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kayleigh hartung live in lee county, alabama, kay lay? >> reporter: just five minutes, that's how little lead time some people here in alabama had before the first two of deadly tornadoes ripped through this community yesterday afternoon. search and rescue operations continued into the night and overnight. the death toll rose to 23 people, and we're told that includes a number of children. we're about a quarter of a mile from what they're considering ground zero of the tornado's devastation in this area, but this is as close as we can get. police saying this is still a very active scene. a series of deadly tornadoes ripping through alabama and georgia leveling home and causing catastrophic damage across both states. >> houses completely destroyed, homes just basically just slabs where once stood a home. >> reporter: the tornadoes are deadliest in years with authorities telling reporters they expect the death toll to
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rise. the path of destruction tearing through lee county, alabama. one tornado appears to have traveled for several miles on the ground in one community destroying nearly everything in a half-mile wide path and sending dozens of people to the hospital with very serious injuries. >> i wouldn't wish this on anybody. this just came on so quick and changed so many lives that, i mean, it's really sickening to watch. >> reporter: neighborhood after neighborhood in this georgia town leveled. roofs torn off the tops of houses. trees uprooted and blocking streets. cell phone towers knocked down. >> this whole area right here is -- is pretty much just gone. looking out over this way which was mostly trees, it just looks like toothpicks broke just all through there. >> reporter: this porch, the only thing still standing from this home. >> contents of one residence we know for a fact we've located
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over a thousand yards away. so we've got a very wide storm track that went through the area. >> reporter: families gathering anything they could find in the rubble to take to safety. >> these families have lost everything they have. >> reporter: in the midst of the chaos, some families reuniting with their pets. >> is that your baby? >> reporter: and their loved ones. >> that's a sweet reunion right there. granny's okay. >> reporter: when the sun comes up this morning, search and rescue efforts will intense if i. in this rural area, authorities say they'll also be using drones with heat-seeking equipment to survey the area. >> course that makes perfect sense. thank you very much for that. tornado outbreak devastating lee county and the aftermath is just dp beginning to sink in. vict
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victor blackwell is live there with more. >> reporter: these tornadoes will be written in the history books, but we are also seeing serious damage to homes and property. and this home say totis a total. this a mobile home and as is typical in natural disasters. the mobile homes shows the worst of the damage. the foundation of this whom the wheels exposed here, tossed on its side, a total loss. some homes in this community have a small amount of damage, others it's just the small things that are salvageable after the storm. but look across the street here, you can see parts of that mobile home a few yards into the woods here, part of the roof here, insulation in the branches. we're seeing also a lot of these exposed roots of trees, lots of trees toppled in this community. but what you're not seeing are the trees in the road. because throughout sunday and overnight crew diseases did a l
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work so that the work that kay lay talked about continues. the survey teams will be out trying to determine how strong the tornadoes were. they can say it was at least an fp-3 was on the ground here. that means that the wins were at least 136 miles per hour. if that were a hurricane, it would be a strong cat four. so a very strong storm is coming through here, those 23 deaths qualifying this for being the deadliest sunday, the deadliest day for tornadoes in alabama since 2011. a lot of work to be done. it all starts when the sun comes up. john, back to you. >> victor blackwell for us on the ground there in lee county. thank you for showing us the situation around you so we can get sans get a sense of how bad it is. we have rita, spokesperson for
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the national emergency system. the last count we had was 23 people killed by tornadoes. has that number changed overnight? >> i would not be able to confirm a number for you. that comes from our coroner and when he gives us statements that's what we rely on. i would not be able to confirm a number. >> i know you have had some 150 people out working the ground over the last 12 to 20 hours. can you tell me what they have been seeing? >> what i can tell you is that we had 150 plus in the field and not counting the 50 or so we had in our merth emergency operatem center. and the devastation that they have seen and had to endure with families who have lost loved ones, injuries, still search and rescue to be done as soon as daylight hits, they exhausted as many efforts as they could last night well into the late hour.
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and many, many of us today without any sleep, many of them without any sleep. >> i'm sure they've been up all night and you in the emergency operations center as well likely up all night. when the sun does come up very, very shortly, what do you expect to find? >> it's going to give a lot clearer picture of just how significant the damage was and just how heartbreaking it is to see a community that was affected so severely is. and we actually had two separate touchdown. and the national weather service has already been out, they came out last night. they're going to be back out this morning. and determining if we had two touchdowns or if there were indeed more than two. right now we're looking at two separate areas. >> have you been receiving calls through the night from people in need? >> not from people in need because we have a system that was set up before we laid down a
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couple of hours ago, it's only been a couple of hours. and a system in place, we have a shelter at the red cross coordinated with us to open at providence baptist church. we have on our website a form where people can contact if they are still missing loved once and they need information on doing welfare checks to try to locate those folks. we have not received calls through the night of people in need. a lot of people have been taken care of through the night. >> well that's good if they are getting what they need. that is reassuring. what's the biggest challenge you're facing as the sun comes up? >> all right. now we've got debris that has to be cleared from the right of way. certain areas are more congested than others. we did have a cell tower that completely covered highway 280
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that had to be removed. and we have a couple of areas in the boreguard community that are just very, very heavily congested. and for people that are just coming there to see what's going on that want to see damage, that twont see thi want to see this have been getting in the way of our first responders. we have repeatedly requested that they don't do that. >> if they are low pressuring to this, we will repeat that, please stay at home. don't get in the way of the first responders that could be out there looking for people suffering at this moment. tell us about lee county. tell us about this community that has been hit so hard by this tornado. >> this is a, for lack of a better word, a phenomenal place to live. it's very, very community and family oriented. other departments, we had
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numerous, numerous paid and unpaid fire working hand in hand yesterday. they there are no twords say how great this community is and how they come together when there's a crisis. >> they're going to need you all to come together right now to see your way through this. just lastly again i know you can't tell us or give us the latest information on the death toll, but we were told it was 23. the sheriff last night said he expected that number to rise. do you still expect that number to go up? >> our coroner actually said that he expected last night the number that he gave in the interview last night to rise because there are still people unaccounted for that they're trying to account for this morning as soon as they can get some light. >> well let's hope, let's hope that when they do get out there and they do search these buildings and this rubble that
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they don't find anyone else who has passed. >> agreed. we've had some heartwarming stories. we had one lady in particular her home was destroyed and she called last night and she said, i went out of town today and no one knew it and my family thinks that i died. and i'm okay. i didn't tell anybody i was going anywhere today. so we've had some positive things also. >> rita smith, we will let you get back to work. please keep us posted as developments take place throughout the morning. we will check back in with you in a couple hours. >> thank you. >> thank you so much. >> thank you very much. >> let's keep all the people in lee county in our thoughts. meanwhile, we have snow in the east coast. nearly a foot of snowfall is expected in some areas, and schools to close in new york city, massachusetts, more than 80 million people are under a first alert storm alert.
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tell us where you are, alison. >> good morning, alisyn, we are right in down town boston and, yeah, it is a beautiful picture here. snow has been falling since midnight here in boston there is six hours of snowfall you're looking at here. this is the kind of snow that's heavy and wet. so on the good part of that, it's great to build snowmen, bad part of it, it's a real bear to move when you're shoveling it from your sidewalks and from your home. also on the roads, heavy snow. they're coating the roads here. good thing is boston public schools are closed today so you're seeing lighter traffic at rush hour. but here's the thing, the snow buildup, it's really piled up during those crucial hours right now when it is going to be that morning commute. so that's the biggest worry right now. sidewalks are getting plowed pretty well. they look pretty clear. i caught a couple guys walking to work saying this is boston, gotta get to work. so as you know, bostonians are used to this kind of snowfall. interestingly enough, this could be the biggest snowfall of the
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season. and it's only expected to b about 7 to 10 inches. all season long so far, boston has only received about 15.9 inches. i know it's march, but it is beautiful even to see the snow this late. >> boston doesn't sneeze at a snowfall like that, that's -- they're just used to it. everybody's dressed in four layers at all times, even summer in boston. >> and it's wicked pretty. cnn meteorologist chad myers joins us now with the forecast. chad, the winter storm upnorth and these tornadoes down south. what do you have for us? >> you know what, john? it really is one system. you need the cold and the warm to get the clash to get the tornadoes. well, on the cold side that's where the snow is. it's ending about worcester but still a couple more hours of snow for boston. this weather is brought to you by boost nutritional drink, be up for life. now let's take you back to about 2:00 yesterday afternoon when
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the storms were moving very close to columbus, georgia. this is lee county, alabama, right there and there's the tornado. now, there are other super cells, in fact, for a time yesterday i counted ten tornado warnings at the same time for ten separate storms. so there were tornadoes on the ground everywhere yesterday across the deep south. move you ahead one hour, albany, all the way into macon just north of the warner-robbins tornado on the ground right there. after dark, cayro in georgia had a tornado on the ground. so this didn't even stop after the sunset if the was a big storm. on the north side, that's where the cold air was. on the south side there is where the humidity was and that's why they clashed and made such significant weather down here. 36 tornadoes. now that's maybe something seeing it from the north and someone seeing it from the south and calling it two separate tornadoes and it may just be one. the weather service will be out there. we know this is at least 150
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miles per hour theernd killed all those people. the forecast is frigid. i know you have a lot of slush in new york city. it's going to freeze up tonight. anywhere that you see snow or ice or even water will be frozen tomorrow morning. not only a bad commute today, but certainly a bad commute tomorrow as well. alisyn. >> chad, thank you very much for that warning and wrap-up. one powerful lawmaker says it's very clear that president trump obstructed justice and he's launching an abuse of power investigation. so we have live reports for you from capitol hill and the white house next. i don't keep track of regrets. i never count the wrinkles. and i don't add up the years. but what i do count on, is staying happy and healthy. so, i add protein, vitamins and minerals to my diet with boost®. boost® high protein nutritional drink has 20 grams of protein, along with 26 essential vitamins and minerals
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the house judiciary committee will formally request documents today from more than 60 people and entities in and around president trump. and another republican senator says he will oppose the president's emergency declaration to fund the border wall. lauren fox is live on capitol hill with the all of the latest. a lot of action there. >> reporter: that's right. and that week you could expect that more republicans may come out against the president's national emergency on the southern border. now, we don't know exactly when they will take this vote, but more republicans say that they're opposed to the president having this unilateral power to build his border wall. senator rand paul announcing that he supports a resolution to block president trump's declaration of a national emergency to build a wall on the southern border.
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write in a new op said quote think there he's wrong. not open policy but in seeking to expand powers of the presidency beyond their constitutional limits. paul joins three other republicans in opposing trump's move, despite warnings from the president. >> i think that really it's a very dangerous thing for people be voting against border skiert, for anybody, including republicans. >> reporter: paul's opposition to the emergency declaration likely giving democrats the support they need to pass the measure and send it to the president's desk. >> will i veto it? 100%. 100%. and i don't think it survives a veto. >> pressure also growing on the pressure from democrats in the house with the chairman of the house judiciary committee jerry nadler announcing that he plans to request documents from more than 60 people and entities with ties to the president. >> we are going to initiate investigations into abuses of power, into corruption of -- into corruption, and into
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obstruction of justice. >> reporter: nadler is seeking information from the president's son, donnal trump junior and the cfo of the trump organization alan weisselberg who mr. trump's former lawyer michael cohen repeatedly referred to during his congressional testimony when discussing potentially criminal behavior, including alleged hush money statements to stormy daniels. >> alan weisselberg made the decision that it should be paid over the 12 months so that it would look like a retainer. >> reporter: president trump again denying wrongdoing and railing against the investigations he's facing. >> there's no collusion. so now they go and morph into let's inspect every deal he's ever done. we're going to go into his finances. we're going to check his deals. we're going to check -- these people are sick. >> reporter: the president, of course, face are more pressure from house democrats this morning. the house oversight committee has a deadline today for the
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white house to turn over information related to security clearances. so we'll be waiting to see if they meet that deadline. and of course michael cohen coming back to capitol hill to testify again behind closed doors before the house intelligence committee. john. >> lauren fox for us on capitol hill. thank you very much. as you heard there with the investigations closing in, president trump is lashing out. he declared, i am an innocent man on twitter and he spent two hours in a fiery stream of consciousness performance before a conservative audience, performance that really spared no one. cnn's joe johns live at the white house with the latest here. joe. >> reporter: john, the president was in rare form over the weekend. especially on twitter as he suggested that the testimony of michael cohen, his former attorney, on capitol hill, while the president was -- was negotiating with north korean leader kim jong-un may have contributed to the failure of
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those talks even though the president got credit even from dre democrats for walk away from those talks because no deal was seen so much better than a bad deal. that, of course, was preceded by the president's record-breaking conversation with cpac in which he railed against the russia investigation and even the special counsel who's in the center of it. listen. >> unfortunately you put the wrong people in a couple of positions and they leave people for a long time that shouldn't be there and all of a sudden they're trying to take you out with both [ bleep ], okay. with [ bleep ]. robert mueller never received a vote and neither did the person that appointed him. >> reporter: busy day scheduled for the president today. he's expected to host the north dakota state football playoff
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champions and after that he's also expected to deliver remarks for the national association of attorneys general. john, alisyn, back to you. >> joe, thank you very much. we want to bring in sung ming minute kim, john avlon, and joe lockhart, former clinton white house press secretary. great to see all of you. joe, what i heard nadler saying on the show was basically a roadmap for what they're going to do for the next two years. it sounded to me like they're going to continue investigations but slow roll any sort of impeachment talk or proceedings. they're not going to get there before the 2020 election, that's just what i read from what he said. >> i'm not sure i'd today be willing to say not before the 2020 election, but they clearly answered the question i think both of you were posing last week. post michael cohen, what now? what are you going to do? i think nadler was very clear
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and adam schiff was clear. then i think if nancy pelosi's hand is all over this, which is they're going to do their own independent investigation, they're not going to be rushed. mueller is not a trigger for them to, it's just a piece of their puzzle. and they'll do it at their own pace. i think they understand the perils of an impeachment hearing and they want to air all of this stuff out before they make that decision. >> and just to reiterate why jerry nadler matters, he's chairman of the judiciary committee which is where impeachment proceedings have to begin if they are going to begin. that is the committee where they would come out of. what i heard, and i agree, i think he was clear that this isn't happening today or tomorrow, but the number 60, sung min, seemed to be designed for shock and awe. when he went out there on the sunday show and told george, basically 60 people, that's a lot of people, the list is long there. >> exactly. it shows just how expansive this investigation is going to be by the house judiciary committee.
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and jerry nadler made it very clear that while obviously beemt is a long way down that road, he does believe there has been obstruction of justice. nadler say careful person who knows he has a difficult role to play. he has been methodical over time in how he frames this and rolled out this investigation particularly since the democrats took back control of the house. and his methodical fashion is kind of how house democrats have been trying to do their investigations in the various committees under the trump presidency. because they know that republicans are going to go after them for overreaching, they know that the president himself derives a lot of, you know, a lot -- he thrives on a political opponent. so that's why you've seen, for instance, investigating the president's tax returns the ways and meenans committee has been slow on delivering the merits of the tax returns. passion legislation later this week, mandating that presidential candidates release
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tax returns and then making that final request to the treasury department for them. this is all part of a strategy, spearheaded by the speakertor take that very deliberate methodical approach to trump investigations. >> john, here's how jerry nadler laid out why he believes there's already been obstruction of justice in plain sight. watch this. >> it's very clear that the president struck t president obstructed justice. he fired -- he tried to protect flynn from being investigated by the -- by the fbi. he fired comey in order to stop the russian thing, he's told nbc news. he -- he's dangle -- he's threat -- he's intimidated witnesses. >> that, to me, was the headline out of the sunday shows was chairman of the judiciary committee saying it's very clear the president has committed obstruction of justice. that's a serious thing. separate from questions of russian collusion, you know, any
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other things they may look at with regard to the finances. but what you're seeing here is donald trump run into the checks and balances that come with divided government. and you are going to see an epic conflict between the executive and congress. and it's going to be fascinating to watch. the president's going to be playing to the base as he did this weekend. and the danger, of course, is that we've all become a bit numb to it. that there's a normalization from it. from the president's speech over the weekend, over two hours long, any number of those sound bites would previously have dominated, you know, a week of coverage and questions about whether the president was well from using the phrase bs for the first time in public to saying that members of congress hate our country. and they're all sort of taken with trump being trump, he's performance art, he's being an insult comic. but there's something cold and hard about the congressional oversight and the inquiries they're going to be getting, and that's where to pay attention to. >> i want to come back to
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congress in a minute, but i know the cpac speech did bug you so i want to give you a chance to say more about what got under your skin there. >> our coverage has been twe treating the president in his own universe, he's not being judged against the standards of previous presidents. and individual statements that would normally dominate headlines are swept under the rug of trump being trump. but it's not trump being trump when the president of the united states say members of congress hate america. first time on record the president has used the phrase bs and there's no shock quality to it, no commentary on it. >> we are past that. i hear what you're saying. >> we're not. >> we are. everybody would say tell me something i don't know about donald trump. >> that's -- >> this is how he speaks. >> that's the danger of normalization that the president can say that members of the opposition party in congress hate our country and we're treating it as just another sunday. it's not. the reason you use history to
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analyze current events is because it imposes a sense of perspective. and if we buy into that normalization, we end up aiding and abetting the dumbing down of our democracy. >> i mean, i think there's a reason that he gave that sort of unhinged speech. one of the headlines out of the weekend from nadler and schiff is there are no redlines. they're going to go after everything, including his family. and i think that has him unnerved. so i agree with everything that john says, that this -- there's something very wrong here and we have to figure out a way to tackle it to give some context for how unhinged this is. but i also think on the other side of it it's a reflection of just how nervous is he because the one thing we've found and we hear, you know, we hear from washington reporters, you know, maggie haberman will come on and talk about who seems to have a thermometer on his mood, that it
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very much, very much has -- reflects the trouble he thinks he's in. >> it's an ear thermometer. tsung mi a conflict between the executive and congress, there is a new conflict between the executive and congrus because the senate will vote on the president's emergency declaration to get funding for the border wall and senator rand paul says he will vote against the emergency declaration side wlgt democrain democrats. it does seem there are the votes to block this from happening, at least before the president vee toes it with rand paul coming out ads he did. >> rand paul is the fourth vote that the democrats would need to get the supporting of the resolution of the president's national emergency in the senate. i expect that number to go higher. most like i upper single digits, maybe even ten republican senators, that's how deep this opposition to the president is.
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i mean, you're talking about a fiery speech from senator lam alexander, senator cruz and senator mike lee have shared similar concerns of senator paul who said in a fox news op-ed are i would literal will he lose my soul if i opposed president obama for using his executive powers and not this one. at the end of the day it appears there won't be a veto proof majority in congress, but there could be some political issues for republicans who do go along and support this disapproval resolution. i've had very smart republicans tell me that for the base, for the republican base this vote to disapprove of this national emergency is going to be did you support the president on this wall or not. that's why you've heard a lot of republican senators who are uneasy about the president going on his own before he actually did it now kind of reverse
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themselves and say, look, we support the president on this, we support the wall and we're going to stick by him. so it will be a very interesting vote to watch in the next coming days when that happens to see who ultimately sides with the president and who doesn't. >> just obviously that's not the issue. the issue is not whether republicans support the president and the wall. it's whether they support the separation of powers. that's what rand paul was going into and why oth aul the other senators, alexander, lee, romney who are deeply troubled and currently up decided, let's watch how they vote particularly if the president vetoes. >> i think rand paul framed. right way. he'd lose i had political saul soul. i said most republicans in the senate and house have already lost their soul. >> it's coming for the know that his long term memory is intact where he said these very words against president obama and he's not going to forget that he said that in 2014. we do have breaking news, political news. moments ago a new democrat, one who folks have been watching for months, joined the race for president. we'll tell you who it is next. (vo) parents have a way of imagining the worst...
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all right, breaking news in the 2020 presidential race. a new candidate joins the
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democratic field and it is former colorado governor john hickenlooper. he is now part of that large group of democrats who wants to beat president trump. he made the announcement in a video release just moments ago. our scott mcclain is live in denver with the breaking details. scott. >> reporter: hey, john, good morning. john hickenlooper will become the 14th democrat actually to join the race for president and he's an underdog. he does not have a lot of national name recognition, he's not the party establishment choice, nor is he a liberal. but he's a different kind of candidate in this race. he's a moderate and pretty unapologetic one at that. we've seen many democrats tack together left. but i spoke with his former speech writer and adviser who assured me his former sbos likely not going to do that. he's not going appeal to the far left progressive wing. but says that should appeal to the party overall because hickenlooper could beat donald trump in the general election. now, he is not a grandstander.
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in fact, he's much more of a pragmatist of who prides him self on being able to work with republicans. a point he made quite clear in the video that he released to markus run. watch. >> with the divided legislature, we got health care coverage for nearly 95% of all coloradoans. we lift listed our rural economy as we bent went from 40th in job growth to the number one neck america. we brought environmentalists and oil and gas companies to the table to create the toughest edge than i emissions law in the country. then we beat the nra by enacting universal background checks then high capacity magazines. >> two things not mentioned in that video by name, donald trump and legal marijuana. outside of colorado, hickenlooper is best known as the governor who campaigned against legal weed and then became the reluctant champion for the legal regulatesed regul
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that he helped create. >> everybody in the pool, the water is fine, scott mcclain. thank you very much for that breaking news. senator bernie sanders, meanwhile, kicking off his second bid for the white house with rallies in two cities where he has roots. and ryan nobles is live in chicago with more. tell us about this, ryan. >> reporter: yeah, that's right, alisyn. good morning. bernie sanders is no longer just a protest candidate, is he in this race to win the white house. and that means he needed to make a few changes from how he ran things back in 2016. those adjustments were on full display in this first big campaign weekend for sanders. but he still has some work do with an important part of the democratic base. bernie sanders 2.0 was on full display this weekend. >> thank you all very much. >> reporter: in chicago where he spoke about the birth of his career as an activist, with his specific emphasis on the civil rights movement. >> real change never takes place from the top on down.
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it always takes place from the bottom on up. >> reporter: and in brooklyn where he opened up about his childhood subpoe childhood. >> i know where i came from. >> reporter: sanders is adding to his repertoire, but what remains is the feverent devotion that he cares about, a devotion he's bring together middle class upbringing. >> my mother's dream was that someday our family would move out of that rent-controlled apartment to a home of our own. that dream was never fulfilled. >> reporter: still, he must confront the past. and that be, too, was right in front of him this weekend. sanders and his former opponent hillary clinton briefly crossed paths in selma, alabama, at a civil rights breakfast where she was being honored. >> let me congratulate secretary clinton on the award she is about to receive. >> clinton sharing a hug with senator cory booker, another
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2020 candidate, as sanders spoke. they're short interaction stood in contrast to her warming greeting of others. sanders still needs to reconcile where he stwanands with clintond her powerful base of support. >> she didn't reach out to work class people the way i think she should have. there were states where she did not campaign as vigorously as she should have. >> some people still blame bernie for bruising clinton in the 2016 election. they say had bernie crossed the democratic finish line first, he'd be sitting in the white house. >> to this day i still believe he would have beaten donald trump. >> and his fired up supporters believe any lingering issues between the sanders camped and the clinton camp are immaterial to the grand 2020 goal. >> you can blame bernie sanders where you want, but we're still here. >> while clinton did not win the election, we received more votes than any canned dilt that
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history. several 2020 candidates have called on her for advice and in search of support. sanders is nor the one of them. >> we have differences. >> you're not interested in any advice from here? >> i think not. >> reporter: and sanders advisers tell me there are still no plans for him to reach out to hillary clinton. they would like to move on from 2016, but there's no doubt that hillary clinton support base remains an important part of the democratic party. and if sanders hopes to unify that group and win the democratic nomination, he's going to have to deal with that group of supporters. >> prickly to say the least. there's some new polling out overnight that shows what chance these democrats have of unseating president, just where the president stands and some very specific hurdles he faces. harry enten joins us next.
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okay, we have more on the breaks news. colorado's governor john hickenlooper jumping in the 2020 race. he joins just as new polling shows some interesting opportunities for the democratic field, and there's something about harry. let's get the forecast with sun yore writer and analyst, harry enten had the john hickenlooper. >> john hickenlooper is in, the water is nice and fine. maybe not so much starting off. this is the road of which he starts out with.
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it will be a long rioad for him to the white house. he's just at 1% of the iowa caucus, 0% in new hampshire. all can he do is go up. >> nowhere to go but up when i look at those numbers. >> nowhere go but up. this is the problem when you have 14, 15 people potentially running many this thing, 16, 17, there's going to be some people at the bottom. but it's a wide open field, we'll see what happens but he starts off low. >> there was polling this weekend that got a lot of people's attention having to do with the president. what do you have there? >> the nbc "wall street journal" poll basically showed that the president was losing to a generic democratic candidate by 7 percentage points. look where his net approval rating, minus 6 percentage points. so these numbers watmatch up we indicating that they're seeing the went 20 elects as a referendum on the united states. how they feel about him is an indication of how they'll vote. >> i thought his recent polling was 41%. >> so it's approval minus
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disapproval. and the nbc poll was one of the better polls for the president. in some other polls that ran this you might see that he was trailing by more than seven. even if this poll where he has a higher approval, he's still losing to a democrat by seven points. >> that difference, tell us why it matters and how. >> if we look back at 2018, 2020 polling looks a lot like 2018 where we saw in the exit polls the president's then approval rating was minus fine percentage points, democrats won the house vote by nine percentage points. how you feel about the president is lockstep in how you vote in those elections. >> there's a correlation there and there often is a correlation there with incumbents but there wasn't that correlation in 2016. >> that's right. this is the big question. will 2020 end up looking more like 2016 or 2018? if you look back at the 2016 exit polls, what you seen was the president's vafr ability rating was minus 22 percentage points. he lost the popular vote by 22
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and won the electoral college. what occurred in that situation was this, which was very, very interesting to me, that was, let's see this, 18% of the electorate in 2016 viewed both hillary clinton and donald trump unfavorably. that was a huge number. he ended up winning those voters by 17 percentage points if the bake a choice between two candidates and the president took advantage of that. versus 2018 only 10% of the electorate had an unfavorable view of both parties. this is the big question. is it going to be that voters like one candidate and dislike the other one? or is there going to be this swath of voters who end up disliking both candidates in the president wants it to be a choice? he wants it to be that you dislike both, that's probably the only way he can win unlis his approve rating rides right now. >> do you have new stuff on plis warren? >> she's all the way down at seven percentage points in the first primary state of new hampshire. why is that a big deal? if you know where new hampshire is, it's right next door to
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massachusetts. >> is it? >> i went to college in new hampshire so i'm somewhat familiar with the state. massachusetts is right next door. nerve that state knows who elizabeth warren is and despite that he's down at seven. she's well behind bernie sanders who leads at the top from next door vermont. even kamala harris, she is somehow still at fourth. that's not good news for her because she needs to win there. >> is she slipping? >> she was higher. she was in the double digits in 18. her support has dropped by half over the last year. >> do you have time to show us february and then -- >> right. so if we look at the national polling, we see that the numbers on new hampshire hind of look the same, biden and sanders are flipped. we see kamala harris 11%, 6% for warren. but if we were looking why these numbers change, we're still very, very early. nbc news "wall street journal" poll asked what would you feel comfortable about supporting a candidate? we see as a high percentage say they'd be comfortable about
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supporting an after wage american or woman. but a 75 plus-year-old person matches one and two, look at this, only 33% say they'd feel enthusiastic or comfortable on the democratic side. that's high these polls are jill very, very early because democrats are saying they don't want to elect someone who's old, yet -- >> that's atheist. >> i don't believe that's ageist. >> i do. people want someone who's young in the electorate. my father was very, very close to me. he was 60 years old when i was born. but i learn with my father sometimes you get up in age and you may be strong at 75, 76, 77, you can't guarantee what will happen four years later. i think that's what a lot of voters are -- >> i hear you. but they're vital. they're running around, they have a lot of stamina right now. >> but some people just not feeling it right now. >> understood. thank you. >> thank you. a critical day, venezuela eacting president guaido calling
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new this morning, tensions are rising in venezuela as the self-declared interim president juan guaido tries to return home. the opposition leader has called for supporters to protest today. patrick is live in caracas with the very latest. patrick. >> reporter: hey, good morning, john. yes, juan guaido says he's returning to venezuela to save this country and that within a few hours he should be here close to where i am in caracas leading an opposition protest. if he's even in the country at that point we don't know. last night he addressed the venezuela people by social media but he wouldn't say if he'd actually crossed in venezuela. had he been over the last week on a foreign tour drumming up support. but he has to come back to keep the opposition united. venezuela's other president, the other man who says he's president of socialist nicolas maduro has threatened to arrest
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guaido. said that guaido is part of an imperialist plot against his country. you have maduro who is backed by russia and china and increasingly these two men, john, on a collision course. alisyn. >> pat tracick, thank you very much for that update. thanks for international viewers for watching, for you cnn talk is next. for our u.s. viewers, these deadly tornadoes have that have gone through alabama. we have an update when new day continues. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. we do begin with breaking news. devastating and deadly tornadoes, the full extent of the damage just coming in to focus as the sunrises. at least 23 people were killed in a series of tornadoes in central and eastern alabama. officials there are warning the death toll is expected to rise. we're getting our first images
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of the destruction in lee county. you can see here entire neighborhoods just leveled, reduced to rubble this morning, the twisted metal and debris. take a look at that, we were told by an emergency management director this was a real problem for reaching people in several, several hours. this was a cell phone tower pushed over blocking eastbound lanes on u.s. 280. georgia is also feeling the storm's impact, at least a dozen tornadoes hit that state causing still more damage. >> the same storm is dumping a lot of snow on the northeast, many public schools are closed in new york, connecticut, and boston. the morning commute is shaping up to be quite messy. 80 million people are under winter weather alerts this morning. but right now we want to begin with the deadly tornadoes. and joining us on the phone is the sheriff of lee county, that county that's been so hard hit. sha sheriff jones, we know it's a
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busy and sad morning for you. has the death to changed since you reported 23 people were killed? >> no ma'am. we currently are confirming 23 fatalities in regard to the storms and, of course, we hope that number does not go up. but we're afraid that it could possibly increase as the day wears on. >> is there any common connection between the 23 people who were killed? were they all on the same street or vicinity? >> all in the same general area. we have about a one square mile area that was affected, a lot of residents within that specific area. and all of the fatalities occurred within that -- within that range here off of alabama highway 51 south of the city of ownershipa lecca. epileka. >> and some of those were children? >> yes, ma'am. >> what is your biggest challenge as the morning light begins there? >>


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