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i'm calling geico right now. cell phone? it's ringing. get to know geico and see how much you could save on homeowners and condo insurance. hey, everybody. i'm dana bash in for brianna keilar today live from cnn washington's headquarters. under way right now, some republicans see it as a power grab. the president sees it as a loyalty test. why the senate moments from now is set to embarrass the white house. he may have the personality and the pageantry, but does beto o'rourke back the right policies? the 2020 race takes a new turn. plus two stanford students suing over the rich and famous cheating to get their children into college. and new questions about
whether the u.s. waited to ground the boeings involved in two deadly crashes to protect an american company. and we start right now. you see what's going on on the senate floor. we're moments away from a key vote. senators are preparing to vote this hour on a resolution against president trump and his national emergency declaration on border security. to be clear, this is all about the wall and about the president's thought to run around congress to get the wall funding he was denied, but what we expect is a rare rebuke of the president by not just democrats but fellow republicans even as he threatens to issue his first veto of his presidency, a threat he repeated just a short time ago. >> if we had a proper wall, which we're building now as we speak, and we're getting a lot more funding of it as you know in what we're talking about in the vote today, whether it's
positive or not. i'm vetoing it unless i don't have to. i'll do a veto. it's not going to be overturned. >> we've got coverage on both ends of pennsylvania avenue. abby phillip is at the white house. sunland on capitol hill. sun land, let's start with you. republicans are coming out in the past couple of days, teen past couple of hours and said they're going to vote against the president and for the constitution. where do things stand. >> that's right. they've announceward they've decided to vote. we now know that eight republican senators will vote with this resolution, in essence against president. the new names all coming out in the last few hours saying they'll vote against the president on this.
it means they have enough numbers to push him. there has been something of a last-minute scramble on capitol hill. that's not a scramble to save this vote. it's just essentially a scramble to minimize the embarrassment on the white house and to minimize the public deflections here. senator lindsey graham and a few other republicans went to the white house last night. they barged in, according to senator lindsey graham, during a dinner with president trump and made some last-minute hail mary pitch to president trump to try to save this vote and lower those deflections including senator graham telling president trump he should potentially try to save mike lee's resolution that would limit the president's thought over future national emergency declarations. here's senator graham this morning. >> i don't expect you to give up any powers, mr. president, that you think is necessary, but if you could find a way to sit down and bridge the gap here
perspectively, it would be in everybody's interest. >> and senator graham saying if president trump was open to changes, that would certainly minimize the defections in his words dramatically. we're pushing it for 2:15. we'll see the final numbers. we know enough are voting against president trump on this one to send the bill to his desk. >> it's now 2:15 eastern. we'll be watching for that. sunlen, thanks. let's get straight to abby. sunlen has described it as a loyalty test. at least that's how the white house is looking at this. abby, what can you tell us about that? >> that's exactly the way the white house is looking at it because this is about whether president trump is right on a major signature issue for him. the white house has been scrambling over the last several days to figure out how they can get more republicans to not vote for this resolution. they've tried a number of
things. a lot of hand twisting and things from mike pence who was on the hill who delivered a stark message that a vote for this resolution is a vote against president trump, a vote against border security. none of that has seemed to work. even this morning president trump in a series of tweets seemed to reverse himself on that very issue that lindsey graham was talking about on the hill. he seemed to suggest he would sep something that would restrict things in the future would be leave things alone in exchange for republicans standing with him on this vote. all of this could be very little too late and just an hour before the vote happens. the white house is expecting about a dozen defections here. that's a major repudiation of the president. they had hoped for a lot less, but it looks like it's going to be as bad as it could be. given that there are eight senators at this point, there are likely to be more.
>> abby phillip and sunlen serfaty, thank you. we don't know what the exact number will be. abby talked about the fact that eight republicans talked so far they're going to vote against the president. joining me now is somebody who has not declared, louisiana senator bill cassidy. the first question is you're going to have to kast the vote within the hour. what say you? >> i'm going to vote to secure the southern border and vote in a way that's compatible with the constitution. i think the way you set up the story is for or against the president. i think you're arguing that it's for the president. i would argue it's for the southern border, current with the constitution and the legal statute. >> so are you going to vote for this resolution. >> no. i shallow pose the resolution, and, again, as i just described for those reasons. >> i'll just give you one example of what your republican colleagues who are voting for
this resolution which essentially means against what the president did with his executive power. mitt romney, for example. here's what he said. for the executive brap. to override a law passed by congress would make it the ultimate power rather than a balancing power. he went on to say i'm seriously kved overreach by the executive branch is an inhave iation to further expand an abuse by future presidents. does he have a point. >> i don't particularly care for that. a previous congress by statute gave the president the ability to declare a national emergency. there's wide latitude as to what that would be. also in times past it's given the president the ability to move dollars from one pot of money to another. if congress wishes that not to happen, the congress would say no more of this would be allocated. that was not done in this case. we can either say it's been done in times past in accordance with
the statute that congress has pass and so, therefore, this is an overreach or we can say, hmm, we may not like it, but it's allowed by law, it was done before, and congress did not put in the safeguards. >> so senator romney and others of your colleagues who agree with him are saying this is a case that's different because, the argument goes, this was a bipartisan discussion/deal in congress, legislation was passed. the president signed it and the president said never mind, i'm going to go my own way. that's why they think he's -- that it's executive reach. put it this way. i doerchl care if the way this played out. it's a different question whether it's constitutional, which it is. whether it complies with law, which it is. now, let's work on the form of
restricting national emergencies and shifting funds around in the future. i agree with that and lindsey graham spoke of that as well. to say it's not compliant with the statute or not consistent with precedent, that is wrong. >> you talked about potentially changing the law. there's been a bit of chaos about that in the last 24 hours. i know that your colleagues, including lead by senator mike lee has been trying to do that. the president tweeted he's open to congress rewriting the law that allows for this national emergency declaration and others, but before he said the opposite. so what do you think his stance is in real, senator. >> i think congress should handle this through regular order. it should go through committee, members of both parties even though it's constitutional legal and addresses a significant problem, which is the crisis at the border. go through the regular order and see if the status quo is
appropriate. i would like that tightening of the law, but on the other hand it's different than saying what he's doing now is not defensible when it is. >> one last question. assuming regular order does not happen, you're not able to change this. go down the road and this democratic president does something almost exactly like what donald trump just did. will you stay silent? >> well, it depends. put it this way. if what he or she is doing is constitutional, it is according to the law, it will be legal, constitutional, and a national emergency. i personally think what's happened with the southern border, 60 though americans a year are dying from drugs. much that comes across the border is a crisis. we'll have to determine in the
future as to whether we agree the so-called emergency is an emergency, but i agree it's an emergency. >> okay. senator bill kennedy announcing you will, in fact, vote -- i noenl you don't like it, but it's a way to better understand it, with the president. thank you so much for joining me. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> as the pr's former cam main manager, he guess some news. why did it take so long? the pr says boeing has to figure it out first. and beto o'rourke is running for president, but back when he was running for senate in texas, i asked him about a white house bid in a cnn town hall. here he was in october, just five months ago. >> do you see yourself one day running for president of the
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add another name to the long list of democrats running for president. beto o'rourke rose to political stardom during his campaign against republican senator ted cruz. o'rourke lost that by less than 3 percentage points but raised a record $80 million along the way from donors all over the country, donors he hopes will turn into supporters for his presidential bid now. he's the 13th major candidate to
officially announce a presidential run or an exploratory committee. among those still considering whether to run, former vice president joe biden. democrats sate's all but certain biden will get into the race. as for beto o'rourke he kicked off his campaign race with a three-day swing through iowa. he was asked about the crowded democratic field. >> every single democrat running today -- and i may not be able to enumerate every single one of them right now -- would be far better than the current occupant of the white house. let's remember that each one of us at the end of this once we have a nominee will be on the same team. it doesn't matter whose team you are on today. it doesn't matter which perspective nominee that you back right now. ultimately we all have to get on board the same person because it is fundamental to our chances of success that we defeat donald
trump in 2020. >> troy price is the chairman of the iowa democratic party. thanks so much for joining me on what is already a very, very busy political day, and it will only get busier, i know, for you. i want to start by showing our viewers a snapshot of where things stand. take a look at the latest "des moines register" poll out this weekend. joe biden and bernie sanders way out ahead elizabeth warren, camela harris, and beto o'rourke at 5%. how does his entry impact the race in iowa? >> well, at this point the race is still very much up in the air. we're still very much in the courtship phase with caucusgoers right now. people out there are wanting to kick the tires a little bit. they want to get to know the
candidates, they want to hear the vision and make sure the candidates are listening to them and listening to the issues important to them out in iowa. you know, we're still early in this process and whether we welcome congressman o'rourke to the race and if anyone else hopes to jump in, we welcome them as well. it's going to be a really exciting year ahead of us. >> you mention the issues. o'rourke is on the moderate democratic side. a voter asked about medicare for all. listen to what he said. >> can you explain how medicare for all could benefit texans? >> it could be medicare for all or another guaranteed high health care system or employer-based who can purchase into medicaid or medicare. there are many roads that will get us there. >> how is that going to play with caucusgoers especially given the fact that i think it's fair to say the majority of the
candidates that they have to pick from right now -- and there are a lot -- are all in on medicare for all. >> well, there's a lot of issues that people are caring about here. obviously medicare for all is one we hear a lot from caucusgoers on the road, but i think people really want someone who's going to bible to fight for and be able to provide health care, and so that's part of the health care that people deserve. you know, we saw the trump budget this week with the -- the cruel budget with its 1 trillion dollar cuts to medicare and medicaid. what people want is to make sure americans have access to the health care they deserve. again, we're still early in the process. we know ideas are going to change, people are going to roll out new policies and different policies. medicare for all didn't even exist four years ago in this caucus process.
>> that's right. >> we still have a lot of time yet and voters are going to do their job, a job we take so seriously here, to talk to these kents and hear their visions for the future. >> one of the declared candidates, declared before today, cory booker, his team responded to o'rourke's entry into the race sort of, and i want to show you what his director of communication tweeted. want to vote for a candidate who has dedicated his life to social change and improving his community and who has also run a major city? i've got the candidate for you. #teamcory. what do you make of that? >> i think it's going to be a very spirited caucus season. i agree with what congress said. democrats are behind the idea of making sure we see real change in washington. you know, this last year in our
2018 elections democrats beat republicans by almost four points on the federal ballot when you take all of our congressional districts together. so when you see that, people are hungry for change. they want someone who's going to provide that change out in washington. regardless of how that plays out and, of course, here in iowa, we stay completely neutral, but regardless of who emerges from the process, i know the democrats are going to be behind making sure we defeat donald trump, defeat the gop agenda, and have some real leader back in washington who are going to fight for us. >> since i have you on and i'm a political nerd, you mention it's a crowded field and you welcome people into the crowded field, is it of concern that the more in the field the more splintered it will be and the more likely the person who emerges will be the front-runner? meaning are you going to potentially give up your status of being the kingmaker or
queenmaker as it may be? >> the role that we've always played in iowa is to help win the field. we don't decide the race here. we've never wanted to decide the race. through the retail politics, going to the coffee shops and having those conversations, you know, we test candidates, hear their vision and there's always that old adage there's three tickets out of a. there may be more tickets this year, more candidates running, but iowan take their role very seriously. we make sure we have a transparent and successful kaku was process. we think it's going to be a great year for our country. >> troy price, thanks so much for joining us. good luck out in iowa. >> thank you. up next, with many of boeing's max jets remaining grounded after two deadly crashes, president trump says the company had better figure it out fast.
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associate was in court facing the same judge. this time it was roger stone who was expected to have to answer for possible breach to a gag order because he released his book, but the judge amy jackson berman put it on the back burner saying she wasn't ready to address his book. what she did do is set november 5th as the trial date for stone's trial. she says she expects it to last about two weeks. and now to the investigation on the latest ethiopian air flight crash. the flight recorders from the 737 max-8 plane are now at the headquarters. it comes one day after the u.s. looked at new data. earlier the acting head of the faa was asked if he thought there might be a similar cause for the lion air crash in october, and this weekend's ethiopian air crash.
>> we're that much closer to the possibility, and that's why we grounded the airplanes. we got new information yesterday, and we acted on it. and it is in our minds now a link that is close enough to ground the airplanes. >> joining me now is former u.s. secretary of transportation ray lahood who served under president obama. thanks so much for joining me. you heard the acting an min straighter daniel elwell. he said it takes more than guts to ground a fleet. but there were more than these similarities some of why was the u.s. the last major nation to ground this boeing model? >> you know, i don't know, dana, but i agri with what he said. it takes more than a gut reaction. after two crashes and people being killed including seven americans perished in the last crash, that's more than a gut
reaction. that should -- the immediate reaction when the ethiopian crash occurred and seven americans perished was ground those planes. let's find out what's wrong with them. so, you know, the idea that, you know, it's more than a gut reaction, my gosh, when you have people perish in a plane and it's the second one, you should -- they would have immediately grounded those planes. look it. we didn't mess around when we were at d.o.t. and the dreamliner was having these batteries catch fire in the hulls of the planes. we grounded the planes. was it a pleasant decision? of course, not. i talked to the ceo of boeing, and it wasn't a pleasant conversation. and i talked to the administr e administrator of the faa. but in the end the american people and the flying public want 100% assurance that the planes they get on are safe. that is the number one obligation of d.o.t., safety.
>> do you think there's any question they would have been grounded sooner, even immediately, had any of these crashes happened in the u.s.? >> well, that i don't know, dana. that should not be the standard though. the standard should be when there are crashes like this and these are new planes and there's questions about the technology and questions about, you know, the newness of the plane and whether the pilots were properly trained or not, and all of that has really come out. it shouldn't matter where it takes place. what should matter is that if these planes aren't functioning right, they should be grounded and inspected. >> you said when you were serving as transportation secretary you had to have a very difficult conversation with the head of boeing. it's a big american company, the second largest defensive contractor. how much did that play into
grounding these planes. >> i don't know. i hope it didn't have anything to do with it. i give president trump credit on this. he made the call yesterday. he made the decision. i blue everybody he made the decision based on safety and based on the idea that the plane should be grounded and inspected, notwithstanding anything else he might have said. he did make the right decision, a decision he should have made a few days earlier after the ethiopian crash. i think he gets it. he owns his own plane. obviously he knows about safety. at one time he bought a fleet of planes and was going to design his own airplane. he knows safety is number one. i think he really got it and made the decision. it was a good decision, and i congratulate the president for doing that. >> what now based on your experience. >> what now, there's going to be a little bit confusion, some scheduling changes, planes are going to be grounded.
but what's going to happen is what happened after the dreamliner. the planes were inspected, changes were made, solutions were found, and there's no more fire in the hull of these dreamliners, and that's a good thing for boeing. once these planes are inspected by faa safety inspectors and boeing safety inspectors working together, this will be an opportunity for boeing to tell the american public these planes are 100% safe. it's going to take a little time. there's going to be a little confusion. but you know what? this discomfort to the flying public is worth it because the discomfort of getting on a plane that they're not sure is safe is a lot more troubling. >> you can say that again. former traipse about poration secretary, former congressman, how i dot to know you, ray lahood. thanks so much for joining me. i appreciate it that thank you, dana. more on our breaking news right now. you see the senate floor drama
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vote, condemning the national emergency declaration on the border that moves money from other parts of the government to fund the border wall. it's expected to pass with support from several republican senators. the president said he will veto it. it will be his first veto of his presidency. i'm going to speak more about this with north dakota republican senator cramer. thanks for speaking with me. you're voting against this resolution of disapproval. why? >> first of all, dana, thank you for the opportunity. i'm voting against the resolution because i agree with the policy. i think there is an emergency, a crisis at the border, it requires more money than we appropriated, and furthermore, when the president announced his support or he would sign the appropriations bill that only put up $1.375 billion for additional border security, he also announced he would be declaring a national emergency.
it's not a matter of loyalty to the president but to the policies i agree with. >> if this were a democratic president, give me some north dakota candor here. if this were a democratic president, oyou wouldn't be saying the same thing. >> a north dakota candidate comes with north dakota common sense. we believe in border security in north dakota. we believe a wall is part of that, and i would support that president. this issue we've been debating has been done 58 times. we're not breaking new ground. i'd like to think i was with the president. if they can make the precedent and the case for the border wall, i would be voting for the wall. >> he has made his case, but he
also said something that seems to fly in the face of it being an emergency when he talked in the rose garden last month. take a listen. >> sure. >> on the wall, they skimped. i was successful in a sense, but i want to do it faster. i could do a t wall over a longer period of time. i didn't need to do this, but i need do this faster. >> he stepped on his own executive order there meaning he could do it in a slower period of time, which means he could do it with congressional approval, with congressionally approved funds. so didn't he just kind of, you know, pull the curtain back to see exactly what's going on here? >> i think what he said is accurate, but he stressed the speed. the speed of getting wall up is directly relational to the
urgency of the moment and the declaration. i think that's part of his candor. he stated everything that's accurate, and some could say it was a conflict. i think it makes the case. >> how much pressure are your republican colleagues who are either on the fence, no pun intended, and those who have already said that they're going to vote against the president in your conference today? >> you know, i suspect they're feeling some. i hope they understand and the president understands this is a legitimate conscience issue. it's a crisis of conscience, and i don't think it's about the -- the wall is not about security. it really is an article over past and current and i hope they're all comfortable with where they are. i also hope we can move forward after this with additional appropriations to make sure the president has both the money and the money on time to adequately secure the border.
>> and one last question. do you also support legislation to change the emergency declaration powers so that this pickle that congress is in, particularly his fellow republicans, doesn't happen again? >> i am, dana, open to that. i'm open to doing something in the future as we move forward. i really didn't like tying that effort to this because i think it misrepresented the legality of what the president is doing. i think we ought to look at a whole bunch of presidential powers and see if the congress can't come back together and claw back and putting authority where it belongs, and that, of course, is in the people's house and the united states senate. >> senator cramer, thanks so much for joining me. >> thanks you for the opportunity, dana. my pleasure. >> thank you. later, he is one of robert mueller's top prosecutors. he's been called the lebron james of money laundering, what
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. beto o'rourke finally made it official today. he is running for president, although his splashy front page spread, the cover of vanity fair photo and all, tipped off his decision just a bit when it was released yesterday. joining me now is cnn senior political reporter nia-malika henderson and michael warren. thank you so much to both of you of the this is so fun.
the producers of this show found some really fascinating comparisons. look at that one. >> yeah. >> beto o'rourke and you remember that guy, his name was john edwards. >> i do vaguely remember him. >> very similar, different magazines but both -- look at ronald reagan. look at the next one. >> yeah, that is -- yeah. >> it's very similar, the hands in the back of the pocket. >> okay. so don't tweet at me, we're not doing splash over substance, we have a lot of substance going on. just on this, this is about imagery and about trying to portray, what? >> you think it's about -- i think it's about -- john kennedy probably understood this first and foremost, the presidency is about image and crafting an image early particularly in a media age when you're just bombarded by images and you want to break-through. this was smart of him to have that photo on the cover of
vanity fa"vanity fair" in that he looks like a plain folk with his dog on a dirt road and maybe a pickup truck. i don't know what that is. it is an -- it isn't obviously necessarily who he is. he's the son of privilege and a former congressman. that image certainly speaks to that. >> and it helps pull the democratic party which has an image now for a lot of voters as a coastal party. he's nowhere near the coast there in el paso. it also provides that image at a time when the biggest attack that he's going to face is that you just lost the last election that you ran in. this sort of almost tries to erase that loss and say -- look at little more aspirational and into the future. >> that's a great word. that's why there's so much buzz around here.
the hope/change. i want to talk about something you wrote about. you wrote about it during the will he or won't he phase when beto o'rourke was driving around and sending instagrams. you wrote about the fact that he -- you call it -- the cover story it was referenced, your story was referenced by his wife amy and here's what the reporter said. amy bristled at a cnn essay that chastised him for taking an excellent adventure while leaving his wife and kids at home. i was a little insulted because it implied that i couldn't support our family. his stream of consciousness posts which amy edited, were mocked on twitter as mean. >> she seemed to misinterpret my
piece. she proves the point. the point of the piece was that, as a white male he had a certain privilege, which is that he could leave and go out on an excellent adventure because his wife was at home and could take care of the kids and a female candidate i don't think could do that without facing all sorts of criticism. i don't think a female candidate would have done it and felt the freedom to do it. that was the point i was making and she says, yes, i was at home to support the kids allowing him to go out on the road and leave the three kids at home. she's going to face -- he's going to face all sorts of criticism. she bristled at that, really? >> there's the bro factor. >> there is the bro factor. >> yes, and michael, you look at that versus, you know, the very large, very diverse, most diverse field in history, how does that play in?
>> i think there's -- there's -- there seems to be a sense that as a white male beto o'rourke's going to have a hard time in a party that is so diverse in a field that is so diverse. i'm not so sure that democratic voters think in those ways. republicans fall in line and democrats fall in love. beto's exactly the type of candidates that democrats want to fall in love with. now whether they will actually do that, that's going to be depended on him. this is something where he's competing with kamala harris and cory booker and bernie sanders, with that fall in love role. he's the perfect candidate for that. we'll see if he actually falls through. >> the electability part, too. maybe a white man might be more electability than a black woman, than a black man. if you look at the polls of the folks leading, all white men, bernie sanders. >> we have to take a break. i'm watching you talk with your hands and watching you talk with
your hands. i talk with my hands. before we go to break, something the president noted about beto o'rourke today. listen. >> i think he's got a lot of hand movement. i've never seen so much hand movement. is he crazy or is that just the way he acts, so i've never seen hand movement. i watched him a little while this morning, doing, i assume it was a news conference and i actually never seen anything quite like it. study it. i'm sure you'll agree. >> we'll let that hang out there. nia, michael, thank you so much. stanford students are the first to sue the elite university's named in the admission scandals. what they want from them next?
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