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happening now, breaking news. more cohen testimony. the president's longtime lawyer wrapped up his third straight day appearing before congress, revealing he will answer more questions next week. lawmakers are set to interview a russian-born businessman connected to the president and to the kremlin. kushner's clearance. new reporting tonight that president trump personally ordered a top secret security clearance for his son-in-law and senior adviser overruling concerns among officials and within the white house. crossing the red line. after michael cohen publically accused the president of crimes, house democrats now are digging deeper into areas mr. trump warned investigators not to go. will his children and his chief financial officer now be subpoenaed? failure to summit.
president trump is heading home from vietnam with nothing to show from his meeting with kim jong-un. did mr. trump underestimate kim and overestimate his own ability to strike a denuclearization deal? we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you are in "the situation room." this is cnn breaking news. >> the house intelligence committee chairman says michael cohen answered all the questions in a close dood door hearing th ended a little while ago. there's more ground to cover. he is set to appear next wednesday. the committee chairman says his committee will interview another key figure in two weeks, the promoter of the trump tower moscow project. house democrats are putting their investigations of the president into overdrive right now, fuelled by michael cohen's
ha marathon testimony. that includes the hours cohen spent on television yesterday accusing mr. trump of illegal and immoral behavior. this hour, i will talk to a house intelligence committee member involved in questioning cohen today, congressman castro. first, let's go to our justice correspondent jessica schneider. lawmakers have heard a lot from michael cohen. they have more questions. >> reporter: they do have more questions. that's exactly why michael cohen will be back here on capitol hill to answer more questions on wednesday. he divulged plenty of details. it was in a secure room for 7 1/2 hours today. the chairman said that cohen was fully cooperative and answered all the questions. schiff, as well as other committee leaders, they say that there is a lot more to uncover. michael cohen is not going away any time soon, after spending all day behind closed doors with the house intelligence committee, tonight he says he
will be back to testify again. >> he will be returning on march 6 for additional testimony. >> reporter: the committee's chairman says cohen has more to share. >> he was able to shed light. we were able to drill down in great detail. none of the questions we had for him went unanswered. >> reporter: the committee is working to uncover more about cohen's claim that donald trump junior told his father about the meeting with the russians at trump tower before it happened in june 2016. and his allegation roger stone informed the president that wikileaks was about to expose e-mails from the clinton campaign and the dnc. this after an explosive open session wednesday with house oversight. >> he is a con man and he is a cheat. >> reporter: elijah cummings said there's more investigating to be done across congress. >> is it fair to say the hush money payments is going to be a focus of the committee going forward, how that happened in the white house, the president's involvement is in focus with the
committee? >> probably. what we did yesterday was we gathered a lot of information that i think will be -- we may not look into it, but one of the five of the committees will. >> reporter: cummings they will focus on hush money payments to stormy daniels. cohen showed lawmakers two reimbursement checks, one was signed by the president and the other signed by allen wi weisselberg and donald trump junior. >> do you know if this scheme that the president and weisselberg and donald trump junior is being investigated? >> i would rather not discuss that question. it could be part of an investigation currently ongoing. >> reporter: weisselberg is the cfo. he provided testimony in exchange for limited immunity. cummings says he may call both
men in for questioning before house oversight. cohen opened the door to financial and tax fraud investigations. handing over the 2011 and 2013 financial statements trump allegedly gave deutsche bank as the basis for a loan to buy the buffalo bills. cohen suggested trump inflated his worth for this loan and in other instances when it suited his interest. >> did the president provide inflated assets to an insurance company? >> yes. >> do you think we need to review -- >> reporter: we know that michael cohen has talked about investigations by the southern district of new york. we reported that prosecutors out of new york are investigating the trump inaugural committee as well as executives from the trump organization. there is still a lot more to come here on capitol hill. michael cohen will be back here on capitol hill for more closed door testimony. that will happen on wednesday. now we know that on march 14, we
will hear in public from the russian businessman who played a big part in those talks all surrounding trump tower moscow. >> thank you. let's talk more about all of this. shimon prokupecz is joining us. what should we make of the fact that cohen is coming back again next week? they want him to answer more questions. >> yeah. i think it's been a long day. certainly, it sounds like they want more documents from michael cohen. they are asking him to go back, go through these documents, bring documents back to them. i think michael cohen is being asked about a lot of things that we probably don't even know about yet outside of what we heard yesterday. more importantly, this committee is focused on russian interference. there's also this ukrainian peace plan that we have heard a lot about that michael cohen may have been involved in. there's a lot that they are asking him concerning the russia part of this. they are asking him for more
documents. he will go back and get those documents. some of the documents were with investigators. they are back in his hands. he can be able to provide them to the committee. >> you heard adam schiff say felix sader will testify. he will testify in open public session on march 14. tell our viewers who he is and what he knows. >> he is quite an interesting guy. he is a real estate guy. he has been in business around trump. he has been in business with the president. what is significant about felix sad sader, he was an fbi -- >> an informant? >> he worked with the fbi for years. he has been before mueller. there have been questions about -- he is central in the moscow project as well. it was he and michael cohen involved in that. he is the guy that promised -- let's offer putin a penthouse in
the moscow trump tower as a marketi ining ploy. they were going to offer the penthouse. he has a lot of information. keep in mind, the president trump has tried to distance himself from him. there's video of them together. there's all sorts of photos. it's going to be interesting to see how felix sader addresses his relationship with the president. again, we're going to probably see essentially lies by the president come out about his relationship with sader. he has been in to see mueller. we don't know a lot about what he was questioned about. he is a central figure in a lot of this. he has ties to russians. he has been around this the real estate world for some time. >> he had an office in trump tower in new york city on the same floor that donald trump's office was on. >> there's a lot that he brings to the table in terms of the history here with the russians, the business history, the history of ukrainian peace plan.
there are a lot of parts of this investigation that sader may be able to answer. the fact that he is doing is openly i think is going to create problems for the president. >> another explosive hearing that we will watch on march 14. based on what we heard publically from michael cohen yesterday, i assume that these committees and maybe federal prosecutors, whether in new york or elsewhere, are investigating new threats. >> they are. i suspect federal prosecutors, the ones in new york, knew what michael cohen was going to talk about. there are indications that they approved what he testified to. one of the most significant clues is the stuff that michael cohen was not allowed to talk about. phone calls, communications with perhaps the president, with donald trump, two months after the raid of his home, he said when a member of the committee asked him, when was the last time you communicated with trump or someone else connected, an agent of trump, he said, i can't
answer that. that is under investigation. that's significant perhaps. it could indicate that there's an obstruction probe out of the southern district of new york. we don't know specifically. it was that and there was the other thing that they were asking questions -- members of the committee were asking questions about other parts of donald trump's business, perhaps maybe insurance fraud of some kind. these were questions he said he could not answer because of the southern district of new york's investigation. clearly, they have a lot still going on there in new york. >> see what happens with robert mueller's report. we anticipate that could be emerging fairly soon as well. shimon, thank you very much. this hour, president trump is heading home from vietnam with a one two punch in the gut. in addition to being publically accused of crimes by his formerly loyal fixer, mr. trump failed to strike a denuclearization deal with his new pal the dictator kim jong-un. let's go to jim acosta. he covered the summit for us in hanoi. it ended rather abruptly and rather unsuccessfully.
>> reporter: it certainly did. president trump could not find a deal with kim jong-un. the president did figure out a way to dodge questions about the bombshell testimony coming from his former personal attorney michael cohen. still here in vietnam, we witnessed another episode of the president showing deference to a dictator. speaking to u.s. troops on the way home from vietnam, president trump barely mentioned his second summit with kim jong-un that ended without a deal. >> as you know, i'm on my way back from vietnam. >> reporter: while the president is learning the sequel is rarely as good as the original, there's more drama waiting back in washington. mr. trump still faces critical questions about his former personal attorney michael cohen. >> i think having a fake hearing like that and having it in the middle of this very important summit is really a terrible thing. they could have made it two days later or next week. >> reporter: responding to
cohen's testimony on capitol hill -- >> i am not protecting mr. trump anymore. >> reporter: the president cherry picked from his former fixer's comments, accusing him of lying, except for the part about inclucolluding with the russians. >> it was interesting because he didn't lie about one thing. he said, no collusion with the russian hoax. i said, i wonder why he didn't lie about that, too? >> reporter: during a news conference, the president was only asked one question about cohen's testimony. that's because the president largely avoided the white house press and randomly fielded questions from reporters he had never seen before. including several representatives from chinese and russian state media. as well as a few favorites from back home. >> what are you doing here? >> reporter: the president did reveal why his talks broke down as the summit ended without any concessions from the dictator. >> they wanted sanctions lifted in their entirety. we couldn't do that.
they were willing to denuclearize a large portion of the areas we wanted. we couldn't give up all of the sanctions for that. we had to walk away from that particular suggestion. >> reporter: that's despite a promising moment earlier in the day when kim told u.s. reporters he was willing to give up his nuclear weapons. >> translator: if i'm not willing to do that, i won't be here right now. >> reporter: north korean foreign minister insisted they were willing to deal. perhaps the most stunning moment in vietnam came when the president provided cover for the dictator when he accepted kim's denial he had anything to do with the death of otto warmbier, the college student who died after being held in captivity in north korea. >> he felt badly about it. he felt -- he knew the case very well. he knew it later. he tells me that he didn't know about it. i will take him at his word. >> reporter: another example of
the president siding as he did over interference in the election and with the saudis over the death of jamal khashoggi. as the president left, he could hear questions he avoided, a reminder of the potential new crisis he will face once he lands back in washington. back in alaska, as the president side stepped the summit when he addressed u.s. troops, he did work in praise for the air defense system. >> if i learn so much about norad so many years ago, studying different things. i love this world. >> reporter: the president's only success from the trip was that he was able to avoidancie i -- avoid answering questions about stormy daniels and the plan for wikileaks to release
damaging information about hillary clinton. when he lands in washington, he won't dodge those for long. >> jim acosta, safe travels back here to washington. thank you very much. let's bring in a member of the house intelligence committee involved in questioning michael cohen today, democratic congressman castro of texas is joining us. >> i asked a colleague if you learned anything new from michael cohen. he said that would be an understatement. how would you characterize his testimony that he delivered today behind closed doors? >> i agree with eric. we learned a lot of new things. it gave me a sense of just how big a hole legally president trump and his family could be in, not just from the special counsel but from the southern district of new york and the investigations that they are --
that they have undertaken. >> which is a bigger threat? >> in the long run -- it's hard to say. of course, the special counsel has conducted their own investigation. they have been pretty tight lipped about it. the southern district of new york, the investigations there are very real and could outlast, i think, the special counsel's work. >> the special counsel seems to be wrapping up. in new york, the u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york seems to be only just beginning. can you share details on what you learned, some of the new information you learned? i know there's sensitive information. give us some subjects that maybe you guys are going to pursue. >> as you know, wolf, we're asked not to disclose it because it's committee sensitive. also because michael cone hen i coming back to finish up his testimony. shortly after that, of course, he will start his sentence in prison. as you could imagine, the special counsel's work is separate from the southern
district. as michael cohen said yesterday, they are handling financial issues, perhaps fraud issues, insurance issues and so forth. >> lots of issues underway based on what we heard from michael cohen yesterday. what do you need to follow up on when cohen returns to testify before your committee next wednesday? >> there's actually still a good bit of stuff that we need to go over. basically, there are three buckets of things that we have been dealing with. the obstruction issues, the money laundering issues and, of course, the collusion or conspiracy issues. there's still some, i think, of all of that that we need to touch upon. >> has cohen provided evidence for his claim that president trump knew in advance about the wikileaks release and the 2016 trump tower meeting? >> you know, i missed a part of the interview. while i was there, we didn't -- i didn't hear him talk about it. again, eric or somebody else while i was gone may have heard it. that's one of the things that we need to follow up on.
>> on march 14, you will have a public hearing with the russian american businessman. what exactly do you think the american people will learn from him? >> well, i know what we want to learn. we want to know how closely connected president trump was or donald trump at the time was to that trump tower moscow deal. how closely he was directing it. how much he knew about it as it was going on. remember, this deal -- they're trying to put it together. once candidate trump announced for president. it kicks off in 2015. three months after he has announced for president and continues for several months or over a year. felix sader was the main link to that deal, the man russian link to that deal. he has a lot to tell us. >> adam schiff says you will be deciding on a case by case basis whether future hearings are public or private. are there any other witnesses in addition to felix who we can
count on hearing from publically, at least as of right now? >> yeah. of course, i will leave it to the chairman to decide on the specific witnesses. i still think there are at least half a dozen people that we need to hear from, including some of president trump's family members at this point. >> can you be specific? are we talking about jared kushner, ivanka? are we talking about the chief financial officer of 40 years at the trump organization, allen weisselberg? >> i don't mean to be overly broad. i think it would be fair, most people if they heard the testimony that we did today, would say that it would be fair to bring any of those people in front of the committee for questioning. >> there are now reports that weisselberg is going to be coming before your committee. can you confirm that? >> i can't. i will leave that to adam to follow up with you on. >> i'm sure we will get that fairly soon. let me ask you about a report just posted in "the new york
times." they are reporting the former white house chief of staff john kelly wrote a memo that president trump, quote, ordered him to grant jared kushner a top secret security clearance and former white house counsel don mcgahn wrote a memo outlining the concerns the cia had raised about kushner getting that security clearance. what's your reaction to this report? >> that is very disturbing. there's a reason that clearances are held or not given. so the president to just ignore all of that information, ignore the intelligence agencies and go ahead and grant a clearance to somebody who could possibly have leveraged against them by a foreign government or other issues is a serious matter. congress should take that up and should review it. >> we will have more coming up later. congressman, thanks for joining us. >> thank you. a lot more on all the breaking news and there's plenty of it right after this. one hour pickup order?
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expressed by the officials. let's talk about this with the former director of the national intelligence, general james clapper. he is a cnn national security analyst. thanks for coming in. you have had a chance to look at this "new york times" story. whees yo what's your reaction? >> as they say in the security business, it's a practice dangerous to security to do that when there's the potential for leverage to be exerted by a foreign power or foreign adversary. that's a dangerous practice. it sets a very bad example. >> you worked in the u.s. intelligence community for decades. do you remember a time where a president of the united states, if this "new york times" report is true, ordered someone a relative in this particular case, to get top secret security clearances? >> i don't. i know of no prior case. >> what's the risk? >> the risk is, if there is a
concern about foreign entanglements where a foreign power, perhaps in this case china, could expert leverage because of financial entanglements and then influence or gain access, that's, again, a risky practice. and it does set a terrible example for the rest of the security community. >> we did get a statement from a spokesman for the personal attorney of jared kushner. i will read it. in 2018, white house and security clearance officials affirmed his security clearance was handled with no pressure from anyone. that was conveyed to the media at the time. news stories do not change what was affirmed at the time. you want to respond to that? >> well, there's a conflict there, it seems to me, from -- between that statement and what "the new york times" is reporting. >> let's see what's going on. if "the new york times" report is accurate, and they say they
have four people involved who gave them this information, you are sitting here next to me, the president of the united states, if it's true, personally ordered the top secret security clearance for his son-in-law, jared kushner, but we remember the threats he was making against you and others to remove -- to lose your own top secret security clearances. what, if anything, has happened on that? >> as far as i know, nothing. >> you still have top secret security clearance? >> as far as i know. >> have you used those? have you asked anyone to gather that sensitive information? >> no. >> you wouldn't -- you wouldn't know if it would be denied to you since -- >> i'm sure they would tell me. do something about my badge or informing me what my obligations are by virtue of being debriefed. >> if your security clearances were revoked, they would tell you? >> i would hope so. >> let's talk about michael
cone's testimocon cohen's testimony. he said he had no evidence to back up his claims that the president was given advance notice of wikileaks and the trump tower deal. do you think the testimony was valuable? >> i thought he was credible and compelling. the reason is that, why on earth would he have any incentive to lie under oath again and thereby risk extending his prison term? to me, he had every incentive to be truthful. i take it at face value. the fact he doesn't have any other -- he doesn't possess any other documents or electronic proof of the phone call -- there are other ways to determine whether that actually happened or not. >> presumably, federal prosecutors, whether special counsel or the southern district of new york, they have access to all sorts of information that he
might not even have information. >> exactly. access to phone company records, for example. >> did the president do the right thing in hanoi when he abruptly left? there was no agreement with kim jong-un. you have been involved in relations for many years. >> actually, to his credit, i think he did the right thing. i think no deal is better tlan a b bad deal. i was concerned that in order to generate a counter-distraction from the cohen testimony that he might make a concession, such as agreeing to pull troops off the peninsula. in this case, i think no deal is better than a bad deal. >> i want you to listen to what the president said. he was asked at a news conference before leaving if he confronted kim jong-un on the death of the american student otto warmbier. he said this. listen. >> i did speak to him.
he felt very badly. he knew the case very well. he knew it later. you got a lot of people, big country, a lot of people. in those prisons and those camps, you have a lot of people. some really bad things happened to otto. some really bad things. he tells me that he didn't know about it. and i will take him at his word. >> i will take him at his word. >> this is -- unfortunately, a pattern that seems to have emerged with president trump on accepting the word of autocrats. first of all, whenever the north koreans have u.s. hostages, it's only two or three at a time. that's about the most they have ever had. they are well aware of their status. kim jong-un knew exactly what was going on with otto warmbier. the other thing that bothered me is an insensitive thing to say for the parents to hear.
>> the parents of otto warmbier. >> exactly. >> obviously, very, very sad. he was a 22-year-old university of virginia student who happened to be -- >> for stealing a poster. >> he comes home and he is dead. thanks very much. >> thanks, wolf. >> james clapper, former director of national intelligence for the united states. just ahead, michael cohen is giving democrats a blueprint for building a case against president trump. will he drop any new bombshells when he returns to capitol hill next week? what will house investigators get out of felix sater when they question him after cohen? with all that usaa offers why go with anybody else? we know their rates are good, we know that they're always going to take care of us. it was an instant savings and i should have changed a long time ago. we're the tenney's and we're usaa members for life. call usaa to start saving on insurance today. this is the avery's trying the hottest new bistro.ery's. and we're usaa members for life. wait...and the hottest taqueria?
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simple. easy. awesome. xfinity, the future of awesome. breaking news tonight, house intelligence committee not done with president trump's former personal lawyer michael cohen. he will be back before the panel next wednesday. adam schiff announced the committee will be bringing in the russian born american businessman felix sater who worked on the trump tower moscow project. lots to discuss with our experts and analysts. gloria, what does it say to you that they want more questions to michael cohen next week? >> i think that -- we heard adam schiff earlier, that they felt that he was very cooperative. during these hearings, they can ask questions for half an hour each. it's not the five minute rule
that you get in a public hearing. i think they didn't finish. i think there's a lot more they want to hear from him. it's very clear from watching the chairman that they believe that his testimony was credible and that they need to hear more and to pursue more leads. i think one of the things that came out of this was this public interview with felix sater who, of course, was very involved in communicating with michael cohen about the trump tower moscow project. >> felix sater will be testifying on march 14th in ope this potential moscow trump tower project, hundreds of millions of dollars were at stake. how important will his testimony be? by the way, we have been told he was not subpoenaed. he volunteered to come and testify before the committee. >> let's make sure we understand two different questions. the question of russian collusion and the question of dirty money. if adam schiff thinks he is going to do better than the
special counsel on determining whether there is collusion from the russians, good luck. he is barking up the wrong tree. he will fail. if you look at the hearing yesterday, if you look at the hearings that will follow, the question i would ask is, forget about collusion, that's the mueller lane. are we going to find information that suggests that trump people were involved in dirty money related, for example, to russian real estate deals? that's what i would be looking at. i would not be asking about russian collusion. >> michael cohen, when he appeared today behind closed doors, before the house intelligence committee, he will come back next week, they asked him to bring documents. he will bring documents, according to adam schiff. what does that say to you about a potential road map that he provided congressional investigators? >> yesterday, we talked about he gave a road map p to say, sheer whe here is where to find the
information. the intelligence portion of the house is saying, he was cooperative. he answered all of our questions, which is to the chagrin of yesterday's public testimony. he didn't answer questions you wanted to know like what is the sdny hearing about, the $35,000 check and the installments, what actually do you know. now you have the idea of, why would mueller be so interested in michael cohen? why is sdny? not taking his word for it, he has receipts. the way the american people have been impatient waiting for mueller's report to issue, congress has been waiting, trying to have their parallel legislative investigation go on. now you have spomebody with tie to the kremlin, the trump tower moscow meeting, saying he ca iit
trump carried on talks. now somebody can connect the dots about the influence and what putin was. this may be a matter of impatience. congress is saying, we have had enough. we will talk to you. >> now significant, would the trump organization chief financial officer, how significant would his testimony be assuming he will be called and everybody is agreeing he will be called to testify in. >> very significant. he came up more than once during michael cohen's testimony yesterday in the open hearing. all of the reporting on weisselberg is that he knew about all the financial dealings of the trump organization. whether or not he testifies in open hearing what the special counsel's investigation can find out from him, what the congressional committees can find out from him can tie some of the stuff together about what money was going between president trump and people working for him and for what purpose. >> listen to how the president reacted to cohen's public
testimony yesterday at a news conference in hanoi. >> he lied a lot. it was very interesting, because he didn't lie about one thing. he said, no collusion with the russian hoax. i was impressed with the fact that -- the most important question up there was the one on collusion. he said he saw no collusion. >> did the president hear what he wanted to hear? >> i think so. what about all that other stuff that michael cohen said, that he was a con man and cheater and chapter and verse -- >> a racist. >> all other things. what donald trump is obviously obsessive about, and with good reason, is the question of collusion. what michael cohen said was, he didn't have particular evidence of collusion. it doesn't mean that there isn't any. it wasn't in michael cohen's possession. >> he didn't have direct evidence. he had suspicions. >> but he also did talk about the phone call from roger stone
saying, there's going to be a wikileaks dump which he overheard on a speakerphone. there are ways -- i saw your interview with clapper. there are ways of confirming that. you can look at phone records. the president heard what he wanted to hear, because there was no collusion is his refrain, his mantra these days. he is sticking to it. >> he is. stick around. there's more on the breaking news right after this.
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breaking news tonight, "the new york times" is reporting president trump ordered his chief of staff to give his son-in-law and senior adviser jared kushner a top secret security clearance last year despite concerns voiced by intelligence officials and the top white house lawyer. i want to play for our viewers what jared kushner's lawyer told me about this last year. what ivanka trump said the other day. listen to this. who made the decision to restore his security clearance? how did that happen? >> the intelligence community and the fbi. it happened in the normal course. it happened the way it happens for thousands of people. it goes to initially the bureau, who does a background investigation. it takes a lot of time. it then gets through various agencies, to the white house. there's a special office that does security measures. they're all career people.
there was nobody in the political process that had anything to do with it. there was nobody who pressured it. it was just done the normal, regular way. >> there are a lot of people that question whether you were given special treatment by the president overriding -- >> absolutely not. >> can you speak to that? >> there were anonymous leaks about there being issues. the president had no involvement pertaining to my clearance or my husband's clearance. >> what were the problems early on? >> there weren't any. >> no special treatment? >> . >> i hope mr. lowell comes back and talks to you. he was very categorical that it was just the regular intelligence process. but the "new york times" reporting says they talked to four people, that this was also may that the presidented the white house chief of staff to grant the top security clearance to jared kushner, that he wrote his own memo separately noting this and that the white house
counsel also wrote a separate memo to file about this. >> he is welcome to come back anytime. >> his spokes man released a statement that says in 2018, white house and securities clearance officials affirmed mr. kushner's security clearance was handled in the regular process. and that was conveyed to the media at the time the statement says and new stories if accurate do not change what was affirmed at the time. in other words, this is what we were told and that's what we told you and if that is not true, it is not our fault. >> you worked at the cia and fbi. i assume you had top secret security clearance. what do you think about this story? >> i still do. but in august of this year because of what i said on cnn -- >> august of last year. >> of last year. the president threatened my clearance. not because i did anything inappropriate, not because i took money from the wrong
people, but because of what i said. would one question, why was it senior officials in the white house seemed to think mr. kushner shouldn't have a clearance. is it because he talked to the wrong people or because he took money from the wrong people and didn't declare it? not just a question of the process, the question of why. i was attacked by the president because of what i said. mr. kushner i suspect had a security clearance that was suspect because the of what he did. why. what is it. >> as far as you know, do you still have security clearance? >> not as far as i do. i do. the president threatened me. too much of a coward. if you want to take it away, let's go. it is because of what i said, first amendment. not because of what jared kushner did. where is his money from and why didn't he talk about who he spo to the past. >> he threatened a bunch of people in that. >> because of what we said. we were told since the 18th century we use say what we want and this president says not
true. let's go. >> jared kushner had problems and as we've all reported, he submitted his security clearance four times. and originally his attorney said that it was a premature draft, that was mistakenly submitted. but then it was resubmitted and clearly there were questions about his family business ties to foreign investors and also the fact that remember kushner was the one who said i'll be the back channel to foreign governments during the transition. and maybe some of those conversations had not been reported. so clearly red flags were raised. and they were right to be raised because the form, his original form, had nothing on it about his conversations with foreign officials or his family's dealings with foreign investors. >> legally the president can classify or declass if i whatever he wants. >> he absolutely can. that is his prerogative.if i whr
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the collapse at the summit is being met with mokckery by russia. here is fred pleitgen. >> reporter: tonight the failed trump/kim summit a feeding frenzy for russian state media. mocking the lack of results and president trump walking out on kim. >> translator: it ended so badly the sides even avoided signing any joint agreement. crafty kim jung-un was ready for some concessions, but not the ones trump reportedly wanted. so the agreements that were ready to be signed had to just know back to washington. >> translator: overall very, very meager for such a pompous summit that has been lauded as the biggest deal ever. all right analy >> reporter: analysts claiming that america is not negotiating in good faith and that the u.s. would invade north korea if kim
gives up his nukes. >> translator: kim is risking a lot. if he makes concessions, then trump's successor could say everything this clown trump signed is against our national interests. kim will end up in a gadhafi like situation. >> reporter: while the russians have publicly been backing the talks, even saying that the u.s. consulted with moscow before the summit, putin wants to lead the diplomatic effort to denuclearize north korea, his spokesman taking a swipe at president trump's negotiating style. >> translator: every step should go with flexibilities, certain small agreements. it is impossible to immediately set sights on a quick fix solution. >> reporter: and saying a putin/kim summit is already in the works. >> translator: this meeting is on the agenda. there are no exact agreements right now, but we will continue to coordinate this with our north korean counterparts through diplomatic channels. >> reporter: the russians noting
that kim jung-un is welcome to visit vladimir putin in moscow at anytime convenient for the north korean strong man. >> so there you have it, russians saying president trump's strategy simply isn't working. >> fred, thank you. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. breaking news, michael cohen moments ago wrapping up his third day of tchl estimony on capitol hill. ivanka and donald trump jr. could be next. plus another big public hearing announced, this one with felix say the every, t sater, what does he know about trump's plans to build a tower in moscow. and trump reportedly ordering officials to give jared kushner a security clearance despite concerns from intelligence officials. and he said he didn't do it. turns out it is not true.