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very good friday morning. i'm jim sciutto in washington. as the busy news day. president trump about to leave the white house to survey tornado damage in alabama. blamed for killing at least 23 last sunday, the president may talk to people on his way out. if so he's sure to be asked about the surprisingly short prison term to paul manafort. paul manafort getting less than four years for a series of financial crimes that under federal sentencing guidelines should have gotten him a minimum of 19 years in prison. but we begin this hour with breaking news we just learned moments ago that the economy added just $20,000 jobs last month. that is a fraction of the number the economists expected. big drop from last month and recent months. alison kosik joins me from new
york to break it down. what do we see here? really the numbers falling off a cliff from just last month. >> certainly did fall off a cliff and our eyes kind of fell out of our eyes when he sea this number. so yeah. it is surprising. in a tight labor market these are the kind of numbers you will begin to see. february a gain of 20,000 jobs. if you are wondering about december and january they were actually revised higher. but the reality is if you look at the past year the average number of jobs added month after month after month. 234,000 jobs over the year. so that is a red hot jobs market. it is certainly not sustainable especially when you look at where the unemployment rate is. today we learned it is at 3.8%. it fell from 4%. part of the running back we did see the up tick in january was because of the government shut down. a contributing factor. but we are seeing the labor market basically getting close to full employment. so it really is hard to keep
adding jobs to an economy that is near full employment. so where are these jobs going? and leaving? so first of all we saw business services in in addition to 42,000 jobs. healthcare 21,000. construction you are seeing fake a big hit. 31,000. that is part of the reason you are not seeing the increase in february total. part of the reason is because we're seeing a slow down in the housing market. dropoff in housing sales as well. it is a shock tore see only 20,000 added after seeing over 200 thousand on average but one report doesn't make a trend. example for you in 2017 in september we did see only 18,000 jobs added to the economy. sea of triple digit figures. so something to keep in mind? >> allison, thanks very much. let's talk more about this with steven moore. former trump campaign economic advisor and distinguished
fellow. -- former chairman of the kouns with economic advisor rsz under president obama. i want to give a chance to both of you to react. first stephen moore. 20,000 and i know there are other circumstances as allison explained there. does this give you any concern of a slowing economy. >> yeah it does. economy is slowing a little bit. no question about it. we have 4% growth in the summer and slowed to about 2.5% and now to a little less than 2%. so there is good news and bad news here. the bad news is this is way below the number of jobs we expected. the good news is, if you are a worker out there. allison put it very well. it is an extremely tight labor market. there are a lot of opportunities out there. i think wuch of the reasons jim we got this low number because literally employers are running out of workers to hire. one other quick statistic. there is a measure of unemployment that includes
people that could be working or can't find a full-time job. and that unemployment rate austin fell to the lowest level i think 20 years. so it is good -- by the way wages are up too. tight labor market now. >> but you heard that there austin. steven saying looks like the economy may be slow. do you agree? >> for sure the economy is slowing. its been throwing since we had one very good quarter last year at the beginning and since then its just inched its way down from the 4s to the 3s, to the 2s. now the 1s. it is not a surprise that the job market would start allowing as the economy slows down. i don't think we expected this much. 20,000 just abysmal. let's hope that is a blip. if we get multiple months like that the unemployment rate is going to shoot back up and people are definitely going to be talk about recession. >> this has enormous potential
political implications affect on the 2020 race. the economic message one of president trump's primary messages in terms of selling himself for a second term. but we also had hamsore troubling news for president trump in academic terms. the largest trade deficit in u.s. history. despite the tariff, ongoing trade war with china. the wildest on record, $891 billion. i thought donald trump was going to lower the trade deft. >> there is now 7 million more jobs to gunshot -- >> -- my feeling is the -- aurns may or may not agree but the trade deficit tends to go up when the economy is strong. they go to walmart, home depot,
amazon and guy in a lot of things. a lot are foreign profits. every time we have a hot economy the deficit goes up. i juice used to tell the president. if all the tax cuts and regulations cause a booming economy we're not going to see a lower devastaficit. so i'm not concerned. >> -- buy more and -- >> -- nay need dollars to do that. >> austin goolsbee as you know this is a president who promised to fix that with his tough trade talk. >> i agree. what steve moore said is a direct contradiction of what president trump has been saying since he's been there. as you know on this very network when trump started saying it all of the informed people said, a, you shouldn't be using the trade deficit as a measure, as a scoreboard of where we're doing well or doing badly. and the policies that you are about to enact, the tariffs on our allies and on china and a
bunch of countries of the world and $2 trillion tax cuts that are not paid for. those are going make the trade deficit go up. and the administration said no it won't. he's gonna get rid of it. so now that the trade deficit is going up. i don't have any patience for the kmings to try to rashlds and say oh no. what we meant is the opposite. he was wrong then and he's wrong now. >> let me just respond to that. look we're on the cups it looks like of a trade deal with china which could be a block buster trade deal where china agrees to lower their tariffs against u.s. goods which is something we've waited a long time to happen. they have agreed to buy 50 to a $100 billion more of agricultural products some of it is good news on the trade front. >> there is a school of thought even with the administration that the direction of the trade deal that the two sides are
going on is far below what they want, what the president wants. and it ends up being just a promise to buy more soybeans etc. but no essential change to real access to. >> they are going to lower that you are terms. >> well that is any impression. we haven't seen anything. and whatever they sign would have to be passed by congress before it would actually be real. but what we've seen from the administration with korea, with europe and with nafta are signing deals that are extremely incremental at best. mostly just to get it off the table so markets don't panic that we're going to get into an escalating trade war. i'm fine with that every day without a trade war is good. >> this is another big picture. the u.s. budget deficit. up 77% in the last fiscal year. austin and then stephen before we go. does this put to rest once and for all the conservative argument that lowering taxes raises revenues.
>> of course it should put that to rest. of course. that's been disproven i don't know how many times. we didn't need to refined out this time that tax cuts for the highest income people and big -- >> -- >> this is the biggest increase in the deficit ever outside of recession and war. >> -- a lot harder thannous but i'll say. this, you know, maybe we're not getting the big revenue growth but the economy is going to be 6 trillion dollars larger as a result of the tax cut over the next decade. that is a big number. >> stephen and austin. we're going continue this conversation. let's have you back soon. thanks both of you the mid frorng. >> to the white house now where moments president trump will depart on his way to mar-a-lago for some fundsers. joe johns is there. the president and first laid will be touring tornado damage from this tornado this past weekend. do we know who they are going to
be mealing with on the ground? >> reporter: we have some idea. emergency responders, management. but senator richard selby having a lot to do with the way all money is spent in washington d.c. we're told he'll be flying to alabama with the president and first lady and and sounds like it is going to be a bit of a bipartisan thing. and cnn reporting also that doug jones the junior senator from alabama who's a democrat will also be meeting with the president there. we also expect the governor of alabama kay ivy to be meeting with the president. important say that kay ivy, actually in front of cameras couple days ago mentioned that she had asked the president for expedited work on an application
for fema to help. so there's been some question as to whether alabama's been getting preferential treatment. the president himself tweeted they were going to get a plus treatment but talking to fema folks, they say this is the regular course of business. >> little different from history than california after the wild fires remember talk about taking funds await the time. thanks very much. the president's former campaign chairman paul manafort was sentenced to less than four years in prison. experts say people get for a harsher sentences for doing farless. we'll break it down. and the house votes an on anti-hate resolution. why two dozen republicans oppose that resolution. and most of venezuela is now in darkness. its been hours and hours since a black out there began. blaming president mid roe what's going to be next for this troubled country? [indistinct conversation]
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trump commentating for the first time on his former campaign chairman paul manafort's sentence for tax evasion and bank fraud. this has many people slamming the judges decision to give manafort just 47 months in prison. far below the 19-25 years government sentencing guidelines recommend. this after manafort repeatedly lied to investigators all while he was supposed to be cooperating as part of a plea deal and hid millions in income overseas to avoid taxes like you and i pay. i was in the courtroom in the time when as you will rebelis brated the prosecutors at times for things he later apologized for and let the defense attorneys get away with things they might not normally. so this is not the first time she's struck in such a way to you could argue help manafort's case a bit. >> exactly. judge ellis stressed he had to abide by this parity in
sentencing and said the fact that paul manafort was a first time offender violating these tax codes, committing these tax and bank crimes. judge ellis said i have to follow what has been done previously here. and that is sort of this pushback to critics who say this sentence was too lenient. in court manafort's attorneys put forth examples of people who had stolen much more from the government but got much less. >> and ten of millions and d dot -- >> exactly. one woman took 47 million and put it overseas bank account and received, i'm not joking here. five seconds in probation. a very odd sentence. >> why are the sentencing guidelines so out of whack then. >> that is exactly what judge else was criticizing. the fact that these were out of whack and his attempt to signed sort of find the balance there and only giving 47 month, 3.9 years. so what does it come down to? manafort is sentenced to 47
months in prison. 3.9 years. but they will shave off the nine month he's already been in solitary confinement in virginia. manafort will also be hit financially. he could pay restitution between 6 million and 25 million dollars that. will go to the government. he'll also be find $50,000. that will be his punitive damage. his punitive fine. and then he'll have three years supervised release following prison time. then there is round two on wednesday in washington d.c. and judge jackson has been don stently tougher on paul manafort perhaps than judge ellis. she's the one who put him in the alexandra jail for the past nine months for witness tampering charges. >> -- opposes a sentence that is concurrent, served at the same time or consecutive. >> exactly. and that sentence could be up to 10 years. so when you combine that, if she does it consecutively it could be more than a decade for paul manafort who does turn 70 on
april 1st. so it could be still a substantial sentence but of course people looking at yesterday's sentence saying wait a minute here. prosecutors are pushing for up to 2'4" years. e got less than 4. >> judges have a lot of power. jessica, thanks very much. let's discuss now with el le, former state andle from prosecutor. you wrote calling this ab injustice. make your case for that and i then i want to get to --. but first why is this an injustice in your view? >> i've seen a lot of federal sentences over the years and i don't stun easily but i found this one to be stunning. i agree first that the guidelines range of 19-24 years would have been excessive. i think for a lot of the reasons jessica outlined. first time offender. non violent offenses. someone with no prior history. so 19 years i think would have been outrageous. but to go 15 years below the
bottom of the guideline is really an extraordinary downward departure. and two things jump out about this. first of all, if you were to do a textbook for law students how to flout the criminal justice system you couldn't do any better than to trace exactly what paul manafort has done here. lied to the fbi. lied to mueller. violatedes. got remanded. showed no remorse at sentencing. did not accept responsibility. it is unbelievable to almost reward that with a massive downward departure. the other thing hard to ignore is the disparity. and the manafort sentencing is bringing attention to this. in the federal system your typical first time low level non violent drug offend ler get more time than this. manafort really got a gift here and it is hard to understand what the judge was thinking. >> so what about what jessica was describe agonizing the judge's explanation here saying that okay, fine. but if you look at previous
convict here of similar crimes. stole a lot more money got a lot less time, does the judge not have to look at those similar cases as well in making his decision. >> they do have to ma look at comparable decision bus there is such a huge case law out there. i will say this. there are things about this case that i think separate them from the cases that the judge was relying on. most of those cases the judge was looking at involved acceptance of responsibility. which under the guidelines lead to a several year reduction. here not only do we have acceptance of responsibility. we have obstruction of justice which is supposed to move you up the line. i think the judge obscured or overlooked some of the distinguishing factors about this case. >> lying to prosecutors. even some allegations of witness tampering in the midst of it all. again, to speak to cases and this is part of the outrage here, is this question about a
two tiered justice system. that rich people have one law and others do not. our colleague laura coates gave an example that a judge ellis example. she mentioned frederick turner. 37, mandatory minimum 40 years in prison. those are guidelines for dealing meth and the judge said at the time i chafe a bit at that but i follow the law. it is wrong but not immoral. so he had issues with the sentencing guidelines there and followed them. he has issues with the sentencing guidelines here for a rich white man and does not. >> yeah i think laura put it perfectly. it is hard to ignore the reality here. you have paul manafort who is rich, white, male, quasicelebrity i guess of sorts. and the -- >> powerful friends. >> yeah. and the kind of defendant whose suffer under the system are usually none of those things. and i think it also outlines disparates within the laws and sentencing guidelines. it is a real issue.
the first step back i months ago takes some steps, towards correcting that. but if there could be a silver lining sthat could draw attention to some of the inherent inequities that exist in the federal sentencing system. >> can the next judge in the d.c. case which is a separate case factor this sentencing decision in? legally? and say well, sounds like that was below the bar. i therefore have cause to impose a sentence that is at least in line with the guidelines. >> technically she's not supposed to do that. i do not think you will see judge jackson saying that. in fact you may see judge jackson saying the opposite. i'm not taking into account his other sentence and whether i feel that was just or unjust and therefore only look at the case in front of me in washington d.c. i sentence him to x. i think he's human. she's a very sharp judge. she's proven herself to be in charge and no nonsense but he's
a human being. she can't not approximate aware. and -- not be aware. i think she will add time on. whether concurrent or consecutive. i do think we'll see time added on. i don't think ten years consecutive. >> and the president's former campaign chairman going jail for years for crimes. meanwhile michael cohen is suing the trump organization. imagine that. claiming that it owes him money for unpaid legal bills relating to his work for the firm. cnn reporter with me now. president trump sued or promised to sue many folks through the years. now he's on the other side of it. >> right. michael cohen a long time employee is now turning side asks turning tables again. in this allegation he's alleging he's owed more than 1.9 million dollars in legal fees and
additional 1.9 million colors he has to pay in forfeit your and fines to his criminal conviction. cohen is saying he had an arrangement beginning from july 2017 to cover his legal fees during the course of multiple investigations, including the investigations on the hill by the congress, the investigations by the special council's office. cohen alleges that once he signalled that he was going to start cooperating with investigators at the u.s. attorneys office in manhattan and the special council's office that the trump organization cut him off and stopped paying his legal fees. the lawsuit doesn't include any details about this particular indemnification agreement. but this is what cohen is alleging. the trump organization says they are coming out strong. they are going fight it. the statement from one of their attorneys said that the trump organization doesn't owe michael kohn one penny of legal fees. this is a desperate money grab by a desperate convicted felon. people close to the trump organization also say a lot of
michael cohen's legal problems come from criminal activities he did and admitted to doing. back fraud, tax fraud that occurred outside of his employment with the trump organization. so we night see this end up in litigation here jim. >> -- desperate felon who was enemployed by them for more than ten years. should note that. -- could that party division become a problem for 2020? at fidelity, we help you prepare for the unexpected with retirement planning and advice for what you need today
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joining me now. congresswoman great to have you. thanks for taking the time. >> good morning. thank you for having me. >> let me ask first about the vote here. there was tremendous debate inside the party about this. final resolution condemn all foms of hate. and i think a lot of viewers understand that. but of course the spark for this were the comments by congresswoman ilhan omar. and why was her name or any specific mention of those comments left out? >> i think that it is important for us to stand together in unity. and that's what we did yesterday when we voted for that resolution. we are standing against all forms of hate. anti-semitism, islam o phobia, xenophobia. i don't think we need to target any individual. i think that as a caucus we need to stand united and you saw what happened yesterday. all of us voted for this
resolution. and it is just troubling when i saw some of the members in the other side that voted against it. >> of course one of the members who did was steve king who, has his own issues with bigoted comments. what is there explanation? and what is your message to the republican whose voted no on this anti-hate resolution. >> i think whew we've seen from the white house and administration is they have used hateful words to attack people like myself, immigrant, other people of color. and we need to show the american people that our words matter that. we are held to a higher standard. and my suggestion is for them to understand that we are sending a mixed message. when you are voting against a resolution that is clearly standing against hate. i can't speak for any of them that voted against it. but i do worry that it continues to exasperate the problem we have coming from this white house and the president which is to use hateful words against
people like myself. >> on another issue for the democratic party. you have a debate over economic policy. particularly the extraelection coming up. one of 40 who flipped the seat from red to blue. and folks like you yourself who flip the districts are pretty moderate and the party made a deliberate decision to run moderate candidates with moderate positions. are you concerned that as some of the party pull the party to the left. including people from safe democratic, safe blue districts that that is a danger for the party. not just in the house but for the presidency in 2020? >> i'm not going lie to you. i do think that we can have extremes on either side. i don't think that is what the american people want. what they are looking for is for government to work and it is why today we are voting on a
significant piece of legislation the "for the people" act, hr 1, which is restoring the faith in our democracy. and i want -- i think we all agree that we want the things some of the progressives are bringing up ideas we all support which is being very bold and aggressive and tackling issues that affect climate. being bold and aggressive lowering healthcare costs but it is a matter of finding common ground. i do think we've only been here about sixty days and there are some learning curve farce lot of us. >> you said extremes. extremes on both side. are you concerned there are extremes? extremists, if you want to use that term in your own party pulling the party too far to the left? >> well i'm not saying that they are right now. but words matter. and sometimes those words that are being used could be seen as an extreme position on an issue. i think we as americans, you know, we're 365 million
american. we all come from different backgrounds. it is one of the great things about my party. we have a huge --. healthy debate is good. we need to discussion the issues but we need to restore faith in the government and it is important for us to be united. i think that resolution showed that yesterday. we are united. yes we do have differences. we come from different backgrounds. different districts. different experiences. i was born in ecuador. i'm an immigrant. i bring a completely different perspective as it relates, for example, to venezuela. so it is okay to have these healthy debates. i do feel optimistic. that as we have these conversations i see people understanding where we are all coming from and i can tell you from my own personal experience talk about venezuela to my caucus. bringing that perspective. >> i do want to ask you about venezuela. john bolton said the last 24 hours that all options are on the table. you have heard the president speak publicly about military options there. i wonder if it is your concern
that the policy of the u.s. and i know you have a very strong position against the maduro government but is it the policy of the u.s. now regime change in venezuela? and do you support that? >> look. i have to tell you. and i'll start from the beginning which is my statement. maduro is an illegitimate regime. we need to support the international organizations have supported g support supported guaido as the interim president. i have very good friends that have had to leave venezuela. i have some family members that live in venezuela. and what we need to do is put a lot of pressure on this regime. i oppose military intervention and our caucus opposes it. we just had a conversation about that couple of days ago but what we do support is humanitarian aid.
individualized sanctions, asking the united nationss to work very closely with the american government to put pressure on the maduro regime. so we are watching closely and things can change in one minute to the next but the momentum is now to put the pressure now on the regime. >> congresswoman, appreciate having you on the show. hanks so much. look forward to welcoming you back. >> thank you, jim. >> five years ago. today. mh 370 left malaysia for china. there is still no sign of the plane or its passengers? could something like this happen again? it is still a question. we'll have more. an. -it's our confident forever plan. -welcome to our complete freedom plan. -it's all possible with a cfp professional. ♪ -find your certified financial planner™ professional at letsmakeaplan.org.
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blackout in caracas and then throughout the country. nationwide schools and businesses are closed. secretary of state mike pompeo is blaming the embattled president nicolas maduro for the outage. saying no food, no medicine. now no power. next no maduro. live in caracas. of course daytime there. this blanket the latest hardship for venezuelans. you get a sense of a country falling apart there. basic necessities not available. >> reporter: and it doesn't get more basic than electricity. hospitals, schools, people's homes without electricity and largely without water. just a surreal scene this morning to see thousands of people walking to work because the metro was broken. of course without electricity you can't gas up your car. public transportation is falling apart. so really is a sense of a country falling apart. especially when the government
last night nearly 18 hours ago when the crisis first began they said they would have it on very soon. that was just another broken promise though, jim. and the government here is of course as they always do blaming the united states saying it was an active sabotage. but people we talked to that know something about the electrical grid here say it is not possible here. very old, poorly maintained grid. and for years people have been warning this could happen. and now apparently it has. and venezuelans simply want to know when the power will come back on. and no word yet from the government when that will take place. >> interesting how it feeds the narratives and conspiracy theories about what the u.s. is up to there. thanks very much. patrick. it was five years ago today that malaysian airlines flight 370 disappeared. nearly 26 countries joined in the search and rescue mission.
crews found nothing in the end. the search was called off in january 2017 but now the malaysian government is telling families that it will continue the search. cnn aviation correspondent richard quest is following these developments. of course you were on top of this throughout the months following the disappearance five years ago. is there any hope that if they do keep the search they are going find anything? do they know where to search? >> they do and area of serging gets ever narrower. the only disappointing part is is that last year there was a private centusearch by a privat company and that was no find no fee basis but the malaysian government de didn't idn't rene that came to an end. and there are people that want to search and they need permission and so far that's been lacking. there are geo politics involved here in the highest levels and
until those are solved, then unlikely it will get another search under way. >> i remember when you and i were talk about this five years ago, a frequent question was, listen, i lose my iphone. i can find that. why don't planes have basic systems. they are giant expensive pieces of technology with a lot of lives on board. is that going to change. >> it has already changed. new rules came in at the international level that mandated the so called reporting time. and many airlines like emirates and others went much tighter, reporting every few minutes and now there is even new technology that allows satellite reporting every couple of seconds or even twice a second in one case. but to the fundamental point, why don't we have realtime tracking? why aren't the satellites constantly watching and reporting like radar? it is simply too expensive.
the data band width simple isn't there. so you do what's next. which is the planes report as often as they can and that can be extrapolated into exactly where the plane is at any given moment. >> help me understand that. i know there is always this rush to find the black boxes as we call them. though they are orange. in the midst of this. -- sounds probably oversimplistic but if i could have wifi on the plane, why isn't the plane constantly sending a stream of information that is important, can help folks understand what's happening not only with the plane but might have caused an accident. why isn't that happening today. >> it is. they are working on it even as we speak. remember you can't just do one thing for one airline. off the set regulatory standards that everybody is going follow and it will ensure it works and will be robust. that is the reasons why its taken so long. two things with black boxes. one ejectable black boxes.
working an a system why where it jekts from a plane the moment it sense something is wrong. and then constant data streaming. that is likely and a lot more in the future. >> thanks very much. reminder tonight on the cnn. a special look at the past five years, van shd. the mystery of mh370. and breaking news. the tech giants facebook, google and others are simply too big says little warn. she wants to break then up. but what i do count on, is staying happy and healthy. so, i add protein, vitamins and minerals to my diet with boost®. boost® high protein nutritional drink has 20 grams of protein, along with 26 essential vitamins and minerals your body needs. all with guaranteed great taste. the upside- i'm just getting started.
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nchlthsds 9sds nchlg unwind text mergers talking about urgeers like amazon and whole foods. that is a big second part of elizabeth warren's tech policy proposal that is out. the political implications of course are going to be huge as you noted. we are going to see folks in silicon valley, executives, investors not be very happy about this. on the other hand, we are going to see progressive activists and leaders, consumer advocates probably be very happy about this because this is an issue that they have been talking about for a while. as you noted, jim, we are going to see elizabeth warren here in
new york later today. we are told that she is going to talk about this there in the rally and significant too because remember long island city is where we saw amazon having to pull out of their plan to build a second headquarters there when they face so much back lash. it just all goes to show that this is probably going to be a very big issue heading into the 2020 election. >> and raises the question how she proposes to do it. is she talking about legislation, court orders here? something i know we will continue to follow. this is the president. he spoke a short time ago to reporters on his departure for alabama and mar-a-lago. >> we are seeing wages rise more than we have at anytime for a long, long time. wages are going up. i talked about it during the
campaign. i'm happy about that. the economy is very, very strong. if you look at the stock market over the last few months, it's been great. certainly, since my election it is up getting close to 50%, the stock market. so we are obviously very happy with that. we will i think as soon as these trade deals are done if they get done and we are working with china, i think you will see a very big spike. a lot of people are waiting to see what happens with the china deal. mexico/canada is done. we will be submitting to congress very shortly. that's a great deal for the united states. so we're very happy about that. i am now going to alabama. some of you are joining me. i look forward to it. i'll be meeting with governor. we are stopping there. then we are going to florida. we are going to do a lot of
work. we'll be working very hard. i feel very badly for paul manafort. i think it has been a very tough time for him. both his lawyer, a highly respected man and a highly respected judge said there was no collusion with russia. this had nothing to do with collusi collusion. there was no collusion. i don't dolecollude with russia his lawyer went out of his way to make a statement last night, no collusion are wurussia. there was absolutely none. the judge for whatever reason, i was very honored by it, also made the statement that this had nothing to do with collusion with russia. so keep it going. keep the hoax going. it's just a hoax.
senator burr said this. if you look at devon nunez, they said there is no collusion. and guess what, there is none. it's a step. i think you will probably find out it averages out. the unemployment rate just went lower. we are down now to 3.8%. i think the big news really was that wages went up and that's great for the american worker. i don't know if people ever expected to see it. [ inaudible question ] >> we will do very well either way with or without a deal if you are telling me something that i have not heard.
sure, i'm confident. if we don't make a very good deal for our country y wouldn't make the deal. if this isn't a great deal, i won't make a deal. the only one discussing it is you. i haven't discussed it. i know that in watching and seeing you folks at night that michael cohen lied about the pardon. it was a stone cold lie. he has lied about a lot of things. when he lied about the pardon, that was really a lie. his lawyers said they went to my lawyers and asked for pardons. i can go a step above that, but i won't do it now. why what? >>. [ inaudible question ]
>> i had a bad lawyer. that happens. you're competing with a helicopt helicopter. >>. [ inaudible question ] >> i think it is going very well. we are doing a great job. we are apprehending record numbers of people. 75,000 over the last short period of time. that's a lot of work. and with a wall we wouldn't have to do it. i think we are doing fine in congress. they understand it's an emergency. [ inaudible question ] >> well, time will tell. i have a feeling that our relationship with north korea, kim jong-un and myself, i think it is a very good one. i think it remains good.
i would be surprised in a negative way if he did anything that was not per our understanding. but we'll see what happens. look, when i came in under the obama administration north korea was a disaster. you were going to war, whether you know it or not. there was no talking. there was testing. we didn't have our people back. we didn't have our great hostages back. now, we are getting the remains. we are doing a lot of things now. this was a disaster. i inherited a mess. it is straightening out a lot. we are doing very well there. i inherited a mess with north korea and right now you have no testing. you have no nothing. let's see what happens. but i would be very disappointed if i saw