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>> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. it is clear that this can now only be described as a terrorist attack. >> we continue following the breaking news in new zealand. welcome to viewers in the u.s. and around the world. i'm george howell. >> thank you for being with us. this has been going on for hours now. the prime minister that that nation you just saw there at least 40 people are dead in shootings at two mosques in the city of christchurch. and authorities say they stopped and disarmed at least two vehicles with improvised explosive devices, ieds.
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the prooime minister saying at least three people are in custody in connection with these disturbing attacks. >> eighty-one of the gunman was wearing a body camera has he opened fire at a mosque, live streaming the whole thing on social media. facebook and twitter have taken the disgusting video down. here's more of what the prime minister had to say less than an hour ago. listen. >> it is with extreme sadness that i tell you that as of 7:00 p.m. tonight we believe that 40 people have lost their lives in this act of extreme violence. ten have died at linwood avenue mosque. three of which were outside the mosque itself. there are also more than 20 seriously injured who are currently in christchurch a&e.
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it is clear this can now only be described as a terrorist attack. from what we know it does appear to are have been well-planned. two explosive devices attached to suspects' vehicles have now been found, and they have been disarmed. there are currently four individuals who have been apprehended, but three are connected to this attack who are currently in custody. one of which has publicly stated that they were australian born. >> with so many dead the people that were able to get out are so very fortunate. and we've heard from some of them. witnesses describing a terrifying scene at one of the mosques when the gunmen walked in and opened fire. here's what one man had to say shortly after that happened. >> when i turned and opened the door and they started firing and
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they just keep firing and firing and there's a small window i tried to open. it was really high, but i smashed the window and the firing just keep going. >> the stories of people who survive will be key to these investigators as they try to understand what happened, why this happened and also this video, this disgusting video that's been taken down quite frankly on the social media platforms. that will be key. our anna coren has been following that part of the story. >> because you watched the video, anna, and we can tell it
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has had quite an effect on you. >> it was the most horrendous thing i think i've ever seen. it was like watching a video game, a gunman just mowing down people. and listening to the new zealand prime minister jacinda ardern speak just a short time ago she had this is not new zealand. this is not who we are. and that is the truth. new zealand is this peaceful loving welcoming nation. it's a country of just 5 million people that has been rocked by the horrors that took place in christchurch this afternoon. but that video, to watch that gunman and it has now been confirm bide the australian prime minister scott morrison that he is an australian citizen, he drove to the mosque and he live streamed this video on facebook. he drove to the mosque, he got
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out of his car, he was carrying the semiautomatic guns. he walked into the mosque, as soon as he passed the gates he started firing towards the mosque. he then walked through the front doors and is mowing down anyone in his path. you can hear people screaming. you can hear people moaning, crying out for help. he then goes into a corridor. he reloads, walks back out and starts shooting again. he then calmly walks out of the mosque, gets outside the gates and starts firing along the pavement in one direction and then in the other direction. he then walks to his car, gets more ammunition, walks back shooting, walks back into the mosque and continues his killing spree. and as we've discussed in previous hours i'm sure if these people who were under fire, that
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they would have fallen to the ground. that would be your normal reaction in something as horrendous as that. well, they didn't even have a chance to get out alive because he then went up to each of those people at short range and executed every single one of them. and to learn that death toll, that 30 people died in that dean's avenue mosque, that is what we saw. that is the number of bodies that we saw watching that video. he then leaves the mosque. he once again stands on that pavement and is firing and he sees a woman from a distance he shoots her. she's crying out help me, help me and he shoots her in the head. he then gets back in his car and he drives away talks to himself, laughing. he fires out the wind screen, he fires out the passenger window, just shooting randomly. and then what is so bizarre, you can hear the sirens blaring as if the police are driving
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towards the mosque. he gets to this pedestrian crossing and stops and allows these people to walk past. i mean, this is just one sick deranged individual who has brought horror, complete horror to new zealand. >> anna, it's just surreal even hearing you describe it, it's chilling. and it is so fortunate that this man is in custody now, and we still really haven't heard, have we, how police were able to take him in or how that went down. >> well, we have seen video of a police arrest. we don't know if it was that particular gunman, but he is obviously one of the three men who has been arrested. and listening to the new zealand police commissioner mike bush, and to the new zealand prime minister jacinda ardern, this could have been so much worse if that is at all possible.
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i mean, 40 dead that is just exkre excruciating in anyone's terms. as i say this could have been so much worse because they found these cars, they rested these individuals and there were ieds planted inside these cars. so we don't know whether they were planning a suicide bombing, whether they were going to drive into other mosques, other buildings. you know, by the sound of things the new zealand police force have done an exceptional job. we know that the defense force is also now a part of this investigation. christchurch still in lock down. people told don't go outside of your houses, don't go anywhere near mosques. but they do believe that they have the three people that were responsible for these attacks in custody. they obviously -- everybody very vigilant. the national security threat level has been taken from low to high. that is how seriously they are
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considering this. and i think what is also very interesting is that these three individuals were not on any sort of watch list. so they had flown under the radar. these people were unknown to security, to police, intelligence, the australian citizen he had been living in new zealand for some time. but as jacinda ard drn said a short time ago this was without doubt a terrorist attack. >> anna corren, giving osan understanding on what the on that video. it seems this person was meticulous, methodical, it was premeditated and just sick what happened there. thank you for updating us. >> yeah, and we have more evidence of just how sick this was because we have reported 40 dead, but we are just hearing from christchurch hospital that some 48 people are there who were shot and are being treated
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right now. they're ranging from young children to adults with gunshot wounds and other kinds of injuries from critical to minor. so you're looking at this heinous, heinous act. and anna was saying that thee watched the video and you can tell there were going to be so many people deld and injured. so now we know, 40 dead, 48 in one hospital being treated. >> and here's the other thing. so there are so many people who are injured, so many people who have been killed, 40 people. and the process to identify the dead and to notify the next of kin will take hours if not days. and another thing that played out just to share with our viewers in the u.s., this played out about 1:40 in the afternoon. and local time children were in school. and the schools went on lock down. if you could imagine this as a parent, i certainly think about this and i know you think about this, not being able to get to
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your child when something like this is happening. the children were to stay in the school until the situation was resolved. that had to be so terrifying for those families. >> and imagine this, also at the same time there were some 1,000 children taking part in a climate change rally. these were things going on around the world at about the time that this happened. and we don't know of anyone getting hurt from that, but that's yet just another element of this story. >> the schools are no longer on lock down and the children have returned to their homes. >> so let's talk with steve moore one of our experts wave been talking with. live for us in los angeles, a cnn law enforcement analyst and a retired supervisory fbi agent. 48 people in the hospital being treated and 40 people killed. this gunman went to task in this
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hor, and what does it say to you this number he was able to carry out and of course three people under arrest here? >> it's almost distasteful to even think about but we what found there are certain types of killers that come in and shoot randomly and shoot and leave. this is one of those few who actually go back and make sure people are dead. this is unusual, not unheard of. but when this happens the death toll is obviously much higher. i'm really startled by the fact that this guy not only did this attack, which he says was motivated by these strong feelings he has, and he puts out this manifesto, but then he's driving down the street shooting randomly? what does that say about why he's really killing? >> to let ow viewers know we are awaiting a news conference from police there in christchurch,
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new zealand. we're awaiting that at any time and may have to interrupt you as that happens live. but, steve, you know, so three people who are now in custody, these three people who will absolutely be questioned about a motive here. >> yes. and the motive -- you know, they've already put that out there. they've put 87 pages of manifesto out there, apparently. and we can argue back and forth whether they're just violent people looking for a reason to hurt others or whether they believed in any of this stuff. but they -- you're going to look at them but you can't take what they say necessarily as true because they're obviously in this for their own reasons. so what they're going to do, what the police need to do are go through their social media, through their e-mails, their entire electronic footprint.
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one thing they're not going to say is whether they have any friends helping them. they'll go through this ideology about whether it's okay to kill people and that kind of sickness but not that my cussen helped me. the only way you can prove this is to get into their electronic bread crumbs essentially and find out where they've been. and this will tell you a lot about who helped them, how they got their weapons and what type of planning. nobody does something like this without documenting it, if nothing else i've seen people just have to-do lists. you know, buy explosives for the cars. that stuff is going to be found. and this is going to be like uncovering a tomb in egypt. you're just going to have to do it in an archeological way.
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>> we last heard from police just almost three hours ago, so we'll see what else they have for us. but in talks about the complexities of carrying this out, surely pulling a trigger is an act of cowardice and doesn't take any brains there. however, to get weapons like this and the amount of ammunition, help us understand the amount here in a country where guns are illegal. how much work did that take? >> it might have taken a lot of work, but it doesn't have to. the problem is in the same way that we all know in asia you can buy knock off purses, knock off fashions, guess what, you can buy from china knock off ar-15s, knock off 47s. you can order them and get them
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from overseas. the problem is that you can close down your area, but you can't close down the entire world, just as we can't get some countries to sign-on to climate treaties and things like that, we can't get team the clamp down on sending weapons around the world. >> tv moore, we appreciate you being with us. and we'll stay in touch with you as we learn more from police to get your expertise on it. again you're watching breaking news coverage here on cnn. the terror attack that took place in christchurch, new zealand. 40 people killed, 30 people at one mosque on dean's avenue. 20 others seriously injured and are in the hospital. standby. we'll have more after the break.
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this is cnn breaking news. welcome back as we continue following the breaking news out of christchurch, new zealand. two masked shootings at two different mosques with many fatalities. just moments agewe heard from the prime minister of that nation calling this a terrorist attack and confirming at least 40 people were killed. 30 people were killed at the dean avenue mosque, there on dean's avenue and 10 people killed at the linwood avenue mosque. christchurch hospital is treating 48 patients with gunshot wounds from young children to adults. >> that gives you a sense of the magnitude of this massacre. the prime minister said three people have been arrested, but police caution there could still be others at large. also a part of what they found, cars rigged with ieds,
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explosives also in a chilling part of this grotesque act, one of the alleged gunman was wearing a body cam and live streamed the massacre, the bloodshed. social media sites have been taking it down. one attacker is believed to have also posted the long anti-immigrant manifesto giving explanations for the attack. >> a bus carrying bangladesh's cricket team pulled up at one of the mosques while the shooting was happening. and you see the video here showing them walking away from that scene unhurt. let's now bring in chris lynch. chris has been with us for now several hours from news talk zb raid ye radio in christchurch. it's late, 8:22 p.m. there. tell us what's happening there as far as investigators and police on the streets?
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>> before i left what is really, really odd as a broadcaster in the city is the fact when you look at the national newspaper online and you see the words city under siege, and this is just something that i think most people in christchurch have struggled to comprehend. it doesn't feel real. the streets across christchurch apart from the central city you can't get to are incredibly eerie and incredibly quiet. i can still hear helicopters flying above the city. we are talking about a really peaceful relaxed city of new zealand. it's just something that i'm in shock. i think most people are in shock. of course the latest developments really are as you may have heard from the new zealand prime minister and that the focus will of course now be
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focused on if they weren't on any security watch list, and that's a massive concern. this is something we hear all the time, that these types appear and manage to get away with it. and perhaps even more concerning and despicable is that in this manifesto one of the perpetrators the reason why they targeted the christchurch city is being we usually think of it -- new zealand is not known for gun violence at all, so when there is some kind of gun incident no matter how small it is it makes the national news. so for this to happen in this city i think we're in shock and we're simply devastated. but i think the next message from the media is how did they get away with it, how did they
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do this in such a peaceful quiet city. >> and you have to get a license for that and to carry out a massive attack with guns and amination to kill so many people, to injure so many people. and i know that people in new zealand have watched this happen unfortunately all the time in the united states and somewhat other places, but not there. and you have to think how does this change the psyche of people in new zealand? >> that's right. and with respect to american viewers, that's the one thing we always say is only in america. the sad reality is when we see mass shootings is we say there's goes another one, it's just america or, you know, in some parts of northern europe. this is not something new zealanders are used to. this is not something we identify ourselves with. the last mass shooting happened at a very small sleepy town in
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the mid-80s. there's been something since because we're not known as a country of -- we love deer hunting and fishing and outdoor adventure. but as routine people just don't have guns in their homes. so the other question will be asked, how did these perpetrators get hold of such devastating monstrous guns? >> yes, guns which we have seen in still pictures that were posted there for a while, and it's chilling to see just the weaponry that this maniac used to carry out such an unspeakable act against these innocent people who were just worshipping on a friday afternoon. >> and, you know, we were just looking at those images, one after another after another. so many people who were injured or killed. it is more than tragic. stay with us. we'll be right back after the break.
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residents. a hospital is treating 48 people including children with gunshot wounds. >> authorities also say they stopped and disarmed at least two vehicles armed with ieds, improvised explosive devices. the prime minister says at least three people are now in custody in connection with this attack, and she made it clear this is not who new zealanders are, and she considers whoever did this, terrorists. >> people can see images like from christchurch, it'll be obvious to them that this is significant event, and i can tell you now this is and will be one of new zealand's darkest days. >> hearing there from the prime minister. now bringing in our anna corren. anna has watched that terrible video that was live streamed. what more did the prime minister have to say? >> reporter: there was certainly an impassioned plea basically
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saying this is not new zealand. new zealand is a loving welcoming nation of 5 million people who opens its doors, opens its borders to mifwrnlts. and that has been new zealand's immigrion policy to date. they have allowed people from muslim countries to come and settle from all zones, to come and move to the sanctuary that really is new zealand. so for this to happen in christchurch, new zealand's third largest city this afternoon, it's just rocked the nation, and we heard that from the prime minister. she obviously was in nairobi, kenya, attending a u.n. conference earlier today. she was flown straight back to new zealand, to wellington where she gave a press conference a short time ago saying that we reject and condemn this violence, extremism, this ideology. it does not belong to new zealand. take a listen to what she had to
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say. >> our thoughts and our prayers are with those who have been impacted today. christchurch was the home of these victims. for many this may not have been the place they were born. in fact, for many new zealand was the choice, the place they actively came to and committed themselves to. the place they were raising their families, where they were part of communities that they loved and who loved them. it was a place that many came to for its safety, a place where they were free to practice their culture and their religion. for those of you who are watching a home tonight and questioning how this could have happened here, we, new zealand, we were not a target because we are a safe harbor for those who hate. we were not chosen for this act of violence because we condone
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racism, because we're an enclave for extremism. we were chosen for the very fact that we are none of these things. >> now, the three people who have been taken in to custody, one of them is an australian citizen. he was the one who live streamed his killing spree at the deans avenue mosque. and it was absolutely chilling to watch that 17-minute video he recorded on his helmet camera. and the killing spree inside that mosque took place for some six minutes. but i think what is really interesting as well, george and natalie, is that police said that when they apprehended at least two of the people involved in these attacks that they found ieds attached to their cars. so if they were able to carry out perhaps the attack they were initially planning, the death
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toll could have been even worse. >> absolutely. and as you said, they've taken down this heinous video on twitter and facebook. facebook issued a comment about that. you watched it, anna, and said that it was one of the most disturbing things you've ever seen in your life. can you elaborate somewhat? >> yeah, i've been reporting for some decades now, and i've never seen anything as horrendous as what i watched this morning. it was as i said 17-minutes of video captured on the helmet camera of this man. he had live streamed it on facebook and as you said has now been taken down. the prime minister asking it not to be shared, not to be spread around because that is against everything that new zealand stands for. but it is absolutely chilling. you see him drive to the mosque, music playing in his car.
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he gets out. he gets his semiautomatic weapons and there are three of them in the front seat. he's holding one, walks out to the boot, there's two semiautomatic guns, ammunition and what we presume to be fuel. he walks calmly to the mosque, walks to the gates and starts firing straightaway. he walks through the front doors and starts mowing down every single person in his path. you hear these people who were there for friday prayers screaming and moaning and crying out for help. he pulls himself into a corridor, reloads, walks back outside, continues his killing spree. hy then walks slowly outside of the mosque, gets to the pavement. he turns in one direction, starts firing and in the other direction shooting people randomly shooting people. he then goes to his car, reloads, gets more ammunition, comes back inside into the
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mosque, and any of those people who perhaps were like playing dead on the ground, any of those people who thought i'll just lie here hoping that he goes away, well they were all executed at point-blank range. he went up to each of them and shot them, killed them. he walked outside the mosque. he then stands outside on the pavement shooting in both directions. he sees a woman, he shoots her, she falls. she's saying help me, help me, and he goes up and shoots her in the head. it was absolutely horrific. he then gets in his car, drives off, shoots out the wind screen, shoots out the passenger window and then you hear the police sirens roaring as they're driving to the mosque. as i say, it was just absolutely horrific. >> yeah, no words at all. and of course this happened in a city where muslims have embraced the city, people have embraced them. refugees have come from syria, and people describe, you know,
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these mosques as very peaceful places, very welcoming, very neighborly. and to think that this was carried out as they went there to pray. anna corren, we appreciate your reporting and insights. we know this is painful for everyone involved. >> we'll be right back after this. unpredictable crohn's symptoms following you? for adults with moderately to severely active crohn's disease, stelara® works differently. studies showed relief and remission, with dosing every 8 weeks. stelara® may lower your ability to fight infections and may increase your risk of infections and cancer. some serious infections require hospitalization. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you have an infection or flu-like symptoms or sores, have had cancer, or develop new skin growths, or if anyone in your house needs or recently had a vaccine. alert your doctor of new or worsening problems, including headaches, seizures, confusion and vision problems. these may be signs of a rare, potentially fatal brain condition.
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>> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. we continue following the breaking news out of new zealand. the city of christchurch there where two mass shootings at two
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different mosques killed many, many people. this just a short time ago the prime minister confirmed at least 40 people were killed, 30 at the deans avenue mosque and 10 at the linwood avenue mosque. christchurch hospital is treating 48 patients with gunshot wounds from young children to adults. now, keep in mind it's about 8:45 p.m., 8:44 there right now. this happened around 1:40, 2:00 p.m. local time. >> and still no word on the victims, who they were. they have not been id'd by police. but we do expect to hear from police in the next hour to bring us an update. three people have been arrested but the prime minister cautions there could still be others out there who were involved with this. they just don't know that the danger might not be over. because they also found when they made the arrests cars that were rigged with explosives and one of the alleged gunman was
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wearing a body cam. this is what makes a sick sick story even more sick. he was wearing a body cam and even live streamed what he did, the bloodshed. social media sites have now been taking that down. one attacker is believed to also have posted a long anti-immigrant manifesto giving explanations for the attack. and we're seeing reverberations around the world. we're just now learning police in new york city are closely monitoring the events in new zealand and out of an abundance of caution assessing security at locations around new york city. one can understand that with what has just happened. the head of st. johns ambulance there in new zealand said more than 20 ambulances responded to this shooting and dozens of people now being treated in hospitals. >> here's peter bradley and what he told us earlier. >> we were called to multiple shootings at 1:53 new zealand time and we have ambulances on
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the scene within a matter of minutes, and that's what a terrible situation and scenario for the emergency responders to come across when they arrive. and in the proceeding hours we've transported dozens of patients to the hospital, and there's cleary a number of fatalities. injuries ranging from gunshot wounds to the head and the face and arms, legs and torso and soft tissue injuries of those people trying to escape and make their escape. we had over 20 ambulances responded, over 50, 60 ambulance staff involved, and, yes, all patients taken to the christchurch emergency department where they're now being treated in icu. and they're about to review if any of those patients require transport to other hospitals to relieve some pressure on a very hardworking ed in christchurch.
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>> do you have any sense, peter, of the number of people injured here? we just heard a chilling report from our reporter out of hong kong who saw the video that unfortunately circulated on social media, about there being so many people shot in that mosque. what are you hearing? >> well, the exact number as you might appreciate, the serious patients were trmtansported directly by ambulance and we have patients who went to medical centers, so scores of patients would have been treated and transported. >> we'll take a quick break. more of our breaking news after this. ♪ pardon the interruption but this is big!
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learn all you can... to help protect yourself from another dvt or pe. talk to your doctor about xarelto®. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. and again our breaking news is from new zealand, and a story that you would not typically think to come from such a peaceful country from new zealand. at least 40 people there dead, according to the nation's prime minister and two mass shootings at two different mosques in the city of christchurch. >> just a short time ago we spoke with a witness who was inside one of the mosques when all the shooting started. listen. >> i was actually crying inside of the mosque. and 1:40, 1:45 there was a gunfiring sound coming from the
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backside because i was inside. so there's a barricade in the middle, so if somebody gets inside by using the main door they have to come up inside far and they have to walk like maybe one minute. so what happened is like there was another door, two doors on the left side and the right side. so when i heard that the sound is coming and i thought maybe it's an short circuit or something like that, but it was contin continuously happening. and we were just running towards the back side, and there was a barricade that was there, and still we were like hearing the
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sound of the gun. it just continues shooting for maybe 10 to 15 minutes, and later on i used the back side and came out on the other street. and since then we called the police and i saw that one person got shot on his chest and ambulance came and the police came there and a doctor was taking care of him. that i went onto facebook to explain what is actually happening. and not only this mosque. there's a mosque in the linwood christchurch area. and i talked to my other friends who were at a other mosque and we asked them did the same thing happen there as well, and they told me like five people died out there in that mosque.
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and those people died like on the street, and i couldn't contact two of my friends who were inside the mosque as well. that's what i saw. lots of police and ambulance came and they didn't allow us to go inside the mosque or get close to it. >> that was an interview i had just after all of this happened. he escaped, but again 30 people killed at one mosque, ten people killed at another. >> five hours ago when we started this we thought maybe nine people killed. we appreciate you watching our breaking news coverage here on cnn. >> the news continues here on cnn after the break. ♪ fresh, fresh as the ocean breeze, fresh as the waves... ♪
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we believe that 14 people have lost their lives in this act of extreme violence. >> a terror attack targeting two mosques in new zealand. at least 40 dead in christchurch, 20 injured, four suspects are in custody. also breaking, north korea threatens to suspend nuclear talks with the united states. a stern warning overnight from the foreign minister. welcome to "earlystart." i'm

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