in public which is i'm not happy about it, i don't believe congress is doing its job, i should have gotten better but i don't want another shutdown. when this deal that was negotiated in a bipartisan way on capitol hill gets through congress, gets to the president's desk that he does intend to sign it. also keep the fight going as we have been talking about for many, many weeks here. the president is seriously considering -- maybe more than seriously considering -- executive action of some sort using pots of money he knows exist in the department of homeland security, the pentagon, maybe even go as far as a national emergency which does cause other issues politically with his own base in congress, but the point is he wants to keep the political fight going and that's not going to change. >> chris cillizza, since the president didn't get what he wants, he didn't get an agreement to build a wall.
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he didn't get the $5.7 billion, it is an interesting psychological exercise and study to see how he's now spinning it to, i guess, himself and his twitter followers to feel good about this. so he tweeted last night regardless of wall money, it is being built as we speak. which is not true. >> no. >> this is what he's now saying. i guess i'm struggling with whether or not that is digestible for the people who felt so strongly about building a big wall. >> well, it's digestible, alisyn, if you believe they believe anything he says. but, no. you saw this in el paso this week. he said, well, the wall is being built already. as we have said many times, the wall is not being built already. he said, well, they are building in the rio grande now. that's a 14-mile area. this is not donald trump's big
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wall. i do think there is an element of them or a block of his supporters who believe whatever he says even if it changes from monday to wednesday. so maybe it doesn't matter. remember, at the start of the congressional negotiations, donald trump said it's all a waste of time. now per dana's reporting he's likely to sign what came out of the waste of time. what he said yesterday doesn't really matter to today. it doesn't tell us anything about tomorrow. >> he seems to be making it clear he is going to do something else or try to do something else, get some other money, margaret. we had a senator from oklahoma on last hour. republicans are making a distinction between declaring a national emergency which they don't want, or reappropriating some money maybe where you wouldn't have to do that. they say, go ahead, do that. if you can do it without declaring a national emergency, fine. >> right.
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from congress's point of view that's one of the most powerful parts of congress is the power of the purse. so if the president really forces the issue, if he declares a national emergency, how he does that could force some republican hands to counter him and make efforts to block him. no one in republican leadership wants to do that right now. do you remember how once upon a time like for the first year and a half of the administration, the president kept saying maybe we should have a shutdown. maybe a shutdown would be good. after a while you realized that's what he wants to do. he's waiting for the time to have a shutdown. it's begun to shift to maybe -- well, over the last two week, maybe we should declare a national emergency. or at least take executive action. for quite a while now the white house and all of the trump administration has understood they may need to look for pockets of money. that's why you are starting to hear in his conversations with lawmakers, republican lawmakers
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over the last 48 hours or so increased signs that he's willing to go ahead and sign this, say it's not sufficient and say the fact that it's insufficient is going to force his hand to take executive action. but the real question is how much money can he get to through executive actions that stop short of the national emergency. that's why republicans on the hill as well as in the administration are scouring pots of money to figure out how close to $5.7 billion can he get. if he gets close to it, it's still 55 miles of fencing, not 2,000 miles of border barrier. >> good news though, the wall is already being built so we don't need that $5.7 billion. >> you asked before, if the wall is being built already why did we have the shutdown? >> and why do we need the other pots of money? for the viewers at home, here are some of the pots of money where he could get it. not all of which require an
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emergency declaration. he could get $680 million from treasury forfeiture funds. that sounds like burning a hole in the pocket of congress. the pentagon's counter-narcotics funds which might be defeating the purpose of fighting drugs at the border. $3 billion from the army corps of engineers and military construction funds. it was interesting to watch sean hannity monday night when news of the potential deal started leaking. he was very exercised about how bad the deal was. he was worked up in a lather. he's somehow worked his way around to liking it. here is sean hannity on both sides. >> $1.3 billion? that's not -- not even a wall, but a barrier? i'm going to say this tonight and we'll get into it tomorrow.
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any republican that supports this garbage compromise, you will have to explain. i'm not as conservative as some other conservatives. there are a couple of ifs. step one, president decides to sign the compromise which would guarantee the $1.375 billion down payment for the wall, okay. that money can be used immediately. >> it was a garbage compromise but now he's not as concerned. >> he's not as concerned about the president signing it. i can't believe i'm analyzing sean hannity, but he has the president's ear and it matters. what he said which is what i was told from the jump by a conservative house member who really has his ear to the ground on what's going on with the conservative movement and also in the white house which is that, again, the president now
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understand understands the very, very bad move of shutting down the government. he gets it. he saw it. it happened. ending with the faa having major issues with planes in the air. that's no small thing. you know, they have to get through it. he's not happy about the deal. sean hannity isn't happy. but he has to keep sort of a good face on it. he has to keep the fight going which is why he's going to continue to do that. congress isn't doing its job and talk about using the money you put up on the screen with his pen which is also a bit ironic for the conservatives to be okay with that after calling democratic presidents who used their executive power imperial presidents. >> executive action was the worst thing in the last administration. now it's, well, it's okay. we don't mind so much. maybe, chris cillizza, ted cruz has an option for the president which is to get the money from el chapo.
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seriously. >> yeah. >> there is something satisfying about the idea. >> $14 billion of assets el chapo controls and he thinks that should go to the wall. >> mexico will pay for the wall after all. i think they are looking for ways to bridge the delta between $5.7 billion and $1.375 billion. there is no way around this. donald trump, to sell this to the sean hannitys, the base of the party needs to look like he's not taking a half loaf or really a quarter loaf. >> how about no loaf? >> right. that's the problem. he has to be able to say, i think, look, i'm getting the money. we are going here, here, here. we'll get the money even if i have to declare a national emergency. it's an interesting idea as it relates to el chapo. i always think legislatively
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these things are more difficult to make happen when you think, oh, look, they do have all the money over there. i'm skeptical. >> color you skeptical. chris, margaret, dana, thank you very much. meanwhile, vice president mike pence and secretary of state mike pompeo are in poland shoring up alliances in central europe and talking about middle east security. this is a live picture of the vice president speaking to troops at the airport in warsaw. cnn is live in warsaw with more. atika, what's the latest? >> reporter: both officials have u.s. troop engagements today. secretary of state pompeo watching a live fire exercise. this is really key to driving home one of the goals in poland to show that the u.s. wants to be engaged even more in central europe to push back on russia, china influence. poland is particularly receptive because they are concerned about
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russian aggression. that's why for poland it's key to have u.s. troops here. listen to what secretary of state pompeo had to say about the u.s. presence here. >> we understand that when there is a vacuum, others will seek to fill it whether it's the russians or the chinese. among my mission statements on this trip was to demonstrate america's continued resolve to work alongside countries in central and eastern europe and nato and the e.u. to deliver security for our countries. >> now that's one of the goals of this trip. the other is to really rally u.s. allies around a containment policy against iran. this is really the centerpiece, the conference on middle east piece and security. th it will kick off with a dinner and vice president mike pence is expected to give a speech explaining the u.s. policy on
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iran. >> all right. thank you very much. will we ever see the final mueller report? a long-time associate of robert mueller wants to temper expectations. sometimes, bipolar i disorder can make you feel like you have no limits. but mania, such as unusual changes in your mood, activity or energy levels, can leave you on... shaky ground. help take control by asking your healthcare provider about vraylar. vraylar treats acute mania of bipolar i disorder. vraylar significantly reduces overall manic symptoms, and was proven in adults with mixed episodes who have both mania and depression. vraylar should not be used in elderly patients with dementia, due to increased risk of death or stroke. call your doctor about fever, stiff muscles, or confusion, which may mean a life-threatening reaction or uncontrollable muscle movements, which may be permanent. side effects may not appear for several weeks. high cholesterol and weight gain; high blood sugar, which can lead to coma or death; decreased white blood cells,
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a new poll shows a vast majority of americans, 81%, want special counsel robert mueller's report on russia to be made
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public. we may never know the full extent of the findings. joining us now, garrett rapp, author of "the threat matrix, inside robert mueller's fbi and the war on global terror." shimon, i was minding my own business yesterday when i glanced at twitter and saw something from you. you were retweeting a "usa today" piece which went into why and how mueller -- the report may never go public and we may never hear from him at all. you retweeted it with the note, i'm leaning toward this happening. it is my opinion you are one of the most astute reporters on this beat in america. when i heard from you "i'm leaning toward this happening." we may never see the mueller report or hear from him it caused me to pause. >> first, thanks for the compliment. here's the situation for the department of justice and here's why i believe this.
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what's happened in the past, certainly under james comey when he went out and spoke about the hillary clinton investigation, we have seen a lot of backlash from the department of justice because of that. certainly the people that are in place at the department of justice now, rod rosen stein, deputy attorney general overseeing the russia investigation. he was very much opposed to what james comey did. in fact, it's one of the reasons they say he was fired. and william barr, the incoming attorney general also was very much opposed to what james comey did. so how could the current department of justice under the incoming attorney general, the current deputy attorney general possibly talk about an investigation that could contain people that have not been charged. how could they publicly speak
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about them in a report or other fashion? secondly, i think parts of the investigation, parts of the case are going to live on perhaps for many years in the counter-intelligence world. the fbi and the department of justice don't want to talk about what they have learned and what they have. the other thing i think is the idea that this report will somehow answer all of our questions about whether or not the president colluded, whether or not other people colluded and connect all the dots and bring everything together beautifully and nicely and tell us everything that we may want to know, everything the american people want to know, that's not going to happen. there are parts of the investigation that we are never going to know about. we'll see if anyone else is charged. everything so far we should know and has been publicly out there is out there in court documents. whether or not we see more, i'm one of those people who believes we may not see a lot more in terms of the investigation for a while. >> you're one of the people i
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tend to listen to on the subject because of how closely you have reported this. another person now saying it and i'm not sure if you are saying or spinning we may never see anything is the president's former lawyer john dowd. listen to what he's said. >> i don't think there will be a report. the rules of the department say no report. i would be shocked tif anything regarding the president is made public other than, we're done. >> garrett, do you take him at his word? >> i don't take the president's lawyers, former or current, at their word any time they are speaking. i do think that what shimon is saying in terms of we are not going to get all the answers we want out of the report is likely true. i think people have this idea that there will be a 9/11 commission-style moment where there is this voluminous narrative, 800 pages instantly
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published and available in every bookstore in america overnight. i don't think it's likely what we are necessarily going to see. one of the big questions though for bob mueller is so far he's been totally focused on what we might call criminal crimes. you know, federal violations of criminal law. there's a larger question, and this really is what's ultimately going to end up in congress's jurisdiction of sort of political violations. you know, there is a voluminous amount of things that may not be a technical federal crime but are things we don't want in american politics. this is something that sally yates, former deputy attorney general has been talking about. there is a lot of stuff that may not be technically criminal but stuff we don't want a presidential campaign engaged in. how does bob mueller deal with the category as he reports out
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what his findings are. >> and it may not be up to bob mueller. let me read the code on special counsel. this is code of federal regulations, 600.8 closing documentation. at the conclusion of the special counsel's work he or she shall provide the attorney general with a confidential report explaining the prosecution or decisions reached by the special counsel. so mueller gives it to -- it will be william barr as of later this week. we don't know if it will include political wrongdoing that may be illegal, but it is up to william barr what to do with it. he has to inform congress what he's seen but doesn't have to hand over the report. >> there is another model we saw during watergate which most people don't realize where the special prosecutor in watergate turned over to congress or was prepared to turn over to congress before nixon's resig nation something that was more of an annotated index of
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evidence, exhibits, grand jury testimony pointing to possible crimes and violations. >> shimon, i am perplexed by how michael cohen keeps skipping out on congressional testimony again and again. i'm not sure we are getting a good expra nation f pra nagpr p. he says illness, health. some wonder if it's because the mueller report might be coming out or handed over to william barr. do you have a sense if the timing of the conclusion of the investigation is weighing on cohen's actions? >> it could be. a good indication would be february 28th date he's now set with house intelligence that he'll appear before them on february 28. it is very perplexing as to why he keeps rescheduling. we know that one of them had to do with the investigation.
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he was fearing for his life and his father's life. saturday he was at dinner at this restaurant in new york. it's fashion week. he's out there celebrating, hobnobbing with people, hugging, saying hello. the day before he's supposed to testify before the senate intelligence committee he says, i can't come. i'm sick. i don't feel well, i have health issues. they're fed up with him, too. >> we are just about out of time, but a lot of political reporters clear their calendar for february because they thought something could be public. is that still a good idea to clear your calendar for february? >> i think february is a good date. i think everything now points to that certainly. but the question is what happens when william barr gets in. do things change? that's the question. we should have an answer soon. >> great to have you with us. thank you very much. mexican drug lord el chapo convicted on all ten counts and faces life behind bars.
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notorious mexican drug lord el chapo guzman is facing life behind bars after he was found guilty on ten criminal counts. his legal team plans to appeal. joining us is his defense attorney. thanks for being here. guilty on ten counts. he was described as looking stunned in the courtroom. what was his response. >> he wasn't stunned. i think he fully expected it. this case was impossible to win. i think he was convicted before he came to america. the press, international press, american press completely buried him before the trial, through the trial. some evidence came in that was not permitted into the trial, came out during jury deliberations. >> like what? >> horrible things about him that were not true. we were not permitted to fully cross-examine the witnesses. our hands were tied before we
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got in. he fully expected this. >> there were 56 witnesses against him. >> that's a big case. i'm not saying it was an easy case. the case was literally an avalanche of evidence. if you can believe, i haven't lost a case in 11 years before this one. we never had a chance. >> what did he say to you after the verdict? >> he tried to keep our spirits up, if you can believe it. i was sad because it's hard to see anyone in a cage knowing that he'll face the rest of his life there. no matter what he's accused or convicted of. he was very strong. he was supportive, looking forward to the appeal. he thanked us. as a defense lawyer you don't want somebody saying, you screwed up, i could have won. >> what did he say? >> keep fighting. i'm not giving up. you don't give up. >> prison hasn't contained him in the past. >> in mexico. the prisons, the government, the judicial process, it's crooked.
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>> you say this time he will be. where will he be? >> super max. it's not an issue. no one's ever escaped. we think the extradition process was unfair. we don't think he should have been brought here. secondly, in the trial we were vastly restricted on cross-examining maniens wiy wit. one witness came in and believed the earth would be destroyed in an apocalypse. believed in 15-foot aliens roaming the earth looking for gold. it suggested that perhaps he was insane. we weren't allowed to cross-examine. >> some of the evidence jurors heard were about private jets filled with cash, bodies burned in bonfires, evidence of mr. guzman drugging and raping young girls -- >> the jury didn't hear that. >> never mind -- >> false. fake news.
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>> this is what came out in trial -- >> false. fake news. they heard about some of that. never heard about him raping girls. that's fake news. >> did they hear about the heroin production of the cartel? >> of course. that's what the charge is. >> that killed so many americans. >> perhaps maybe one american was killed. >> i'm talking about heroin. >> oh, in terms of the impact of heroin? it's horrible. the problem with america is getting rid of chapo has not changed anything. the drug flow hasn't changed. the violence in mexico hasn't changed. what we need to figure out is why are americans so hell bent on doing illegal drugs. the need for the drugs causes the cartels -- >> i think the production of the drugs doesn't help either. is this a man who deserves to be free? >> does he deserve to be free? i'll tell you what he deserves. this is america. he deserves a fair trial and that's it. does he deserve to be free? i'm not god, not the judge.
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i'm here to provide him with constitutional rights and that's what i do. no matter how much everybody hates him or how much the media hates him, the prosecutors hate him, the judge. i'm here to fight. >> everyone is entitled to a defense attorney. should you have put him on the stand? >> i don't think so. that was a tough decision. we went back and forth on it. i felt if there was a chance we had to win the case or get a hung jury would have been destroyed if he took the stand. he was in isolation for two years. he was bleary-eyed the entire trial. he wasn't in a position to help himself. >> what was up with the mistress testifying, his wife and he wearing similar outfits? >> you know, trials sometimes come with unusual things that pop up. i have had stranger things happen during trial. this is el chapo. par for the course, i would say. >> we'll be watching to see what happens. jeffrey lichtman, thank you very much. >> thank you for having me.
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a disease once eliminated in the u.s. now causing a state of emergency. the outbreaks that have parents rushing children to be vaccinated next.
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the u.s. national debt now tops $22 trillion for the first time. it's gone up by $2 trillion since trump took office. christine romans has more. remember when republicans, christine, really cared about the national debt? >> now the new grim financial milestone for america. as a candidate donald trump told "the washington post" he could get rid of the national debt in eight years. instead, it's swelling. the treasury department showing the debt topping $22 trillion for the first time ever rising shortly when the obama administration approved big stimulus funding to rescue a collapsing economy. the debt began to level off at the beginning of trump's term and surged again after the 2017 tax cuts took effect. the lower corporate tax rut cut into treasury revenues. it shows america's revenues are
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on an unsustainable path. without an explosion in economic growth, cuts and taxes public debt could rise to 93% of gdp by 2029. that's enormous. this matters to american families. a debt that size has to be paid for. the interest crowds out spending for education, social safety nets, infrastructure. each family's share of the debt is just over $172,000 or $67,000 per person. with deficits rising add a trillion in debt a year. this is something budget experts say is reckless. >> not supposed to happen whenb. if the debt is swelling you're in trouble. demand for the measles vaccine is surging. dozens of confirmed cases of the disease have triggered a medical emergency. cnn's nick watt has more from clark county, washington.
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>> reporter: baby steel has cabin fever. hasn't been allowed outside of the house for 14 days and counting because he might be infected with measles. >> we go out on the front porch, run around. that's the highlight of the day. >> reporter: but measles is no laughing matter. measles can kill and -- >> it is exquisitely contagious. you can be in a room where somebody with measles left two hours earlier and get the disease. >> reporter: this outbreak in washington north of portland now officially a state of emergency. clark county publishes a list every day of places infected people have been. the trailblazers game, the airport, the costco. did you shop there? measles was eliminated from the country in 2000. the cdc says measles can spread when it reaches a community in
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the u.s. where groups of people are unvaccinated. an infected traveller from ukraine in the midst of an outbreak reportedly came here over holidays and -- >> we have large unvaccinated populations here. >> reporter: steel is still too young for the shot and was in the doctor's waiting room the same time as an infected kid. >> for the longest time we said if they don't want to vaccinate, that's not my problem. it's become my problem. >> people are afraid despite the evidence to debunk the association with autism. >> reporter: washington state law allows parents to opt out. lawmakers now debating a change. >> literally hundreds of thousands of people in my community have been involved in the issue. >> reporter: anti-vaxxers protested outside. >> many patients who decline are from different religious groups and many are in the russian population here, too. >> reporter: a large community
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from the former soviet union. edward russo runs a russian pop station and hasn't vaccinated the kids. >> if you read the fine print somewhere it says there is a possible fatal outcome there. some possible fatal consequences. that gets you worried. >> reporter: officials are eager not to blame one ethnic group. they hope information and fear fuelled by this outbreak might now change minds around here. >> with this outbreak i definitely think i need to put it on my schedule soon and get it done. >> reporter: vaccination rates in clark county last month, three times the norm. clark county, washington state. >> speaking of health, president trump's annual medical physical was last friday. >> i remember that. >> why don't we know any details? >> that's a great question. >> about his physical or his
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president trump had his annual medical physical last friday. the president's physician says he's in, quote, very good health and i anticipate he will remain so for the duration of his presidency and beyond. that's what he said but we don't have details beyond that. no information. last year's press conference in the white house briefing room where the then white house doctor, dr. ronnie jackson, revealed a lot about the president's health. dr. sanjay gupta joins us now. what do you make of the fact that we have no details from the physical? >> it's worth -- last year the physical exam was done on a friday. then there was a remarkable press conference on tuesday. so we know a lot of results can
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come back by then. we also know it is possible that the president even had some of his testing done at the white house residence before he goes to walter reed. they have lots of capabilities within the white house to do some of the testing. the results are probably out there somewhere. they are maybe being analyzed. when president obama was president, sometimes you didn't even know he was going to have the physical exam and it could take up to two weeks to get results back. it's all over the map. what drives that, what and when they choose to release isn't clear. last year was a different story, john. releasing the results, putting the white house doctor out there to talk about it, it was remarkable. i had never seen anything like it. here's a little bit of how that exchange went down. >> just to be clear, dr. jackson, he is taking cholesterol lowering medication. he has evidence of heart disease and he's borderline obese. can you characterize that as
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excellent health? >> based on his current cardiac study his heart is healthy. i think he's doing a decent job with cholesterol. the dose of the medicine is very low. he takes a low dose of cholesterol medicine now. we have a lot of room to increase that. >> there were a lot of recommendations then. dr. jackson made them to the president in terms of his health. what we don't know is were the recommendations followed and what's been the impact of the last year on the president? >> how much information is revealed? what do you think would be the bare minimum of what we might learn? >> first of all, there is no requirement to even have a physical exam. there is no requirement to release anything. so just in terms of what's required, there is nothing. the bare minimum typically is something like what we have already received which you read. the president is in excellent health, we expect him to remain in excellent health. so giving
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trump is older than those presidents, there's more concern about his health, this seems like they're going to release more, we just don't know when. >> specifically you would have questions about his weight and also heart health given the statistic in findings from last year? >> absolutely. i think that's the big thing and what was striking to me was they did not release as part of the official report or within that press conference the details of a sophisticated heart test known as the coronary calcium test, it was only after they were pushing on that that they actually revealed the results and that the president has a common form of heart disease. >> nick watt went to washington state to look at the measles outbreak and that was character we met inside that piece and it's worth addressing what he says. it was a radio hose saying i'm sure there's some side effect we don't know from the measles vaccine and that may be why we don't get it. is there any reason to fear that? >> well, think of that radio
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show host. he talked about fatal outcomes as a result of the measles vaccine. this is a vaccine that has been used a lot all over the world so when you have something like that, you have a lot of data and there can be adverse reaction but let me give you context, at least when it comes to severe allergic reactions. the idea you can be struck by lightning, you can see number 1 in, 14,000. die in a plane crash, one out of 188,000. a severe allergic reaction to a measles vaccine is literally one in a million. i'm not just putting the numbers up there, that's data. can you develop a rash, temp temperature, soreness, symptoms after a having seen? absolutely. the vaccine stimulating your immune system to work, that can make you feel cruddy for a few days but it's not the severe reaction the radio show host was talking about. >> and it can keep you from guettel measles so how important is it not to just vaccinate your
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kids but do it on schedule? >> a lot of people say hey, i'm vaccinating but i'll spread it out and that is a little bit of a copout in part because what are you saying really. are you saying i still think there's a problem with a vaccine? you should get vaccinated on schedule. you can see the schedule, is 12 to 15 months, second dose four to six years. why in? you're not fully protected in between those two doses, a lot more protection after that first dose. the second thing is you are protecting other people around you by getting people vaccinated on schedule. >> herd immune tichlt dity. dr. sanjay gupta, thank you so much, we appreciate it. finally, the westminster dog show, you love it so much, almost as much as balkan peninsula -- "bohemian rhapsody." >> i like the song, it was a bad movie. >> the westminster dog show is a lot of entertainment. a wire fox terrier named king was the top dog at the
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westminster dog show, there he is. king defeated 2800 competitors, you'll be interested to know. from 203 breeds john. >> wire fox terriers are the winningest breed at the westminster dog show which sp k speaks to the problem with this. a lab or retriever has never won so call me when a dog wins the dog show. >> well, an australian shepherd named trump made headlines. which trump is best in show. >> reporter: two different trumps took center stage at almost the same time -- president trump you know, but trump the show dog? he was competing in westminster doing some things the president does -- like shaking hands. and some he doesn't, like having his mouth examined publicly. actually, trump the australian shepherd is named after the trump card in the game of bridge, not the president.
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who that very similar night was musing about whether he should get a dog. >> how would i look walking a dog on the white house lawn? [ cheers and applause ] feels phony to me. >> reporter: trump the show dog didn't win the herding dog competition. >> i understand losers. >> reporter: this is a president who barks out insults using the phrase "like a dog." bill maher got fired like a dog, sloppy steve bannon got dumped like a dog. kristen stewart cheated like a dog. >> the guy choked like a dog. >> reporter: trump himself has been depicted as a dog led around by putin. critics have called the president a canine. >> when you lie in bed with dfl >> reporter: but you can't say donald trump never had a dog. i'm happy to introduce chappy. actually, it was first wife ivana's poodle. in her book she writes donald was not a dog fan. she wouldn't move to new york without the dog. it's me and chappy or no one, i
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insisted. chappy had an equal dislike of donald. yet for at least five years trump posed with every westminster dog show winner and those present said he seemed to enjoy it. ivana writes despite their issues with each other, donald never objected to chappy sleeping on my side of the bed. that's more than you can say for president obama and bo. >> are you going to be in a bed? >> not in my bed. >> reporter: still with president trump there can only be one top dog. he won't let some pooch yank his chain. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> i saw some real dogs in there. >> they were but they don't win. >> oh. >> it's the issue. it's fox wire terriers and scottish terriers and lap dogs. >> my favorite didn't win, either, which was the ewok from "star wars." look at this. thatten s an ewok, isn't it? >> the ewok can topple the emperor but not win the dog show. >> and can't walk very well.
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very good wednesday morning, i'm jim sciutto in new york. >> and i'm poppy harlow live there houston, texas. good morning, everyone. he is in. sources telling cnn the president now intends to sign the border deal to avert another government shutdown. >> one day ago the president said he was not happy with this agreement which includes only a fraction of the billions of dollars he demanded so the question is how will the president get those funds? dana bash breaking all the news. the president intends to sign this deal. what's his thinking? >> this is according to two sources who have

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