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us. we hope you make good memories today. >> the news continues, breaking news with fredricka whitfield. good morning, everyone. i am fredricka whitfield. we've got this breaking news for you. newark airport reopening after an emergency landing prompted a shutdown this morning. passengers on a flight interest canada to florida evacuating the plane using emergency slides. you're taking a look at some of the recent images right there. the pilots contacted air traffic control requesting to divert and land immediately when smoke started filling the plane, frightening moments. let's bring in mary skaf oh from u.s. department of transportation. walk us through the potentials when you have the slides, passengers have to go to deplane, you've got some passengers saying they smelled smoke. what do you think happened? >> well, i think they'll be
looking at what's in the cargo hold, an e cigarette, batteries, something in the plane's batteries or something in the cargo hold that shouldn't have been loaded. good news is it was a newer 737 all the new model planes and all of the passenger service planes have smoke and fire detection and suppression equipment. this is good news in terms of what the plane can do, and they had early detection. that's thanks to a crash in 1996, a value jet, and families fought for smoke and fire detection systems in the cargo hold. there are a lot of modern advances to let this become a good news story. injuries were probably from the slides, when people do emergency evacuation, usually people are injured on the slides, long way down, twisted ankles, but that's a small price to pay for getting out in 90 seconds or less.
>> how do investigators go about looking for the source of that smoke? >> they have a lot of things at their disposal, obviously check the cargo and loading manifest, look at recent maintenance, look at the batteries on the plane itself and the plane and cargo right there to examine. they'll closely kmam in cargo. there's so much emphasis on cell phone and e cigarette fires. most of the recent fires started by e cigarettes, cell phone batteries, laptop batteries, usually in the passenger compartment, not in the cargo hold. that will be the focus. >> what goes into locating the nearest airport and finding availability and strip there at newark, new jersey? >> fortunately because of air traffic control, and they have been trained in this, when someone declares emergency, air traffic controllers in the united states and most aviation
nations clear that corridor. that airplane is having an emergency and believe me, smoke or fire detected is a dire emergency. air traffic control clears the airways and gives them everything they need to get the plane on the nearest available airport in their electronic flight bag of capabilities of every airport, newark can handle the biggest jumbo jets in the world. had they been somewhere else, they would have told them the nearest available airport to handle that plane. fortunately, a 737 can get on a fairly short runway, 5,000 foot runway if need be, they have a lot at their fingertips, and a lot of modern safety things that happened in the last 20 years. >> what determinations are made to reopen in newark since it was shutdown temporarily? >> that's up to the airport to decide. when they decide they have carefully and securely isolated the plane that had the emergency
and it is not blocking or impeding any airport operations and they can safely operate that airport, they open it. it has been opened already and they made that determination and it is rather surprising how quickly they can cordon off the area, get the emergency plane secured, know the emergency is over, get the airport reopened. every time newark closes, it is a hiccup there, but it is a big delay throughout the rest of the country because it is one of our main hubs, so it is pretty important that they got it open and they did. >> thank you so much for your expertise. appreciate it. >> thank you. less than a week after the collapse of the president's second summit with north korea's leader there are signs north korea may be preparing to launch a missile or satellite. that assessment is based on new satellite images showing vehicles moving and trains ready to be loaded at a north korean facility. it is the same facility that had been partially dismantled. analysts say a launch could be
imminent or it may be an attempt to draw attention from the u.s. either way, it could deal a serious blow to the relationship that's already showing quite a bit of strain. here is will hip lee. >> reporter: fred, what we're seeing based on analysis of commercial satellite imagery is a troubling shift to a million tar is particular posture. they could be preparing to launch in the near future after observing activity at a rocket, missile factory. analysts say what north korea has done is assembled something at the factory. they put together intercontinental ballistic missile there and space rockets there, something has been assembled, put on a rail car, and may be enroute to a launch site. we know that north korea's primary launch side, sohae, is believed to be fully operational according to analysts looking at satellite images, and a lot of work picked up in recent days,
in days following the hanoi summit when president trump sources say humiliated kim jong-un by abruptly walking out of talks without a signed deal, even skipping the lunch they were to have together, north koreans feel is an affront, something he may feel he has no choice but respond to. satellite launch would be a defiant response by the north koreans. they can argue they're launching a satellite for peaceful, scientific purposes, but the u.s. and international community see it differently, space rockets use the same technology that missiles use, technology that's banned by the u.n. security council. also in china we're getting word the chinese president may skip a planned visit to the united states at the end of the month for trade talks with president trump. chinese officials according to sources are concerned trump could walk out on xi like he did on kim, which they say would be a diplomatic catastrophe for the chinese president to be embarrassed the way kim jong-un
was. certainly signs that president trump's credibility in terms of diplomatic negotiations was undermines by what happened in hanoi. fred? >> thank you so much, will. president trump was asked about the u.s. relationship with north korea. this is what he had to say. >> well, time will tell but i have a feeling that our relationship with north korea, kim jong-un and myself, chairman kim, i think it's a very good one, i think it remains good. i would be surprised in a negative way if he did anything not per our understanding, but we'll see what happens. look, when i came in under the obama administration, north korea was a disaster. you were going to war, folks, whether you know it or not, you were going to war. there was no talking, there was testing. >> that was the president yesterday there at the white house. with me now, stacy plas, a delegate from virgin islands and member of the house oversite
committee. thanks so much for joining me. >> thanks for having me. >> let me start getting reaction to the latest developments indicating there might be some sort of preparation for a launch or satellite implementation if north koreans are a.mping up missile testing, what does it say about efforts from the u.s.? >> it says the leader of north korea is doing exactly what he's always wanted to do. this has been a game to him in many people's estimations. the fact is that the united states is looking for denuclearization by the north korean government. and he is showing us that he is, in fact, not at the table with regard to that. we're happy president trump left the table and left the negotiations when he did, but i think this is something that should remain at the diplomatic level, and for north korea's leader to even be sitting at the table with the leader of the
free world is a look that america should not encourage. >> is it your feeling that the north korean leader's way of blustering, flexing muscles, or is this potential movement something serious on the horizon in your view? >> well, who knows what's in the mind of a madman in many people's estimations. and i think we're going to leave it to the experts to give us members of congress, particularly those in intel and foreign service committee a full breakdown and briefing what that means and what they believe our next step should be, and my hope that the president would listen to the experts and national security advisers who are the best to advise him what the next step should be for us. >> let's shift gears a bit. you're on the house oversight committee. michael cohen had testified before your committee, the president's former attorney recently said a number of things
about the relationship and business dealings of the president before his presidency and during. now cohen and the president are in a whaar of words over cohen' denial he ever asked for a pardon. take a listen. >> i have never asked for nor would i accept a pardon from president trump. >> michael cohen lied about the pardon. that's a stone cold lie. he knew all about pardons. his lawyer said they went to my lawyers and asked for pardons, and i could go a step above that, but i won't go do it now. >> what peaks your interest about this, whether indeed cohen did ask for, whether what the president says he did ask directly, is all of this in concert with what the president has said in questioning to the mueller team? >> well, i think it has the interest of staffers and they're
combing transcripts to get the exact wording of what that may mean, and legal analysis of his specific words, it may be that he did not himself ask for it, which was the literal interpretation of his words. >> how much of a difference would it make? whether it was directly or by way of an attorney. >> we all knew going into the hearings that michael cohen was an untruthful person, that he had lied. i think we were all clear eyed to that when he was speaking, at least i know i was. the chairman of the committee was. and what we have been doing is looking at the corroborating evidence that he's brought in because we can't trust his word. >> does that mean you would pick and choose what is believable? >> of course it does. we pick and choose those things in the evidence he presented, and those are the things we're looking into, whether it is checks from the president, whether it is statements, and whether it is a host of other witnesses and individuals he has given us names of, those are the
individuals that we're going down the road and looking into. listen, this has been -- we are now investigating issues that are at the forefront of people's minds two years ago. what you're seeing now is a backlog of that, chairman gowdy and others were unwilling to ask these questions for two years, so now you're seeing a flood of what people are saying are investigations which are really simply doing our jobs, which is overseeing government operations, ensuring to the american people that we are being a check and a balance to this administration, and when there are areas we can work with them, we're going to continue to do that as well. >> and really quick, how do you strike a balance on oversight versus overkill and any perception that you're making up for lost time over the last two years? >> i completely agree with you there needs to be very precision in what we're asking for and that we're not just going around on a fishing expedition, there
needs to be coordination between chair men of the economy. so there isn't overlap. we're asking discussion about this. yesterday, the democratic majority passed hr 1, voting rights, a bill that voting rights. we're not talking about that in the news. this gives people of the territories to look into options of voting. those are things we should be talking about and we're not. so i think we need to be precise in our investigations while at the same time doing the people's work. making sure there's job security, infrastructure build and others. >> when you supported that house resolution yesterday that condemned anti-semitism, it started as a resolution, focused on anti-semitism from congressman omar, then it was reconstructed not to focus just on omar and her comments but a
wider range. 23 republicans voted against the resolution, calling it a sham. what's your response to them that said instead of directly condemning and targeting onmar and her comments, it made it broader. >> i think there's a broader discussion that needs to be had in this country about race and about issues of islamaphobia, anti-semitism, of tropes against the lgbtq community. there are republicans that are making comments that are offensive to minorities for a number of years. i think this is an appropriate way to focus all that. nip it in the bud. have the discussion, say where we stand so we can go onto the people's business. >> thank you for your time this saturday. >> thanks for having me. still ahead, empire actor
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he also went on good morning america and told the story as he saw it, he believed it, he wanted it to be heard. what jussie smollett told police, he was attacked by two men, one white, threw a news over his neck, and put a rope around his neck. two people were arrested who turned out to be african-american men, they told police and told a grand jury that in fact jussie smollett hired them to carry out the attack, cut them a check for $3500. in fact, they knew jussie smollett. the superintendent of chicago police says that he thinks the reason jussie smollett did this is he wasn't getting paid enough money to appear on the "empire" tv show. he has since been written out of that show for the final two episodes of the current season. now, even if he is convicted of all 16 counts, sentencing guidelines are still just for
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this week in washington capped off by another departure at the white house. the president accepted the resignation of his deputy chief of staff and de facto white house communications director bill shine who was expected to join forces with the trump 2020 re-election campaign. cnn learned behind the scenes the president began to sour on shine, questioning his judgment on a number of issues in recent months, growing increasingly frustrated with lack of improved press coverage. cnn political commentator david swerdlick, former president of white house correspondent association jeff mason are with me now. good to see you both. jeff, you first, this is director number six on the way out. any surprise there, anything new revealed about this departure
and circumstances? >> number one, i think it was a surprise, a lot of us didn't see that coming and the fact it was released in an e-mail at the time, at a time the president was traveling is sort of in line with how he fires people. despite the fact there were a lot of positive comments in the statement that the white house released from the president, from sarah sanders, from the chief of staff, it sort of looks like he was pushed out. our reporting also reuters reporting also would agree with what you were just saying from cnn sources, that the president was beginning to lose confidence in shine. that said, i think it is worth noting, this is evident in the number of people that held that job, that it is kind of a poison chalice of a job. >> why is that? >> the president serves as his own communications director, and having somebody with that title is just tricky. i think one thing bill shine tried to do is get out of the way and let trump be trump, but
they didn't really get -- he didn't really get into the inner circle doesn't sound like, didn't get the confidence of the president, and that may in the end be one of the reasons. >> does it mean it is difficult to be congruent with the message of the president because this president speaks for himself and, you know, coms director or anybody else may think this is the right thing to say, but then the president turns around and contradicts the message. >> yeah, fred. i mean, i think you're right about the president contradicting the message, sometimes not able to stay on message. also it's a situation where you have a president, i think it is fair to say after this many years of observing him who cares most about how he is perceived versus what he actually gets accomplished, and that makes the position of communications director that much more pressure packed. and bill shine coming from fox which is already essentially in the tank for the president didn't help him get better coverage from his point of view that he wanted from the rest of
mainstream media. >> furthermore, jeff, sources are telling cnn, quoting now, that shine's effectiveness in the west wing came with mixed results. it was unclear hutch he was able to change the white house's communications strategy. that was the expectation of the president. i mean, to change things or to do things differently. >> good question. i think he did come in with high expectations, having been at fox, having a background working with the media, to the extent he did. again, it is the trump white house. he was new. he is well respected by staff. he got along well with others in the communications and press department, but sarah sanders is somebody that the president has increasingly been leaning on, especially since hope hicks left. it was hope hicks' role that bill ended up sliding into. he didn't quite get the trust of
the president that president trump has with sarah, and didn't necessarily lead to an up tick in positive coverage which apparently is an expectation the president had. again, the president has a lot of control over his own coverage, insofar as he makes his own news with tweets, comments, remarks. it would be tricky, regardless who you are, to have a huge influence on that from the white house. >> david, let's talk about michael cohen who has gotten under the skin of the president. the president tweeting his former lawyer directly asked him for a pardon, but we heard cohen tell congress this last week. >> i have never asked for nor would i accept a pardon from president trump. >> david, is there a new problem for the president now that he is saying no, that's not true, in
fact, cohen asked directly, acknowledging there may have been a conversation on pardons? >> fred, there's definitely a problem for somebody here. there are three theories of the case. the president's tweet you showed where he says he was directly asked for a pardon, pushing back on cohen. cohen's story you played where he categorically said he wouldn't ask for or accept a pardon. somewhere in the middle the the t -- is lanny davis saying at some point along the way, he may have dangled a pardon, but it was not asked for or accepted by cohen. the challenge for the president, if there are documents showing that the president is making false statements here or that that tweet is false, that perhaps congress or the mueller investigation will bear this out at some future point. the problem for cohen is that he is a convicted felon, he embarked on this tour to say mea
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welcome back. we're learning new details about the spa where patriots owner robert kraft was arrested for allegedly soliciting sex acts. the "miami herald" reports that the spa was owned by a florida woman seen here in a selfie with president trump, and the paper says cindy yang attended a super bowl party with the president just last month. let's bring in kaylee hartung in jupiter, florida. they're reporting that yang donated thousands to trump's campaign since 2017. where does that put this case? >> reporter: fred, president trump has taken more photos with political donors than he could count, certainly shaken more hands than people he could name
but this photo with a woman named lee yang is raising big questions about the relationship between her, president trump, and his good friend robert kraft. her name is lee yang. she goes by cindy. she's been spotted with the who's who of the gop, including the president's sons at mar-a-lago. kellyanne conway at the inauguration. and sarah palin. but it is this selfie yang took with president trump at a super bowl watch party that's raising eyebrows. yang is the former owner of orchids of asia day spa, the massage parlor where florida authorities say they caught robert kae robert kraft on camera paying for oral sex. >> he is charged with the same offenses as the others, and that is soliciting another to commit prostitution. >> reporter: kraft denies any wrongdoing. yang said she sold the spa in
2013. cnn tried but was unable to reach yang for comment. she did speak with the miami herald. >> she didn't answer the question whether sex was happening, she simply told us that she's no longer in the spa business, she doesn't know president trump, and she's planning to move to washington, d.c. >> reporter: it should be noted, yang was not charged in the anti-human trafficking bust that led to misdemeanor charges against kraft and closing of several spas in south florida. the white house declined to comment on yang, but president trump did speak about the charges against kraft. >> well, it is very sad. i was very surprised to see it. he's proclaimed his innocence totally, but i'm very surprised to see it. >> reporter: yang donated upwards of $35,000 to the trump campaign, according to sec filings. she's a self made entrepreneur who according to miami herald showed little political interest before the 2016 election, and that she had not voted in the ten years prior.
so yang's recent political activity seeming to be a new passion of sorts, fred. cnn has learned she contributed $37,000 to president trump's campaign in 2017, another $37,000 in 2018, and the man reported to be her husband contributed $10,000 a year ago. yang is not accused of or charged with wrongdoing, and we know robert kraft is denying he was engaged in any illegal activity, but it is worth mentioning that he will be arraigned on misdemeanor charges he is facing at the end of this month. an attorney can appear in court on his behalf. fred, the bottom line here is the optics of this are raising big questions. >> kaylee hartung in jupiter, florida, thank you so much. the hedge fund manager that gained notoriety by jacking up prices for hiv medications has reportedly been using a cell phone in prison to run a pharmaceutical business.
the bureau of prisons said it launched an investigation into martin shkreli's famously known as pharma bro after "the wall street journal reported the allegations earlier this week. shkreli is currently serving a seven year sentence for defrauding investors. here is polo sandoval with the latest. >> reporter: pharma bro, martin shkreli may still be at it, running his pharmaceutical company from his prison cell in new jersey. thursday, "the wall street journal" reported shkreli was using a contraband cell phone to continue heading the drug company that once earned him the title of most hated man in america. as the ceo of phoenix's ag in 2015, known as turing pharmaceuticals at the time, shkreli surged the price of a life saving drug used to treat aids patients by 5,000%, the price hike sparked public outrage and series of inquiries
that targeted the now disgraced ceo. >> maybe they found one or two broom sticks, but at the end of the day we have been acquitted of the most important charges of the case, and i am delighted to report that. >> reporter: he expects phoenix ag may grow and be worth more than $4 billion by the time he is released. in 2017, shkreli was convicted of defrauding investors, misusing their money, 16 months into a 7 year prison sentence. a statement to cnn, the federal bureau of prisons confirms it is aware of possible violations, writing when there are allegations of misconduct, they are thoroughly investigated and appropriate action is taken if such allegations are proven true. this allegation is currently under investigation. prison officials decline to discuss details of shkreli's confinement, but point out federal inmates are not allowed to possess cell phones.
conviction for such offense could mean an extra year in prison and a fine. that would mean an even stiffer price for shkreli to pay. he was already ordered to forfeit $7.4 million in assets. his criminal attorney declined to comment. mark hash wits who the journal reported was hired by shkreli's company didn't respond to a request for comment. polo sandoval, cnn, new york. still ahead, john kelly calls the president's fight for a border wall, a quote, waste of time. we go inside the tense relationship between president trump and his former chief of staff next. alright, i brought in ensure max protein... to give you the protein you need with less of the sugar you don't. (straining) i'll take that. (cheers) 30 grams of protein and 1 gram of sugar.
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welcome back. former chief of staff john kelly is sounding off about his tenure at the white house and the signature policy of president trump's. in a recent interview at duke university, kelly called his white house job the, i am now quoting, the least enjoyable position he's had, but also the most important one as well. he spoke about immigration and the president's proposed wall at the u.s., mexico border, calling it a waste of money. kelly also disagreed with the president's claims that immigrants crossing illegally are criminals. he said, quoting now, they're overwhelmingly not criminals. eric lutz, contributor for "vanity fair" wrote about kelly's comments. good to see you. was this kelly's opportunity to set the record straight? >> i think in some ways it was. you know, clearly he was considered one of the adults in
the room along with another group of administration officials who was seen as a moderating force on donald trump. this is clearly him breaking with the president. of course, this is after his time in the white house. it would have been interesting to see -- >> not long after. he just departed in january. >> yeah. it is the kind of thing where we've seen multiple former administration officials, former lawmakers criticize the president after the fact or do so anonymously in news reports. you know, it's interesting that that's what keeps happening as opposed to seeing him maybe do that when he's in the white house. >> right. i mean, so not only, you talk about the pattern of people that have left, reince priebus left and wrote about his experience in a book, then the former secretary of state, rex tillerson, while he was secretary of state, he wouldn't say very much about the reported use of the word moron to describe the president.
but then after leaving the state department, he did speak rather candidly in this >> right, and i think it's good to hear because i think it confirms what a lot of people know which is that this president -- >> that's okay. eric, let's hear the sound bite of rex tillerson and what he had to say after leaving his job as secretary of state. >> we are starkly different in our styles. we did not have a common value system. when the president would say here's what i want to do and here's how i want to do it, i'd have to say to him, mr. president, i understand what you want to do but you can't do it that way. it violates the law, it violates treaty, you know. he got really frustrated. i didn't know how to conduct my affairs with him any other way than in a very straight forward fashion. >> so in a rather elegant
manner, eloquent manner, you know, tillerson saw it that way but kelly kind of went for the jugular, didn't he? he really spoke to that marquee topic for the president, the wall, during his campaign. he essentially called it a waste of money and undermined it by saying people overwhelmingly are not criminals. what explains his candor in that manner? >> i think that he's unleashed. he's not within the administration. he's not -- he doesn't have to worry about his post being in jeopardy. he's able to speak a little bit more freely now. of course, he didn't only criticize the president's marquee policy, he also said that he would have worked for hillary clinton who, as we all know, is donald trump's mortal enemy. so a lot of things that i think the president probably doesn't want to hear but again things that would have been interesting to hear when he was actually a member of this administration. >> i shouldn't be treating you like you're a psychologist or
something like that but do you feel like kelly's -- >> i am not. >> his approach was almost like he was sending a message to president trump unlike he was able to do while working as his chief of staff in the white house. >> yeah. >> were you able to hear that? >> oh yeah, i'm sorry. >> that was a question. >> i think that he is -- i think that he is sending a message to donald trump. i wonder how much he actually hears it. in any other administration a former chief of staff criticizing the president this openly, in particular about his marquee issue as you said, that would be huge news. of course in the trump era, the political richter scale is a little different and i'm not sure how this registers with trump or the people who support trump and love when he talks about the wall. sti >> still, it was a fascinating read.
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the husband of white house counsellor kellyanne conway is calling, slamming president trump's rule of law. cnn's tom foreman explains. >> now, if people were to get indicted or not indicted on the basis of whether the president likes them, we wouldn't have a republic. we would have a banana republic. >> >> reporter: he did not use the president's name but in an extremely rare public speaking appearance, george conway tore into donald trump just the same. >> the president has suggested that members of his own justice department should be locked up for investigating the president. >> reporter: conway blasted trump over his ideas on justice, his attacks on freedom of the press. >> that's a problem of a quite different order of magnitude. you can't have a free country with that.
>> reporter: conway has freely attacked the president for a long time despite being married to top trump adviser, kellyanne conway. just this past week, tweeting trump is a fraud and an embarrassment, a liar, a narcissistic sociopathic demagog, referring to the president's repeated unproven claims of being a great student. conway has tagged trump assume kum liar, noting he has never told the truth when there's an opportunity to tell a lie, even offering an arm chair diagnosis, it's pathological, it's an illness. the president has brushed him off before. >> you mean mr. kellyanne conway? >> reporter: suggesting george conway's barbs are meaningless. >> he's just trying to get publicity for himself. >> reporter: kellyanne conway clearly squirms when confronted about differences with her husband, at times suggesting such questions are fundamentally sexist. >> first of all, i would ask you
that if you were a man. >> no, you wouldn't. >> 1,000% i would. >> no, no, no. >> reporter: george conway continues to revel in the role of trump troll in chief. >> i kind of like the fact that you can tweet at rich public officials without fear of retribution in the courts. >> reporter: remember, this is no liberal but a staunch conservative who says he has to speak up because he feels the rule of law is being so damaged by the trump administration. and speak up he surely did. tom foreman, cnn, washington. hello again, everyone. thank you for being with me this saturday. i'm fredricka whitfield. we begin in venezuela where embattled president nicolas maduro is firing off a warning to the u.s., saying any, quote, imperial aggression will be met with what he called a strong response.