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thanks for joining us on "inside politi politics." have a great weekend. we'll be live from iowa on sunday with senator kamala harris. hope to see you then. brianna keilar starts right now. have a great day. i'm brianna keilar live from cnn's washington headquarters underway right now. another day, another stunning charge. patriots' owner robert kraft accused of soliciting sex in a prosecution sting. plus a capitol on edge, a president under siege and a week that's shaping up to be the most consequential for the trump presidency. any moment robert mueller may drop the secrets he's been holding. paul manafort filing may tell all. what's next for jussie smollett? despite the charges against him, he remains defiant as his tv show makes a big move.
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we begin with breaking news in florida. police say there is an arrest out for robert kraft, the owner of the new england patriots. authorities say he has been charged with two counts of soliciting sex at a day spa in jupiter. the bombshell was dropped in a police press conference last hour. >> yes, sir, he is one of the individuals. that would be mr. robert kraft. >> robert kraft, the owner of the new england patriots? >> yes, sir. >> what is he being charged with? >> he is being charged with the same offenses as the others, and that is soliciting another to commit prostitution. >> a spokesperson for the patriots' owner issued this statement. we categorically deny that mr. kraft engaged in any illegal activity. because it is a judicial matter, we will not be commenting further. we have reporter anthony costira from our affiliate wbtf. he was at that news conference. we have boston globe cnn writer
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ben bowlen and former prosecutor laura coates with us. anthony, this was part of a police sting, so there was a number of people netted in this. tell us more about it. >> reporter: really, this stems from a months-long investigation here in south florida that stemmed back, actually, over the summer. in total there are about five spas that are related, a handful of suspects, females who are accused of leading this prostitution human trafficking type of sting, and then hundreds of what police are calling johns, men who participated in these sexual acts, essentially paying for sex with now just the latest development a few moments ago, citing that robert kraft of the patriots is actually part of that. we understand he was involved not just once, but twice, soliciting sex at a local spa here in jupiter, florida. it is a misdemeanor here in florida. so the way this generally works is that if -- the police department, rather, would send a
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mail notice, and those folks who were accused would appear in court. because robert kraft does not live here in florida, he lives in massachusetts, as you know, he would have an arrest warrant. that is what the police department is working on right now. we're trying to get our hands on the arrest affidavit to see exactly what that entails, but at this point we know he visited two times. police have not been crystal clear in terms of the time frame. we know they started surveillance at that specific spa back in january. in a one-week period, we understand there was about a hundred men who visited in that time frame, and so it's safe to say that it probably would be sometime in that time frame since they started the surveillance. the way this investigation really started back in december was a tip from the health department to customers at these illicit spas in south florida saying these workers would be soliciting sex. so the health department went in, they installed video cameras, they pulled a trash
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pool here. from that trash pool they had shredded pieces of paper. they pieced it together and found names, dates and sexual services provided as well as how they were paid. we're trying to find out if robert kraft was listed on those pieces of paper that investigators pieced together or if it's the surveillance video. we know from that press conference a short time ago that robert kraft was listed two times going, but we're still trying to figure out if they're linking him through that paper trail as well. >> yeah, what kind of evidence do they have. laura, as anthony says, this is a misdemeanor, but with this arrest warrant in progress, because robert kraft lives in massachusetts, and this is happening in florida, how does that play out, would you expect? >> well, you would expect him to have jurisdiction to be able to extend to massachusetts. you usually have this idea where other jurisdictions will honor and help facilitate you being brought back to the state in the united states of america. it will either play out where
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his attorney will either ask him to waive his appearance through the courts. will he be able to turn himself in at some appropriate time? will he be arraigned on any charges? misdemeanors, you may remember, are things that allow you to serve six months to a year, even less than six months. we're not talking about a lengthy period of time which is why it's categorized as that. but the most interesting aspect of this is the spa and this investigation as it's laid out, was also part of a human trafficking discussion. robert kraft by all accounts has not been charged with anything related to that, but this specific spa is being investigated, as well as nine or so others, with women being held in sexual servitude and perhaps not being able to leave. if that is the case, this case could expand beyond the initial evidentiary paper trail with those johns, as they are called, if they were involved in a greater operation involving trafficking. how this will play out for robert kraft, if it's an arrest for a misdemeanor charge is
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probably the best case scenario or just being dismissed outright. but if it leads to a larger investigation, brianna, a misdemeanor would be a dream for a human trafficking ring. >> ben, this goes beyond the legal realm, because people either love or they hate kraft. he is an icon for sure in boston, though. what's the reaction there? >> certainly everyone here is completely shocked by these allegations and charges. robert kraft, you know, a 70-something-year-old billionaire. certainly he enjoys the good life. he's been hanging out with the rapper meek mill recently at the nba all-star game. robert kraft does have a younger girlfriend he's been with for several years, but to go into the realm of prostitution, i don't think anyone saw this coming. he's absolutely revered in new england for the way he saved the franchise over two decades ago and has turned them into arguably the greatest dynasty in
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all of sports. and this is certainly a shocking turn of events for someone who is held in such high regard. publicly here he does so many things in the community, and obviously when his wife unfortunately passed away back in 2011, that was a big thing as well. they dedicated the season to her, they wore patches on their uniforms. obviously this is not the robert kraft that a lot of people here know in new england. >> how, ben, is it going to reflect on the reputation of the team? >> i don't know if the two really go hand in hand. i think people either generally love the patriots or they hate them, and i don't think this incident is going to change people's minds too much. you know, the thing that's interesting is robert kraft is going to be looking at punishment from the nfl, too, not just legal problems. those are his bigger concerns, of course. but the nfl is going to have to take some action on him as well. they have a personal conduct policy that applies to players,
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coaches, g mrms, even owners, a it states explicitly that owners are held in higher regard and the punishment can be harsher for them than a normal player. he's probably looking at least at a suspension of six games and a fine of $500,000. those are the punishments jim mercer got when he pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor plea in 2018, so kraft will be paying for it as well with legal issues. >> laura coates, really appreciate it, thank you to all of you. with a key memo expected today on trump campaign chief paul manafort, there is word now that state prosecutors are preparing to possibly charge manafort as well. the "new york times" is reporting that charges would be triggered even if the president steps in and pardons manafort.
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the president has publicly refused so far to rule out a pardon. >> it's very sad what's happened to paul, the way he's being treated. i've never seen anybody treated so poorly. but the question was asked of me by the new york post, and i said, no, i have not offered any pardons. i think they asked, or whatever, would you? i said, i'm not taking anything off the table. >> former counsel to u.s. assistant attorney general is with us and analyst dana bash. why is this so significant, carrie? >> if there are state charges, then those are potentially pardon-proof. the president's pardon authority extends to federal crimes, not to state crimes. so if they were to indict him in state proceedings, then that could potentially go to trial, and he could be convicted of those crimes, and whether or not
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the president pardons him would be irrelevant. >> the president hasn't ruled out this -- a pardon of paul manafort. i'm assuming a decent lawyer in his corner would want him to do that, but why hasn't he? >> i think for a couple reasons. one thing about the president, he tends to be pretty transparent when he says things. what he said publicly is what i've heard from sources around him that he's been saying privately for some time, which is maybe paul manafort didn't make the right choices. but these charges almost certainly would not be brought against him had he, manafort, been involved in the trump orbit. it's not as though the feds weren't looking at him before. they were, but they were certainly aggressive about it more recently because it was caught nup tup in the mueller p. it's moved beyond that now. having said that, it's my understanding the president was surprised to hear that manafort
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met with the ukranian with very close ties to the russian kremlin and gave him some polling data. he didn't know about that. now, whether or not that changes his m.o. on a potential pardon, unclear if it goes that far, but, you know, he tends to be loyal to people who are loyal to him, and so far there is no sign that paul manafort has been anything but. >> he's called him a brave man, right? so if the president, carrie, were to pardon paul manafort, that would deal with the federal crimes he is alleged to have committed, but this is on the state level but it's for the same thing. wouldn't his attorneys argue double jeopardy? >> he pleaded guilty. he had a plea agreement and then the question is whether or not he violated that agreement. so his sentencing, what he's actually sentenced to, will depend on how the judge weighs whether he violated that
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agreement. >> and it could be potentially huge. >> my understanding of state law is there is a double jeopardy issue. but why he's prosecuted is an important one. prosecutions are not supposed to be brought just because somebody is, quote, unquote, a big fish. if there is who is prominent. that's not really a reason to bring a case. what i am curious about is why, whoever is providing this information to reporters, that a potential grand jury might indict paul manafort in the future in new york state, why is that information becoming public? grand jury proceedings should be kept secret. if new york state has a case against paul manafort, they should just bring their case. it shouldn't actually depend on whether or not they think the president is dangling a pardon. it should be either they have a case or they don't. if they have a case, bring it. the charges could be similar to state or federal charges or there might be other specific things related to crimes in new
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york state law that they would have unique things to charge him with. >> let's look ahead, dana, to next week. very consequential for the president. you've got the delivery, it is possible, of the final mueller report. president trump's former personal attorney michael cohen testifying on capitol hill before one, not two, three committees. tuesday the house is going to vote on the resolution against the president's national emergency declaration, and the president also has this little summit in vietnam with kim jong-un. what are you looking for? >> i mean, all of it. we're going to be looking for sleep. that's what we'll be looking for. we're kind of used to, all of us in the news world and people just in the world who consume this news, are used to working at warped speed and trying to consume water from a fire hose. this is going to be like nothing we've seen before. i think for president trump, what better place for him to be than on the world stage?
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no matter how controversial it is, no matter how potentially consequential or not that is, what better place for him to be than that with everything that's going to be happening here on the home front. >> very interesting point. dana bash, carrie cordero, thank you both. breaking today, jussie smollett says he's innocent of setting up a fake attack. his television show is pulling the plug on his character for the final two episodes. plus, from stone to cohen, from manafort to flynn. all the president's men humbled by the law. tractor. because changing your attachments, whether it's for this job, this job or even this job, should be as easy as... what about this? changing your plans. nothing runs like a deere. yeah. run with us. search "john deere 1 series" for more. get your 1 series for just $99 a month
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jussie smollett is being pulled from his show "empire," fox making that announcement a short time ago saying that the
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character would not appear in the last two episodes of the season. smollett was back on the set just hours after bonding out of jail. he gathered the cast and crew of the show and he apologized to them for any embarrassment that the allegations against him have caused. but that was it. that's where he left it. he doubled down on his innocence, denying that he staged the assault against himself and blasting the media and legal system for this growing scandal. we have sirius xm host and s.e.cupp with us. first of all, s.e., they originally condemned this alleged attack police say smollett faked, really. what is the damage for them, do you think? >> in not reversing their earlier statements? >> even having said it, having not at this point sort of corrected the record and taken some sort of stand. >> it's odd.
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there is still a sort of wait and see approach, which would be fine if you had waited and seen from the beginning. but, you know, we got duped. a lot of people did not believe this from the beginning, but for those that did, you got duped. and there's really no risk, i think, in coming out and saying we were had, we were taken, we were played, and what jussie smollett is alleged to have done is awful and sets us back, and it's a betrayal, and it's x, y and z and then sort of move on. but the longer this lingers, especially for 2020 contenders, i think the worse this looks. >> i want to ask you about a recent column in the "washington post," but can you relate to what s.e. said and say how politicians have come out on this issue and what they should
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do now? >> i like the way kamala harris handled it, i like the way cory booker handled it. don't forget, president trump himself came out and said this is the worst thing ever, whatever the quote was. i think it's the right thing to do. folks came out and had compassion for him. now the facts may have changed, but he is still presumed innocent. i feel the way that koorcory bo and kamala harris said, we're going to wait until the facts came out. >> you heard chicago police saying one of their worst fears is when you have hate crimes reported by the lgbt community, by the black community, it may not be taken seriously. you wrote the column where you said, hey, members of the black lgbt community, if they're not going to report crimes that happened, it's not going to have anything to do with jussie smollett. explain that. >> i'm really frustrated by this
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notion and it's really offensive that because of jussie smollett, the one black gay guy who may have lied, that victims of hate crimes are not going to be believed. we already aren't believed. black lgbt of hate crimes aren't taken seriously. i'll lay out example after example. if someone doesn't believe a hate crime victim, they didn't believe it before jussie. why doesn't it work the other way around? why is it when white people falsely accuse black people -- and there is a documented history of that -- why isn't this credibility shot? why isn't the credibility of white women, for instance, karen bryant, susan smith, more recently kristin rimes. their reputation wasn't shot. but somehow it will ruin the lives of lgbt folks who are convicted of a crime. as an lgbt black person, i can
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tell you it isn't true. >> as women and victims of sexual harrassment, sex crimes, all kinds of crimes, we are also not believed. susan smith notwithstanding, i don't think her credibility is in good standing today. but we are also not believed routinely. and what i have said through me, too, and what i said with this, every allegation of a crime has set us all back and it makes it that much harder. i think you're right, if you're not inclined to believe minority victims, then nothing some actor does is going to change that opinion. but it is a betrayal to future victims and current victims to fake an attack and use racial animus and bigotry to fake an attack and stir up all of those tensions. it's hard enough for victims to survive attacks, report attacks, muster the courage to voice
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those allegations, those accusations. it's hard enough and this is denial. >> we're in black history month, right? there was a long documented history of white people accusing black people. as far as women within white people, that's different. there is a long history of this. all i'm saying is if it's going to damage the credibility, you would think it would be across the board, and i can tell you as a black lgbt person, the credibility is already damaged. it's hard to prove a hate crime in general, so that comment from the chicago pd was just disturbing to me because that's just not true. >> i tell you, i appreciate the conversation from both of you because i think there are broader lessons to be learned from all of this. and it's such a complex issue. so clay, thank you for being on, s.e., thank you for joining us. we really appreciate it. remember to watch on saturday night at 6:00 eastern for "s.e. cupp unfiltered."
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president trump backing his plans for moving out of syria. 200 troops will stay. i'll ask if that's enough. plus, breaking news out of florida. the owner of the new england patriots charged with soliciting sex. a warrant now out for his arrest.
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the white house is changing the plan for the total withdrawal of u.s. troops from syria. they now say they'll leave around 200 troops behind for what they're calling peace-keeping force. this wi right now there are more than 2,000 american troops in syria. we have senator ben cardin with us from the relations committee. from your perch on the committee, do you consider this a smart move by the president when you would compare it to zero u.s. troops in syria? >> brianna, i'm having a hard time understanding the president's policies in syria. first he says we defeated isis. now he's giving the impression that's not the case, and we know, of course, that isis is a tricky situation.
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if we leave any void at all, they can reappear. he said 2,000 troops is too many, but didn't talk in regards to what we do on presence. we don't know what these 200 troops will do coupled with a couple hundred of our own allies. the policy seems to be confusing, and it is certainly bringing about some uncertainty in regards to our traditional partners. >> so you don't know what they're going to do. you don't know what the 200 troops are going to do. are you expecting to learn this? are you expecting to be briefed by the administration? >> i certainly hope so, and our senate relations committee needs to be briefed on this, we need to be in a classified setting, we also need public hearings. at this point it's difficult to give a judgment because we don't know what the administration's game plan is. we do know that we do want this issue to be resolved. we know that we can't win a military victory alone. we have to deal with the civil war in syria, and we do need to
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be mindful that isis is not just in syria, it's in many countries in that region, and we do need to work with our coalition partners to rid the region of isis. >> next week is going to be a huge week, including because the president is heading to vietnam for his summit with kim jong-un, and this is a summit that is going to start, actually, with a one-on-one meeting between the leaders. it will just be the leaders and then their translators. when you hear that, what's your reaction? >> well, this is the second summit between kim jong-un and president trump. we had thought after the first that we would have steps taken to denuclearize the korean peninsula. that starts with a declaration as to north korea's current nuclear program. that hasn't taken place yet, nor has there been any understanding of when that will take place. so, again, it's difficult to understand what are the achievables for a second summit between the leaders when the first summit only produced
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aspirational issues, did not produce concrete results. >> do you worry about there just being translators? the president has come under fire when it's been him and vladimir putin and all they've had are their translators and there haven't been other experts in his administration at the table, which is customary. does it worry you what might happen, what might be agreed to if it's just president trump and kim jong-un, or not really? >> no, absolutely that bothers me. you need to understand that what takes place in that meeting can have major consequences. it's important that it's documented, it's important that the major players that advise the president are aware of what takes place in that room. they don't want to get a third party account. they should be present, there should be documentation. that information is critically important. it should be made available to congress, if necessary, in a classified setting. but to do this as he did with president putin is a major
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mistake. it was hailed by moscow with dominant president putin. if they do this, it's a big win for north korea. >> i want to ask about your colleague bernie sanders. he's an independent but he caucuses with democrats in the senate. he's running for president, and he's come under fire by some people in your party because of what he said about venezuela, which is socialist, a different brand of socialism than the democratic socialism he add voluntary cat daigs add -- advocates for. here's what he said about maduro. >> i think what has to happen right now, i think there are serious questions about the recent election. there are many people who feel it was a fraudulent election, and i think the united states has got to work with the international community to make sure that there is a free and fair election in venezuela.
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>> should he go? >> i think clearly he has been very, very abusive. that is a decision of the v venezuelan people. >> what did you think about his answer? should he have said that maduro has to go? >> i disagree with senator sanders in regards to the legitimacy of president maduro. i don't agree he is a legitimate leader. i do agree with senator sanders that we need free and fair elections in venezuela in order to determine its future leader. that has to be done. we met with the current government when they were in washington. we got a firm commitment that they're going to move to free and fair elections. they understand this is just an interim president and that we need to move toward free and fair elections. but clearly maduro has lost legitimacy. he was not freely elected and his legitimacy as leader is no
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longer there. so i support the president in recognizing the new acting president. >> what does that mean if someone says it's up to the venezuelan people when the elections are not free and fair? is that missing that entire point? >> well, venezuela needs to reinstitute its democratic procedures for free and fair election and choose its leader. whoever they choose is by the people of venezuela. but it's got to be a free and fair election. it will never happen under maduro. it won't happen. so you need to reestablish the democratic principles of that country, and this interim government is committed to doing that. we will oversee this. they have committed to using the organization of american states as an independent umpire to make sure it's done in a proper way. there will be international observers. all of that needs to be done to guarantee there are free and fair elections. then when the people decide
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after the free and fair election, that decision is up to the people of venezuela. >> ben cardin, thank you very much for being on. have a great weekend. >> thank you. we expect to see the final sentencing memo of paul manafort today, at least the one that comes from the special counsel. the "new york times" is reporting that new york state is also forming charges against the chair, even if the president decides to pardon him. plus, breaking news out of florida, the owner of the new england patriots arrested in soliciting prostitution and there is a warrant out for his arrest. at office depot officemax. have you ever worked with dr. francis? oh yeah, he's ok. just ok? guess who just got reinstated! well, not officially. nervous?
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this breaking just now, sources telling cnn that singer r. kelly has just been indicted in cook county, illinois. let's bring in correspondent sara sidener in chicago. this just happened, so catch us up with what we know at this point. >> reporter: it did. what we learned from two sources in the ongoings of the case is there has been an indictment filed against ron kelly, also known worldwide as the singer r. kelly. what we have learned over time, we first reported over the grand jury that has convened. that grand jury convened last week, it also convened this week, and that some of this has to do with the women that have
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come forward accusing him of some kind of sexual abuse. we also know that last week attorney michael avenatti was able to hand over a tape to the state attorney's office here in chicago, and indeed, the cook county state attorneys's office has indicted r. kelly. we are trying to get ahold of the indictment to find out exactly what he has been indicted with, but this is a huge development. as you know, r. kelly, back in 2008, went to trial. he went to trial on 14 counts of child pornography. he was acquitted in that trial. and in that trial, there was also physical evidence, including a tape, a videotape that prosecutors at the time was a girl who was 13 years or 14 years old, and r. kelly involved in sexual acts that had been recorded by r. kelly, but he was
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acquitted on those charges because the jury said they simply could not positively, beyond a reasonable doubt, end up being able to identify r. kelly or the girl, even though they brought a lot of witnesses to say otherwise. there were witnesses in that particular case that said opposite things, so the jury just could not -- was not able to go forward with a conviction. r. kelly has always maintained that he is innocent of all the charges and accusations that have been coming at him for the past 20 years. now here we are in 2019, 11 years after that case went to trial and he was acquitted, we are seeing now more charges against singer r. kelly. >> what does cnn know about that tape you mentioned that michael avenatti turned over to the state attorney's office. this is material that cnn has been able to verify the content of, right? >> that is correct. i watched the tape. it was extremely disturbing. on that particular tape there was a picture that was barely
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clear. it was much clearer, according to two sources who have seen both tapes, the one that was given to a jury in 2008 and the one that this grand jury apparently saw, according to our sources. so that tape, it was a very, very clear room, and i want to warn people about what i am about to say, because it is disturbing information to have to listen to, and i won't go into too many details. but what we saw was a girl on the tape and a man who appeared to be r. kelly completely nude, constantly changing the camera, making sure that you could see the entire scene, the entire sex acts that were happening. there were multiple sex acts on that tape. there was urination going on that was videotaped, and we heard the girl say, over and over again, at least six times, she referred to her 14-year-old genitalia. and he in turn a couple of times also mentioned her 14-year-old genitalia. and so we know that that has
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been in the hands of prosecutors for quite some time now. we understand that that tape was used also with the grand jury. but there have been other witnesses, and we are told by at least two sources that there have been other witnesses who have been coming in and out of the grand jury for several days. this grand jury has been brought together, and they've been listening to details that has to do with r. kelly and the alleged sexual abuse or sexual acts, potentially, with minors and other women. we will have to get the details for you when it comes to what this indictment actually says, but this is big news. and as you might imagine, there has been this whole series that came out in january called "surviving r. kelly" on lifetime. that series certainly had to do with some of the people coming forward at this time. you heard from many, many women on that particular series who talked about their relationships and accused r. kelly of having relationships with them when they were minors. and i have spoken to one of the
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women that was involved in that series, and she says she feels relieved, but she really wants to see the details of what this is. but again, we should mention that there has been an indictment, according to two sources with knowledge of this case, that r. kelly has been indicted. we are trying to get the charges he has been indicted on, brianna. >> sara sidner, stand by for us. thank you for bringing us all that information on the story that has just broken. r. kelly indicted. i want to bring in reba martin, analyst, and michael kane. we are working to obtain this indictment and see what the charges are. what do you think about what we know so far? >> this is blockbusting kind of news, brianna. women for the last two decades have been talking either privately, publicly and definitely on the documentary that sara mentioned about being abused by r. kelly as teenagers.
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there was just a press conference held with gloria allred and two victims who said that r. kelly had sex with them when they were minors. so there are a lot of women in the #metoo movement, in the mute r. kelly movement who will feel a sense of relief hearing about this indictment, they will feel that justice has been served. it's been a big issue in terms of some of the women being taken seriously, some of their claims being taken seriously. some of the women in the movement believe that since these are african-american women, they were not being believed like some women who are not african-american women are believed when they talk about sexual assault. this is a huge story. as you mentioned, brianna, we don't have all the details of the indictment, but i can't emphasize enough how many women, i'm sure, are feeling a sense of relief and feeling this day has taken way too long to come, and
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they're going to anxiously await to see what this indictment may mean for prosecution as well as hopefully some kind of conviction for what we know have been charges against r. kelly that have been mounting for two decades. >> kelly, i know you have been following r. kelly and the information coming to light. what's your reaction? >> this is a long time coming. i can recall years ago i wrote a timeline of r. kelly's allegations. he's been doing this reportedly in plain sight. it goes back to what victims aren't being believed, what victims are not being taken seriously. african-american women are those who are not being believed. i hope the time is up for this r&b singer, and i want to shout out the executive producer who
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did "surviving r. kelly," so many black women who have been at the forefront making sure justice has been served >> listening about what sarah said, the awful details aside, she said he appears to be identifiable in this tape as compared to the other tape that a jury saw before when it acquitted him on charges. they said they couldn't be sure that was him even though you heard sarah, you're familiar with this, a lot of people testified that it was him. and yet a jury still forgave him essentially and didn't believe that this was true, didn't believe that it could be legitimized to the point where they would have found him guilty. is there a statute of limitations here, though, i wonder? sarah was saying this was a vhs tape. >> yeah. there are statutes of limitations that make it sometimes very difficult for
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prosecutors to bring these cases forward. i think one thing to note about the 2008 case is the victim that was in that videotape, she did not testify in that trial. and jurors who talked about deliberating on that case, they were -- that was a big issue for them. that was a sticking point, the fact that the victim herself did not come forward and testify. and they did talk about not being able to make a positive identification of r. kelly. based on the new videotape, that's not an issue. the issue of identification of r. kelly appears to be not the issue in this new tape. we don't know about this victim. we haven't heard a lot about this victim, is this victim one of the people that testified before the grand jury that has indicted r. kelly? is this victim someone who's willing to come forward and testify at a trial? i agree that the r. kelly documentary gave voice to so many women and gave women who had been victimized by r. kelly
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i think the courage to come forward and tell their stories, and apparently the cook county district attorney was able to talk to the women, talk to other victims and have them tell their stories. that's powerful for what's happening today. >> areva, clay, sarah, if you could stand by, we have much more ahead. we're about to hear the specific charges. we know there's been an indictment. we'll hear more on the specific charges of the indictment, plus breaking news out of florida. the owner of the new england patriots charged with soliciting sex, and a warrant is out for his arrest. one-millionth order. millionth order. ♪ there goes our first big order. ♪ 44, 45, 46... how many of these did they order? ooh, that's hot. ♪ you know, we could sell these. nah. ♪ we don't bake. ♪ opportunity. what we deliver by delivering.
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house speaker nancy pelosi has set next tuesday for a vote on the president's national emergency declaration. it's a resolution that is calling for the cancelation of the president's declaration. police made the announcement in texas where she's meeting with border state officials and will get a tour of a key border crossing point in laredo. the speaker and texas governor abbott will attend a special celebration on saturday in laredo that highlights relations between mexico and the united states. the house resolution to stop
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the president's national emergency declaration was authored by texas democratic congressman joaquin castro. he's joining us from san antonio. sir, thanks for being with us. >> thank you for having me. >> how many at this point -- i know the number is growing -- how many co-sponsors do you have, and do you have republicans? >> yeah, we have the last i saw about 227, 228. we have one republican so far, justin amosh of michigan. my staff is reaching out to republican offices for days now. i'm going to be making calls between now and the vote. if you look at how we approach this, we tried to approach it in a very bipartisan way by emphasizing the fact that the president is really making a constitutional power grab and trying to take away the power of congress, the power of the purse of congress, and usurping that for himself. >> so you -- you have enough co-sponsors to get this passed, right? at this point in time? >> yeah. yeah. >> there's a partner resolution
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that would then -- this would prompt a vote in the senate. the white house is trying to maintain the republican support. i mean, you said there's one republican. so far they're doing pretty well. and the likelihood is you're not going to get this veto proof two-thirds that you need in both chambers. would you still consider this a success? >> yeah, you're right. i mean, i worked on this for about six weeks with the legislative council in congress. and it's a privilege resolution, so we can pass it in the house. it will then go to the senate. has to have a vote in the senate. we think that we can get the votes that we need in the senate. you're right, it's an uphill battle to pass it after that if the president vetoes it. we're not going to give up. we're going to continue working to try to get the number we need if he, in fact, vetoes it. >> then what? even if you continue to work, if you don't hit the mark, then what? >> you're right. then at that point, then at least legislatively we will not have been able to terminate the resolution. however, as you saw, there are lawsuits that have been filed, one by javier becerra, the attorney general of california. i think 16 states have joined on
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to that lawsuit. so i have said all along that this is one way that we're going to try to stop the president from his constitutional power grab. we're going to fight him in congress, we're going to fight him in the courts. and i believe that the american people will fight him. >> he has this option to take about $3 billion from the defense department's drug interdiction program to take $600 million from the treasu department's -- treasury department's asset forfeiture fund. this can be stopped by congress, can be stopped -- can't be stopped by congress, can't be stopped by the resolution. he can get money from other places. >> i believe that we're going to figure a way to fight that also. if he tries to do an end around and get the money some other way, you'll see lawsuits on that, as well. >> and you visited one of these senio centers that is housing minors. can you tell us what you saw? >> the one in florida, in homestead? >> yes. tell us about that.
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>> a few days ago? yeah. yeah. i mean, the whole thing is part of what i consider a morally bankrupt system of how we treat migrants in this country. and these are people that are seeking asylum. that are seeking refuge from violent homelands. you know, by now i've been to processing centers that cvp runs, i've been to i.c.e. detention centers, i've been to shelters like this one in homestead, florida, that health and human services runs, and the whole system of how we treat folks, i believe, is oftentimes inhumane. and it's unbecoming of our american values and who we are. and particularly when you go to things like a cbp processing center along the border, if you look at folks there in those -- basically in those steel cages sometimes or in the holding cells and no american would be proud of how we're treating these folks. >> i want to ask you because you're on the house intelligence committee, and next week we're -- we will not see, but michael cohen will appear before your
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committee. he's also going to have an open hearing the day before a different committee. what do you want to hear from him? >> well, i want to know whether the president directed him to lie to congress. whether somebody else directed him to lie to congress, as has been reported. we need to know the answer to that question. i co-led the interview of him with adam schiff, my colleague, and the chairman now of the intelligence committee, then the ranking member when michael cone came in over a year ago now. we're going to be following up on a lot of questions we had for him back then to see whether we can figure out gaps in information and also what he was not honest about in that first interview. >> all right, congressman joaquin castro, thank you so much. have a great weekend. we're glad you could be with us. >> thank you. >> that is it for me. "newsroom" with brooke baldwin starts right now.
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thank you so much. i'm brooke baldwin. you are watching cnn, and r. kelly -- that's where we're starting. sources tell cnn that r. kelly, the grammy award-winning musician and r&b star, has been indicted by the cook county district attorney's office. we will learn many more details, but this moment a grand jury was convened in cot, illinois, this month -- in cook county, illinois, this month why relation to the charges against r. kelly. this after michael avenatti said he had given the attorney's office a videotape that showed kelly having sex with an underage girl who refers to her body parts as only -- as 14 years of age. the latest videotape surfaced some 17 years after kelly was first arrested in a child pornography case in 2002. a case in which he was acquitted six years later. today's indictment, the news, coming weeks after a devastating lifetime documentary cle


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