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was not about collusion and tweeting bad lawyer and fraud michael cohen said he never asked for a pardon. his lawyers totally contradicted him and lied and directly asked me, i said no. he lied again and badly wanted to work at the white house. he lied. it's been a heavy twitter week for the president about the various investigations including 811 letters and quoting now they realize the only collusion with russia was done by crooked hillary clinton and the democrats, the shift heads of the committees have gone stone cold crazy. 81 letters sent to innocent people to harass them, they won't get anything done for our country. just to be clear, some of those people the president called innocent include convicted or admitted felons. joining us is congresswoman katy hill of the oversight committee and david who sits on the
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judiciary and foreign affairs committee. appreciate both of you. the president is calling michael cohen a liar. michael is calling the president a liar. both men have a very complicated relationship with the truth. >> yeah, i mean, the reality is that we have one man who lied to protect the president. we have a president whose calling him a liar over and over again because he -- that's the only thing he's got to destroy the credibility that exists, what limited credibility exists but the reality is we don't have any -- we're never going to rest our entire case on michael cohen's testimony. we were never going to. but what we do have is the evidence he brought in. we have the 15 checks he brought that show the fraud.
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does it matter he said maybe he didn't, i don't know, before he started cooperating with the special counsel and stopped trying to cover up for trump that he had tried to possibly let his lawyers investigate a potential pardon? i don't know. i don't think this matters. i think we have to look at the bigger picture and that's what we got to stay focused on. >> congressman, president obama's former senior advisor david axelrod tweeted this week about the document request from your committee saying quote, the wide ranging nature of it easily plays into the witch hunt meme. would a targeted request be a better strategy or good with the 81 contacts? >> no, look, we should be clear about this. during the obama administration, just as a contrast, republicans during the obama administration made requests for literally millions of documents. that's not an exaggeration. this is the beginning of the
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judiciary investigati investigation. we requested documents from 81 individuals very targeted and asked for initial responses, give us what you have given to the special counsel so they have done their review of these documents. their lawyers looked at them. they are probably on a thumb drive. let us start with that to get caught up to speed. part of the problem is the judiciary committee hasn't done oversight at all. we had over 500-page document detailing efforts to persuade the republicans to do oversight and refused. so we're doing this work and we have to begin by gathering these documents so that we did make determinations to how we proceed from here this is our responsibility. we take it seriously. the good news is, the president keeps saying all we'll do is investigate. while we're doing these investigations, we pass the most comprehensive ethics reform bill since watergate today and pass two common sense gun safety pieces of legislation and begun
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hearings to drive down the cost of prescription drugs. the good news is we can do both. move forward on the agenda and hold this administration accountable. >> congresswoman hill, you said there are whistle-blowers as in more than one in touch with your committee. generally, what kind -- if you can say, what kind of things are they providing the committee and has it yielded anything useful yet? >> this is around the security clearances and information requested by the committee and by the chairman to really clear up what that process looks like and why the president over ruled a decision and recommendation made to not issue security clearances to members of his family. so this is, you know, that got reported by a whistle blower. we got other things reported by whistle-blowers around the arrangement of saudi arabia and potential nuclear capabilities that are going to be transferred to saudi arabia. there are so many instances where we're getting information from possible whistle-blowers
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and this is something that we have to investigate fully, and -- >> are they -- >> sorry, are these whistle-blowers alleging wrongdoing? >> oh, well, i mean, yeah. that's why they are whistle blowers. >> yeah. i mean, seems obvious but i had to ask. has the judiciary committee had any interactions with whistle-blowers inside administration that want to provide information to your committee? >> we just made our document request as you know this past week. i think the good news is the trump administration is learning that there are people within his administration very concerned about the misconduct and about some of the decisions made and the potential conflicts of interest and criminality. they are sharing fineinformatio. this is about the security of our country. the president not only over ruled the intelligence but lied about it and said he had nothing to do with it. that's not true. jared kushner, his family was
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financed in the fifth avenue property by the same company trying to sell nuclear products to the saudis and got chinese trade. there is a lot of reason to be concerned about the issuing of these security clearances that go to the heart of our response to keep america safe and protect the national security of our country. i expect we'll continue to see people who are conscience whistle-blowers and be sure the american people know the truth and all jurisdictions will have to rely on that to resist efforts to get this document and get this information. >> and my colleague is absolutely right. this does come down to the safety of the american people. you don't have whistle-blowers doing this to cause pdrama but fear what our president is doing to jeopardize american lives and alliances and right now, that is exactly what we don't know. we had a congress for the last two years that has been doing everything it can to protect this president and to make sure
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that the information that's out there is not being made available to the public and what we're doing right now is trying to make sure we're able to show that and to really get to the bottom of this and expose the truth. we're not out to get anyone. we want to make sure that information is known, and take that path wherever it leads us. >> congresswoman hill, appreciate it. thank you so much. i want to dig deeper into the question of michael cohen, his credibility, pardons and another big week development in washington and southern district of new york. joining me is pete who served as u.s. attorney for the southern district. when you were a federal prosecutor, how did you handle situations where two people have a history of lying are both accusing the other of not telling the truth? >> it happens from time to time. when you decide to arrest someone part of an organization or group or crime family where both the party that is trying to flip and the party against whom that person flipped have committed crimes and crimes of deception including lying, then
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you have your work cut out for you and you have to make sure when you decide to sign someone up and rely on their testimony and more importantly, ask someone else namely a jury or finder of fact to rely on testimony, you have to corroborate it and make sure that when this person goes and testifies, in other context like congress for example that he's not subject to criticism after having pled guilty to lying he is not still lying. you have -- again, i think overall, i agree with the person who say michael cohen was generally speaking credible on the important points and material points but he has some troubles and that's not great for him. >> michael cohen's attorney lanny davis confirmed in fact that cohen had explored a pardon with the president's attorneys in the past but that the quote new michael cohen wouldn't accept a pardon if the president offered it. the new michael cohen, i mean, it certainly is a defense i haven't heard before. have you? >> no, i haven't. again, i don't think it goes necessarily to the core of the
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testimony. what happens in court all the time, this was not a court proceeding but a congressional hearing. this is a far cry. you'll have cooperating witnesses who will have hick jumsjum -- ups along the way if it's a complicated scheme. at the end of the day, the prosecutor asked the jury to consider the entirety of the testimony and the materiality of the testimony and says look, with respect to the couple of things, you know, in the hypothetic hypothetical, he seemed to stumble a little bit but look at what the other testimony was and look how it was corroborated and testified and spoke confidently and honestly about the payment to stormy daniels and the other woman and had the checks to show it and those checks clearly showed donald trump's signature. so focus on that, ladies and gentlemen. don't focus on this sort of sbak and forth whether or not he talked about a pardon, who asked for the pardon first. that's not important.
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that sometimes works and it sometimes doesn't. >> right. isn't the counter argument, if you're willing to lie in front of congress about things that aren't important and asking for a pardon or whether or not you wanted a job in the white house then what does that mean about, you know, the things that are really important? >> look, at the end of a trial, a judge says to the jury, something like you are allowed to consider the overall credibility of the witness based on particular untruths they may have told but you're also allowed to consider whether or not the person was truthful about a number of things and maybe fudged or had problematic testimony on others and that's the job of the persuader whether it's a prosecutor or member of congress and an impeachment type proceeding to make the argument. overall, the people who are watching and paying attention have to be persuaded on the points that are important, the truth was told. >> we still don't have a report from robert mueller but regardless of what he finds, the reality is the president is
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facing tremendous legal exposure from these other investigations. is it one being run by the sdny that would likely concern him the most or should likely concern him the most? >> i think so. there is lots of things swirling around but on the one issue in which there has been clarity from both someone who decided to cooperate who pled guilty, talking about michael cohen and his view has been endorsed by my former office of the southern district of new york and the plea allocution is approved by sitting federal court judge is the assertion that donald trump committed a crime in directing michael cohen to make certain payments on the eve of the election. that's a flat statement by michael cohen. he said it multiple times. it's been endorsed by the prosecutor's office and court and you have based on the congressional testimony, other evidence including the checks that were provided including common sense, you know, why would it be the case that payments would be made by a lawyer through some complicated
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thing like an agreement -- an agreement with the lawyer if it wasn't for the benefit of the client and the client knew about it? so -- >> yeah. >> i think if he didn't have that document in the department of justice, in the olc office that says a sitting president can't be prosecuted, if you are an ordinary person, i'm coming closer and closer to the view that the president of the united states, if he were not the president but an ordinary person with common sense evidence and documentary evidence and with witness testimony, even from someone who is a little problematic, he probably would be chargeable today. >> wow. if he was a regular citizen, he would be chargeable today. >> i said i'm getting very close to believing that to be true. i don't know all the evidence and know all the problems and looked at all the comparable case law. it one thing to accept a guilty plea for a particular crime when you're charging him with something else. it different to go to trial
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against someone else involved in that scheme. those are different things and some gap there, but the more i hear and the more we learn and the more we hear about the lies that were told about those payments, the closer i get to te determining if the president were an ordinary person, he would be worried about getting arrested, yeah. >> appreciate it. thank you. coming up next, the storm over congresswoman's troeps and the questions about the anti hate resolution passed in the house. president trump fueled the flames again today. we'll bring you that. jussie smollett's legal problems got a whole lot worse. we'll tell you exactly why ahead. allergies with sinus congestion and pressure? you won't find relief here. go to the pharmacy counter for powerful claritin-d. while the leading allergy spray only relieves 6 symptoms, claritin-d relieves 8, including sinus congestion and pressure. claritin-d relieves more.
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the president weighed in on the anti hate and anti semi'tis
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-- anti-semitism and doesn't mention the house member and trobes that made it necessary. the democratic congresswoman omar says i want to talk about the political influence in this country that says it is okay for people to push for allegiance to a foreign country, meaning israel. prior to that responding to a tweet about defending israel, he says at the cost of free speech in this country, congresswoman omar replayed with a tweet of her own quote, it's all about the benjamins, baby. she since apologized but also tried to change the subject saying at the same time i reaffirm the problematic role of lobbyist in politics whether it be apac, it's gone on too long. that's the backdrop to the house measure the president criticized earlier today. >> i thought that vote was a
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disgrace and so does everybody else if you get an honest answer. if you get an honest answer from politicians, they thought it was a disgrace. the democrats have become an anti-israel party and anti-jewish party. that's too bad. >> he has just written an op ed piece and also why i left the right. so max i enjoyed reading your piece. you say that democrats in congress missed an opportunity to show that they're more honorable and righteous than their republican colleagues. can you explain what you mean? >> what she said is really to my mind textbook anti-semitism because she was saying that people that support israel are pledging loyalty to a foreign country. this is not something that anybody says about advocates for the u.s.-british alliance or the u.s. alliance with poland or any other country around the world.
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this is only something that people say about supporters of israel basically reviving this old anti-semitic thing about dual loyalty. democrats know what she is saying but what you're seeing now is that while democrats are comfortable calling out president trump and the republicans for their risk schism and rightly so. i call them out for their racism too. it's disgraceful and despicable what president trump and the republicans are saying, unfortunately, democrats are being just as tribalistic as republicans and they're hesitating to call out one of their own. and giving president trump a chance to turn the tables and be the voice calling out antisemitism which is obviously i don't know if ironic isn't the right word but stands in stark contrast in what he said about there being good people on both sides talking about neo nazis. >> exactly.
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the democrats are giving donald trump an opportunity to posture as an enemy of bigotry. the marchers saying jews will not replace us, those are the people that donald trump is praising as fine people. donald trump built his whole career around racism. remember, he came to political prominens pushing the birther conspiracy against president obama. he has no credibility and yet because of this self-inflicted wound, democrats are giving him the opportunity to do just that. >> he wouldn't answer the question and he changed the subject. it is -- congress people on all sides don't necessarily attack people in their own party but
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does it surprise you that the democrats have taken this route? that what could have been just a condemnation of anti-semitism was morphed into this genetic condemnation of anything bad. >> it's a bad sign for the future of the democratic party. the house leadership did call her out last month but she keeps on saying this and this time around democrats are reluctant. and presidential candidates like bernie sanders and elizabeth warren. and they're saying there's an institutionalized anti-semitism that's taken root. we're a long way away from that. but you have to be as vigilant and it's uncomfortable to do so.
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i get that because this is one of your own but democrats need to show that they're better than republicans. >> i appreciate it. thank you very much. >> jussie smollett is in new legal jeopardy tonight. more than a dozen new criminal charges for the "empire" star. what his defense team is telling us about this next. you wouldn't accept an incomplete job from any one else. why accept it from your allergy pills? flonase sensimist relieves all your worst symptoms, including nasal congestion, which most pills don't. and all from a gentle mist you can barely feel.
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false reports of a crime after he claimed to be the victim of a racist and anti gay attack on the streets of chicago. police think it was a work of fiction by the actor out on bail. short time ago, i spoke with his attorney mark geragos who is maintaining his innocence. >> isn't it weird to get attacked by two people you know who have been on "empire" and you've worked out with and you don't recognize them? >> yes. i don't know whether he made that statement or but what i do know is that when he was told that they had evidence against these two, he refused to sign the complaint because he could not believe it. if he thought they were in on it, would he have signed the complai
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complaint? he didn't believe it. now, if you're asking me what their motivation is, i suppose i could speculate but motivation of jussie is not an element of the crime. their motivation, i've got my theories on it but i haven't seen one piece of evidence and they don't have one piece of evidence they have turned over that links jussie to this. what they do have is a whale of a case, as if you believe what the police chief is saying, they got a great case against the two brothers. >> with me now is "new york times" columnist charles blow and joey jackson. joey, just let's start with the legal aspects. this is over kill and they don't have the allegations and he wanted more money from empire and more attention that there is no evidence anyone from the
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police department spoke to anyone at the production so they have no way to know that. >> i know mark geragos. he's a colleague of mine and an outstanding lawyer and good person. i see things completely different as it relates to the case. backing up and reminding the viewers this is an indictment and that means that there is reasonable cause to believe that a crime was committed or crimes in this case were committed and that jussie smollett committed them. the grand juries don't get to vet the information they are provid provided. 16 grant juriy grand juries sit don't decide guilt beyond a reasonable doubt and they will indict. having said that, i completely disagree with my colleague for a variety of reasons, number one as it relates to your cross examination that doesn't the story have to make sense, it does. when you have the story and talk about someone out at 2:00 in the
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morning in the frigid cold in chicago going to a subway, not giving the police his phone records and then by the way, redacting them and saw the whites of the eyes and knew they happened to be white and urn thes out they were black. none of that makes sense and get to the issues that are forgetting about the story, just the lies of which he told and the motivations at the end of the day, the grand jury having indicted and a jury em pabled and we'll hear the case, you don't have to decide what motivations are. the superintendent was out there talking about he did not get enough pay. that's not the issue. the issue did he lie or not and based on that it's a very difficult case for the defense. >> yeah, charles, does any of this make sense to you yet? we talked about this early on. >> what part of it? >> i don't know. the whole thing seems -- i don't understand it.
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mark geragos is pointing at these two brothers, he says there is evidence against them. there is not against jussie smollett. i'm wondering how you see this? >> i was waiting for some defense because the evidence laid out by the police department seemed very compelling. we didn't get to see it. they just told us about it. i didn't get to read transcripts of interviews or anything. so you just have to take their word for it and that's tricky with the chicago police department. let's just be honest about that. but it was compelling against him. so he kept maintaining that he was innocent. so i'm waiting to see what could you possibly say?
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it seems that he is saying i'm going to put my client up against the two brothers and the jury is going to have to see which of these two groups of people they believe and that you have actual evidence that they did something, you're going to have to give me proof positive that my client instructed them to do it and where is the proof of that. maybe that's the defense. i agree with joey. there's a lot of other things around that he said, he said, he said that are shaky. and i think we wouldn't even be talking about this were it not for the invocation of whiteness and of trump support. other than that, if it was just another black guy claiming -- either being assaulted or claiming to be assaulted because he was gay, we wouldn't and that's a tragedy in america in and of itself and i say to people who are white and feel like this is a group attack or people who are trump supporters and they feel like this is a group attack, actually understand that feeling, that tribal response to something and feeling like something that is
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targeted -- some people actually applies to the whole. but i want you to remember this feeling the next time that the president attacks a black man when he's kneeling for social justice and why everybody who is engaged in social justice takes that as a tribal attack and response. because they responded exactly the way that you feel today. every time he makes an attack on women and individual women and all women take that as a tribal attack. this is the feeling. i understand your feeling. keep that energy and remember that feeling when the shoe is on
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the other foot. >> just in terms of the legal, the time line, what happens next? >> well, what happens next is you go and on thursday, what will happen is he'll be presented to the judge. the judge will know and understand or ask him whether he knows and understands that he is facing an indictment. what the charges are in the indictment. once he has been read the indictment and i would assume his attorneys would wave a public reading. they'll just ask whether he understands what he is being accused of. he'll enter a plea of not guilty and at that point discovery which i heard mark said he hasn't had any or doesn't have adequate discovery which is the exchange of information, police reports, documents, et cetera. he'll get those and make any motions he wants. there's issues concerning leaks in the police department and internal investigations. that's going to mean nothing. it may mean nothing as it relates to charging police that are leaking things but doesn't mean anything for his client and his client will have his day in court where there will be a full blown trial. there's a lot to be said for a mea culpa here. you march yourself into the district attorney's office preindictment and you say, listen, we could resolve this by all accounts jussie smollett is an outstanding person. is a very beloved figure and if the evidence is as it purports to be and i haven't heard it defended yet. i've heard a lot of accusations about the police and people fired from the hospital for leaking information.
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that means nothing as it relates to whether he's guilty or not and it may be time to settle up and get this thing done and over. >> joey jackson, appreciate it. charles as well. you may have seen this on the broadcast earlier this week. drew griffin trying to get any kind of an answer from the man president trump just nominated to be the next interior secretary trying to get a response ability allegations he's serving his former clients since being in office. just ahead, i'll talk to him about an important update. so that if your customer needs shoes, & he's got wide feet. & with edge-to-edge intelligence you've got near real time inventory updates. & he'll find the same shoes in your store that he found online he'll be one happy, very forgetful wide footed customer. at&t provides edge to edge intelligence. it can do so much for your business, the list goes on and on. that's the power of &. & if your customer also forgets socks! & you could send him a coupon for that item. introducing zero account fees for brokerage accounts. and zero minimums to open an account.
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there is breaking news in washington. ryan left under a cloud of allegations and former long-time oil industry lobbyist is already facing some of his own. drew griffin broke the story in the program this week namely
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that bernhart has already allegedly been doing the bidding of the very companies he used to represent. his office absolutely denies the claim. drew tried to get answers as what was billed as a news confrco conference in atlanta. >> can we have a few minutes of your time? we thought we would get a few questions to ask you. we're doing a story. >> go ahead and reach out. >> we did and the fact that more than a dozen of your former clients have been getting favors through the department of interiors since you joined. >> is that just a consequence. >> we'll be happy to visit with you at any time. right now is not the time but talk to my press folks and we'll set something up. >> just to be clear your press folks told us that you are inaccessible for the next several weeks. >> they haven't talked to me so
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i'll talk to them. >> turns out he's not just not seeing cnn. the house committee wants answers as well. on the public questions it raises questions about the attempt to hide or manipulate federal records. what is this about hiding or manipulating calendars? that's part of what lead to the resignation of scott pruett isn't it? >> it is. all of these external meetings or staff meetings of various schedules that offer no explanation of who he is meeting with. there are 100 hours of official government time unaccounted for according to the house committee and the committee is concerned about not just with whom he is meeting with but it appears that some of the meetings or at least names have been deliberately omitted. one involves a lobbying firm that worked for the trump organization but what is most
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shocking about all of this is bernhardt's response, he tells the chairman of the committee of natural resources that he has no legal obligation to personally maintain a calendar. he has not personally maintained a calendar for years and telling congress now, i have no intention of suddenly doing so now. let me show you why this matters. not just to congress but other watchdog groups. interior department visitors logs show the american petroleum institute ceo visited bernhardt but the only entry is this. meeting to discuss energy issues. it doesn't say anything about american petroleum institute or that the american petroleum institute represents energy companies that are two of his former clients. he did say his staffers would work to make various records available to the house committee but the spokesperson wouldn't respond to our questions on whether or when those records are going to be released,
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anderson. >> congress wants to find out who he is meeting with. he's now in a position to grant favors or influence policy that might benefit some of his old clients. that's the bottom line concern. >> that is the bottom line concern. the reason he wouldn't talk to us about this is since he joined the department of interior, the agency made 15 policy changes, decisions or proposals that would directly benefit his former clients. the house committee wants some oversight and he's just saying i don't keep a calendar. >> we'll see if he grants you an interview. keep working on it. >> new york times quotes joe biden as saying he's 95% committed to joining the
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he said this about the idea of reparations. i don't feel responsible for the sins of my father and grandfather. i feel responsible for the sins of my own generation. i don't feel responsible to pay for what happened 100 years ago. he advocated legislation aimed . he advocated legislation aime30. he advocated legislation aimed at curving violent crime. >> we have predators on our streets that society has, in fact, in part because of its negligent created. it does not mean that we forgive them and we do not take them out of society to protect my family and yours from them. they are beyond the pale many of those people. and it's a sad commentary on society. we have no choice but to take
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them out of society. >> so with me now is david axelrod that was a key adviser of president obama and obviously knows joe biden very well. >> you know joe biden. you worked with him in the white house obviously. what does it say to you that he's still not 100% sure he wants to run. >> there's something holding him back although his aids have been pretty clear he was way down the road. 95% they say. mayor bloomberg announced he wasn't going to run this week. the senator of ohio. both of whom were considered in that lane of the kind of center left that biden holds. so that suggests to me that they believe he's running. but you know, i believe this is a difficult decision for his family in particular. and while the politics are good, there's barriers here.
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he has the benefit of 45 years of speernsd relationships that are all helpful but there's also the down side. >> it's so interesting what you say about his experience and the length of time. you can look at that as a huge bonus but you also have a huge record that could be picked apart. the clips, the interviews that surfaced over the past several days. those are certainly the kind of things that i don't know if that would convince him not to run. >> but he hasn't run for anything in awhile and this is a reminder that right now he is an exalted figure in the democratic party. widely regarded. the minute you become a candidate, you know, you are fair game and all of those things begin to be picked apart. in 45 years there are things
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there and there's particularly things that in the moment seemed less bothersome to people than in the contemporary age. the way anita hill was treated. some of the things that were today. you can take quotes from the deep past, put them in a contemporary setting and they have a different context. >> where the democratic party is today. moving forward in the future. the other thing looming overall of this, he is 76 years old. you can't help -- that is something you have to take into consideration. >> there is no question about it. and he has to judge whether he has it in the tank. not just to run the race, but to
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vigorous enough for the job. he has to decide if he wants to submit himself to that. >> i wonder if that is why my hair turned gray. i don't think so. >> and spending the day with california governor nusome, what he considers the real emergency on the border. next.
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>> there will be a vote next week on the president's initial emergency in the senate.
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it could be xwrgsz if enough people in his party vote against it. according to his critics, one state is taking action on its own. >> california governor newsome has only been in office a couple of months, and he is angry. he is taking on what he sees is the border's pressing issue. >> i have four kids. >> so, he is taking a controversial step of using california taxpayer money $25 million dollars, for services tow asylum services. a shelter for migrants beginning asylum proceedings.
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these people came legally. these are people that came through the process legally. seeking asylum legally. >> the state funding of this shelter follows serious feuding. >> the president has chosen to under mine our constitution and fan the flames of nativism, and this is a national disgrace. it isn't a national emergency. >> do you think he is zenofobic? >> are you at war with the trump
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administration? >> the rhetoric we are hearing on the streets and sidewalks, there is a lot of toxicity in our body. >> there are some who say you shouldn't be doing that. the president thinks it is necessary, there is a national emergency, and you aren't being patriotic. >> this is comedic. >> you think it is funny? >> i think it is tragic. there is nothing funny. the comedy is the tragic. that is the comedy. it is political theater. every single person knows it. >> they would deny that. >> of course, they laugh, they all know better. >> you think the president is laughing? >> are this is all stick. >> are you concerned when you angry president trump, if there
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is mud slides or fire, that he will be thrifty? >> the alternative is to be c compli complicom complicit. roll over? >>. >> i want to work with the president of the united states. i will take a back seat to no one, to have the backs of the people. this remarkable place i call home. the state of california. to the extent that we will defend ourselves, and a position of strength. >> so, i understand that san diego county is run mostly by
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republicans, how do they feel about the governor's actions? >> well, the legislative body here is the board of supervisors there, are four republicans, one democrat, they voted to approve the sheltener this county. the mayor is republican, he supports the shelter. the governor, had nothing but good things to say about the republicans in the county. >> this is the fifth anniversary of a story that sadly has no final charleston a wide body jet disappeared five years ago. to this day, nobody knows why, how or where it is. it is an extraordinary story we began covering five years ago on this day. and still don't have answers. we have a cnn special report, it