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this happened at christ church as muslims were gathering for friday prayers. the details are developing. some murky at this hour. one person has been charged with murder, three other people are in custody. >> we have this manifesto that the gunman isupposed to have posted on social media. parts of the attack were shown live on social media. authorities are urging muslims in knew znew zealand to stay awm places of worship. the prime minister is condemning the attack saying the extremist views have no place in new zealand or the world. let's go live to hong kong with all of the breaking details. what do we know that the hour, anna? >> reporter: alisyn, as you say, 49 people have been confirmed dead but that death toll could very well rise. there are dozens more who have been seriously injured. they're suffering gunshot wounds. as we say, that death toll could
rise. this has been labeled a terrorist attack. it is unprecedented, this massacre that took place in new zealand. new zealand is a quiet, peace-loving country of 5 million people. it does not see these acts of violence, of extremism on its straits street streets. it is unheard of in the say country that's in shock and has been shaken to its core. but police have apprehend three men, one of those being a gunman. he's a 28-year-old australian citizen. he has not been in new zealand for very long. he posted his killing spree live. he streamed it live on facebook. it went for 17 minutes. the killing spree itself went for six minutes if the was absolutely horrendous, something that nobody wants to see. but this is a man who is going to be appearing in court in
christ church tomorrow. we understand that he just fired upon everyone in his path men, women, children. it was absolutely horrific. let's listen now to one of the witnesses. >> today i dropped my son at the mosque and i went around back to park and it was about 20 to 1:00 and i heard what was gunshots, sort of an automatic device or something. and at the time i was not quite sure what it really was. what i did was i sort of ignored it. then i heard two more after that. so on the third time i thought that doesn't feel very safe, and i saw lots of people running. so i decided to drive. and i did for like -- and i drive past the mosque and there were a lot of bodies outside. so we've just been waiting here since the -- just so see if our
son is all right, but he's not answering his phone. >> a woman who is waiting for word from her son. we don't know if she's been reunited as yet. now, these three wrmen includin the gunmen, none of them were on a watch list, none of them were on a terror watch list. they all flew under the radar as far as law enforcement and intelligent agencies were concerned. this is obviously something that will be investigated. >> so, anna, we are not showing this video for obvious reasons. we don't want to do this monster's work for him. we're going to speak someone from the fbi tells me he saw it and he's never seen an act of such depravity. any message or why he was doing this? >> reporter: it was chilling. we were in tears watching this
because it was cold, it was calculated. this was somebody who had no -- no feeling whatsoever. he carried this out with military precision. if i can just run through what we saw in this video, he drives to the mosque, he gets out, there are semiautomatic weapons, many of them in his car. he walks through the gates of the mosque. he starts firing outside mosque. he then walks through the front doors and mows down every single person in his path. you hear people screaming, people crying out for help. he then goes into a corridor, he reloads and then continues his killing spree. he then calmly walked out of the mosque on to the pavement and by this time people are hearing the rapid gunfire. he's picking off people on the pavement. he then walks back to his car, reloads, returns to the mosque inside and he's shooting,
shooting these bodies on the ground. now, anybody who was playing dead, anybody who perhaps was hiding hoping that this horror was going to end, well he went up to each those bodies and at pointblank range executed every single one of them. it was absolutely horrendous. he then walks outside the mosque. there's a woman standing on the pavement. he shoots her from a distance. he walks up to her, she is pleading help me, help me, and he shoots her in the head. he then gets in his car. he's talking, he's laughing, and he's firing outside the wind screen of his car. he's firing outside the passenger window randomly at people. and what is so bizarre, as you can hear the police sirens roaring past, he gets to a pedestrian crossing and stops and allows these people to cross the road. and we presume from there he has driven to the next mosque and carried out the next attack.
it was absolutely chilling, something that i have never seen in my life. >> anna, i know it's your job to have to watch that video so that you can report it to us. but, i'm sorry that you had to watch all that and it's going to take a long time for your psyche to detox from that and even all of ours from just hearing that level psychopathy. thank you for your reporting. we'll check back with you throughout the program as more news develops. >> joining us from christchurch is radio host chris. give us the situation in christchurch right now. i know it's late at night at that point, friday night where you are. but whats that been like on the streets since this attack? >> it's been eerily quiet. when i was driving from the news talks at the studios i begged my current premises, i never seen or felt it feel so quiet before other than the sounds of
helicopters flying above, the casual police car with its light going past. it's a very surreal experience. what i think many of us here in christ church are trying to comprehend. it this say very quiet city. we've had our experience of terrible natural disasters. it was in 2011 that we had the earthquake that killed so many people, and it felt like, john, in the last six or seven months the city was starting to feel alive again. i was out producing some video footage bas i felt proud of the city. i'll feel like we've seen a new city's being built and as you can appreciate there's been many mental health issues in the city as a direct result of the earthquakes. and that just takes us back. what i said on national radio, before, i was being very honest that when i said we all feel so deflated. wee feel like our city's gone through hell again. we feel defeated. >> you are not defeated.
an earthquake is a natural disaster. an attack like this is manmade and inspired by nothing but hate. talk to me about the two targets here, these two mosques. one of them is one of the largest if not the largest in christchurch. >> it's on dean's there, which is the main thoroughfare of the city. i've been describing the mosque like the friendly neighborhood, the friendly neighbor because it's always played quite an important role in the community. every year for example, john, it opens up its doors to the people of christchurch to show that it is transparent, it's available. i've been there, a couple of young people have film in there before. people are just generous, lovely people. there's a sense that you want to know what goes on there. it's not a closed off environment that you here on some sensational report in other country, it's a very friendly mosque. the same with the mosque in linwood, although it doesn't
specifically look like what you would call a mosque, it's a community hall environment. but once again we're talking about lovely, friendly-oriented people. that's why it's not just a shock, it's an absolute tragedy for everybody, including new zealand because, john, we don't really have guns in this country. one thing we're quite proud of is the fact that when we hear of a mass shooting we automatically think america or northern parts of europe. this is just very foreign to us. we don't have guns. it's not usual for us to have guns. we are a strong hunting -- hunting country, but that's as far as it goes. the right to bear arms is just not in our nature. it's complete opposite. so -- >> the manifesto which we are not reading or putting up again because we don't need to do this monster's work for him, i will tell you it is filled with the language of invasion, anti-immigrant rhetoric, replacement. i know here in the united states we hear a lot of anti-immigrant
rhetoric that uses the words invasion. is that something that is in the political stream in new zealand? >> no. and that's what makes this situation all the more perverse. we are very multicultural country. in fact, following earthquakes, one of the things that's become of the earthquakes that's been a good thing is that christchurch has opened its arms to all types of different communities from all over the globe that have come here. i was raised here, it's been quite a conservative, quiet-natured city. but as of the earthquakes we've had lots of immigrants from around the world helping to rebuild our city. that feels like the lovely richness that the city has been missing for so many years. so in that respect we have welcomed people with open arms and that's why it's shocking the sounds of it, one or two people with some warped idea of immigration or otherwise.
>> chris lynch, thanks for being with us this morning. we are with you and with the people of christchurch on this horrific day. >> thank you, john. joining us now is clarissa word, levi west, and juliet kiam, former assistant secretary of homeland security and national security analyst. clarissa, we want to start with you. obviously you have done long investigative pieces and specials on extremism throughout europe and beyond. and so what is the status of this right-wing extremism? >> it's clear this is a growing problem not just in the u.s., europe, but across much of the world. we've spent the morning combing through this 87-page rant, manifesto, whatever you would call it. it's very difficult, i think, to know how much of this is sincere, how much of it is intended to sort of throw up smoke screens, how much of it is
intended to be deliberately provocative. but the kind of language you hear here, this man saying he was inspired by the right wing nationalist who killed more than 70 people in norway. he also lists dyllan roof who killed nine worshippers in a church in the u.s. and he's driven by this idea, you heard john talking about it, islam is the enemy, muslims are the enemy, they are reproducing at a faster rate than we are. migrants are the enemy. he calls them i vaders repeatedly. he calls on people to assassinate the london mayor, also german chancer angela merkel and the turkish president erdogan. a lot of hate-filled rhetoric and nods as well to the right wing, far right wing memes that have got a lot of traction on the internet. but i do think it will be quite a difficult task for
investigators pouring over this to try to decipher what's a smoke screen, what's real? was he a lone wolf? is he part of a larger network? is this likely to inspire copycat killings of this nature? >> julia, when i read through this manifesto, what truck me is that t struck me is that the language could have been chanted in charlottesville. the word replacement is everywhere the word invasion is everywhere. and i suppose what i want to know and what we need to know at this point is how pervasive is this hate around the world and how provocative is it to, perhaps, spur more violence like this? >> well, the first question how pervasive, it's as pervasive as the internet. this hate of exactly what you said, john, of replacement, of invasion, is viewed by those who believe it as a zero sum game. so we're talking about muslims
today, of course, and what happened in quebec. but then you have charleston, pittsburgh, it's this idea that the white race is being replaced by another race. and then that leads to terrorism. now, how incendiary this is just depends on the reader and how they're going to absorb it and that's the question of radicalization. but the ability to access this information that's out there and the fact it's amplified by people with public platforms in particular, either politicians or religious leaders or rioters, means that people like what we're seeing in new zealand are radic radicalized. that's the process. but we have to view it this is not just about replacement, it's about zero sum, that this is me against a possible replacement. and t and that is why killing is justified. because if they're there, then
that means i'm possibly not here. and that's the scary part of this rise of this right wing sort of white supremacy. >> if this is his manifesto, which is what authorities believe, but these are early hours, it's all about how he cannot deal with the culture that he finds himself in. he's a white supremacist and he can't deal with the shifting culture that is happening around the globe. and he is, you know, suggesting civil war. and he brings up the u.s. a lot. he mentioned president trump. and so, levi, i'm just wondering in terms of the receiptor rake that rhetoric that president trump is involved in, the group of invaders, can you draw a link between violent rhetoric and that kind of invasion language and violence? >> absolutely. i think if we sort of step back from the language specifically and think about the ideas that are embedded in that manifesto, then in the front end of that document it talks fairly
specifically about three key ideas. one is invasion and replacement. the other one is about crushing fertility rates and what he refers to as white countries. and then he closes that out with explicit reference to white genocide. these are not just talking parts of the far right and what extremists all over the world and europe in particular, but they're core ideas that underpin some of the arguments and the justifications for not just extremist movements and ideas but for violence. it's a way of setting up a clear outgroup separate from us the ingroup who need to defend because we're under threat. and that idea which is the really important parts is what an mates people and gives the violence that they engage in meaning and purpose. >> it really is terrifying and people better take notice of what's going on. and, clarissa, as we talk about this bigger picture, i know in christchurch they're primarily focussed on making sure there aren't more people connected to
this crime. you've covered so many terror attacks like this one and you know the first 24 hours are the most important. >> they're absolutely. they want to make sure that this was, you know, they want to ascertain whether or not this was a lone wolf attack, whether there's a larger network at play. it appears to be very well planned and organized. and there's a reference in the manifesto. he says that he's operating individually or independently. but that he was -- he asked the reborn knights t reborn knights templar and that was given by this group. it's not clear who he was speaking to the 'but to the broader point when we're talking about the rhetoric and politics that we see right now, i would like to say that just based on conversations that i'm having with muslims today who are afraid to take their children to friday prayers on this, the muslim holy day, they feel very frightened by what they see as a kind of mainstreaming of
incendiary rhetoric that essentially facilitates and encouraging islamaphobia. and they are very much hoping today i think to hear some strong condemnations coming from all across the world just as muslims are encouraged to condemn attacks by muslim attackers. >> we'll see. thank you very much. we'll have all of the develop mebts on t developments on the terror attacks. north carolina is threatening to suspend nuclear talks with the u.s. after the failed summit with president trump. so we have a live report for you on that development next. . for every 5 lbs you lose, alli® can help you lose two to three more by preventing about 25% of the fat you eat from being absorbed. for the only fda-approved otc weight loss aid, try alli®.
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that was the one thing that the u.s. president said did come away with after that hanoi summit that the north korean leader promised him, there was going to be no more testing. and that was important to him. she also pointed out, quote, the u.s. were too busy with pursuing their own political interests and had no sincere intention to achieve a result reporting the cla repeating the claim never asked for all sanctiontors lifted as the u.s. claimed but only a few of them, those that were affecting the north korean people. interestingly they didn't say anything bad about the u.s. president saying there was still a great relationship between mr. trump and kim jong-un. also saying that the chemistry is mysteriously wonderful. instead, she actually laid the blame for this all going wrong, the door of the u.s. secretary of state mike pompeo and john bolton. alisyn, back to you. >> thank you very much. we will check back throughout the program. meanwhile, there's more breaking news. israel is blaming hamas for two
rockets. israeli defense forces responsible for hitting about 100 hamas military targets in gaza. we're live at the border with all of these breaking details. what have you learned? >> reporter: a hundred hamas targets that were targeted overnight, struck overnight by israel, this in the whaeak of those two rockets landing in tel aviv, the first time that's happened since 2014 that. really represented something of an escalation that no one had really seen coming that the particular stage, alisyn. what we're hearing from israeli media reports is that the israeli defense forces assessment at this stage is that those rockets that were targeted at tel aviv could have been the work of some low-level hamas operatives. that is that they might not have been sanctioned. so really a sense this lunchtime here along the israel/gaza
border of all parties seeking to de-escalate in the wake of this flare-up. we've been hearing that the friday protests have now been canceled. we've also been speaking to a spokesman from islamic jihad, one of the groups that functions within gaza saying thatover night an egyptian delegation present on the ground has been trying to calm things down and that all parties inside gadsa a gaz ar looking for calm to be restored if israel is looking for the same. >> a very important day there, obviously. in the meantime, we have new information on the anti-immigration terror attacks at two mosques. 49 people dead. we are at the scene of the shootings. we'll have the breaking news next.
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world. this is new day. the breaking news this morning, at least 49 people, worshippers inside two mosques murdered in an apparent anti-immigration hate crime. dozens injured. these terror attacks took place in christchurch in new zealand. joining me now is jackson williams a reporter for sky news in new zealand. he joins us from the hospital in new zealand where some of the victims are being treated. give us a accepsense of the lat >> reporter: it's just an awful shocking day here in new zealand as our prime minister jacinda ardern says it's one of the country's darkest days. i'm outside christchurch hospital inside the hospital behind me there. 48 people with gunshot wounds being treated, around 20 of them with very serious injuries. as we know from what police have told us, 49 people confirmed
dead, 41 of those were killed at one mosque, seven of those were killed at another mosque on the other side of crist church, christchurch being a city on new zealand's south island. one person tragically died succumbing to their injuries while being treated here at christchurch hospital. so the death toll as it currently stands is at 49. another 48 people, as i say, they are being treated here. so that death toll could tragically yet rise further given that so many people are in such -- such a bad way. new zealand is considered such a safe place, that's why the events here today have shocked so many people, not just people here in new zealand, but people right across the globe. we know three people in custody, a male in his late 20s has been charged with murder. he will face a court here in
christchurch tomorrow morning. and the other two people believed to be connected to the twin terror attacks in christchurch earlier today also in custody. police continue to question the pair. we do know that earlier today a total of four people were apprehended, were in police custody. three men as well as one woman. but police say only three people now in custody in connection in relation to these tragic events. this is very much a country in shock, a country in mourning. many people struggling to come to terms, to be able to comprehend what's taken place here today. >> all right, jackson williams for us in christchurch outside the hospital, some 48 people killed, another 50 or so injured in the hospital behind you. of course hate knows no boundaries. apparently the edge know sent
trix white supremacy knows no boundaries and as global reach. joining us now, the security analyst, also james galion know, special agent and cnn law enforcement analyst. as we sit here, there are two things obviously of paramount importance, the what now and the why. let's start with the what now, james. as far as this investigation goes, they have one man under arrest, we believe he's the guy behind this hate-filled manifesto. what else is happening and what else needs to happen? >> well, john, in the immediate aftermath of this the prime minister gentlemjacinda ardern t and called it a terror attack. we're a lot more cautious to label it like that in the aftermath but there was enough in the video of the gunman going in and perpetrating this horrific unimaginable crime. as you and i spoke earlier about this, 33 years in the military and law enforcement, i've seen
some things in my time and witnessing the level of depravity that it took to execute people in the was an execution, an absolute terrorist attack. why in the definition of terrorism is violence or intimidation in the pursuit of political goals. this clearly appears to be what this is. >> it's so sickening i can't think about it. i can't think about what you've seen on that video. i know some details, but it's such a shock to our -- the normal psyche that it's really hard to absorb what it is. sam, you were at the white house, you worked at the white house during previous mass casualties. and so typically if we can use that word with this white house, what happens now when there's a mass casualty somewhere in the world like this? >> unfortunately or fortunately there's a protocol that's fold at the white house this mass casualties events happened. i was at the white house when the tragedy in norway happened. what happened is information comes in via the u.s. situation
room. in a situation like this president trump would have likely been briefed immediately because of the gravity and depravity of the incident as well as the fact there's still a real threat to americans based upon the social media presence of this individual and the fact that this attack could still be inciting or directing others to conduct violence throughout the united states. >> if the manifesto is really his are, it's early hours, but it seems that's what authorities believe it is directing others. i spells out how he wants civil war to happen in the u.s. >> yes. >> he cites the u.s. a lot in here. >> exactly. >> he is instructing people do that. >> he is. i want to note it's friday. many muslims are going to friday prayers today, so there's a real risk to muslims today going to mosques around the country. and that's why the next step the white house would engage in would be monitoring threat reporting against high-profile targets here in the united states. but complementary to those efforts, there would be a strategic discussion about the
root drivers of this attack. the reasons that this individual chose to act, the people that were cited in that man test tif the trope that he used which we are hearing from too many leaders around the world. >> including president trump he talks about it, the suspect talks about it i don't know why we would skirt around it. >> how many more massacres do we need before we have a domestic conversation and global conversation about the use of these white supremacist and white nationalists trops. we had the pittsburgh shooter cited an invasion. we had the attempted attacks against members of the media. there was the same kind of language that was used. we have marine le pen, victor orban using this language. and 49 people died in new zealand and that rhetoric say threat throughout all of these narratives.
the white house should have a conversation about how to combat white supremacy. >> is there a fear of the global weaponization of some of this rhetoric, the antiinvasion, the replacement rhetoric? because now we heard it in new zealand, we heard it at the synagogue shooting in pittsburgh. very similar language. >> it's 2019 and we have an unfortunate intersection of law enforcement and politics. i can tell you from 25 years in the fib that's the last thingfb last thing we want. the worst thing that can happen to law enforcement in the afterimagine of somethiafte aftermath of this is not being able to figure out what happened. we know this was a madman. right now in the immediate aftermath, law enforcement is hyper focused because new zealand is part of the five is. we share everything. are there any other plots to be uncovered and are there any other people that, to sam's
point, inspired, enabled, or directed this or are going to do this in the future. >> i can make one point? i agree there should not be poly the liezation. this is not pay political question, it's part of what you're saying, james, that's why law enforcement professionals even technology platforms that are monitoring accounts, look for certain words that incite this kind of violence. >> but facebook don't a very good job of looking for the kind of words than i cite vooimtion violen violence since this was all over. he had facebook, i'm not sure what they're doing, really, if they don't have the competence or resources to shut this down before it happens, i'm not sure what good they're doing. >> this has been reactive. i mean there are was -- there are now three individuals in custody. this was not just a guy that woke up and decided he was going to shoot up several mosques. this was premeditated and this idea was born on the internet. so there was a digital footprint that the technology platforms are reactively reviewing.
>> not helpful. >> it's not like these discussions are only happening in secret plates because a lot of languages in that manifesto is on tv and coming from very official places every single day. >> thank you both very much for all of your expertise. we continue to follow the terror attack in new zealand. also, coming up, did president trump issue a veiled threat to his political opponents? >> outloud is not a veiled threat at all. >> we'll discuss it.
president trump often talks been violence, he's even encouraged it at some of his rallies. but in a new interview with breitbart he goes even further, appearing to suggest that some of his supporters could get violent on his behalf. the president said, quote, i can tell you i have the support of the police, the military, the bikers for trump, i have the tough people. but they don't play it tough until they go to a certain point, and then it would be very bad, very bad. joining us to discuss this is david gregory cnn political analyst and joe lockhart. joe, you were so struck by what the president said that you've
written an op-ed about it on this day of global violence where 49 people are dead because, i mean, i'm only going by the gunman's notes in his manifesto if this is really his, he is inspired by the white supremacist movement, he's inspired by violent rhetoric. what are your thoughts when you hear president trump say that? >> well, i mean, very simply words matter. this is the president of the united states and it doesn't matter what his motivations are, people listen. and in some cases they act upon it, like you can't draw any connection at this point. >> well, i mean, hold on, joe. of course we can't draw connection that the president isn't somehow responsible. >> right. >> however, i'm not drawing the connection the gunman here. >> yeah. >> the gunman at the tree of life synagogue and the gunman or whatever, the psychopath who sent the bombs to cnn who had the trump pictures plastered all over his van, they're the ones
who are drawing the connection about what their motivation was and where they first heard the heated rhetoric. >> again, i think i go back to words matter. i think the insidious thing about this particular comment was this idea that if we don't do things the way trump wants them, then the police will get involved. a police state. the military will get involved. maybe we'll have tanks rolling down the street or the bikers, the hell's angels. and, again, i don't know whether trump is a, you know, evil mastermind or just someone who just never understands what he's saying. but the fact of the matter is, he says these things and it attacks our democracy. he attacks our institutions. he says, i'm not sure that if i lose the election that i'm going to accept the results. and then he says, i've got the military on my side. we hear this in dictatorships,
not our democracy. and the most enduring strength of our country as opposed to around the world, we have peacefully transferred power for 200 however many years and now we have a president who's hinting that maybe we won't. maybe we won't. >> we keep using the word hint. i don't think it's a hint, it's a flat out statement. he's saying vit military, the cops, and the bikers and he's saying this outloud in an interview, david. >> he said during the debates as we recall in 2016 that there may not be a peaceful transfer, you know, that if he lost that he wouldn't necessarily concede. so it's not the first time he's said it. you know, if we live in an age where we say, well, we're not going to take him literally, it's just trump being trump, that doesn't pass. that's ridiculous. i mean, joe's exactly right. words matter because the presidency is about something more than the occupant. it's about an institution. it says something fundamental
about who we are as a democracy and who we are as americans. and you don't do this. at a time when there's so much tox sis pi toxicity coursing through social media and having someone with a mega phone speaking this sway nothing more than a dictator. if the president and those around him are abhorred by the notion that there would be any connection between violence that we see playing out and his rhetoric, then somebody needs to go talk to him. because it's -- we're not making this up. we have a president who talks about -- who uses the language of dictators to talk about the support of the military and the police. it speaks for itself. and there are people who can hear that and see it as a call to arms, quite literally. >> and have. >> i mean, if they don't believe the connection, maybe they should go talk to sayok, the
crazed psychopath with the van with all of the photos of president trump and vice president pence. maybe they should ask him what his trigger was if they really want to know what happens after a violent rhetoric. sometimes the president has claimed he doesn't use violent rhetoric. sometimes sarah sanders has claimed that he doesn't use it. i do not like replaying this stuff because i do think that it's dangerous and it triggers people. but i feel we must when they say that he doesn't use it. so here is -- here are just a couple of examples. there's many more. here are just a couple of examples of the president encouraging violence. >> knock the crap out of them, would you? seriously. okay. just knock the hell -- i promise you i will pay for the legal fees, i promise. i love the old days. now they use dodd with guys like that in a place like this? they'd be carried out an a stretcher, folks.
hillary wants to essentially abolish the second amend meant. by the way, if she gets to pick -- if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. although the second amendment people, maybe there is, i don't know. >> that's the president of the united states. >> yeah. and the comments from yesterday are significant escalation of that, because this is the first time he's invoked the powers of the presidency to, as the commander and chief, to impose his will on this country. and, you know, in response to what i wrote yesterday, heard some people saying you're overblowing this, this is just partisan rhetoric. it's not. this is dangerous stuff. and, you know, one of the things that my reaction this morning was i went looking early this morning for what did the president say in response to what happened in new zealand? and the silence is deafening and it speaks to this. this is a white house that when they want to respond to
something, you know, the president -- the president tweets 40 times a day and all he can do this morning is retweet a story from breitbart. it's sad but also dangerous. >> and just quickly, the fact that trump so overwhelms our system of the news and how we disseminate information, he so overwhelms it one outrageous comment after the other that responsible leaders in the country and his own party say, listen, we're not going to start commenting on everything he says, they kind of let it pass. >> i wouldn't say it that way. >> that's what barriers are dropped. what's that? >> at this point it's not good enough. you have to take a stand and make clear that it's wrong. >> well, we have lawmakers coming up on the program so we will be able to ask them if they feel like taking a stand. thank you both very much. we are continuing to follow all of the developments in the new zealand terror attack and the pilot of the doomed
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new information that concerns the crash of the ethiopian airlines flight and the grounding of the boeing 737 max 8 and max 9, the pilot of that flight apparently knew he was in trouble almost immediately. "new york times" reports the pilot requested and had he a panicked voice to turn back to the airport just three minutes after takeoff because the plane was speeding up ab normally. our anna stew yaart is live nea paris where the black boxgs are being analyzed. >> reporter: the article which attributes all this to say source who was reviewed the air traffic communications says that shortly after takeoff the pilot radioed back to control saying brake, brake, return back to home. but lost communication with the plane. the plane was seen observed to
have oscillated hundreds of feet up and down. if you compare that to the lion air crash from last year, the same type of plane, it's got a similar altitude pattern. are they linked? why did they crash? we don't know but the secrets are here in the bea behind me in paris. this is the specialized unit, one of the only laboratories that can analyze and interpret the data. the boxes arrived yesterday. those are crucial clues to determining what happened. how long will it take? up to 30 days is usual for this investigation. for a preliminary report, maybe less time it depends how damaged they. from pictures they look fairly damaged but you can't tell from the outside what will be inside. >> thank you very much for that chilling update. hearing the pilot's final words was so alarming, obviously investigators are looking into that. we want to get back to our top
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new zeala . >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. good morning, everyone. welcome to your new day. we start with breaking news of the most horrible variety. new zealand is reeling from a terror attack. at least 49 people have been killed, dozens more are injured. authorities say gunfire erupted inside two mosques in the city of christchurch. the blood shed took place as muslims gathered for friday prayers. right now we know one person has been charged with murder. three other people are in custody. >> it's a mistake to think for a second this is just about new zealand. the suspect is believed to have posted an 87-page manifesto on social media before the attack. it is filled with anti-immigrant and anti-muslim rhetoric. he talks about invasion. where else have you heard