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jared and especially mbs and there's one major reason why they're concerned, this ongoing conversation that's happening between the u.s. and saudi arabia about a potential nuclear deal and so the concern is that there might be some private business interests that have been entangled into these conversations that have to do with potential government deal. >> so what is the typical procedure for meetings like this? >> so typically, when a member of the u.s. government goes abroad, they often interact very intimately with the state department embassy in whatever country they're in in terms of security, in terms of setting up appointments, in terms of, you know, inviting officials from that embassy into those meetings. and so, what we know from this trip is that there was a state department official inside some of these meetings, but that state department official was not from the embassy in rehad. he was an individual that works very closely on iranian matter and the only people briefed on
this trip were secretary pompeo, this individual that worked on iran and jared kushner's team in the white house. there's been very little readout about what actually went on in saudi arabia and, like we said, that's concerning members of congress. >> erin banco, thank you. i'm ana cabrera in for brooke baldwin. any minute now paul manafort learns his fate. donald trump's former campaign chairman is facing the first of two sentencing hearings today which will determine whether the 69-year-old will spend the rest of his life behind bars. manafort was found guilty of defrauding banks and the government and failing to pay millions of dollars in taxes charges stemming from the special counsel's investigation. now prosecutors say manafort deserves up to 25 years in prison. again, in this one case, the case in which he was convicted on all these charges and he should pay millions of dollars in fines and restitution. he was convicted by a jury after a three week trial last summer and since then, manafort has shown little remorse prosecutors say, even lying under oath following a plea deal after that
trial. shimon prokupecz is cnn's crime and justice reporter. he's outside the courtroom in virginia for us. what can we expect here, shimon? >> reporter: yeah, just in about a half hour or so we expect things to get under way here. paul manafort's lawyer and wife are inside the courtroom already. we expect the hearing to begin around 3:30. we may hear from paul manafort, it may be his last-ditch effort here in all of this to try to get leniency from the judge. paul manafort who is 69 years old, could, could face the rest of his life in prison, certainly any hefty sentence here would perhaps prevent him from ever leaving prison. he would have to spend the rest of his life, his birthday in just a few weeks on april 1st. he turns 70, but we do expect to hear more from his attorneys. we'll hear from prosecutors explaining why he should get up to 25 years in prison and then finally, we probably will hear from paul man first who's going
to try and get leniency from this judge. >> all right. we will be watching closely and we'll be discussing the outcome as it unfolds. thank you shimon. also moments from now, house democrats are gearing up to take a vote on a resolution condemning hatred in all forms. a resolution rooted in controversy surrounding minnesota congresswoman ilhan omar. she's faced bipartisan criticism and condemnation for using anti-semitic tropes in tweets and other comments she made, but within the democratic party a split has emerged over how to deal with these comments and the backlash that is followed. earlier house speaker nancy pelosi said it is up to omar to explain what she meant while also saying the freshman democrat perhaps didn't understand the impact of her remarks. >> i feel confident that her words were not based on any anti-semitic attitude, but that she didn't have a full appreciation of how they landed on other people where these
words have a history and a cultural impact that may have been unknown to her. >> let's bring in cnn congressional correspondent phil mattingly on capitol hill. phil, how did this end up creating such a divide between democrats? >> reporter: i think the interesting moment is what is really happened over the course of the last couple weeks with the congresswoman's remarks is it ripped the lid off a clear divide between members of the democrat caucus and the democrats on the whole. it's split between different groups. you have older members of the democratic caucus, jewish members who are furious at what the congresswoman has said, particularly the latest comments related to dual loyalty which is considered to be an anti-semitic trope and then you have members and allies that are close to ilhan omar who believe she's unfairly being targeted here. there are broader issues particularly because she's a muslim member of congress, particularly she's been targeted. they've been trying to plug the gap here over the last couple
weeks as this has built internally. it has built. the frustration has built. what speaker pelosi has tried to diffuse that. take a listen as to how she described things earlier today. >> we're working now on a resolution, we'll see when we bring it to the floor that we'll, again, speak out against anti-semitism, antiislamaphobia, antiwhite supremacy and all the forms it takes. that's what we're working on, something that is one resolution addressing these forms of hatred, not mentioning her name because it's not about her, it's about these forms of hatred. >> reporter: so the resolution itself doesn't mention the congresswoman but it has been expanded from four pages to seven, not just talk about condemnation for anti-semitism but also condemnation for bigotry and white supremacy. the seven page resolution does mention the dual loyalty issue,
condemns that explicitly but the effort here for democrats, particularly democratic leadership is trying to address this and try and move beyond it. as you know quite well, democrats have a lot on their agenda. this is not an issue or a fight they wanted to be bogged down in but they very much are at this point. >> it is an important issue and big part of the discussion right now. phil, thank you. more breaking news this hour involving another associate of president trump. michael cohen has just filed a lawsuit against the trump organization. the president's former personal attorney says the company failed to fulfill its contractual obligations when the trump organization abruptly stopped paying his legal fees last summer and joining us now to talk about more of this, cnn chief legal analysis gloria borger and ariana berg. so, gloria, as we look through this lawsuit, cohen is essentially saying between june of 2018 and now he is owed money
for his congressional testimonies, the stormy daniels lawsuit involving the defamation claim, the search of his home and office. he says he's owed damages that were incurred with that. his cooperation with the special counsel and the criminal cases against him. he says these fees incurred exceed $1.9 million and they continue to accrue. what's your reaction? >> michael cohen believes that he had a deal with the trump organization that they would pay for his legal fees, period, end of paragraph. this shows that he says that he spoke with eric and don junior about this when the fees weren't being paid and that he is due those fees. from the trump side, i think there's a feeling that they believe that they agree to pay michael cohen's fees when there was a joint defense agreement and there was an extensive document review as a result of that, but once michael cohen decided to cooperate with
investigators, they pulled back. so michael's point is, we had an agreement that you would pay for my legal fees, period, no matter what and he's decided to sue them. >> ariana, what's the reality cohen gets a check cut? >> well, you know, it's not uncommon in large companies for senior management to get these sort of sboisks agreements. what these do is they allow for the payments of attorney fees by the company for any matters that arise within the scope of their employment and usually as we can all imagine carved out from that usually they don't agree to pay for attorneys' fees for criminal activities committed by the employee. so here we have an interesting issue because michael cohen's job we could say as a fixer and
personal attorney for donald trump, you could say that the matter is within the scope of his employment were criminal, potentially, unto themselves, at least sketchy and so the question really becomes here, is can -- are they obligated to pay out attorneys' fees after their interests have divided, after cohen essentially agreed to start attempting to cooperate with the special counsel's office -- >> against the interests of trump's team. >> exactly. >> i was just going to say, michael cohen's job was to protect donald trump, which he did and then the question is, as you point out, when he stopped protecting donald trump, does the agreement end or does it continue? >> okay. now he wants almost $2 million in back pay. we'll talk about that but i also want to ask you a little bit about this new reporting that
michael cohen may have sought out a pardon from president trump despite definitively saying this at his congressional hearing just last week. >> i have never asked for nor would i accept a pardon from president trump. >> he says he wouldn't accept and he's never asked for it. according to lanny davis, when the fbi raided his office nearly a year ago, cohen asked his attorney at that time to talk to the trump team including rudy giuliani about a pardon. cohen did not lie to congress because cohen never asked the president directly. giuliani tells cnn, quote, i have been asked about pardons by lawyers and the press and, quote, i never offered anyone a pardon. lawmakers say presidential pardons are amongst the hot topics that they'll be investigating in coming weeks. as for cohen's krenlt going forward, here's republican
senator susan collins. >> michael cohen asked for a pardon, i do think that that is problematic because it casts doubt over the veracity of all of his testimony. >> gloria, i know you have new reporting on the pardon discussion. this is really moving target, isn't it? >> it is and it's a very confusing story and i and pamela brown and others in our team have been trying to kind of deconstruct what happened when, because it's very confusing about what exactly was discussed, who was initiating these conversations, and how far they really progressed? i think what we know is that there were a couple of attorney to attorney conversations in which a pardon was raised. the question of a pardon was raised about how michael cohen's case could be resolved, for example, between michael cohen's
attorney and rudy giuliani and michael cohen's attorney and an attorney for the president but it was raised in a cordial way and not as michael cohen wants a pardon, will you give it to him? okay? so when michael cohen was talking about he never asked for a pardon. >> right. >> what he may be talking about and what i think lanny davis is talking about is this time line which shifted because once he declared his independence from donald trump in early july of last year, there weren't any conversations. so i think when they had a joint defense agreement, there were some lawyerly conversations about this possibility, but once they split, there were no conversations. does that make any sense? >> it makes sense but it didn't make sense because when cohen was testifying before congress, he didn't stipulate, he didn't say, well, we talked about it at one point but after i decided i
wasn't going to cooperate with the president's team and was instead going to cooperate with prosecutors, i no longer wanted or was seeking a pardon, so ariana, in your interpretation, did michael cohen lie to congress? >> yeah, i think this pardon issue -- i think the reason why we care about this pardon issue is for two reasons. one, is, it potentially goes to michael cohen's credibility as you mentioned he did testify in front of congress and he stated pretty definitively, he used that n-word, the never word, which as a lawyer you never instruct -- you really should instruct your client never to use the word never because it gets you in trouble and here it might very well have gotten cohen in trouble. it doesn't -- i don't think it rises to the level of criminal exposure for perjury for michael cohen, but i think it does really run the risk of a major credibility problem for michael cohen. he went into those hearings with those credibility issues.
he's obviously pled guilty to lying in front of that very congressional body before and we know him to be a longtime chronic liar on behalf of donald trump. we really needed him to come into these hearings with the slate completely clean. he needed to come in and say, maya cull pa, i did wrong, i lied in the past but now going forward you can trust everything that i say in front of you and this one i think, if proven to be true, that he did actually seek out a pardon, i think it takes a little bit of the credibility out of what he has to say. having said that, though, he came with receipts, he came with documents that backed up all of the critical points of testimony in front of congress, so while i think it dings him a little bit, i don't think ultimately it sinks his testimony. i think he said a lot of really
reliable things that were corroborated independently by documents. >> i'm remembering that statement, too, that i never asked for a pardon, it's almost as if he were waiting for a follow-up questions who never spoke about the pardon again. >> what's the difference between open to a pardon, having your attorney have a lawyerly discussion about these are the options that await michael cohen versus asking for a pardon? and when he was part of a joint defense agreement, you would assume he was open, you know -- open to the idea of a pardon. when he decided, you know, sorry, i'm not going to defend donald trump any more, you can -- you can see how things -- how things would change, but, you know, these are -- these are questions, i guess, congress is going to have to consider because there are lots of republicans who are raising these very issues. >> yep. we know jim jordan is among them who's already asking the department of justice now to look into whether cohen perjured himself. ladies, standby, because that's the cohen news for today but moments from now we are expecting paul manafort to be
sentenced. we're also expecting the house to start debate on that antihate resolution that has caused major democratic infighting, plus -- senator sherrod brown gets out of the 2020 race. one of five contenders who have decided not to run just this week. we'll get reaction from his fell ohioan, former republican governor john kasich. we're keeping an eye on the federal courthouse in virginia where paul manafort is about to be sentenced potentially two decades in prison. lots to cover. stay with us here in the cnn "newsroom." if you have moderate to severe psoriasis
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white house about possible meddling in the at&t and time warner merger. that deal has since gone through and warner media is now the parent company of cnn. lauren fox is joining us now. what have you learned? >> house democrats on the judiciary committee want to know more about the president's interactions with his advisers when it comes to this merger. in a new letter they wrote, we write to underscore our serious concerns regarding allegations that president trump attempted to interfere with antitrust law enforcement. according to a recent report by jane marin, president trump instructed senior white house officials to direct the justice department's review of the acquisition of time warner. this comes as democrats have launched a broad set of investigations into the president, his advisers, everything from security clearance to any interactions that his campaign had with russia, but, of course, this issue is just an example of exactly how democrats plan to
use their new power. this is a story that came out just a few days ago and already democrats are preparing an investigation. >> it goes on, lauren fox, thank you. now to a bit of surprise in the 2020 race just a short time ago. we've learned that another democrat will not be running for president. ohio senator sherrod brown made that announcement today saying, i will keep calling out donald trump and his phony populism. i will keep fighting for all workers across the country and i will do everything i can to elect a democratic president and a democratic senate in 2020. the best place for me to make that fight is in the united states senate. john kasich is the former republican governor of ohio and is a cnn senior political commentator. governor, i imagine you know senator brown. what's your reaction to his decision? >> i'm surprised. i really felt that he was just re-elected, he could have a clean shot at this. i would guess -- i haven't talked to him about it. this is news to me, frankly. maybe he and his family took a
look at it and said it's going to be brutal and nasty and maybe they just didn't have the stomach for it. i thought that he had come off pretty well. people were saying, you know, he was liberal but yet he was viewed as a moderate. i expected him to go forward, trying to get into these presidential campaigns, it's not beanbag. it's a very tough effort and they probably assess it had and said, it's not worth it. >> we show the graphic who has said no to 2020 just this week. he becomes the fifth person. we've been talking about the infighting over the democratic party over this resolution to denounce anti-semitism or do they denounce hatred at large. 2020 contender senator kirsten gillibrand released a statement. i want to get your take on what she says. we must also call out the hypocrisy of the republican party in this instance. many republicans have taken offense to congresswoman's omar
remarks and condemned her in the harshest terms but said nothing when president trump defended white supremacists at charlottesville. does she have a point? >> not really. this is all primary politics. here's the amazing thing. the democratic party in the house, it's a mess. they can't figure out how to pass a resolution saying that we're not going to tolerate this kind of language. i'm not -- i'm an umpire, calling them like i see him. they took steve king off his committee because of his ridiculous comments. for them not to get to the floor and demand a vote and say, we will not tolerate this, it's almost showing a generational split inside the democratic party and just a week ago when they were passing some gun control legislation, i didn't have a chance to review it all, it sounded like it was pretty good on a motion of -- a technical motion to recommit where people wanted to protect themselves, the democrats, they couldn't get done what they wanted to get done.
they're stumbling and bumbling along and it reminds me a lot of what the republican circus was like with this, quote, freedom caucus. it just was a mess. you remember what john boehner said. i just couldn't take these people any more. it was crazy. what nancy pelosi has to do is she's got to make up her mind whether she's going to assert herself. there's an element of asserting yourself with also an element of listening, but when it comes to things like this, the party -- they've got to be clear about this and i think it's a mistake for them to waffle. >> do you find it interesting that president trump has condemned democrats on omar but continues to remain silent on steve king? >> a lot of republicans have condemned donald trump. don't get off the issue here. look, it's not acceptable some of the things he said and nobody's been more clear about that than i have been and there's been a lot of republicans that were outraged by his behavior and continue to be. however, that's not the issue now. the issue now is these anti-semitic messages that were not dreamt up by republicans.
these are democrats who have been outraged by this creeping anti-semitism. by the way, we're not only seeing it now out of a member of congress, but we're beginning to see it across the world. people are becoming more and more comfortable with this approach towards anti-semitism. it's just incredible here in the 21st century. stand against it wherever it is. >> let me move on to another stance some republicans are taking against the president when it comes to his emergency declaration on the border. we have new cnn reporting now that the white house is quietly trying to pressure democrats -- gop senators not to vote in favor of this resolution that would essentially terminate trump's national emergency. we already know these four republicans have said they plan to vote for the resolution to disapprove of the national emergency declaration. how do you see this playing out? will the party stay united? >> i'll tell you what i see, i see pretzel man or gumby.
you could move that thing around or pretzel man. let me wrap myself up so i can be all things to all people. this move by the president to declare this is a terrible precedent and republicans know it, and the leadership is trying to figure out how do they save face but they're probably not putting that much pressure on here for republicans not to vote it. it is going to pass. then it's going to be an issue of a override. precedence matter. the minute you do these kinds of things, it means that the next person, the next president is going to try to use this kind of authority. this would be a very, very big mistake. and beyond that, the president has an ability to get the money he wants for the wall without having to go this route. it's like it's stubborn. it's really bad. what i'm disappointed in -- >> although the president apparently doesn't have the ability to do it, not going this route -- >> he can -- no, he can get billions of dollars in money that's already set aside.
the fact of the matter is, this national security resolution was designed for a president to act quickly when there was a consensus that a president needed to act quickly. not only should they stop the president, but the congress ought to change this law so that presidents cannot do these power grabs. i was an executive. i liked to be a strong executive, but there are limits. what is disappointing to me are these republicans who are hiding and thinking about how many republicans have called them out. we're talking about chuck hagel, richard luger. there are a list, mickey edwards. this is ridiculous. just stand up and protect the constitution. that's what you need to do and the institution at the same time. >> we'll look for your op ed, governor kasich. thank you for being with us. >> all right. thank you. we are watching -- lots to cover this hour. two live events right now. lawmakers about to debate that antihate resolution on the house floor after the bitter back and
forth among democrats about the language it would include. plus judgment day for paul manafort, the former trump campaign chair will find out any moment now how long he will spend behind bars. don't go anywhere. for your heart... your joints... or your digestion... so why wouldn't you take something for the most important part of you... your brain. with an ingredient originally discovered in jellyfish, prevagen has been shown in clinical trials
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that vote comes amid the firestorm around minnesota's ilhan omar to face controversy over everything from their words to their policy proposals. there's the green new deal which critics including some democrats say is just unrealistic. there's also the battle over how to take on donald trump and whether impeachment should be on the table. michigan's rashida tlaib says yes and plans to file a resolution this month but some member of her party's leadership says that's premature. and new york's alexandria ocasio-cortez also feeling the heat on her tax proposal, proposing a tax of 0i7% on income over $10 million. co alexandria ocasio-cortez said this about omar to cnn. >> it's a learning experience and it's part of the fact that when we elect the most diverse democrats in congress that we
have in pretty much ever it means that we're -- we have new communities at the table, new conversations that need to be had and we have to learn how to have conversations differently every time. so i think it's just part of a learning process that we have as a country, frankly. >> cnn reporter michael warren is in washington for us. you wrote about the omar remarks and how this has really highlighted a rift among democrats. do you think it created a new rift or did it just expose what's always been there? >> i think it exposed a lot of what's already simmering under the surface within this democratic caucus which has been on a very, very united throughout the two months that they've had the majority. this wasn't a dispute about policy. it wasn't a dispute about do you support the green new deal or impeachment or more investigations. this was something that was focused on bigotry and whether or not the caucus was going to tolerate it or not. that divide is in many ways
generational. you heard a lot of older democratic members saying, why are we tweeting about this, why aren't we talking to each other one-on-one, but ultimately this resolution was an effort by speaker pelosi to try to simmer things down that clearly didn't work out as yesterday's delay on the vote demonstrates. >> a lot of people look at this on its face and say how hard it is to condemn anti-semitism? why all the back and forth? why all the debate? you also say that the democratic leadership failed to address this quickly enough allowing the issue to become even larger. tell us more about that. >> that's right. this was a moment where a lot of democratic leaders denounced omar's initial comments a couple of weeks ago and i think probably thought it was going to go away, when ilhan omar made additional comments that again relied on anti-semitic tropes suggesting that supporters of israel in congress were possibly
had allegiance to another country, israel, being that country, there was much more pressure from within the democratic caucus from jewish members who said these are anti-semitic tropes, we can't stand by. i think there was a tension there with the young progressive wing and also the congressional black caucus who said, why is ilhan omar a young woman of color being targeted here when republicans, particularly the president of the united states, have their own problems with bigotry? why aren't we denouncing those? it ended up being a huge mess for the speaker and nobody seems to be happy with this end result that they're about to vote on. >> all seven pages of this resolution. michael warren, thanks. we'll keep a watch as this develops. we also are following our other breaking news. a judge right now sentencing paul manafort. we'll take you live back to virginia when we come back. this is not a bed...
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from ukrainian political consulting. manafort was flat broke when trump tapped him to run his presidential bid. his trial revealed a high rolling access of excess. manafort had a clear shot at a lighter sentence but he threw it away. the special counsel says manafort lied and he lied and he lied some more to members of congress, to the fbi, to his own lawyers, the list goes on. i want to bring in cnn justice correspondent jessica schneider. jessica, tell us how we got here. >> it is a long winding road, ana. the most high profile defendant caught up in the special counsel's probe. you'll remember it was just three years ago, march 2016, when paul manafort was hired on to the trump campaign. he spearheaded the delegate fight and eventually got promoted to campaign chairman. now it was at the height of the campaign when paul manafort attended that trump tower
meeting in june of 2016. that meeting had led to lingering questions for mueller's team. it happened on june 9th, 2016, with paul manafort attending with jared kushner and donald trump jr. who had been promised he would get damaging information on hillary clinton from that russian lawyer who was there. of course, he didn't get it, but that meeting has been a focal point in the russian collusion investigation and that's part of the reason that fbi agents actually raided paul manafort's home on july 26th, 2017. they were there looking for documents connected to that trump tower meeting, plus anything related to tax and bank crimes and what the fbi agents found, well, it soon led to the first set of z-iemts for the special counsel on october 30th, 2017. those were indictments against both paul manafort and his former campaign deputy rick gates. now gates did eventually plead guilty and he is cooperating with the special counsel. manafort, meanwhile, is accused
of trying to tamper with witnesses after his indictment and that is exactly why he was charged with obstruction about eight months later on june 8th, 2018. manafort has been behind bars since that date. he's been in a virginia jail in solitary confinement and he went to jail to try actually in his virginia case in august. the jury there convicting him on eight counts of bank and tax fraud. there were 18 counts total but the jury deadlocked on the ten other counts that were eventually dismissed. then just a few weeks later in washington, d.c., paul manafort entered into a plea deal with prosecutors on those charges, but mueller's team eventually, they accused manafort of lying during his plea talks and the judge just a few weeks ago ruled that paul manafort did intentionally lie and that thereby voided this plea deal. that was the judge in washington, d.c. the judge in virginia today at this sentencing, he could take that into account as we await
paul manafort's sentencing but, ana, a lot has happened with paul manafort in the two years -- actually in the three years since he was campaign chairman and, of course, now we wait a sentencing. ana? >> jessica schneider, thanks for laying it out there. stay with us. paul manafort's sentence just ahead. don't go anywhere. to start ne. she can stay with you to finish her senior year. things will be tight but, we can make this work. ♪ now... grandpa, what about your dream car? this is my dream now. principal we can help you plan for that .
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probe. shimon prokupecz, what's going on inside? >> reporter: we're expected to get under way any moment now. paul manafort is in the can courtroom. he came in, in a wheelchair, wearing this green prison jump suit. he has a cane with him. his family, his wife are in the courtroom along with his friends. obviously his attorneys are there as well wooemplt just waiting to begin the sentencing hearing. as you said, he is potentially facing the rest of his life in prison at 69. any substantial sentence would essentially mean that he would spend the rest of his life in prison. >> this judge has been critical of mueller's team. could that play a role in the sentencing? >> reporter: certainly, it can. the judge, during the hearings,
was tough on prosecutors. at one point before the trial started, the judge was questioning prosecutor, wanting to know if they were trying to put pressure on paul manafort to cooperate, perhaps against the president, perhaps against others. at times, highly critical of the prosecution. at times, highly critical of the mueller team, wondering why they were doing this, whether or not they were trying to use some kind of pressure here to get paul manafort. this judge is known to be somewhat of a wild card, speak a lot, talk his mind a lot. we are expecting that this could go on for quite some time if he chooses to take a normal path we would expect with this judge where he speak his mind, offers his opinion a lot in these types of cases. we'll see. there's still a lot to happen here. obviously, the big thing is whether or not we hear from paul manafort, whether he asks the judge for more leniency here so he doesn't, perhaps, spend the rest of his life in prison. >> we'll be talking about two separate cases he will be
sentenced on, this one in the virginia courtroom, then there's the d.c. case in which manafort pled guilty to two counts following the trial where he was convicted on these eight count there is in virginia. so, today's sentencing is just about that. i'm curious, shimon, when he was accused of lying after he was convicted, does that come into play at this sentencing? >> reporter: the prosecutors have argued that in their sentencing memo. obviously this could consider, whether or not, as we said, paul manafort has been remorseful, whether or not he has shown any sort of that he's aware of what he did here was really bad, that he's sorry for what he did. it could play a role. when you look at the amount of prison time he's facing, up to
25 years, in the end it really doesn't matter. the sentencing on the d.c. case is expected to take place next wee week. >> as we wait to hear the judge's sentence on the former campaign chair, we're expecting to hear from the ex-attorney michael cohen, suing the trump organization in what looks to be the next big fight. it's a reminder of your struggles with psoriasis. but what if your psoriasis symptoms didn't follow you around? that's why there's ilumya. with just 2 doses, a majority of people were clear or almost clear. and over time, even more people were clear or almost clear. all with dosing 4 times a year... after 2 initial doses. plus, ilumya was shown to have similar risks of infections compared to placebo. don't use if you are allergic to ilumya or any of its ingredients. before starting treatment, your doctor should check for tuberculosis and infections.
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about it. the chairman of the house oversight committee just talked to cnn. here is what he said, when he was asked did cohen lie about pardon, he says i don't know. i read about these alleged inconsistencies. i'll take a look at it. the most important thing to me is i always protect own integrity and the integrity of our committee. definitely, not mr. jordan will, dictate how i go about running my committee. we will be methodical, transparent and, most importantly, we will hold the president accountable, and mr. cohen accountable. he said i told them that if he has lied, i will nail you to the cross. and i meant that. if he has lied, what we refer to doj, i can tell you, i've got to really look at it and make sure they are true in inconsistencies and outright lies and that it meets the threshold that even doj would investigate. so questions about whether michael cohen was truthful when he came back before congress in
that public hearing and developments that have played out since then. cohen is also now suing the trump organization. paul manafort is about to be sentenced by a virginia judge. stay with us here on cnn. "the lead" with jake tapper starts now. the man who helped steer donald trump toward the white house in court right now, about to learn how long he will be locked up. sentence and instant reaction, coming up. split on how to handle a freshman congresswoman's incendiary comments about israel, drawing attention to a generational divide in the democratic party. long rumored 2020 hopeful has made his decision, populist thought