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a book that you're ready to share with the world? get published now, call for your free publisher kit today! this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. president trump issuing what sounds like a veiled threat of physical violence to people he considers his political opponents. telli telling breitbart news. it's so terrible what's happening, you know, the left plays a tougher game and it's
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very funny. i can tell you i have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the bikers for trump. i have the tough people, but they don't play it tough until they go to a certain point, and then it would be very bad. very bad. those words spoken by the president of the united states. we're going to discuss that in just a moment. but first i want to get to some breaking news. and the breaking news is out of new zealand tonight. police responding to what's being called a serious and evolving situation involving an active shooter. according to local media the incident took place at a mosque, and there are reports of another shooting at a second mosque. police have not confirmed deaths or injuries yet. cnn's law enforcement analyst josh campbell is here to discuss this. so, josh, this is the breaking news right now. what do you know? >> that's right, don, we're hearing reports coming out of new zealand suspected gunmen who walked into a mosque and opened
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fire. we've been talking to local reporters there on the ground reporting there are possibly as much as six casualties right now. that may go higher as there were around 200 people in that mosque when it happened. they're sending word out to local population to shelter in place, remain off the streets. again with these reports coming in there may be a possible additional location of another possible incident, obviously they don't want citizens out in the streets whenever that's happening trying to respond. we know these in these incidents whatever they've happened there's always a state of chaos. there's communication coming into law enforcement from witnesses. we cannot confirm yet there's additional location, but that's the reporting we're receiving right now. we've seen ambulances departing the location at the mosque and going out to hospitals. this is what police are calling a serious critical situation
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involving an active shooter. we also know an active shooter is active until it's not and police have that sense of comfort they neutralize that threat, they're not going to send out the all clear. this is very much an ongoing situation. police have not cept out the all clear. they haven't yet identified the threat and released that information as far as the extent of what's going on, but we'll continue to cover that, don. >> do we know anything about the shooter? >> we've heard reports there may be people involved, and again there's so much that police officers don't know. we did hear reports from an eyewitness on the scene that there was one person on the ground, that this person had described may have been the shooter. we have not confirmed that ourselves. again, unfortunately we've seen so many of these in the united states where we know if the person is neutralized and taken alive, police officers can obviously glean a lot of information as far as what's going on, if they acted alone. if this person is deceased and
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neutralized by authorities by a shootout obviously they don't have that information and not able to conduct that interview. and as far as as eyewitness reports as we continue to get information that police are reporting to authorities there may be additional threats out there, there may be another scene obviously this is situation where police will be on high alert. very much a state of lock down as they try to determine what exactly is going on there. >> again, the breaking news police in christ church, new zealand responding to what is an ongoing incident. and the police commissioner mike bush has announced all christ church schools have been placed into lock down, adding in a statement police urgegon in central christ church to stay off the streets. again, it is a serious situation. i want to bring in now matthew rosenberg and jewuliette kayann.
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>> this building off of what josh was saying you're definitely going to focus on the fact the target was a mosque. obviously we don't know if the members of the mosque or you might have the equivalent of a workplace environment shooting but we do know the mosque will be a focus in whether this was a hate crime. not uncommon in new zealand, and most people might be surprised by that. but also on the public safety side because of some horrible natural disaster incidences in new zealand in particular in the christ church area, this is very, very sophisticated law enforcement management agency. i'm looking at the pictures right now. so you could be pretty confident that their response was quick, and that if they have the person or people who were doing it, we will probably hear from the police i would guess within the next hour -- within your show we will probably hear from them.
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>> we're all learning about what's going on right now, many at the same time. what's your reaction? >> don, speaking as a muslim, it's very muslim's worst nightmare to be attacked while you're in a place of worship. tomorrow hundreds of thousands of americans are going to go to friday prayers. remember the time gap. this was time to be maximum impact when the mosques were full. go back 2017 quebec city, far right inspired by the media walks into a mosque and kills six canadians during prayer. my thoughts and prayers go out to the muslims and nonmuslims in christ-church today. >> what assistance if any or will the united states provide in a situation like this? >> whatever new zealand asked for. they're an incredibly close ally. i think the folks in new zealand are kind of capable of handling
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it on their own. this sort of looks like a hate crime, especially if there's a second mosque involved. and he is right. we have a real problem in western societies of islamaphobia of people who don't think muslims are somehow part of our society. and when those views become internalized with a certain group these are the results. >> so we're going to keep on this situation in a new zealand again. we're going to get back to it as soon as we get more information. but i want to turn back now to a story here at home. so president trump says he has the support of top people, the police, the military, bikers for trump, and they could make things very bad for his critics on the left. is there any question what he's getting at here in. >> no, none whatsoever, don. it's very clear what he's getting it, and he's said it before as you pointed out earlier in the show. he has a long history of talking like a mob boss, talking about the violent people, the armed
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people he can call on for support. he did this when he was running for election in 2015, 2016. we remember seeing him telling people at rallies he'll punch his opponents. he said the second amendment folks could take matters into their own hands with clinton. he hasn't stopped. don't be too nice to the people you're shoving into cars, move your hand away when you're shoving them in. he praised a republican congressman who body slammed a reporter and said he's my kind of guy. he talks about the media as enemies of the people, as scum, sick. now you have him talking ufbt the military and police? can you imagine if barack obama had done an interview saying i have the police and the military and the new black panthers and things are going to get rel ree bad if my opponents come for me, they're tough? we should be losing our minds he's saying this stuff.
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>> but it's 2019 and nothing seems to matter right now. listen, it's not funny but it's laughable. >> it's dangerous as well. >> it's dangerous, yeah, and beneath the dignity of the office. so, matthew, listen, these comments remind me of what michael cohen said to congress of what may happen if trump loses in 2020. hear this. >> given my experience working for mr. trump i fear that if he loses the election in 2020, that there will never be a peaceful transition of power. >> so he also said that trump talks in code. do you think people who want to do harm could hear the president's comments today as a direction? >> i mean, yeah, if you want to do harm. if you're someone out there thinking, you know, what, i don't like some of these people who don't like trump, you've got permission to go out and do it.
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i have spent a lot of time, though, around the military in my life. and plenty to criticize about our military but civilian control is certainly not a thing that's been a problem for our military. and i have a lot of trouble imagining that in kind of just following the orders of a president who is totally beyond the law saying you need to enforce my will or enforce loyalty to me. it's not what the most of the military believes. maybe bikers for trump believes that but i don't think it's the military or police. >> i don't know what bikers for trump believes. and i hate to disparage them, but listen, you say this destabilizes our national security. how so? >> so i've overseen public safety agencies including the national guard here in massachusetts. we depend on them to not be political. and as a political person or someone who worked for political
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people, that can be frustrating at times, right? but that you are dependent on them not to take into consideration that the person in charge is a democrat or pro-choice or for the wall or whatever it is. so one thing i want to say that we sometimes forget in this conversation is how sort of bloody disrespectful trump is of public safety and the military to absorb them as his own. that's not why they defend our community and the nation. and the other position is public safety, to even let's just be honest here the faa in the boeing decision, why trump was involved with that is, you know, not consistent with sort of objective public safety is that it gives our allies very little confidence in the operational
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objectativity of our military and our law enforcement. so this is the national emergency we should be voting on. i don't want to hear someone from the white house say he was just joking, which is what they always do. i believe trump believes this, and that's the thing that makes me very nervous. i don't think the military or the cops believe this. i believe trump believes this, and that's why he is unfit to hold the office he holds right now. >> i need you guys to please standby. i want to get to it prime minister of new zealand in our breaking news. let's listen in. >> they are us. the person who has perpetuated this violence against us is not. they have no place in new zealand. there is no place in new zealand for such acts of extreme and unprecedented violence which it is clear this act was. for now my thoughts and i'm sure the thoughts of all new
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zealanders are those who are affected and those families. the advice from police continues it be that people remain indoors. i acknowledge it may mean that some families are separated, but please continue to listen out for information as it comes to light that's been directly provided by the new zealand police with further information. but as i say, please remain in lockdown. we are potentially still dealing with an evolving situation again as i say across multiple sites. please be sure, though, the police are actively managing the situation christchurch hospital is dedicated to treating those who are arriving at the hospital as we speak as well. as soon as i leave here i will be returning directly on a
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flight to wellington. agencies are already convening in wellington. it's my expectation once i arrive and have been briefed i intend to speak again publicly after that point. i'm happy to take questions. it's only a matter of a few hours ago. of course i was advised of the situation and it was an evolving situation. again, public reporting took place not long after events began unfolding. but as for the precise details at this stage i'll wait until i have a bit more of precision from a briefing directly from the police when i arrive in wellington. >> now, you're listening now to a briefing from the new zealand prime minister talking about the shooting, a very serious
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situation, a firearm situation, a firearm incident in christchurch. again that's according to the prime minister and police as well. they're saying the city of christchurch is in lockdown and also all schools as well. and they're waiting to get more information, asking people to stay in place even though families may be separated. reportedly this incident happened at a mosque, and there's a possibility of a second shooting that's not been confirmed yet, but we're working on getting it. let's get back now to matthew rosenberg, juliette and assan mehi. this kind of thing as you said before is personal to you and it speaks to the violence that is going on in our culture. >> very much so. and i think to kind of talk about the story we talked about before in terms of trump's rhetoric as well western
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government has turned a blind eye to western terrorism. we know from stats here in the u.s. there are more attacks and casualties from far right groups thain there are quote-unquote jihadist or muslim groups. i mentioned the attack in quebec city shortly after trump was inaugurated, there's been attempted attacks in minnesota and various places across the u.s. on the rise in britain, across western europe, united states, canada, australia and now sadly new zealand. and that requires politicians to take the problem seriously and also to deal with their language. you asked matthew earlier is there someone out there tonight going to hear trump's rhetoric and act on it? less than six months ago we know one of his big supporters sent pipe bombs in the mail to dozens of people trump had attacked and demonized. we know lots of far right
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attackers have claimed to be trump supporters in recent months. so this is not just about trump but about politicians especially on the right taking seriously this problem and really being careful about their language at the very minimum. >> you're the security person here. talk to us about what's going on, and what is the reaction? what's happening here? >> okay, sorry, just managing some incoming here. i want to deconstruct this for the viewer. first of all, it is clear that they have one or two mosques -- you do not lock down a city unless you believe there could be others. you don't do a major city. what i'm taking out of the prime minister is the lockdown is consistent with concerns there's going to be three, four and five. they don't have a sense of what is going on yet. keep the people inside, secure them in place. that's what you do in any of these counter terrorism
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incidences. number two, a very important fact of what the prime minister said is a recognition of the family separation, urging people to not -- that essentially you are putting yourself or your children in more harm if you go out in the street right now. you know, the inclination in any disaster are where are my kids, people will want to get out in the streets. she's urging them to fight that inclination, and third you're basically having a whole government response. she's moving over there. you're going to have massive amounts of security effort. this is what we have right now, and, you know, my sort of assessment of what the prime minister is saying right now, they do not have this under control. you do not close down a city, an entire city unless you are concerned that you're not just dealing with what they have right now, that that lockdown could be lifted relatively soon. but we've only seen that, for example, in the united states with boston when they were in the search of the brother.
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and that's a big take away and it's a scary time for the city right now. >> well, i want to thank all of you for being so nimble and agile and responding to this breaking news. we had planned to talk politics only. thank you very much. i appreciate it. and again we're going to keep on top of the breaking news here. just to add to that, this is what the new zealand commissioner mike bush is saying, that there are multiple fatalities at two mosques in christchurch and canterbury area, and multiple fatalities caused by an active shooter and a serious and grave situation, and unsure if other locations outside the area are under threat. we'll stay on top of it for you and bring you any of this breaking news as soon as we get more information. we'll be right back. ust got mar. we're all under one roof now. congratulations. thank you. how many kids? my two. his three. along with two dogs and jake, our new parrot. that is quite the family. quite a lot of colleges to pay for though. a lot of colleges.
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tonight president trump's tough talk drawing comparisons to another embattled president and that's richard nixon. he too was under the cloud of an impeachment threat. one that ultimately ended with his resignation. joining me now to discuss all of this is veteran journalist mr. sam donaldson. sam, thank you very much. can i please get your reaction to this breaking news out of new zealand? >> scary times. scary times in a scary world. we don't know where to go because it's not sure you can go to church a synagogue, a house of worship, go to movie theater, go to a ballpark someplace that we've been used to go to safely and we're not sure we can do that anymore. i don't know what to say, don, except we've got to get ahold of this. you've got to get hold of the guns and have a leader who leads us to our better angels and not towards darker times.
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>> we'll continue to update our viewers on this breaking fuse. let's talk some politics now mr. donaldson. we've been talking about all this tough talk from this president. what do you think about all that rhetoric coming from the white house? >> we've heard it before, but we had to wait for the tapes. nixon on the tapes we know there's tough talk, but at least richard nixon didn't come out in public or on a tweet and feel free to say it or go to a crowd and urge them onto violence. he didn't do that. >> so let's talk specifically about what he said in this breitbart interview. i have the support of the military, the police, bikers for
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trump. what kind of impact does that have on people who oppose him? does it sound like a threat to you? >> well, i think it sounded like a threat, and the president in the campaign urged people in the crowd to take matters into their own hands, rough this guy up, i'll pay the bills and all of that. that's the way he's acted all his life really as far as his enemies go. and that's the way it kind of looks like richard nixon. nixon saw enemies everywhere in the shadows when they weren't there. >> you brought up richard nixon so i just want to play a clip now. this is from a new cnn original series. it's called "tricky dick." >> i don't give a damn what the story is. >> richard m. nixon has lied repeatedly.
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>> no reporter from "the washington post" should ever be in the white house again. do you understand? the tougher it gets, the cooler i get. i have what it takes. >> defeat nixon now. defeat nixon now. >> i want to say this to the television because the people have to know whether their president's a crook. well, i'm not a crook. let others wallow in watergate. we're going to do our job. i'm going to kick their ass. >> no one's going to package me. no one's going to make me put on an act for television. i'm not going to engage in any gimmicks or stunts, where any silly hats. if people looking at me say that's a new nixon, well all i can say is maybe you didn't know the old nixon. >> in looking at that i just wonder if the folks in this administration realize that history's being written in every moment and when we look back on those moments in history can you imagine, first of all, being richard nixon or someone who was
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involved in watergate? >> well, history repeats itself. i mean when donald trump started in on the press i thought, yeah, i know richard nixon and the press. he appealed to the silent majority. his vice president superhero agnew went out and other little coplets attacking the press was one of his favorite techniques. his southern strategy based on is the civil war really over was another one of his techniques. but he was a little more refined than the president we have today. if you want to use the word thug in a sentence politically, richard nixon was right up there with mr. trump. >> let's look at the examples of your reporting for abc news during watergate. here it is. >> the democratic national committee is trying to silence -- now it's on the
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public record. john dean's damning in largely unsubstantiated testimony against the president. it is sure to be fierce. for nothing less than richard nixon's presidency may ride on whether the public believes john dean or not. but there is a feeling of relief that perhaps the trauma that's stopped here for so long is over, and the house and the country can move forward. >> that could be today. that could be today. what do you think happens after the mueller report? >> i don't know. it's up to the house. i think nancy pelosi is right unless you have now something you can pull out and say this is the smoking gun, you're not going to convince mr. trump's base, 30, 31%, whatever it is he's done anything wrong. it smoking gun is the tape that came at the very end of the impeachment process, in which we heard richard nixon and bob
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halderman the chief of staff cook up a cover up. tell them it's a national security. you tell the fbi chief it's of national security. so we need something like that. what's going to happen is the system is going to work, threatened those burglars with 40 years in prison if they didn't come clean as to who put them up. the urban committee that you talked about, hearing john dean talking about a cancer in the presidency and alexander butterfield, do you know that name? he's the guy who installed the taping system in the oval office, in the nixon hideaway. yeah, and he was asked the question. he said do you know -- mr. butterfield, do you any of any taping system in the white house? he said, yes i do. he said later he understood by blowing the whistle on the fact
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tapes existed he'd probably be doing in the president. but he said i'm not going to perjure myself for anyone. and pardon me, don, if i'm talking really fast but bringing back those memories you want to get it all in if you can, is that the system worked. reporters like woodrow is bernstein and others brought attention not just to the public but officials. how did he figure out they're burglars? does he threaten every burglar? no. but he'd read enough to know that these weren't just anybody. they were people that were special. >> when you come to new york, please i want to have dinner and hear all of those stories. i do have to say in watching those tapes and we watched you and john dean and watched dan rather, and we look back on those times. and it is important for us to remember that presidents have
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always been held accountable by the media, right? and this administration acts as if they're the first administration or the first presidency to be challenged, criticized and held accountable by the media. that is part of the bedrock of this society of america. that's what the press does, and it's done it with every single -- >> and i just want to say, don, i think the reporters i watched today and read today are terrific. they're terrific in washington. people say would you like to be back? not really. these guys and these gals are doing a terrific job against odds i never had to face. >> thank you. and you still got that hair, same hair. i ain't mad at you. >> and by the way, if we have dinner are you going to pay for it? >> of course it's on me. it's on cnn. thank you. i appreciate it. >> all right, mr. lemon. >> always a pleasure. the cnn original series "tricky dick" premieres this sunday night at 9:00 only on cnn. we're back in a moment.
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democratic nation. 46-year-old former congressman from texas nearly beat senator ted cruz last november losing by less than three points. my cnn colleague ryan nobles caught up with bernie sanders at a campaign rally in south carolina tonight and asked him about it. >> senator, do you have any comment on beto o'rourke entering the race, senator? >> free country. anybody can run. >> i want to talk about beto o'rourke's candidacy. good evening. was that shade, y'all? was that -- so listen, we know what it was. bakari, beto o'rourke grabbed the headlines today with his announcement fancy spread at vanity fair. you're a skeptic. why stat? >> i'm not necessarily a skeptic, but i do think i was born to do this. i think some of the lines he had are simply lines draped in
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privilege. i think he had some quotes today that i'm absolutely certain that amy klobuchar and elizabeth warren and kamala harris and kirsten gillibrand and tulsi gabbard cannot get away with. but i'm excited about his candidacy. i think a lot of people are excited to see where he goes. i want to see if he has any policy depth or if he is just someone who people are trying to cast in the same shadow as barack obama, which i think is not a winning strategy to say the least. >> this is quote from the piece in vanity fair, okay? and it says o'rourke is acutely aware to perhaps his mobiggest vulnerability. that's part of the problem, and i'm a white man. so if i were to run i think it's just so important that those who would compromise my team look like this country. again, that's a quote from
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vanity fair there. he goes onto say that he gets that almost every single one of our presidents has been a white man, and people might want something different fror the country. what do you say to that? >> look, i think a lot of people in the democratic party want to have a president who more represents the true nature of the country, which is we have had a lot of white male presidents, and people thought it was a historic presidency to have barack obama, and also that perhaps an went dote to trumpism is a woman candidate. so i think it's important that beto o'rourke shows that he understands that, he gets it. that he appreciates there will be a lot of people in the party who want that kind of candidacy. i will say that as a senate candidate and even today i think he recognized a lot of the issu
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issues of concerned bribery. i think that -- i do think he has spoken -- but i think that's important for the next couple of weeks. >> you are you brought up people of color. because at a meet and greet in iowa he spoke about repparation. >> when the race and wealth in this country disproportionately favors one race, and when wealth was accumulated from them it was stripped from them. in texas we ranked 50th in voter turnout in the nation not because we don't love our democracy but because our elected officials were so skillful at drawing people out of congressional districts based on their race and ethnicity. do not take my word for it. in 2017 alone four separate
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times the courts ruled that to be true and ordered texas to fix it. we have systemic racism in this country. >> he also said in order to make sure that we repair this country we first have to confront the truth. he's not afraid to have the conversation. what do you think, bah carry? >> i think that's a great response. i think many people are drawn to beto o'rourke because he gives that response. but let me educate the audience just briefly if i can. when people are talking about reparations though one is talking about black people going to their mailbox and getting a check. and we're talking about a 400-year continuum that actually began 400 years ago in 1619 and we're talking about slivery, jim crow, degradation, and the fact he understands and can recognize systemic racism is important. that actually separates him from other candidates like bernie
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sanders who actually has some issue grappling with reparations. i will say what beto o'rourke has to do now is take that one step further. what does that plan look like? are we talking about reinvesting and making sure more african-americans can take part in the middle class? are we talking about combating african-american women who actually died at a much higher rate than their white colleagues giving birth? it's great that he acknowledges that and wants to weigh in, but now your running for the president of the united states. he has another 200 or 300 days to come up with a plan to tell us how he's going to address that. >> but he's also talking about the probably the most important issue when it comes to an election and that is jerry m gerrymanderring and voter suppression.
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and frankly most people in the media don't give it enough coverage. there are some in 2016 who see it as a complete total electoral fluke, that the country is actually more liberal than it is conservative. but yet you have people with fewer populations. the smaller number of populations actually have the most number of representatives and have the most power in this country. neera, i've got to ask you because the question is you want a diverse candidate, i wonder if democrats are aware of it's about winning more than anything, right, for them? so you currently have the most diverse field. you've got kamala harris, tulsi gabbard, kirsten gillibrand. yet the early front runners are joe biden, beto o'rourke and bernie sanders. so why isn't that diversity showing up in the top
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candidates? >> first of all, it's really early. and i would say that the top two candidates which are bernie sanders and joe biden who happen to be older white men happen to have name i.d.s. bernie sanders ran before and he's definitely in the top two. not where he say a few years ago but definitely in the top two. and i think the beauty of the race is that we are going to hear from these candidates in detail about their positions. i completely agree with bakari and you that now is the time for candidates to really go and talk about not just the analysis, but it's important to get the problem but also their ideas on how to solve the systemic problems we have. i can think do that. but i would say that i'm hopeful that a lot of our more diverse candidates will have have as much of an opportunity as everyone else in this race. >> i've got to run but if you give me a yes or a no because
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what i told our viewers is we were going to try to figure out when beto o'rourke had gained african-american voter support. do you think he can, neera? >> i would defer to others on this, but he did get very strong support in texas. he was running against ted cruz, but a lot of those people came out for him. >> what do you think, bakari? >> we'll see. it's pressing he was talking about issues of race in iowa because there weren't too many black folk in the room. i think he'll do well. i'm not sure he'll do enough to overtake some of the others but i think he'll do well. could we see the president's tax returns soon? well, the treasure secretary steven mnuchin says he'll comply with the law when it comes to releasing them. so what happens now? king for a day! well, maybe not the whole day. our 19.99 or 49.99 oil change includes a tire rotation.
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the treasury secretary steven mnuchin says he will comply with the law on releasing
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the president's ever so elusive tax returns. that as house democrats seek to establish a legal basis to request them. so will the public eventually see what the president has been hiding? here to discuss katherine and steven moore. good evening to both of you. let's listen to what steve mnuchin said about releasing trump's tax returns. here it is. >> i'm happy to accept it. if i have a request, which i presume from what i've read in the press i will receive, i will consult with the legal department within treasury, and i will follow the law. >> do you think democrats are really going to see trump's tax returns? >> well, look, they should. the american public should at this point. trump has defied basely a half century of norms about the president releasing his tax returns. i think we have to assume he doesn't want us to see something quite badly, and maybe that
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something is that he's not paying very much in taxes or he's committing tax fraud or bank fraud, overstating the actual income he has coming in. that would be embarrassing, possibly criminal. i think what we actually want to know is who does he owe money to and who is he getting money from? that's what the american public needs to know at this point because you have to remember, like, this is guy who banks would not lend money to. this was a guy who was buying golf courses in all cash, which if you know anything about real estate transactions you know makes no sense. >> listen, i think maybe a better way of putting it is if the people he's in business with, if that in some way co compromises him. i think that's important to know. and if it's a foreign government who happies to ens to be a foe there's something compromising
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about them. >> it may explain the comments he's made about russia and other foreign dictatorships. >> about those tax returns this is what cohen had to say to congress. >> what he didn't want is to have an entire group of think tanks that are tax experts run through his tax return and start ripping it to pieces, and then he'll end up in an audit and he'll ultimately have taxable consequences, penalties and so on. >> so that's an interesting point that basically said he didn't want to release his tax returns because he might end up in an audit. so could you presume from that statement that he wasn't under audit? >> i presume that he's not under audit. >> so, steven, has the president been lying. >> this has been adjudicated so many times i probably did an interview on cnn during the campaign and was asked -- >> we didn't have testimony from
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his personal lawyer or fixer, though. >> there isn't a law that makes a president release their tax returns. >> if he has something to hide it could be years of norms. >> if you want to make a law to make a presidential candidate provide tax returns make a law. there is no such law. what bothers me about this story, about the chairman of the ways and means committee to say he was going to invent -- >> he said he was going to invoke on an existing law. >> let me just finish my point. do you think donald trump has the same kind of civil liberty preces every american has? what gives congress the right to simply require the president to release his tax returns? >> there is a law. it's a section of the internal revenue code. it was last invoked in 2014 related to the investigation over whether the irs was
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improperly auditing conservative groups. this law has been around for about 100 years. it dates back to the tea pot dome scandal. it explicitly says that if the chairman of the house ways committee amongst a small subset of other ask the treasury secretary for a tax return, the treasury secretary shall furnish the tax return. >> you're try to invent a law. >> i got to go. >> the law exists. >> we'll be right back. fidelity's rewriting the rules of investing. again. introducing fidelity stock and bond index funds with lower expense ratios than comparable vanguard funds. and we now offer the industry's first true zero expense ratio index funds directly to investors. plus, we have fidelity mutual funds with zero minimum investment. how many other firms give you this much value? absolutely zero. ♪ why don't they do what they say ♪ ♪ say what they mean
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we're going to get to anna in just a moment as soon as she's ready. we have been reporting on this break news now. you see the new information that we have. what can you tell us? >> there is is ongoing the prim minister and the police chief, there's a complete city lockdown. there's very rare. we've barely seen it in the united states. they do not know if it's another person. obviously, the police believe there could be other people out there and they are doing something called shelters in place telling every one to stay inside. the second issue and must be
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said is these are mosques. one has to assume and be direct these are targeted hate crimes and a form of terror. we don't know who the assailants are yet. it looks like that this is something this would be targeted on a friday night. friday night prayers within the muslim community. >> i want to get to anna burns francis. the reporter we have on the ground. anna, thank you for joining us. can you update our viewers on what you know. >> sure. at this stage we have nine confirmed deaths as a result of two shootings across the city. both of those occurred at the mosque. there was a second attack a
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short drive away. there appears to be dozens of people injured. i understand they are arriving at the hospital to be treated for their injuries. the city is in lockdown. all schools are in lockdown. souper markets have closed. public art galleries have closed. those areas have been cleared. the issue is with every one being told to stay where that are that those families cannot connect with their children. mosques have been told to close their doors. we have reports the police forced is deployed. police have told us while they arrested one believed one began and he has been taken into
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custody, they are not sure how many have taken part in this attack. there's potentially or fears at this stage there's still one more gunman on the loose. >> do we know anything about this gunman, before i let you go. >> we do have reports coming in. we have been seeing some horrific footage of the attack being carried out which was live streamed at the time on youtube. new zealand authorities have been in touch to request all like links to that footage be removed. that's very graphic video footage. we understand there was a 27-page manifesto on the internet to be released as the attacks unfolded. that's being sent out to multiple sources. staff have begun reading its conten contents. it appears it was coordinated
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and pre-planned with a specific purpose. >> thank you so much. we appreciate you updating our viewers. s you heard what she said. nine dead. dozens injured. some people are still on their way to the hospital. schools, businesses, government agencies closed. what do you make of what she said? >> absolutely now should be constituted as a terror attack against the muslim community. the fear that this will be ongoing. you'll just shut down the city till you know what's happening. the platforms we complain about, get these videos off right now. we do not want them circulated. it's what terrorists want. >> what should people do if they come across them? don't share them. >> we shouldn't show them. this is what the terrorists want.
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they want notoriety. every mayor should deploy addition nalg al resources to m. this is a community that will feel under threat. it's the responsible thing to do and i hope the mayors oorn taroe united states will do that. >> thank you very much . nine dead and two shootshooting. folks are on lockdown in new zealand right now. thanks for watching. our coverage continues. member, . i'm tecky. i can do it all. go ahead, ask it a question. tecky, can you offer low costs and award-winning full service with a satisfaction guarantee, like schwab? sorry. tecky can't do that. schwabbb! calling schwab. we don't have a satisfaction guarantee, but we do have tecky! i'm tecky. i ca... are you getting low costs and award-winning full service? if not, talk to schwab.
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