tv The Van Jones Show CNN March 9, 2019 4:00pm-5:00pm PST
♪ good evening. i'm van jones. welcome to "the van jones show." thank you for tuning in. in a bit, i will show you my full report from the biggest conservative gathering in the country. it's true, liberal van jones went to cpac. i walked around, talked to people. i even got up on the main stage and may have broken twitter at one point. more on that later. first, you have a rowdy crop of newly elected democrats shaking up everything in consequence, but they're not all exactly on the same page. we're good going to talk to a
cross-sample to get to deeper insight about what is actually going on. for the first couple weeks in congress, you know, it was easy for them. they were united, they looked great, going up against the trump shutdown. now we're dealing with a bunch of complicated polarizing issues. it turns out conducting a thorough investigation of the trump administration becomes harder for democrats when some are already shout fog impeachment before they even got started. working to clean up the environment or fix a broken health care system gets complicated when you have proposals getting rushed out that some are already denouncing as socialism. as we found on the this week, democrats strongly denouncing, calling out stereotyping becomes more complicated when the controversial words are coming from a democratic congresswoman and not from donald trump or steve king. i applaud the democrats for ultimately forcing a big vote condemning hatred and bigotry.
i'm a little concerned about the 23 republicans who voted no on that resolution, but i think it's fair to say that democrats are finding out white diversity is awesome, wrangling opinions into a cohesive party is very, very difficult. on the positive side, i'm happy some progress is being made. you have house democrats all right passed meaningful legislation on common-sense gun violence prevention, pushing to expand voting rights, and they are keeping the spotlight on those shameful family separations. we need answers on that. that crisis is still going forward. let's not forget those babies. but we've got some big issues to deal with. the one group that's gots to sort all of this stuff out, all these newcomers in congress who are in the middle of all this confusion, trying to do the right thing, so let's bring them out and see what they have to say. please welcome to the van jones show abigail spanberger from
virginia, rho khanna, and debby haulland. well ccome to the show. look at this. you guys look amazing. you look so beautiful, like the rainbow coalition. i think the country is excited about this new energy, new diversity? you've got so many different issues and camps going on. tell the truth. is it good to have this much diversity? >> we represent demographics that are existing in the country. this is what democracy looks like. >> and people who have never had a voice in our politics before. that's the most important part. >> you're one of first
native-americans ever elected to the congress. give a round of applause for that. well, i know there's a good part to it, but also when you have that many kind of people, you have different kinds of opinions. this past week, you had a big controversy when it could imto representative omar. her comments took a big vote this people. how many people felt that the resolution you voted on denouncing hatred and bigotry would have been better if it was focused on the anti-jewish part? you're getting criticized for making the resolution too big. does anyone great on that criticism? >> hate is hate. >> you know, we're not talking about the positive of this class. rashida and andy leaven were both in michigan, running on their peace plan for the middle
east. our diversity will be ultimately a huge source of strength as we're going to hear perspectives that will make our foreign policy more empathetic, more informed. they're freshmen, they're going to grow. it's the first three months in office. >> i hope we don't change. i hope this freshman class doesn't change. we bring the perspective that's been missing, the conversations we're as a rule, but the conversations aren't being elevated. >> it's good to shake up the conversation. you actually had some words with speaker pelosi, i understand, as you're -- see, i do my research. talk about that. what was that conversation about, from your point of view when it comes to this weeks's challenges. >> i had questions. i had questions about the resolution, about the process -- not the content, but the process by which we got there. i raised the fact that, as a
member of congress, because i got elected. the people in my district sent me to congress to represent them. as a member of congress i should not get news so critically important to the work i have to do, from cable television. we have to do better than that. we have to have a space where people can have some input, have some dialogue, have open conversation, so when my phone is ringing and my constituents are answering, i have an answer better than "i haven't read it." the idea of state quiet in your first time -- i'm only guaranteed one person. people elected me, and i have work to do. >> i think jahana's point is exactly right. i took a seat that hasn't elected a democrat in 50 years. i'm here to serve central virginia now and act on behalf of central virginians now, and to ro's point, we want to be
working for something. last week we had an indribble first step forward, a bipartisan bill that had been stuck in committee for years. we finally did it. we passed it. >> i know a lot more positive stuff happens than ever gets on the news. that's true with your delegation, but you had donald trump saying the democratic party is an anti-jewish party. >> let me speak to that. i'm from virginia where we had nazis walking in the streets shouting anti-semitic slurs with tiki torches in their hands, threatening people who live in central virginia, threatening americans. anti-semitic shouting. this is very clear, in our district, we have had vandalism on our community centers, where children are at camp and daycare, anti-semitic slurs. it's happened throughout
virginia. this is incredibly, incredibly serious, and i think everyone understands how incredibly serious this is. we have to be forceful and strong when we're denouncing anti-semitism. it's corrosive and poisonous, and we recognize as a party in addition to calling it out wherever we see it, whoever speakses to words, we also recognize that all forms of hate are corrosive and eat away at our communities and our society. >> and let's look at the results. because of jahana and other interventions we had a unan miss vote of the caucus. the only people who voted against it were 23 republicans, partial they think that anticement activity or islamophobia are fine. yes, there were disagreements. one of the results we made sure that ilhan omar wasn't personally named. that's healthy. you want to have a conversation,
but you look at the results. i don't think what ilhan said was appropriate. she apologized and said we should move on. steve king has had a lifetime of racism, ilhan omar is not anti-semitic. anyone who knows her knows that about her. she wants to listen, to have dialogue, she's sensitive to that. the only people making these moral comparisons are the republicans, who aren't even willing to vote for a clean resolution to condemn anti-semitism or islamophobia. >> one of the things i see happening with this class, these are the types of conversations in my community already. i had people calling my office, ringing all day, we want you to support, we want you not to support, advice from every community on this is how we feel. that's what my district looks like. >> not new for you. >> not new for me.
so by diversifying the consequence we're introducing the conversations we're having in our communities. let's move on. as much as trump is coming after democrats, democrats are coming after trump as well. what's the plan here? you want to get like 81 people, dozens of people like to come and testify? you're trying to get thousands of documents? is this presidential harassment? >> in congress we have a responsibility to legislate, to govern and a responsibility, a constitutional responsibility for overhight. >> americans have been wanting the congress to do something about in oversight for a long time, since the president was elected. the republicans refused. now that we have the majority in the house, we're doing what the american people sent us to congress to do. it's not presidential harassment, it is, like abigail said, it's our duty.
>> americans deserve the truth. no matter what comes out of the investigations -- i sit on judiciary, so there's a lot that's coming before, and i'm sure you've heard the chairman sea we're going to be asking lots of questions to lots of individuals. the american people deserve the truth. that is our responsibility, with congressional oversite, so find the truth, no matter what it is. >> let me ask this question -- who here has seen enough truth to be ready for impeachment right now. nobody? >> i'm waiting personally for the results of the investigation, and i believe through all these conversations, it's not about donald trump. this is the office of the president. this is upholding the constitution. if this were barack obama and we had seen everything we're seeing, i would want some answers. i would want the yew dishary and
congressman adler demand we get this information. it doesn't matter the person. >> what do you think about representative that lilib. >> she ran on that platform. >> i think you know we're highly opinionated, but each and every one of us have decided what we believe is important. impeachment is a very serious process, and it's not to be taken lightly. no one want to be able to say in the united states of america, we're going forward to impeach the president, the commander in chief. those not what we want to have to do, so we have to weigh very critically and balance very critically the information that's being put forth. we have to be able to substantiate it if it is to be, we deserve to make sure we're finding the truth. it's a responsibility. >> but there are people in this country who want impeachment. those people elected
representatives who felt the same way. so congresswoman talib has unapologetic. she was crystal clear through the campaign. >> she ran on it. >> people elected hers so she's carrying forth the people in the district district that he republicans. >> i never thought the think i would miss most about president obama was he wasn't surrounded by people who were indicted. >> that seems to trivial now. >> look, up next we'll be talking about 2020, and what issues will determine who gets the democratic party's nomination the next time. who does this group want to see on the ticket. stay tuned and find out when we get back. life isn't a straight line. things happen. and sometimes you can find yourself heading in a new direction. but at fidelity, we help you prepare for the unexpected
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welcome back to "the van jones show." i'm here with this great group of house democrats. give them another round of applau applause. [ applause ] let's get down to it. i want to get to 2020. you're already on team sanders, and how can you, representing silicon valley, representing all those billionaires -- >> that's exactly why i'm for bernie sanders. he understands the income inequality. a lot of people in silicon vaily understand we have to deal with the wealth divide. he also wants to stop unconstitutional wars. the biggest takeaway from this, is he wants a woman running mate and i say there's four women here who he could work with.
>> silicon valley has a lot of wealthy people. you now have elizabeth warren who wants to break up amazon, break up facebook, break up google. is this the right direction for the democratic party to be going? >> the focus needs to be how do we get people to participate. how do we get more rural america and communities of color. in terms of antitrust enforcement, it has to be on a case by case basis. >> should we break up google? >> it's for the ftc and the justice department to look at the facts. there's certainly places where we need to look at. do you waze to no longer tell you there's an accident on google maps? there's no doubt in my mind they have done an extraordinary amount of good for the country and the world. that said, there have been excesses, excesses with foreign
interference, excesses of hate speech, there have been excesses on privacy issues. >> let me ask you for a show of hands on some of these issues i think will be important. who here is for medicare for all? three. not you two. green new deal. who is here for the green new deal? and not you? oh, that looks like a split to me. >> it's not that i'm not for it. there's just certain parts of it that i believe we need to weigh. so my team and i are still considering it. i am for clean, renewable energy and infrastructure like that within the atlanta metropolitan area. truth me, i'm in an area that suffering economically and also, you know, with the climate there. it's not that i'm not for it. we're just still weighing. >> but none of us are naive. as a resolution, it has everything.
i'm for -- we need to do something about it, something meaningful, and begin to work on this challenge. i know we won't be in ten years emission-free, so it has to be broken apart. >> from my perspective, what we have in common is a shared set of observations and things that we want to change. i think we can all agree that the fact that there are americans who are choosing between putting food on the table and taking their kids to the doctor is horrific and something we need to change. people are rationing their medicine for their chronic diseases, because they can't afford their prescription drugs. the approach and ideas of how we address those problems, that's what varies. i support a public option. i support a bill that creates a public option that allows people to buy into a med dare-like program. >> at the end of the day we really are responsible to our constituents, the people that
put us in office. i know in particular with health care, you know, i'm a two-time breast cancer survivor. so i have a lot of people in my district, a lot of children with preexisting conditions, so i have to take into consideration what they're asking of me. >> what are they asking of you? >> they're asking for a public option. >> those of you for medicare for all, who you will you pay for medicare? >> right now if -- when you get medicare -- there's money that's taken out of every single american's check, when they get paid. there's money that goes into medicare/medicaid and whatever else they take taxes for, right? they act look like nobody is paying into anything, and that all this money is just going to be free. first of all, i was not supporting the republican tax plan that put into debt for the tax breaks they gave to the richest people in this country.
i don't think we should be doing that. >> you want to roll those back? >> i think we should make people pay their fair share. >> they should pay their fair share, because that's what goes to pay for things in this country. there's plenty of money to pay for every child to have a public education, for everyone to have health care, but we just blow the money in so many ways that shouldn't be blown. >> we're talking about issues, and we're getting nuanced, but a lot of this will come down to demographics. you have a chance for a woman, for a person of color, for all these different things. what is the role in 2020. is it time for us to have a woman? forget joe biden, do we need a woman? i want to hear from you. >> i would never vote for someone just because of their gender. i would love to see a female president, but if we didn't have a good woman, i wouldn't want to put forth -- >> we have four our five --
>> fortunately we do. i think cam lahar harris is whipsmart. she's asking the questions i wanted to know the answers to. she was measured, tempered. i'm excited about this. >> i haired a low-key kamala endorsement. i'm not going to push it. what about biden. i don't want to dismiss him. there is this dual hunger. on the one hand we want a return to normalcy, and i think he represents that. also people want something new. how does that play out in your district? >> i think when we've had conversation, people start talking about what 2020 is going to look like in our district, and the answer is i have no idea. >> what kind of candidate are you looking for? >> somebody who is focused on moving this country forward. sometimes that's a leap and a crump, and sometimes it's a bit
of a shuffle. i'm looking for someone who will be pragmatic and honest with the american people about what's possible and honest about what it is they're working to achieve. >> more pragmatic than idealistic? >> you can be both. you can be both. you have to believe very, very deeply in what is possible, but you also have to be realistic in order to make progress. >> we're going to have the most talented field i think we've had in decades. with all due respect to john kerry and john edwards, look at that field. this field puts that to shame. this field is talented, it's passiona passionate. we'll have an incredible field and emerge with a strong nominee. >> wish, i wish we could talk more about this stuff, but up next, from gun violence prevention to compare ethics reform, we want to get into the legislation that the democrats are pushing. also, i hear it's like being back in high school.
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democrat democrats. i want to just touch on some personal stuff. you guys ran for very personal reasons, many of you. how does it feel, given what happened in your family with gun violence to have that vote on the house floor? >> it is something i never expected i would ever have the ability to help usher in the very policies that i had been working on as an advocate, sitting on the other side of the dais and the markups, and the judiciary hearings, to help usher through that very policy. closing the charleston loophole. it was very bittersweet. i know that not only did i have a great loss, unthe culture of gun violence, but there were so many other like me depends and waiting for years on some
sensible legislation put forth to keep us safe. >> i think your son cannot be honored more about what you have done. just another round of applause. you got a chance to be the first native-american woman to ever speak in the speaker's chair when you were doing the voting rights piece. talk about that? >> well, of course voting rights is dear to me. i'm an organizer. i've done that close to the last 20 years in my stiff new mexico, getting out underrepresented communities, getting them registered to vote. native-americans couldn't vote in new mexico until 1948. there have been indians tribes across our country who haven't been able to vote since -- or until 1965, and look, we're
still fighting that. in in this last election there was voter oppression with people of color. in georgia, in kansas, in florida, it's a travesty. we have to put a stop to it. i am passionate about this issue. i got to be in the speaker's chair again when my colleague john lewis came to speak on the full bill hr-1. >> we all came here for reasons that were deeply personal. i'm an educator. in the first two weeks of committee assignments we raised minimum wage voted out of committee a school infrastructure bill, paycheck fairness, voted out of commit year. i was a part of that. next week i'm going to put forth a bill that says we will not use federal funds to arm teachers. that was my absolute. i was willing to lose the election over that.
>> beautiful. and you're on the cover of "rolling stone" magazine. >> and then there's that. so, that's amazing. now you're a legitimate rock star. >> one of my students tweeted my tenth grate teacher is on the cover of "rolling stone." >> we laugh and joke, but what does it mean for other young women. you were 17 years old, you were homeless, you had a baby to deal with. what does it mean for people in those circumstances for you to be where you are right now. >> it means everything. i'm from the state of connecticut. i'm the first african-american woman to represent the state of connecticut. there's so much power and shame in that sentence. i'm the other side of it. i'm the promise of who could happen. i'm what i've told kids, if you do this, if you are steadfast,
if you work hard. you can work your way out of your situation. but i also recognize that life happens. this idea of all you have to do is work hard, it's a misnomer. i have to remind my colleagues of that every single day. we need access to opportunities, and as long as i hold the seat, i'm going to make sure no kid has to face the challenges that i faced. >> that's beautiful. you know, you also are here for personal reasons. you've been part of the military, you're in the gang of nine, is it? >> i learned about this title when i read it in the paper. >> what's it like to be a part of this clique, this camp of military, smart democrats. >> so there's a group of us who our background is in service,
military veterans, two cia folks, we decided to return for office, because we wanted to continue serving. we wanted to be a part of finding the solution. it's a tremendous commonalty. we faced some of the same challenges in congress, the fact that nobody is ever on time, that bothers us. lever will have. >> little things. >> some of us are united over passion, some are united over experience. we can get together with these different groups and move the marker forward and we jump back and forth, and some of groups have names, some don't. >> ro, you're the only one that isn't in a clique that i know of. >> my grandfather spent four years in jail with gandhi, and what i was most proud of was yemen. we passed the first war powers
resolution to stop the saudi bombing in yemen. >> help me understand, though, the squad. is it frustrating to you that these four young women get so much attention when you guys are working just as hard? how does that feel to have the squad? >> let them live. >> we're all working in our own lanes. >> what matters to me is what the people in my district think about the job i'm doing. >> what i love about them -- i was here the previous term. all anyone talked about was the senate. now they're talking about the house. >> when they're talking about these women's, they're talking about the excitement being generated, that we are willing to step up and critically just get some stuff done. >> they're also talking about
socialism? are they a gift to fox news? will it hurt the democratic party going forward? how do you deal with it? >> i have had to say i'm not a socialist. >> they called barack obama a socialist, hillary clinton a socialist. they called you a socialist, f.r.r. a socialist? at some point it's not going to work. >> listen, you talk about opening up opportunities. i appreciate you opening up your hearts to your constituents, to the american people and the folks here at the "the van jones store." thank you for being here. coming up, i went to the biggest conservative on meeting. i'm going to take you behind the scenes, when we come back. [farmers bell]
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intimidating to walk into a massive conference of my political opponents, but i saw an opportunity to engage with people there with an open heart and mind, so take a look. ♪ >> i'm always saying we've got to get out of our camps, out of our bubbles and talk to each other, so i am walking the talk at cpac, which is the businessest gathering in the country, and i'm going to talk to a bunch of people here. we'll see how it goes. you're young folks, a lot of young people. they're moving toward aoc, toward bernie. how do you stand up to that tidal wave? >> i think we're doing things with outreach.
>> nearly 10,000 people here at cpac. the republicans in congress are mostly white men, but the crowd here spans the spectrum of age, race,e necessity and -- why do you like donald trump so much. >> he's true. there's a lot of immigrants made in this country, they don't want those people to come here and take advantage. >> why are the conservatives doing so badly in recruiting women candidates? >> i think republicans are open to women. we have carly fiorina, sarah palin running. i didn't look at hillary clinton
as a woman, i viewed her as a politics. they don't need to push people to tokenize them. i want to be viewed as a person. >> i was mostly received with well wishes and words of support. still political tensions are high, and a couple people are not so happy to see me. >> you still think the election was a whitewash, do you think we're all a bunch of racists? >> do you want an answer or not? >> i asked you, yes. >> here's my answer. i in part it was. it's a part of your coalition that -- >> my coalition, don't you include me with this coalition that you think we are. very good. >> that's wrong. >> no big surprise here, but most people at cpac do not blame trump for the divisiveness that now characterizes our politics. >> it's started sim obama's president sin, since trayvon
martin. >> what do you think about the black lives matter and all that stuff. >> there's two sides of the story. you have to think about what law enforcement are going through as well. families of i.c.e. and border patrol are being threatened. everyone has a role to play. >> what do you think you are can do to bring people together while you're wearing that hat. how does wearing that hat going to bring people together? >> well, my experience, i mean, i can't even walk down the street with it back home. i'm from boston. i get yelled ate, stuff thrown at me. i can't walk into the store without getting ridiculed. if somebody wearing a hillary clinton hat, i wouldn't flip over. >> do you understand why, if you were, you know, from a community where, you know, trump has a
incites, that it might be offensive? suppose your cousin is an undocumented immigrant, can you see how that hat may seem like a middle finger from you? >> if you're an undocumented immigrant, i honestly understand why you don't like trump conservatives are watching pretty closely. >> i tell you, i -- that crapola going on up here with the last few hearings, po's me. >> why? >> they're wall streeting time instead of getting the infrastructure, so we can get the bootstrap done. >> you're mad that michael cohen there. aren't you outraged by what he's saying? >> i am, but.
>> then why don't the conservatives turn on the president? >> i don't believe him for one. if i do believe parts of it. i think it's very shaded. i'm looking -- and he fits pretty good, with all the stuff against him, with all the negative stuff, he's done a good job on the issues i care about. >> as you know, wherever i am, i look to build bridges. >> do you think that climate change is real and caused by human activity? >> yes. >> what are you doing in the
conservative party? >> well, i think our answers could be better, because i think the market and better incentives and limited government could be helpful if we actually proposed that. that fits economically and that's what i'm looking to do. >> man, where have you been my whole life? >> new orleans saint linebacker demario davis is also here to speak on criminal justice. >> we have a huge issue in our country with massive incarceration. it's a scary think, we're the 40% of our people in jail are there on a pretrial basis, meaning they have not been convicted of a crime. that's a tragedy in itself. we've got to fix that. >> do you see yourself as more of a conservative or progressive? >> i'm just a person for the people. i grew up in extreme poverty. to be able to make it to the
league and my lifestyle, i can see the good and bad of both worlds. i'm able to speak from a place of understanding. >> they want to replace individual rights with total government domination. while watching this event can at times be disturbing, being here did remind me that not everyone and everything is like what you see on tv. >> very simple. treat each other with respect. we're not doing that, on both sides. we're not doing that. it's a wonderful opportunity for me to talk with you. hopefully people will see us talking and we've come up with some solutions already. >> let's keep doing it. i appreciate you. and now you may have heard the part of my speech caused a bit of controversy. i usually don't respond to stuff like that, but i will when we get back. see you in a minute. ♪
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i ran into this problem myself last week when i praised conservatives who are finally embracing criminal justice reform and i think i broke twitter, okay? you would have thought i said i was joining the clan based on the response. what he is thinking? i was thinking about the pain of 2 million people locked up in u.s. jails and prisons right now, got the biggest prison population in the world and they need champions in both parties. i was thinking about the bad old days in the 1990s when republicans and democrats like bill clinton, hillary clinton, joe biden were all cheerleading for building and filling up more prisons. don't believe the lie, by the way, at the start of the prison boom that all the conservatives were for the prisons and the liberals were against the prisons. that's not true. the democratic party supported the 1994 clinton crime bill. three strikes and you're out and many other mass incarceration policies. the first convention where
democrats finally adopted a major criminal justice reform plank was 2016, okay? so don't believe the hype. i was also thinking about the fact that both parties have finally started getting smarter and doing better. even in red states, like texas, mississippi, georgia, republican governors have realized that prisons cost too much money, gobble up too many rights and violate christian values of redemption and second chances. last year, the republican congress passed and donald trump signed into law a major criminal justice bill, the first step act and i worked on that personally and saw with my own eyes many conservatives actually waking up and starting to get it. so i'm happy about that and with a little humor and hyperbole, i said this at the conference. >> the conservative movement in this country, unfortunately, from my point of view, is now the leader on this issue of reform. my problem is i now have a
conservative movement that, for libertarian reasons, for christian conservative reasons and for fiscally conservative reasons is actually doing a great job on what should be my issue. some hyperbole there but good to acknowledge the good, encourage them to keep moving forward. here is what i was not thinking about. i was not thinking about the impact of my words to conservatives on the liberals. the republicans have been so terrible on so many things including snatching babies from mothers at the border, everything else, that any praise over here can feel like a betrayal over there. and republicans also, they're not the only ones righting the wrongs of criminal justice. far from it. black lives matter, families against mandatory minimums, aclu, leadership conference on rights, so many groups fighting hard for years and now practically every democratic candidate backs reform.
even the clintons apologize. no one side is the leader and honestly, we should probably stop talking about sides anyway on this. the rise of the incarceration industry is not a democratic tragedy. it's not a republican tragedy. it's an american tragedy and fixing it should not be about right versus left. it should be about right versus wrong. to everybody in both parties working hard to make a difference, i see you. let's stick together. let's pass more bills and let's get more people free. i'm van jones. this is the van jones show. peace and love for one another. lobsterfest is on at red lobster with the most lobster dishes of the year like lobster lover's dream and new ultimate lobsterfest surf and turf. so come lobsterfest today! and now for a limited time, get ten percent off red lobster to go. guys go through a lot to deal with shave irritation. so, we built the new gillette skinguard with a specialized guard designed to reduce it. because we believe all men deserve a razor just for them.
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