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everyone can do it. in the end you have to pay for your campaign, but you can do it for a cause that's less offensive and rattling. >> do you want to be pure or do you want to have some money? >> there you go. thank you for joining us on "inside politics." don't go anywhere, brianna keilar starts right now. have a great day. i'm brianna keilar live from cnn's washington headquarters. underway right now, the war begins. new hints the president may invoke executive privilege after democrats target the people closest to him. plus, i'll speak with one democrat on the judiciary committee who just referred jared kushner's actions for a criminal investigation. is president trump's response to bigoted remarks suede by politics? why he's condemning a democrat but staying silent on a republican. a chilling new warning. a u.s. general says the military's advantage against russia is shrinking fast. up first, the white house
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plans its strategy has democrats step up their investigation of president trump. the administration is promising to cooperate, but behind closed doors, officials are planning to push back. and that includes the possible use of executive privilege. white house press secretary sarah huckabee sande sarah sanders blasting congressman jerry nadler. she says, chairman nadler and his fellow democrats have embarked on this fishing expedition because they are terrified that their two-year false narrative of russian collusion is crumbling. democrats are not after the truth, they are after the president. and kaitlan collins is following all of this for us. what do you think about the president seeking executive
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privilege? >> it's certainly something on the table, defying subpoenas if it does come down to that. even the white house is saying publicly we're going to cooperate behind the scenes. they're getting ready to push back because this is an expansive document request and democrats have overstepped their boundaries here instead of focusing on targeted lines of inquiry. brianna, part of that pushback could include the white house refusing to produce documents that were requested, especially those that have related to the president's time here in office and maybe dealing with his communications with the former white house counsel don mcgahn, things of that nature they're getting ready to push back on. they've been preparing for an onslaught of negotiations ever since the president won the midterm negotiations. over 80 people requesting documents from 80 individuals
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and entities. now they say they're prepared for more of that to come. now they say the president's tax returns could be next. >> that may be a safe bet. kaitlan collins at the white house, thank you so much for that. democrat ted lew is part of the house judiciary committee. he's with us now from capitol hill. sir, thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you, brianna. >> you heard some of kaitlan's reporting there. the white house team is reporting that the trump administration was pretty surprised by just how expansive this list was and they're planning to limit the number of documents they have to produce, including those from trump's time in office like his communications with the former white house counsel don mcgahn. what recourse do democrats have here? >> thank you for your question. let me say a number of these individuals and organizations cannot claim executive privilege because they did not work in any capacity in the white house, so
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we expect to get all those documents. then for those who work in a senior capacity in the white house, they cannot use executive privilege to cover up other crimes or misconduct. if they try to do that, we'll negotiate with them. if we still don't get those documents, we'll look at issuing subpoenas. >> what do you do? because you heard kaitlan reporting there they're talking about pushing back on subpoenas, if it comes to that. >> they certainly can do that, and then it will be left up to ju the judicial branch to decide how to proceed. if you look at what happened in past standoffs between congress and the executive branch, we did see the judiciary did side with congress in ordering the executive branch basically produce tapes during their nixon impeachment hearings. we believe that they were on legal footing. why would the white house want to hide this information? if they wanted to clear donald trump's name, they would simply produce documents and have him clear his name.
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>> you mentioned that you have made a similar referral of jared kushner to the justice department for reportedly intentionally omitting information multiple times on his security clearance application. do you think that having jared kushner have that clearance is a threat to national security? >> absolutely. i had to throw out these sf-86 security clearance forms, i had a security clearance before entering congress, and right on the form it says, if you make false statements or omit material acts, you can be fined and sent to prison. jared kushner had to send in two forms. the first two were false and misleading, so he should absolutely be investigated. the fact that the cia, the white house counsel all told the president do not do this, do not grant him security clearance. it raises all sorts of red flags and we need to find out why they believe he should not have gotten his security clearance. >> as you're aware, the white
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house is saying this expedition is a fishing expedition. i know when they made that point, you say, yes, this is a wide-ranging investigation, but it's what the committee has the mandate to do, to look into areas that bob mueller cannot. when you look at this list, it's interesting, because you see donald trump jr., you see eric trump. ivanka trump is conspicuously absent from your list, and privately one of your colleagues said there is concern that involving her will backfire politically against democrats. how dedicated are you to finding out what the truth was? >> donald trump and his associates have engaged in a wide-ranging aray ray of misconduct. the fact it's wide-ranging is because we're going to leave no stone unturned.
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if there are documents to be discovered, we'll get them. this if we need ivanka trump to produce documents, we'll ask those questions as well. >> but knowing she says aware of those things. she said it was an issue of national recall and she was aware of that. family members said they were briefed. why is she not on a list to produce documents? >> i wouldn't read as much to say she is not on the list, she could be asked at a later point in time. we just want to get an initial set of documents, 81 organizations. we could certainly ask her additional information in the future, but you're right, she did lie in a very graceful and
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seamless manner about the fact her father had nothing to do with these security clearances, when, in fact, he ordered that jared kushner be given one and maybe he ordered that she be given one as well. >> the white house journal suggests that michael cohen suggested the possibility of a pardon. in his public testimony last week, you'll see that he asked that of president trump. do you think he's lying under oath? >> the attorneys are trying to zealously represent their client. we don't know the communication between michael cohen and his attorneys. what i do know, before michael cohen's testimony before congress, there is no way he'll get a pardon from donald trump. >> i think that is a safe bet. we'll never know, to be honest. never say never. but i wonder if you think it's
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plausible that cohen's lawyer talked to trump's lawyer and this outside lawyer for the trump organization about this idea of a pardon without cohen knowing. is that plausible to you or not really? >> that's certainly possible. if you're a lawyer representing a client rkts will you look at all avenues to help your client. i simply think if the white house were to grant any, that would be social injustice if the intent was to keep the person from testifying. >> congressman ted lieu, thank you so much. >> thank you, brianna. democrats say ivanka trump is not on their list right now. that could change, though. you just heard congressman lieu say that. our analyst dana bash is here to sort this out. why isn't ivanka on the list? >> why she isn't on the list is really interesting, because you could look at that time and say,
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well, perhaps she isn't on the list because the focus is on things that house democrats know that every family members, don jr. and ivanka trump, for example, were at the meeting in 2016. what defies that is eric trump, who was also not in that meeting and not involved directly -- they were all involved in the campaign but not in anything directly, as far as we know, except the trump campaign. he is on that list. it's the. you heard that it was politically more dangerous for democrats to put you on. they were going to come back
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this it. that but it sounds like what you grot ted lieu, and what enginje nadler said, she may be close to being added. >> here's what rudy giuliani said about ivanka. >> if they do add ivanka -- i don't think they will. >> what about his son-in-law? >> jared is a fine man, you know that. but men are disposable. but a fine woman like ivanka, come on. >> is that how the president sees it? of course. that's a nerve to him concerning jared kushner and all of his friends? >> i'm told that when you get close to him, to any of his children, it is a raw nerve.
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for any parent you would understand that. but when you kind of take a step back, it's nant -- investigators see as a potential avenue of inquiry that she could help with. is it what they're looking at in regard to the. there are reports she could have somehow been involved in that. if there isn't anything she can shed light on, she a potential -- and again, these are non-russian relately. it's not just because she is the daughter, it's because of what she could be involved with, all these potential items of inquiry. >> dana bash, thank you so much. also just in, the organize
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the house democrats' investigation into the president's ties to russia just got a lot more interesting. house intel chairman adam schiff has hired daniel goldman, a former u.s. attorney in the southern district of new york who is well versed in russian organized crime to spearhead the committee's investigation. we have elliott williams with us. he is a former deputy assistant ag at the doj and former counsel
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to the senate judiciary committee and cnn political correspondent sara murray with us as well. what does this hire signal to you, elliott? >> i know dan. that is a top prosecutor and a great lawyer with a long history of building investigations. so it's clear this is not just some partisan hit job, daniel is not a hack or anything like that, is that they want to get to the truth. if the public can believe that these investigations are a quest for truth and not a partisan hit job, then they'll succeed. >> his background in russian organized crime, why is that significant to note? >> because it's very hard to get information out of foreign countries. it's very hard -- investigations are hard to build as a general matter. russia is a particularly thorny place because you're dealing with mutual treaties and all kinds of things like that that complicate prosecution. so i think it's very hard to get someone -- not tied to russia but who knows how to investigate in russia. i wouldn't get into the
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conspiracy theory zone and the mere fact they're hiring daniel is a sign they're going after the president for collusion or anything like that, it's just that knowing the background of what you're investigating is a very important step in the investigative process. >> so the special counsel counsel, sara, actually notified the judge that roger stone may have violated what is now a very strict gag order in his case. the instagram post that he put up is interesting and what his spokesman took down. >> they notifi this also includes a book release, right? >> yes, they didn't notify about the book release. it's pretty clear by his post that roger stone thinks he can tow the line and get away with some of these antics. we'll see what the judge thinks.
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she has not weighed in on what's going on with roger's book release, this latest post. they just said, hey, just want you to know that this is out here. >> why do they want the judge to know? >> they don't want roger out there tainting a possible jury pool. they don't want him tainting the way the case looks by saying he was framed. that suggests this is an entirely made-up case, and that's not where you're having that argument. you might want to have that fight politically but this is now a court case and you have to have that fight in the courtroom. >> what's he thinking? when you look at someone like this, a defendant like this doing this kind of -- not just once, twice, and then there's the book -- what do you think? >> it's staggeringly poor judgment. i think about my five-year-old where really it's about testing the limits of what you can get away with, which is what little kids do. that's what he's doing. the difference is the person he's testing can hold him in contempt of court, can put him in jail --
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>> do you think he wants to be in a way? do you think it forms the narrative of being persecuted? >> federal judges take the rule of law and what happens in courts very seriously, almost to a fault, almost too much. this is a judge that's proven and demonstrated that she's not amenable to feeling like she's being okey-doked. this is what roger stone is doing. i would be stunned if some book wasn't thrown at him -- maybe it's his own book, i don't know. >> it's not out yet, elliott. >> "fact check" not out yet. do you think he wants to get in trouble in some way or no? >> it's hard to say. when he does things like that that are incendiary, he's doing it try to raise money for his legal defense fund, and he thinks the more inflammatory you can be, it riles people up, you can get more money. if he does get himself thrown in jail, they can use that as
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another way to raise money and say, look how unfair this is. but when you look at the steps this judge has taken to try to warn him and keep him out of jail, it's kind of hard to look at this and say, she gave you a number of chances and you blew it. >> he's creating legal costs, too, by doing this. elliott williams, sara murray, thank you guys so much. we have more breaking news. the white house gearing up to push back against the white house as they demand documents from dozens of people. plus we're getting a sneak preview of the seeds of trust the president is sowing ahead of the 2020 election. and the president blasting remarks of a democrat but silent on a republican. rian antique! all right, how much for the recliner, then? wait wait... how did that get out here? that is definitely not for sale! is this a yard sale?
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this is beyond wifi, this is xfi. simple. easy. awesome. xfinity, the future of awesome. president trump's 2020 reelection campaign is lashing out at house democrats, calling their investigations into the president a dramatic overreach. but another line in that statement is giving some insight into the campaign's 2020 messaging. we have cnn politics reporter and ed tore at large chris cilliza. tell us what stuck out to you. >> the president is running his mouth accurately, so when we see this, we have to comment. this is what i think is
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important. they seized the power they have zero chance of winning legitimately. just keep an eye on that word legitimate legitimately. he is essentially saying the democratic candidates are terrible, that they're going after something they cannot legitimately win. this is from cohen, this is his testimony in front of the house oversight committee. given my experience with mr. trump, i fear if he loses the election in 2020, there will never be a peaceful transition of power. michael cohen, proven liar, is going to jail in part because he lied to congress, so keep that in mind. but i do think we have some evidence of donald trump, if a loss comes, will not take it well. what is the evidence of that? he won in 2016 and said 3 to 5 million people voted illegally
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without any evidence whatsoever. he did that because he didn't want hillary clinton to win in the popular vote. keep that in mind when we're talking about the possibility if donald trump loses, he will not acknowledge that the election was administered fairly and that this is an accurate reflection of what the american people want. back to you, brianna. >> krirchris, thank you. let's talk to a representative from pennsylvania and senior commentator rick santorum. as chris was over there explaining this to us, you were shaking your head why? >> i understand the point he's making, and i think he's correct that if donald trump loses the election by a lot, he's going to question the legitimacy of it. you're right, he questioned the legitimacy of it when he won. but i think that's the extent of it. i think it's just his nature, but the idea there will be any
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kind of resistance of handing over power, i think, goes beyond the pale. that just will not happen. >> that concern aside, which you do not have, do you worry that by doing this -- and you said he questioned the legitimacy after last time because of the popular vote. however, before the election he also was laying the groundwork for the narrative that if he were to lose, it is a rigged system. this seems to be very close to what he's doing now. do you worry that he's undermining confidence in the electoral process? >> i don't because that's sort of who donald trump is. he can never be seen as a loser, and so he has to do everything -- >> i mean, that's not mutually exclusive by undermining the electoral process. >> my point is the electoral process is more than just donald trump. and there will abe a whole body of republicans, me and many, many others, who will stand by the elections and move forward with the transference of power.
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i'm not saying me, i'm saying the republicans that work in that administration as well as in congress, and the idea that because you have a president who has a history of calling questions of anything that is negative about him personally and questioning the legitimacy of any negative criticism or any negative outcome related to him is not going to have an impact beyond just his rhetoric. >> but people listen to him and they believe him and they repeat what he says. no offense to you or those other people in the white house, they may listen to him more than they're listening to you guys. >> i think what you'll find is, if the unlikely happens, because i think there is a good chance he will win reelection, but if he doesn't win reelection, there is no question that the large swath of the republican party and the leadership for the republican party is going to recognize legitimacy. it's much too important an institution to allow it to be
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sullied in that way. >> i do think you're right. i wonder what the impact is on the confidence. we'll have to see, actually, though. i want to ask you about something different. freshman congresswoman ilhan omar is back in the spotlight. she tweeted critics, including some in her own party, see, this is anti-semitic, certainly anti-israel, and president trump called her comment, that pro-israel lawmakers have an allegiance to a foreign country, that's what she said. he called this quote "a dark day for israel." she's been rebuked by some people in her party. you know the democrats are coming up with a resolution that doesn't call her out by name. is that enough? >> there is a fine line between criticizing the state of israel, which everybody has a right to do, and representative omar has been very forthright in expressing her concerns, representative tlaib and many others. and going into these anti- hi
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anti-semitic tropes. what we don't see discussed a lot, there is a real division in the democratic party, the progressives, the socialists, whatever you want to call them are very much pro-palestinian and very much have concerns about israel, not just because of benjamin netanyahu who they find distasteful, but i think just the whole oppression that they see of the palestinian people by israel. so this is a divide. it's not one that's often talked about in the media, but it is a huge divide in the democratic party and it's only going to grow bigger as you see the influence of the president having more effect in the democratic party. >> when the president lashes out and criticizes congresswoman omar -- and i see you're making a distinction. the other one was very much trafficking and anti-semitic
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trope. you're describing this is more just about israel but it's a fine line. he's seizing on this. do you wish that his application of criticism was a little more non-partisan? i ask you that because he didn't say anything about steve king whose rhetoric about white supremacy and inherent in that anti-semitism -- the president hasn't said anything about that. >> i would love to see a lot more honesty and a lot less politics here in washington, but i don't think you really see less of that. and you look at what's gone on in virginia -- >> would it help republicans if the president said something about steve king, that he was paying attention to what's going on in his own house as well as the other? >> i think it's always helpful when someone in politics shows that they have consistent principles and that they're going to apply those principles irrespective of who they're for. i don't think trump is an
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anomaly in that, i think he's pretty much the norm in that. i think it is important that we saw in virginia, you know, a lot of democrats speak out, but what's happened? nothing has happened. and the issue has sort of gone away. that, to me, again, is a double standard. if that was a republican having done those things, this would be a drumbeat, drumbeat on the left to get rid of these politicians. you can blame trump but the same thing is happening on the other side, and no one is really criticizing that. >> i want to ask you about senator rand paul. because he says he believes there are ten senate republicans who will vote to block the president's national emergency declaration when it comes to the border. in the end that's not going to be enough to override a veto. i know you're not really a fan of this route the pretty sident taking. is that a message the president needs to heed? >> here's the distinction i would draw between what republicans are doing and what happened under obama with two
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major things, which i think are much more egregious constitutionally than what the president is doing here. the president has statutory authority to declare a national emergency. president obama didn't have the authority. in fact, went over congress' head more particularly in obamacare and spending money there, but also with daca and the immigration thing. the democrats were uniformly behind him. republicans had to bring lawsuits that actually stopped the president from doing these things. not a single voice said anything on the democratic side. at least give credit to the republicans for showing dissent and actually standing up for congressional prerogative -- >> in fairness, showing dissent is all that's going to happen. because there aren't enough of them -- >> i agree. but give credit a little bit where credit is due that there is not a monolith on the other side. there are at least some voices that are expressing concern as opposed to everybody locking up. >> what does that do? >> i think it sends a shot
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across the bow. >> what does that do? >> well, i don't know. i suspect there will be another executive order come down the pike that the president wants to do. this president has been very active on front of executive orders, something he says is by necessity. it's the same excuse barack obama used. congress isn't working with me so i have to do it all by executive order. we've seen now two presidents in a row because of this dysfunction in the congress, and candidly, in part, their lack of being able to bring people together in the congress, have led to more executive actions. they're saying, enough is enough. i think this is a good show of force you'll see in the house and the senate, and hopefully it will chasten the president in the future. >> if he's able to be chastened.
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>> congress for decades have been giving their authority to the president of the united states through the legislation they pass, through their unwillingness to stop the regulatory process of the president or executive orders, and at least we see one instance here where some are speaking up. >> senator santorum, thank you very much. more breaking news. two democrats demanding a formal investigation into white house adviser jared kushner. plus a sobering new warning from the top use general overseeing u.s. military operations in europe. why he's uncomfortable about america's ability to deter russian aggression. superior preference from l'oreal. translucent, liquid gel formula. luminous, fade defying color that lasts. with incredible dimension. preference from l'oreal paris. there's brushing...and there's oral-b power brushing. oral-b just cleans better. even my hygienist said
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a top u.s. general is sounding the alarm about the growing threat from russia. during public testimony on capitol hill general curtis scapalotti warned the u.s. needs more troops and warships in europe to counter that threat. >> i'm not comfortable with the deterrent we have in europe for our defense strategy. if you look at both the building capability and the modernization of the russian forces that we face there. and then finally of concern is my intelligence surveillance and reconnaissance capacity. given that increasing and
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growing threat of russia, i need more isr. >> retired general john kirby is with me now. some observers look at this and say that's pretty remarkable that he's detailing a threat. maybe this is a rebuke of president trump. you don't see it that way. >> i don't see it as a rebuke of trump. i know the general very well. that's just not his way. he's doing what your combatant commanders want you to do, so he's laying it out straight, here's how i see the security environment, and it shouldn't surprise anybody that he sees it the way most analysts do. russia is trying to boost their capability, they are becoming more of a threat on the continent, so i think he was laying it out honestly. >> one of the more frightening things he talked about was this key missile treaty. >> a treaty signed in 1987 by gorbachev that controls the missiles and trump said he's
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going to pull out of it. they said they're going to pull out of it, too, which leaves no arms race. what i was stunned to hear general scapa arkscapacotti say doesn't know how they'll react to this failure of the treaty. >> this is a key step but there would be other things that need to happen that i'm pretty sure would alarm you following removal from the treaty. what would it look like? >> on the research and development side you would have to begin building those capabilities because we don't have them. russia has been cheating, we haven't been. now we have to start building those capabilities. number two, and this is important, brianna. they're only good where they're placed. they're not long enough range to reach europe. you have to base them in europe. so we need to look at basing operations, which listening to the general, it doesn't sound like they've moved very far down
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that path. >> thank you, john kirby, as always. adam schiff has said he hired a high crime prosecutor well versed in the russian mafia to lead investigations into the president. what does that tell us about the democrats' strategy? this in to cnn. explosives have been found at two london airports and a train station. we'll take you live there next. and elbow grease. the official truck of getting to work, and getting to work. it's the official truck of homecoming, and coming home. the all new chevy silverado. just announced! 0% financing for 72 months on this all-new silverado has been extended for chevy truck month. find new roads at your local chevy dealer.
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breaking news. three packages containing improvised explosives have been found near two airports and a train station in london. let's check in now at the train
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station where one of these packages was found. what can you tell us, nina? >> reporter: thanks, very much, brianna. i'm outside the train station. this is one of the key commuter hubs in and out of the capital heading toward the south and southwest, so it's used by many hundreds of thousands of people every single day. this is one of the locations that one of those small improvised explosive devices was found. it was found around mid-morning but already authorities have intercepted one other package at hee throw airport which is one of europe's biggest transportation hubs. that was intercepted earlier on in the morning and there was a third package that was intercepted in the smaller airport in the city of london in east london. as a preventive measure, authorities temporarily evacuated some of these builds but made it clear that these were small devices that appeared to have been mailed from the same location or at least the authorities are treating this as
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a linked investigation. they said these were not particularly destructive devices but they could have been enough to cause a small fire. the investigation will continue as to who sent these and what the motivation would have been behind this. >> do they have any concerns that there could be more of these devices to discover, nina? >> reporter: well, the timing of this is significant in the sense that the first device was intercepted around about 9:40 in the morning. again, at the height of the commuter rush hour in places like hee throw it was mailed to the confines. another one here roundabout mid-day, another lunchtime peak traffic point and then one later on in the afternoon just as people were trying to take planes to and from various european locations and parts of the uk. for the moment, authorities have reopened all of these facilities after they were shut for preventive measures and
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evacuated so that would indicate that at the moment they feel they have the situation under control. the question will be, were these small devices that were designed to disrupt peoples' behaviors and cause chaos among commuters, were they the sign of something more serious? the uk raised its terror alert last year after a number of attacks and thwarted attacks. it downgrade it had to the second highest level. brexit is set to happen in less than a month and so for this reason, authorities will be looking very closely into why these packages were sent to these key transport locations, brianna. >> all right, nina, thank you so much for that report. as democrats are starting to target nearly everyone in the president's orbit, a defiant white house is pushing back. new cnn reporting details exactly how they're preparing to fight these requests. plus it seems the trump administration doesn't invite
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task force to advance research and prevention efforts. a father, a leader and a loving brother, that is how loved ones are remembering a group of american tourists killed in a helicopter crash in kenya over the weekend. the helicopter crashed in the central island national park on the country's northern border and when a rescue team arrived, all four american on board and the pilot were dead. kyle would have turned 30 in august and in a statement to cnn, his wife describes him as lovely, in addition to his wife, he leaves behind five children and a sixth child on the way. the family of 28-year-old anders asher burke says that kenya was berk's favorite place on earth. he had recently purchased land there. those closest to him say he was nothing short of magnetic and brandon stapford who had been posting photos on instagram just before the crash.
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his brother describes him as a best friend and a father figure ever since their dad died when they both were young. >> everything that brandon did was at the highest level, so loved by so many people. it's crazy. >> david mark baker was the fourth and final victim to be identified and the cause of this crash is still under investigation. that is it for me. erica hill is in for brooke baldwin and "newsroom" starts right now. hello, and thanks for joining me. i'm he cana hill in for today for brooke baldwin. we begin this hour for new signals of where house democrats may be focusing their investigations into president trump. chairman of the house intelligence committee adam schiff announcing he's hired a veteran prosecutor with experience in going after russian organized crime. daniel goldman worked as a attorney for the southern district of new york,ef

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