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absolutely solid ground in an indelible fashion that were i removed quickly, reassigned or fired that the case could not be closed or would vanish in the night without a trace. i wanted to make sure our case was on solid ground and if someone came in, closed it, tried to walk away from it they would not be able to do it without making a record of why they made that decision. >> this comes as a federal judge ruled paul manafort's plea agreement with the special counsel is null and void because the former trump campaign chairman intentionally lied to investigators and a federal grand jury about his contacts with russia. >> joining us, david gregory, fo mia love and jeffrey toobin, cnn's chief legal analyst. jeffrey, this is the first time we have heard from andrew mccabe. this is really the first time we have heard from someone speak out loud about the moments after
james comey was fired and the concern inside the justice and intelligence apparatus about the president of the united states. what does that tell you? >> that there was a lot of concern. i mean, this was a constitutional crisis really. i mean, this was a moment when senior people in the law enforcement community thought the president was committing crimes in real time. think about that. they were watching the president obstruct justice in real time, they thought. they had to open an investigation. that's pretty profound. >> it's a big deal. >> yeah. >> it is a big deal. i'm curious, as you listen to everything we are just learning, the fact that he was so intent on opening this investigation in his words that it be on solid ground, that nothing could happen to it, just your reaction to that.
for you. >> i'm sorry. well, you know, one of the things that's really concerning is how many people he had around him and the concern that everybody had and the uncertainty everybody had. if we just even realize the judge came out and said that manafort lied to the fbi, completely got rid of the plea deal. if there is anything said in there, it's just that manafort is not a credible witness. i actually think that manafort does nothing for the mueller case now. so at that time there was uncertainty. now there is a little bit more uncertainty about who is telling the truth, who was lying, who could actually help with the investigation. i think there is just -- it just gets more and more confusing. >> it does. it gets to the question again of how many questions they had and how many new concerns were popping up in real time at jeffrey was talking.
one of the things that comes out, scott pely has a conversation with andrew mccabe. there were conversations about the 25th amendment -- replacing the president. ways to replace the president. i want to pay for you scott pelly recounting the conversation with mccabe about how serious the discussions were. listen. >> there were meetings at the justice department in which it was discussed whether the vice president and a majority of the cabinet could be brought together to remove the president of the united states under the 25th amendment. they were speculating this person would be with us, that person would not be. they were counting noses in that effort. >> that's extraordinary. >> and jim comey was fired because, as the president said, he didn't like how the investigation was going into russia. at the time it was such a big deal that the president would take that step and try to sell
the story that he was trying to do everybody a favor because of how comey conducted the clinton e-mail investigation. nobody believed that was his intent. here's the deputy after all that's transpired where the president leaned on comey, comey has testified, to go easy on michael flynn that there was a fear it would go away. there is another part of the story as well that cuts in the direction of the president's argument that what was going on in the fbi. there were a number of people with political animus including people like peter struzok who hd it out for me politically and they were talking about the 25th argument and who is against me and for me. this will feed the argument that people add the fbi had it in for the president and it is a bogus investigation. >> was it justified?
was the president's behavior so far outside the norm, so far unethical, perhaps illegal, that was the right thing to do to think about invoking the 25th amendment. that's the question. >> here's what we know. we have to make sure we keep things in context here. we know that there was involvement with the russia investigation. we know that. we know that there are people that were around the president who are not helping and who have lied. what we are still trying to figure out is if there was collusion between the president and russia. i think that's the key there. you've got all of this uncertainty. that's one thing. when the judge is saying manafort is lying, not a credible witness, he's intentionally lying to the fbi, lying with mueller, that's another issue. what we have to get down to is whether there was collusion between the president of the united states and russia. we know russia was involved in
the elections. we know that. the intelligence committee found evidence of it. we have to find whether there was collusion between the president of the united states and russia. >> let's remind viewers, too, the big part of the fbi investigation, an obstruction of justice investigation becomes fodder for a report that if it gets to congress, we'll see what the incoming attorney general -- >> that's the question. >> that's a big issue. bill barr will look seriously at whether the president sought to obstruct an gagts -- investigation by the fbi and to interfere what this investigation. that's very serious and could be part of the political debate we see after the mueller report and investigation is finished. >> already part of the debate even at this point leading into the final decision. there was so much coming out of this little bit of sound released by scott pelley and his
further conversation with his fellow journalists at cbs this morning. we heard rumors of rod rosenstein and a wire. it was joking, sarcastic. that's not what we are learning from scott pelley. we may have that sound as well. >> the deputy attorney general rod rosenstein offered to wear a wire into the white house to record potentially incriminating conversations with the president. a statement was released after that that it was never serious, it was sarcastic, et cetera. mccabe says, no, it came up more than once and was so serious he took it to the lawyers at the fbi to discuss it. >> it was so serious, jeff, he took it to lawyers at the fbi to discuss it. >> again, how surreal this all is that the fbi, andrew mccabe, career agent, was thinking that
the president was committing crimes in real time and they are discussing wearing a wire like he's a mafia don to try to get him to make incriminating statements in the oval office. even during water gate there was nothing like this. >> the president wants to trash the fbi, these agents and argue it was a bogus investigation. chris wray has quiet d this down by standing by these folks and the integrity of the investigation. >> not andy mccabe. he was pushed out and he's saying these things. i want to make that clear. it is interesting, david. jeffrey raised the issue. maybe it was unjustified. maybe they were wrong that this was necessary, but they thought it was necessary at the time, including rod rosenstein who is still the deputy attorney general. >> was rod rosenstein forced to write the memo that was the
basis for firing jim comey? if that was the case, why didn't he resign? there are questions about that. at the same time he's someone who pushed hard to maintain the integrity of the investigation. it was jeff sessions who put him in the position to oversee it. despite some of his comments and the white house had a chance when some of the revelations came out to push him out and declined to do so at the time. >> there was a lot of distrust around there either way. even on the campaign trail if you think about it, the fbi was a point of contention there. there was no trust there. anybody who is claiming or wanting to put a wire to see if they can get incriminating evidence, there is no joking around there. there is serious mistrust on both sides there from the start, the very beginning. >> the other fascinating thing we have been talking about before we got these revelations from andy mccabe is we learned
yesterday from judge jackson who said paul manafort intentionally lied and lied about interactions with konstantin kilimnik as campaign chairman and after. there are three things the judge ruled he lied about as you can see. it begs the question as we are looking at this and it's been brought up by a number of people. why so many people so close to the campaign, the president have lied about their interactions with russians. >> we are putting it on the screen. these are just the people who have been convicted or pleaded guilty of lying about the russians. >> yes. >> there is also roger stone who is under indictment. jared kushner, jeff sessions, both of whom had to reword statements about their dealings with russia. it is this pervasive dishonesty, all on this one subject of interactions with russians in
connection with the campaign. raises the obvious question. why were they all lying about it? was there something they were trying to cover up? >> mia, did the lies bother the members of congress when you were there? the pattern of lying is so pervasive now, is there an appetite to get to the answer of why? >> well, i can tell you that being a member of congress, a gop member of congress is very difficult under the administration. i think there are legitimate concerns about the people that the president had around him during the campaign and the people that are lying -- flat out lying now. i think there are legitimate concerns there. again, i think there are a lot of members of congress that are saying, look, we want to see evidence of collusion between the president himself and russia. i think that's what they are
waiting for. he's not -- he wasn't a politician. he didn't come with all of the right people. a lot of people he came with are people he dealt with in business dealings while he was taking care of his private issues. he brought some of those people over. so the cover-up is always worse than the issue. i wish these people would just stop lying and allow mueller to do his job. i think we would be a lot further along than we are now if it weren't for the dishonesty. >> and the lying raises such critical questions. there is the underlying issue, right, which is, as the prosecutor's argued in court, this goes to the core of what the investigation is about. was there a quid pro quo between russia and the trump campaign for some kind of outcome, particularly regarding the sanctions against ukraine? we have a critical figure here and a critical piece of the puzzle.
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taking shape. one person exploring the race now is the mayor of south bend, indiana. pete buttigieg now with an exploratory committee looking into the race joins us now. he's a veteran from afghanistan and the author of "shortest way home: one mayor's challenge and a model for america's future." you can look at the cover of the book here. i asked if they don't sell suit jackets in south bend. thanks for being with us. >> thank you. >> we asked democratic voters what they think is the most important trade now or extremely important for the democratic nominee. number one is a good chance to beat president trump. so why do you think you have the best chance in the democratic field to beat president trump? >> coming from a party that seemed to have lost touch in the last -- i'm talking about my party, the democratic party. seemed to have lost touch in the last election with the middle of the country. maybe it makes sense to have more voices from the industrial
midwe midwest. i say in the book how a community like south bend which is basically characteristic of the industrial midwest. we were an auto industry town, characterized as a dying city at the beginning of the decade. we found a different future, embraced change. we were honest about things that were not going back to the old way. i think we are living proof that the formula for reaching the hearts of the industrial midwest doesn't have to be nostalgia, resentment or promises that can't be kept to find greatness in some impossible -- again, by turning back the clock. >> is that the one thing you want voters to think of when they think of mayor buttigieg, you want them to think midwest -- like elizabeth warren, they think of income inequality, gillibrand, the me too movement. >> when you run for office at my age, your face is your message. a big part of the message is generational change. i belong to the school shooting generation. i was in high school when
columbine happened. we'll pay the bill for the unaffordable tax cuts for the wealthy. we are the generation that will be on the business end of climate change. i think voters not only from my generation but my parents' and grandparents' generations want to see the world left in better shape than it is now. that means a different kind of decision-making than a current president who seems to regard decisions on things from climate to international affairs and the consequences as basically somebody else's problem. >> is younger necessarily better? >> not necessarily, but it give use a different perspective because you have a real personal stake in what's about to happen. >> i want to ask you about the issues that are becoming a big part of the democratic race. one is the green new deal which you have said you support. the secretary of energy under president obama said he has concerns about one of the pledges in the green new deal which is to be carbon neutral within the next two years. he thinks it is impractical and
will alienate people. >> i don't think a goal should alienate people. in its current form it is a set of goals more than a fully articulated set of policies or a road map. our goals need to be more, not less ambitious. i'm coming at this as somebody who is, god willing, going to be here when i'm the current age of the current president which is 2054. a lot of these predictions will have come to pass. i have been in the position twice as mayor of having to use an emergency operations center in south bend for what should be historic flooding. one was 500-year and one was 1,000-year. they happened 18 months apart. climate is an emergency that's hitting us right now. we need to treat it as a national emergency that has the same power as the great depression or a world war. if the seriousness of this issue is commensurate with those world historical moments. but the big difference is this
time we see it coming. shame on us if we don't act ambitiously, aggressively, audaciously to do something about it. >> that can be your goal but you are saying it's unrealistic and you probably won't reach it? >> i'm not saying that? >> being net carbon neutral in ten years? >> i don't think officials will di vise the measures to get there any more than they were looking at rocket trajectories when they wanted to go to the moon. we need to set the goal. bern stein said two things are needed, a plan and not enough time. we did something similar in south bend. we didn't know how to deal with a thousand vacant houses in a thousand days. we needed to act at a level never seen before in our city so blight didn't overtake our neighborhoods and it became too late. it's the same with climate. i think on the greatest nation of earth if we are prepared to mount the adequate research and
development investments to bend the cost kercurve on things lik solar for example we can reach aggressive targets and what we really can't afford is to do otherwise. >> you served in afghanistan. i have read you are supportive of with drawing u.s. troops from afghanistan. how does your plan or vision for how that withdrawal would work differ from the president's. >> for one thing you don't surprise your own pentagon with a tweet. we need to be smart. the time has come to end endless war. you could be coming of age now almost old enough to be deployed and not have been alive on 9/11. congress has basically abandoned the war power authorities around the world. we need a way out. what you are now is a process of engaging the taliban in peace talks that seems to be leaving the legitimate afghanistan
government off to the side. i don't see how you get a lasting secure peace without truly involving and engaging the afghanistan government. >> i want to get your take on a lot of issues. voters are just learning about you. you wrote a high school term paper on bernie sanders. it helped you get a scholarship. >> yes. >> bernie sanders is a socialist. i want to read a quote. you think it shouldn't necessarily be a four-letter word. you say somebody says you can't do that, it's socialist. our answer will be, okay, is it a good idea or not? what are some examples of good socialist ideas? >> i think the word socialism has begun to lose meaning. that's a process that started when the right referred to the affordable care act as socialism even though it was a market-based policy that was invented at the conservative heritage foundation. this is a word that seems more a piece of political rhetoric than a rigorous definition of a set
of ideas. when we are talking about socialism are we talking about venezuela like nobody wants or in denmark where a child now enjoys more social mobility -- in other words, a greater likelihood of achieving the american dream -- than a child born in america. that should be unacceptable. we need to make sure whether an idea is labeled as right, left, capitalist, socialist or otherwise that we just evaluate whether the idea makes sense, whether it is good and whether there is evidence it will work. >> mike pence was governor of indiana when you were a mayor in indiana. you called him in fanatic. what do you mean? >> he believes things most of us consider far out. he's written cigarettes don't kill. he seems to believe people like me decide to be gay. his world view is out of step with the american mainstream. we saw it in indiana. he embarrassed our state with policies that both democrats and
republicans in not just the political world but the business community stepped up and said, hey, you are making us look like a backwards place at the moment we are trying to advance. unfortunately he now has a national stage for the fanatical social ideas. >> i didn't even ask about the fact that you are gay and you will be the first gay major party candidate. does it matter? >> that's not for me to say. i recognize there is a historic quality to the candidacy. what i learned in the process in south bend when i got re-elected with 80% of the vote is most people just care if you do a good job or not. that's true of mayors and i hope it's true for presidents. >> you are also maltese. >> first maltese-american. not a huge vote in america, sadly. we'll talk all the help we can get. >> pete buttigieg, appreciate you being with us.
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fired fbi deputy director andrew mccabe speaking for the first time about why he ordered an obstruction of justice investigation against trump. >> i was speaking to the man who had just run for the presidency and won the election for the presidency and who might have done so with the aid of the government of russia, our most formidable adversary on the world stage. that was something that troubled me greatly. i think the next day i met with the team investigating the russia cases and i asked the team to go back to determine where are we with these efforts and what steps do we need to take going forward? i was very concerned that i was able to put the russia case on absolutely solid ground in an
indelible fashion that, were i removed quickly, reassigned, fired that the case could not be closed or vanish in the night without a trace. >> joining me now, democratic house majority whip james clyburn. good to have you with us this morning. as you hear the words from andrew mccabe talking about his concerns that the russia case be on solid ground and that it not be closed or vanish in the night. what are your thoughts? >> a little bit chilling. we started noticing a couple of years ago or a couple of years before this incident there was something going on with our voting systems throughout the country. many of us saw some results, especially down in south carolina where we saw someone win at the democratic primary for the united states senate nobody ever heard of, nobody
knew. all of the sudden he won the democratic nomination. a lot of us back then said, something is amiss in this process. that was happening in little places all around the country. so after 2016, a lot of us said, wait a minute, there must have been some trials being run in some states before this. we were not surprised. hurt, disappointed, but not surprised something was amiss. i think we really need to get to the bottom of chase happwhat's happening with our elections and make sure people aren't predetermining who wins and that the process is transparent,
fair, and hopefully, i'll just say it, from hacking and other kinds of technology that could ruin an election. >> i want to get your take, too. you talk about process. one of the other things we learned from scott pelley who conducted that interview with andrew mccabe. he talks about how mccabe spoke with him about meetings at the justice department saying it was discussed whether the vice president and a majority of the cabinet could be brought together to remove the president of the united states under the 25th amendment. he goes on to say they were speculating about who would be with us, who wouldn't be. they didn't take a vote. they didn't ask people's opinions but said they were counting noses in scott pelley's words. that's what andrew mccabe told him. is that surprising? i'm curious about your reaction to that revelation. >> i'm not surprised at all. those of us who were around during the nixon investigations,
those of us who looked in on spiro agnew and what was going on with him, we aren't surprised at all. so i just think what we need to do is really marshal the resources we have in washington, coordinate with the states all around the country, and make sure that we have machines and other processes in place that will protect this all important vote that makes this country what it is today. >> there is a lot of focus on what is happening in the house in terms of oversight as you know including focus on who has been hired to help in some of these instances.
is there anything folks should read into that, especially given that recent hires include norm heisen who had specific comments about this president and about obstruction of justice. >> i don't think there is a reason to be concerned about that. the facts are what they are. i don't think anybody will be brought in within predetermined notions. people want to get to the bottom of what took place in 2016 and make sure that when we have our next election, it will not be repe repeated. so i know there are a lot of thoughts about who may or may not be hired to carry out these investigations. but, really, i'm not concerned that people will approach this with preconceived notions. they'll get to the bottom of it. we'll be better off as a result. >> couple of topics for you quickly. i want to get your thoughts.
when it comes to representative omar, have you spoken with her? >> i did. i have had a very long talk with her. i like her a lot. i think she was very sincere in her apology. i wish we would just go on and stop beating up on people when they make a mistake, all of us have misspoken at one time or another. all of us have to learn the processes up here. i think she's an incredible young lady who has a tremendous future in politics. i'm going to be as supportive as i can of her. i wish we would just go on and put this behind us. >> before we let you go, legislation which you cosponsored with pete king to expand federal background checks. >> yes. >> i wonder now after what happened in the house, what's your message to colleagues in the senate in terms of that legislation?
>> well, i'm hopeful that they will follow through. of course we still haven't finished in the house. last night it came out of committee. i'm grateful that the committee reported it out. i think we'll pass it on the floor of the house. i'm sure that senators graham and scott will gmarshal us through this senate. senator scott is from charleston. all of this throughout that horrible experience. i'm sure the rest of the senate will go along with this. this is simply a way of moving from three days to ten days and allowing people who are eligible and qualified to own a gun. they can still own a gun. this is to make sure that we have enough time to check into the backgrounds of those who may not be eligible to have a gun.
17 students and teachers were murdered a year ago today when a gunman opened fire inside the stoneman douglas high school in parkland, florida. survivors immediately began a crusade to end gun violence. diane gallagher has more. >> reporter: of course this is never going to be a normal day for people in the parkland community. they have a half day of service today. there are some students here. they fed first responders this morning. there are other service products scheduled. but there is going to be a lot of something we haven't seen over the past 365 days and that's silence. there are three moments of silence and the kids from march for our lives who spent the year
making sure it would never again are going dark for three days to reflect. >> this is our generation's vietnam war except the war is in our country. >> reporter: in the one year since a former student shot and killed 17 of their friends, teachers and coaches, the students from stoneman douglas high school have become the faces of america's war on gun violence. >> fight for your lives before it is someone else's job. >> reporter: becoming a political and cultural force. >> we traded in talk for action. >> we were the only people that could have made this movement possible. >> reporter: marching on washington, lobbying law makers, racking up awards, magazine covers, gaining influence among celebrities and politicians, using old and new methods. >> we definitely wouldn't have had an international movement had it not been for social media. >> reporter: and using it this summer on their cross-nation tour of gun violence prevention rallies where the goal was to
register and inspire people to vote. turnout in the 2018 elections surged. >> we had the highest youth voter turnout in 25 years. >> reporter: they pressured candidates to campaign on stricter gun laws. >> people got elected because they said i'm going to make it my priority to prevent gun violence. >> reporter: though gun control measures are now being discussed in the u.s. house, when it comes to federal legislation, it is unlikely much of what these young activists want to see happen will get past the current republican-controlled senate. >> we are actively creating a grassroots army of young people focused not only on congress but on the state legislature, city councils and school boards. >> reporter: since the parkland massacre, 26 state legislatures plus washington, d.c. passed 69 different gun control measures, more than any year since the 2012 sandy hook shooting. that's according to giffords law center, a group that favors stronger gun laws. most states adopted individual
changes though three, including florida, did pass major overhaul legislation. >> i think we moved the needle. not enough. but we did. >> reporter: the march for our lives kids aren't the only parkland act vis making an impact. andrew pollock's daughter meadow was murdered. since that day he worked closely with politicians including in the white house. he was recently appointed to the florida state school board. he says his mission is not about guns. instead, it's the broader issue of school safety. >> all the states are going to look at what we are doing in florida and they are going to replicate it. >> reporter: their methods may be different. they all agree real change may be slow, but it is definitely happening. >> you've just got to keep pushing and advocating. one way we are going to achieve what we set out to do. >> the job of the activist is to put themselves out of a job.
>> reporter: that's a refrain we have heard from the parents of victims that they want to just make sure it doesn't happen to anyone else. now, i know the children from march for our lives as well as many in the community here were happy to see their representative when he called for the moment of silence, erica, yesterday in the house, just before the judiciary did that vote to send the universal background checks legislation to the floor. it was a momentus occasion for them. people in parkland, the wounds were open and very raw. >> understandable. >> thank you. we'll be right back.
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infected every year, 48,000 hospitalized. 4,000 people have encephalitis. 400, to 500 people died. this was essentially eliminated in 2000. the worst year was 2014 with 667 cases. the last death was in 2015. this is a significant public health triumph. what darla shine said about having natural immunity although she was born after the vaccine was introduced so i'm not sure if she had the shot. if she had the measles she has life long immunity, that's true. if you get the vaccine you are protected for life as well. which would you rather have -- the risk of death, encephalitis, hospitalization, millions of cases or the two shots? >> if it t is not just a risk t, correct? >> right. you say, look, i'm making an individual choice for me, my family, we are not going to do
it. there are babies -- you don't get the shot until you are 12 months old. babies aren't protected because they don't have the vaccine. if you don't build a wall or what's called herd immunity around them you are putting other people at risk. babies, people who can't get the shot, people with weakened immune systems. you do it not just because you love your kids but because you love other people's kids as well. >> i don't want to give it too much credence, but what about her claim that measles cures cancer? >> the story she referenced is a story with did at cnn about a particular trial where they took a genetically engineered measles virus -- so not the wild type of the virus we are talking about here. they genetically engineered it to go fight a particular type of cancer. the virus can transport through the body well. it went to this particular tumor and made some damage into the
tumor. that's different from the measles that's circulating. that was a genetically engineered vehicle to try and kill a tumor. >> more like my understanding is the measles vaccine than the actual disease. >> more like a medicine, yes. >> now, brian, you are here, our chief media correspondent to help us understand who is darla shine? . >> the wife of bill shine who was the copresident of fox news. now he's the head of communications for the trump white house. he was hired last year, brought in to be the deputy chief of staff for communication. i'm not here to judge a marriage, but we can see through twitter what the wife of the white house staffer is saying. this shows how the internet can radicalize people and introduce them to extreme, dangerous views. we talk about the context of terrorism and violence. it can happen in the context of
public health. we know folks go down habit holes on youtube and social media and end up believing some of the crazy stuff. that's the broader concern. there are a lot of things she said on twitter, on the radio show that are also disturbing, racially charged comments about black boys, comments about islamic insanity. she suggested women who join the military should expect sexual harassment. she suggested the flu pandemic was made up to help drug companies. there's been a conspiracy and racially charged commentary on her twitter account. it didn't matter much until her husband became a trump aide. >> sanjay, what's the danger -- and you are here as a doctor, our chief medical correspondent. what's the danger to someone who has a platform like this spreading this misinformation about measles? >> this is a preventable disease. there are so many diseases out there we are trying to grapple with. this one we put in the win column, eliminated in 2000. anybody who gets the measles
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good morning, everyone. i'm poppy harlow. >> i'm jim sciutto. new revelations about the first days of the russia investigation. the former fbi director breaking his silence about why he launched the probe into the trump campaign's ties with russia. andrew mccabe said he feared the investigation might be blocked before it started and that he could be fired next. speaking to cbs, mccabe revealed new details about the meeting with president trump just hours after he fired fbi director james comey. >> i was speaking to the man who had just run for the presidency. and won the election for the presidency and who might have done sth