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this is beyond wifi, this is xfi. simple. easy. awesome. xfinity, the future of awesome. hi, i'm ana cabrera in for brooke baldwin. thanks for being with us on this friday. we're staying on top of several breaking stories swirling around the trump white house this morning. bill shine is out. more on that in just a moment. shine's departure comes as the president is sending a message out of his own about his former fixer michael cohen blasting him for comments cohen made to congress last week. >> i have never asked for nor would i accept a pardon from
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president trump. >> in a tweet today the president called cohen a liar, saying he directly asked trump for a pardon, but the president had a kinder, gentler response to paul manafort, his former campaign chairman convicted on several counts and now sentenced by a judge to 47 months in prison for financial crimes. that sentence was far shorter the 19 to 25 years recommended by robert mueller's team. the news sparked sharp criticism throughout the legal and political world. the president, however, praised the decision. >> i feel very badly for paul manafort. i think it's been a very, very tough time for him, but if you notice, both his lawyer, a highly respected man and a very highly respected judge, the judge, said there was no collusion with russia. this had nothing to do with collusion. there was no collusion. it's a collusion hoax. i don't collude with russia.
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>> just to be clear, despite what you just heard the judge in this case did not say there was no collusion only that it did not pertain to the charges in this particular case. asha rangappa is a national security analyst. first, let me start with the president of the united states saying point-blank today michael cohen directly asked for a pardon. what is mueller now do with this? could his boost his case that the president needs to be interviewed? >> mueller would definitely be looking in to that conversation and i think it's important here to remember the difference between their relative positions. people petition, you know, the white house for pardons. that's what people do. they ask for mercy or leniency. that isn't running afoul of any kind of law or constitutional provisions. the question is -- what it trump say on the other side? did he dangle it in any way? did he use it as an enticement
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because he is the president and though he has broad pardon power he cannot use it as a way to entice someone to behave in a particular way and we know he may have done this with other people in the mueller probe like paul manafort and so that would definitely be of interest to mueller in his investigation. >> then we're looking on twitter, this initial tweet from the president sparking michael cohen's response, saying, this is just another set of lies by the president. he brings up international women's day and stormy daniels and karen mcdougal. what's your reaction to the president and his former lawyer arguing over who's lying on twitter? >> yeah. this just continues to be strange to me that president trump will actually -- like say things on twitter as there's an ongoing investigation. michael cohen is going to jail for lying. he knows that mueller has -- if he has lied again, then he's
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going to get nailed for it and he will pay the consequences, and i think that he's quite aware of that. having trump continue to divulge information like the fact that they had a discussion about pardons, for example, is really not helping him and i think that he would be wise as we've said for the last two years to simply not tweet about ongoing investigations. >> he's tweeting and he's talking about ongoing investigations, one that has now come to a close and that is paul manafort in front of virginia's courtroom. paul manafort sentenced now. the judge sentencing him to about four years in prison. what's your big takeaway from the outcome of this case? >> i think like most people who are watching this and expecting a much higher sentence i'm quite astonished at the low sentence considering exactly what manafort pleaded guilty to which
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were pretty significant financial crimes and defrauding, you know, the treasury out of millions of tax money and defrauding banks. what i think is happening here also, though, is an appeal for a pardon. we were just talking about that. he did not express any remorse. he's signaling to the president that he is continuing to stay loyal and if we look at the pattern of pardon that the president has issued, he tends to pardon crimes for which he himself might be on the hook, so he pardons scooter libby who was convicted of obstruction of justice, he pardoned dinesh da souza who was convicted of campaign finance violations and now the southern district may be looking into his finances and i wouldn't be surprised if there's some sort of, you know, self-exoneration through manafort by potentially pardoning him after he is sentenced next week. >> asha rangappa, always good to have your take.
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jamie raskin is a member of the oversight committee where michael cohen gave that explosive testimony in public. he's on capitol hill now, the president saying that michael cohen asked him personally for a pardon. sir, what do you do with this? >> well, one can only regard with some amazement the president's casual disclosure that he's been talking to people about pardons in this process and certainly it piques our curiosity. of course, before donald trump the way that people would approach a president about a pardon was through the office of the pardon attorney in the department of justice where there was a whole process for a written submission and, you know, filing of questions and answers and so on. >> right. >> the president has bypassed that and he deals it out like a political favor like we saw in the case of dinesh da souza --
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>> which he has the power to do, i'm curious, who do you believe, cohen or the president? >> well, you know, the president i think has told over 8,500 lies, that was a week ago. so it might be up over 9,000 now. i don't know. for him it's just routine. michael cohen has pleaded guilty to lying for the president before congress and we're still trying to get to the bottom of exactly how that particular lie about the president's involvement in the moscow tower project came about and we will get to the bottom of that, but at this point michael cohen has no incentive to lie and all of his testimony before our committee was coherent and consistent and, you know, as i said then and i'll say again, they're not mad at michael cohen because he lied for the president. they're mad at michael cohen because he stopped lying for the
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president. >> i hear what you're saying, but now there is a question about whether cohen was completely truthful in front of your committee the second time around when he talked about this issue of the pardon. do you think the president should be called before your committee to testify as a witness now on this issue? >> well, there are obviously a multiple issues. we'd love to hear from the president about it and i'll leave that to chairman cummins and on chairman nadler -- >> if it were up to you, would you call the president? >> let me make one point that causes me real doubt about the president's story right now. the president is obviously an extremely close contact with the republicans in congress and had suggested a whole line of questions for them to pose to michael cohen when he came there. it seems to me if it were true that michael cohen had gone to president trump to ask for a pardon before that testimony at some point or before he's pleading guilty, the president
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would have let the republicans know so they could have asked about it. it does seem one of these whimsical last minute presidential inventions. >> i know you're committee has attempted to get documents about security clearances at the white house. have you gotten your hands on any documents yet? >> i have not seen any yet, but this is something of intense concern to the oversight committee, to the judiciary committee and also i know to the intelligence committee, indeed to every member of congress because the security clearance process is serious business and yet what we've heard is that it's been completely trampled by president trump. apparently the officials who were in charge of reviewing jared kushner's application for security clearance rejected it and then the president overrode them repeatedly and they were so concerned about that that they insisted on documenting every step along the way. we are trying to get our hands on those documents to figure out what exactly happened and why. >> but you're saying you haven't
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seen any of those documents just yet, correct? >> i have not. there were questions raised about jared kushner's relationships to different foreign governments including saudi arabia. >> right. i just want to clarify that issue. i have to ask, of course, about the president saying this about that antihate resolution you all passed in the house yesterday. watch. >> i thought yesterday's vote by the house was disgraceful because it's become the -- the democrats have become an anti-israel party. they've been an anti-jewish party and i thought that vote was a disgrace -- >> you are one of the lead coauthors on that resolution, what's your response to the president? >> it's obviously absurd what the president just said. the statement was one denouncing anti-semitism and racism and anti-islamic bigotry. i wish the president would
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support it. of course, we tried to bring a resolution after the disgraceful events that took place in charlottesville. the republicans wouldn't bring it to the floor and the president, of course, equivocated on which side he favored there saying there were very good people on both sides. the president is lucky that he escaped being named in that resolution because a lot of people wanted to add the last tv campaign ad he ran in the presidential campaign in 2016 which identified three jewish people, janet yellen and lloyd blank fine and george soros basically the enemies of the american people and this was denounced by the antidefamation league and was widely seen as the anti-semitic ad in the history of politics. the president should really be careful about entering into this whole terrain and one can only regard with astonishment the
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fact that he's attacking a resolution which was bipartisan in nature which the vast majority of members of congress voted for denouncing racism and bigotry. >> but 23 republicans did vote against the resolution and their reasoning is that it was too watered down, didn't call out a representative omar by name. again, you are one of the lead coauthors, why didn't you call out omar by name? >> we didn't call out omar by name, we didn't call out donald trump by name, despite his statements about charlottesville, despite that tv ad which still has not been denounced by members of his own party which targeted jewish americans for a charge of essentially dual loyalty or opposition to the american people. the president should apologize for that now that he's entered into a debate about anti-semitism. >> why not name omar given that this spurred this? >> we didn't name donald trump and we didn't name representative omar and we didn't name a number of other
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individuals. we could have named, why, because the issues are too serious for the usual finger pointing and point scoring that takes place in american politics today. we wanted to lift this up to a level of principle and values and it was a magnificent statement of values that we as the congress of the united states, we deplore and we oppose in every way and we reject anti-semitism, we reject racism and we reject attacks on the muslim community as well. we stand together as americans e pluribus unum, for many, one. the fact that the president would set himself against that statement which the vast majority of republicans voted for is just remarkable to me. >> congressman raskin, thank you for being with us. >> thank you. surprise news from the white house today. bill shine is at. word is the president was starting to lose enthusiasm for his communications director, so what went wrong for the former "fox news" executive? we're also following
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or more on car insurance. another communications director has left his post at the white house. bill shine, the former "fox news" executive says he is joining the president's 2020 election campaign, but a source tells cnn the president had begun to sour on shine questioning his judgment on a number of issues in recent months. with us now to discuss, bill
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carter -- i almost called you bill shine and arlen. there was a report about "fox news" and the white house working hand in hand. do you buy the timing that this is just about the campaign? >> i think -- a lot of stuff in that story was pretty well-known so i don't know if it necessarily was a big factor. people knew these guys. it was not a good relationship. what's interesting in the story that they emphasized the fact that shine was still getting paid from "fox news" getting $7 million. i can see that bothering trump a little bit. i can see that being maybe a last straw for him but he was on the outs and this was going to happen any way i'm pretty sure. >> you had an inkling that he and trump were getting along. >> trump felt as he's felt about all these communications director and he's had five of
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them, this is not a job you take if you want long-term employment. he was unhappy that he's not getting good press. he blames the communications director even though makes bad headlines that wind up getting bad press. he wants to know why the communications director can't control that. >> we never really saw bill shine. he didn't put himself in front of the camera. oliver, what did he do? >> when he came in there was a narrative that he might be the one that rein in trump's messaging and the white house messaging, get it under control. it's unclear what he was actually doing and it seems like trump sour because he wasn't getting a positive press coverage. his job at the end of the day became booking people on "fox news." maybe foreshadowing that he left the white house today because he wasn't even in vietnam during this summit. >> you bumped into him there. >> i said why aren't you at
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vietnam. that seems to be where the top communications official would be. he didn't answer the question. he declined to provide a real answer. his lasting legacy, ana, he was responsible really for getting rid of the daily briefing. the white house during his tenure battled with cnn over access to the white house there. that is is going to be his enduring legacy, shunning off access. >> we believe the president is his own best message. who could replace shine? >> it doesn't matter. hope hicks he liked and people he didn't get along with like shine. it doesn't matter. he feels like he could do it better. if the press isn't g the media's not saying -- i'll go out there and speak. i can control this and he's done it his whole life. before he got to the white house, he was always in the press in new york. >> he'd call in and pretend to be somebody else. >> he managed his own image
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and -- he thinks nobody does it better than him. he's probably right because he's done it very well and look where it's gotten him. he doesn't take direction, let's face it. that's not what he does. >> bill carter, oliver darcy, good to have you with us. we have brand-new questions today about jared kushner's real estate dealings. last summer his property at 666 5th avenue got a much needed infusion of cash, but where did it come from? i'll talk about what the house democrats are doing to find out. plus -- outrage erupts over paul manafort's sentence showing disparity in america's justice system.
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we have this video just in to cnn. president trump and first lady melania paying tribute to victims of the tornados in alabama that struck this community earlier this week. the president and first lady have spent the last couple of hours there on the ground in lee county. to get updates on the damage and visit with survivors. you can see them honoring the 23 people who died ranging in age from 6 to 89 years old. president trump on his way there talked about the manafort sentencing, saying he feels very badly for his former campaign chairman paul manafort after a federal judge sentenced him to nearly four years in prison. a sentence that drastically fell short of expectations and prosecutors' recommendations. prosecutors said manafort should serve up to 25 years in prison, seasonal a life sentence for the 69-year-old. joining us now to discuss, former federal judge kevin sharp
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and cnn commentator becarry sellers. was this a fair sentence, kevin? >> no. i was surprised, a little disappointed in that. certainly the sentencing guidelines of something in the 20 year range i think judge ellis was right. that would have been too harsh, but a four year sentence for based on these facts and circumstances, it came woefully short a sentence that would have been fair. >> you say this is an example of how the criminal justice system in this country favors the white, the rich, the powerful. explain how you see it this way. >> i don't think that -- i actually don't think this was fair at all and it perfectly scepticismfullies what i said and what you saw was privilege in that courtroom. i practice in the federal consume often. i'm going to meet with the
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solicitor today when i meet leave this studio and what we see is nonviolent drug offenders get far greater sentence than that of paul manafort. seeing a downward departure from 20 years plus to four years is something that is rarely, if ever, seen in a federal courthouse and so, the only thing that individuals can attribute this to -- let me just say for your viewers, i'm not shocked by this at all. i'm too tired to be appalled by this because this is something that we see day in and day out in our criminal justice system where there is a group of individuals who benefit while there are many others who are toiling in federal prisoners for nonviolent drug offenses. it's over 2,000 nonviolent drug offenders that have been sentenced to life or serving over 50 years in prison compared to paul manafort who's had a life of criminality. >> do you agree with that assessment, kevin, that the system is just messed up that way? that this is just a reflection of the system, not necessarily poor judgment by ellis? >> i think it's a combination of
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both. the system favors the wealthy and the white. i don't think you can look at the data and disagree with congressman sellers on that. my time off the bench, i've been very outspoken about what i think are incredibly harsh sentences for nonviolent drug offenders, mandatory sentences myself. i had to sentence a young man to a mandatory life in prison for a crime that i think probably deserved eight, nine, ten years maximum and so i can see why someone looking at this sentence would be very, very frustrated with it. the system works differently for those who are wealthy and for those who are white. it's hard to argue with that. >> that being said, sentencing isn't over for manafort. he's going to face another judge this month, in fact, next week for his conspiracy charges and also for the lies he apparently
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told after striking a plea deal. the first judge, of course, was outspoken against the special counsel, at least very critical of mueller's team. bakari, do you think this next judge will be tougher? >> i don't have the audacity to believe that i can get in the head of these amazing jurors -- judges, but what i can say is, even though paul manafort got four years at 69 years old, that is still a very long time and i'm not sure if the sentences will be running concurrently or consecutively. i'm not sure how the federal bureau of prisons will look at that, per se. what i can say is for anyone who believes that the president's former campaign manager, the individual who ran the campaign for the president of the united states to now two years later be serving substantial amount of prison time, to say that's not a big deal is just false. this is a big deal. he will get more time and for someone who's 70 years old, although the sentences aren't what we want them to be by any
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stretch, these are still very long sentences for someone his age. >> we heard the president say on his way to air force one -- did you want to comment on that as well? >> you have to remember that -- that the sentencing next week the judge will be looking at a very different set of crimes and so she will sentence based on the guilty plea that's in front of her. so i think you will see a different sentence, much more harsh. >> on the issue of collusion, the president seemed to jump on some words from judge ellis saying that the sentence means no collusion, he tweeted both the judge and the lawyer in the paul manafort case stated loudly and for the world to hear that there was no collusion with russia. you want to make sure our vursz are very clear here, the judge said he was just giving a reminder that is this sentence specifically is not for anything related to 2016 election interference, but he didn't say there was no collusion, period. so kevin, is the president misrepresenting the judge's comments? >> well, that wasn't what this
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trial was about, right? this was bank fraud. this wasn't about collusion. this was failure to pay taxes, and so that it's not about collusion, not surprising. that's not what he was on trial for. that will wait for mr. mueller's report. >> bakari, i want to get your take on freshman congresswoman omar's comments. an article in the jewish journal criticized this move. all lives matter instead of black lives matter. is that a fair comparison? >> no, i do believe that not only were -- not only has congresswoman omar's language been troublesome or beyond troublesome, something that needs to be dealt with in conversations with leadership, but many of our house leadership's response to this has been disappointing at best. democrats should not have any
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communication issues when it comes to renouncing anti-semitism. in fact, that should be something that we should easily check off our list of things to do. to see us stumble and meander just in dealing with these basic issues has been disappointing at best and see us not be able to get our messaging on point has been very disappointing. my hope is that words matter and anti-semitism in any shape, form or fashion has no place in the political discourse of dialogue. it's very difficult for us to continuously call out that anti-semitism and racism on the right when we allow it to permeate our messaging on the left. the leadership has to do a much better job of getting its caucus in line. >> and now we have the president jumping on this issue that you just brought up and calling democrats the party -- the anti-jewish, anti-israel party. i know you would disagree with that and we'll discuss a little bit more in the next block. great to have both of you with us. thank you so much. he is one of the loudest critics of the president and happens to be married to
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president trump taking a stunning parting shot at democrats for passing a resolution condemning hate and bigotry. before departing for alabama, the president accused the democratic party of being anti-israel and anti-jewish. his comments come as the house overwhelmingly passed a broad resolution condemning many forms of hate including anti-semitism and anti-muslim descriptiiscrim in the end, there were 23 nos, votes against this resolution condemning hate and bigotry and one present vote, all from republicans. >> i thought that vote was a disgrace and so does everybody
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else if you get an honest answer. if you get an honest answer from politicians, they thought it was a disgrace. the democrats have become an anti-israel party, they've become an anti-jewish party. >> cnn chief political correspondent dana bash is with us now. dana, let's just rewind and remind people of what president trump has said himself during his apec speech. >> is there anybody that doesn't renegotiate deals in this room? this room negotiates deals. perhaps more than any room i've ever spoken to. maybe more. he raised $125 million which means he's controlled totally, totally controlled by the people that gave him the money. that's why you don't want to give me money. that's okay. you want to control your own politician. that's fine. >> that on top of president trump's charlottesville comment that there are good people on
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both sides of that neo-nazi rally that turned deadly. you have jim jordan's questionable tweets. a white nationalist who have called for the elimination of jews. why wot president go there on this one? >> who knows. it was offensive. it just was, because it's obvious on it's face what the president is trying to do. it's kind of -- the political version of trying to, you know, shoot fish in a barrel. trying to expose a real rift within the democratic party on how to deal with this issue, which we can get to in a second. of course, in typical donald trump fashion on these issues, he takes it 700 steps too far. the democrats are anti-jewish and anti-israel? i mean, are there splits within the party, sure, but tell that to the jewish judiciary chairman, the jewish foreign
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relations chairman and on and on and on and that's probably giving that statement more credence than it needs to be and it's unfortunate because he makes so many over-the-top comments that people just shrug their shoulders but this one, it shouldn't be a shoulder shrug. that was outrageous. >> never mind cnn's 2016 exit poll showing hillary clinton won 70% of the jewish vote, trump brought in 23% of this vote. now you have 23 republicans, dana, who voted no on a resolution against hate. who and why? what was their calculation to vote no? >> it's really interesting. it is, for the most part and each of these 23 republicans gave slightly different reason, but for the most part, the gist was, that they thought -- they argued it was watered down and it was their way to protest what democrats have done, meaning, the democrats started out by
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saying that they would put a resolution on the floor of the house that was just condemning anti-semitism and then when there was backlash against the democratic leadership from other minority groups, muslims, for example, then they added that and then it just went on and on and on. so it was so broad that what many of these 23 republicans, including lee zeldin, for example, a jewish republican from new york argued was that it was pointless and it was -- it was -- it didn't make any sense. the flip side of that is, you can make that argument that it's pointless, but you are still on the record voting against a resolution condemning, not just anti-semitism but basically hate across the board. is that really what you want on your record because you're trying to make a political point? i think the most interesting and noteworthy of those no votes,
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ana, was liz cheney who is now a member of the house republican leadership. she's an important role. she is the house conference chair. she's supposed to be and she is in charge of messaging for house republicans. she broke with the house republican leadership and voted no on that. she made similar arguments to what i just said but it certainly is -- it's interesting because republican leaders generally do things together and the question is whether a lot of republicans who i'm talking to today or questioning whether she's trying to send a message to members of the republican leadership and elsewhere. >> and they certainly made this story now about republicans when it was about democrats. >> this is about -- this is the democrats trying to figure out a way to please their very, very new, very roucus, very diverse caucus and there are democrats -- jewish democrats and others who aren't jewish who are not happy with the way that nancy pelosi handled it, but
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leading is hard. >> no doubt about it, especially on issues that are sensitive as this one. dana bash, always good to have you with us. >> thank you. big announcement today from presidential candidate elizabeth warren, her plan to break up amazon, google and facebook. how would that work? michael cohen says under oath he did not ask for a pardon and now the president says, oh, yes, he did. so who do you believe now? does removing makeup your skin deserves better. garnier micellar cleansing water with micelles that work like a magnet. it's a pure way to remove stubborn makeup without harsh rubbing. cleansing, reinvented. micellar water. by garnier, naturally!
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welcome back. the president's son-in-law and senior adviser jared kushner is facing even more scrutiny from lawmakers. house democrats say they want to learn more about his family's
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flagship office towers, 666 5th avenue and the qatar backed cash infusion that helped his family rescue itself from $1.1 billion of debt. >> that's an issue of major concern especially with respect to mr. kushner's family finances and then some significant investments made by people with interests in the transfer of nuclear technology to saudi arabia, so the property is 666 5th avenue. >> why are lawmakers concerned about kushner's private real estate bailout? >> cure ner took on a unique role at the white house helping conduct middle east policy and most recently holding private meetings with saudi arabia's crown prince. joining us now dan alexander a reporter for forbes. remind us what we know about
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this 6665th avenue deal and what we don't know. >> we know that it was an enormous problem for the kushner family for years. it was purchased right before the real estate crash. jared kushner goes in there makes a big deal and right away it becomes a failure because of the huge crash. so all of a sudden this thing is way under water and it's become an albatross for them for years now. they've got to figure out some way to save it and how do you save it if you're looking for big money, one of the places you'll look is overseas. he was looking overseas during the campaign. that created a lot of controversy and then ultimately they got a bailout here from brook field which stirred up more controversy because of some of the connection that's brookfield has with other investors particularly ones from foreign countries. >> are those having an impact? what is kushner camp saying about all this? >> the kushner camp says that it had no impact and brookfield says it has no impact and the
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qataris who are investors in brookfield say that they didn't even know about it until the deal happened. i think that that's probably true, that this probably was just a business transaction. in the world of new york real estate, if you're looking for big money, you've got to go to foreign places. the business world at that level is so interconnected, but that points to a greater point which is, why is it that jared kushner decided to hold on to his assets and open up all these questions? he didn't have to do this and if you look at who his mentors were, carl icahn taking a position there, wilbur ross holding on to his assets, of course, the president holding on to his assets, when you have that many people setting an example, then we get to this point in the presidency where there's serious questions around all of their finances. >> but hasn't kushner divested. >> he's divested from 666 5th by selling it to a transfer that his mom now controls but he held on to some of the businesses in
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the other portfolio. if you have this huge property, does that impact the other things he owns in the family portfolio not to mention the fact that if your mom now owns it or controls it or the rest of your family does, does that effect the way you think about it? is it now -- legally you're okay there but is it going to influence the way you're considering things? >> good point. thank you so much. really appreciate that. new today, we're learning more about the florida day spa where robert kraft stands accused of soliciting prostitution. "the miami herald" has found a photo of the woman that once owned this place with president trump. build attendance for an event. help people find their way. fastsigns designed new directional signage. and got them back on track. get started at fastsigns.com. and got them back on track. have you ever worked with dr. francis? oh yeah, he's ok. umm... just ok? guess who just got reinstated! well, not officially.
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now to syria where the death toll among people fleeing isis's shrinking caliphate is on the rise. 97 people, two-thirds of them children under the age of 5 have either died trying to reach a refugee camp or died upon arrival. the u.n. reports thousands more are expected in the coming days. cnn ben wedeman is in eastern syria and he was with a group of isis fighters as they ser rend derd their vanishing territory. >> reporter: in defeat, gone is the bravado and the cockiness. the defeat, the men of the so-called islamic states bow their head and cover their faces. the sharp contrast with the shrill triumphism of isis's early days. we couldn't fight any more so we surrendered this man says. in the last few days, hundreds of isis fighters have surrendered to the u.s. backed syrian democratic forces.
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some have yet to give up. this video shot wednesday of the group's last enclave shows men on foot in motor bike moving about in broad daylight. vanquished isis may be, yet among a palestinian refugee hasn't given up. he concedes defeat today, but not tomorrow. maybe the americans rule the world today he tells me, but god almighty promised the muslims that in the end the world will be ruled by islam. their state is close to death, not their delusions. despite the war and all the problems imposed upon it, i think the islamic state was a success he tells me. no one gave it the chance to offer anything to the world. the state where men claim to rule in the name of god and
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women obeyed is on the brink of extinction and the children and the women are paying the price. caked in dust, dazed and confused, hungry and thirsty. scrambling on to trucks normally used to transport livestock bound for camps in the north. in defeat, misery is their lot. ben wedeman, cnn, eastern syria. this is cnn breaking news. >> i'm ana cabrera in for brooke baldwin. you're watching cnn. a very busy friday for the trump white house which finds itself again at the center of several breaking news stories right now. communications chief bill shine is out. taking a job in the trump re-election campaign. more on that in just a moment. for paul manafort, the man who was chairman of donald