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if this requires software upgrade, recertification of software, it could be much longer. >> thanks very much. and to our viewers, thanks for watching. follow me on twitter and instagram @wolfblitzer. tweet @cnnsitroom. erin burnett "out front" starts right now. "out front" next, president trump dismissive of white nationalism on the day 49 muslims are murdered by a white supremacist in their place of worship. plus, new details about the man charged in the terror attack. how closely was he watching the united states. mueller, not done yet. two key trump associates could have more to offer. are more indictments about to come? let's go "out front." good evening. i'm erin burnett. "out front" tonight the breaking news. new video of the arrests. this is the arrest of the 28-year-old mass murder suspect in new zealand. you see him there on the ground in that video. he's then surrounded by police.
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this is the alleged white nationalist who slaughtered 49 people and seriously wounded 20 more in the mass shooting at two mosques in new zealand. tonight, president trump's response was to minimize the issue of white nationalism. >> white nationalism is a rising threat around the world? >> i don't really. i think it's a small group of people that have very, very serious problems. >> dismissive answer on a day when 49 people were gunned down by an alleged white nationalist. the president had an opportunity to denoubs white nationalism, loudly, clearly with the emotion it deserved on a day like this, something that should be easy and is important to hear from the president of the united states. after all, the suspected new zealand shooter praised trump in his 87 page manifesto as a, quote, symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose. but it wasn't just the president's dismissal of white
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nationalism that was so jarring during his 27 minute appearance to talk about his wall today. it was his embrace of the same word, the suspected shooter used in his manifesto when ranting against immigrants. that word is invade. it's a word trump used today to talk about immigrants on the u.s. southern border. >> we're on track for a million illegal aliens to rush our borders. people hate the word invasion, but that's what it is. it's an invasion of drugs and criminals and people. >> and when it comes to the 49 innocent people murdered by that white nationalist in new zealand, they were muslims, another group where the president has stoke the the flames. >> if you have people coming out of mosques with hatred and death in their eyes and on their minds, we're going to have to do something. i think islam hates us.
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there's something -- there's something there. there is a tremendous hatred there. >> it's radical islamic terrorism. okay? there's a lot of hatred. >> right now the suspect in new zealand is in court. we're "out front" in christchurch. what are you learning about the court appearance now? >> reporter: the 20-year-old male has been charged with murder. new zealand police are saying that there are more charges to come. he actually finished his brief appearance in the christchurch district court right behind us not too long ago, so there's quite a crowd around us, everybody trying to wait and see if they can catch a glimpse of him leaving. we did see an armored truck. we're not sure if that's what he's being transported in. for all we know he could have already been whisked away. what we do know about his appearance is it's brief. he was in jail attire. he was silent and according to our cnn journalists that we had in the courtroom, he had a
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neutral expression for the most part. since then he's since been taken back into custody and he's expected to reappear in court on april 5th. that's what we have right now. >> all right. bliss, thank you very much. as you hear bliss describing, a neutral expression on his face. tonight we are learning much more about that hate-filled manifesto, the one that used the word invade and praised the president. the manifesto the shooter left behind. we're "out front." >> reporter: it's a diatribe filled with hate, anger, vows of revenge. 87 neatly formatted pages of ranting about immigrants, minorities and muslims. more than 16,000 words that the 28-year-old who says his name is brenton tarrant posted on social media before the attack. he calls immigrants invaders and says immigration must be crushed and like other white nationalists he says there's agen know side of white people underway. it's the kind of toxic message
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heard in charlottesville and from the charleston massacre shooter, dylan roof. the new zealand shooter references roof's attack. and the norwegian mass murderer who killed 77. >> these are people who i would say have extremist views. they've had absolutely no place in new zealand and in fact have no place in the world. >> the u.s. president is also referenced once calling president trump a symbol of renewed white identity though he says he doesn't consider trump a leader. the suspect claims to not belong to any organization and decided to carry out the shooting, which he admits, is terrorism on his own. an attack, he said, he had been thinking about for a couple of years and chose the targeted mosques three months ago. he expresses no remorse for those he planned to kill, even
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the children. with white nationalism growing, he points to a number of global events that fueled his hate, including a terror attack in sweden's capitol when an asylum seeker plowed a truck into a crowd killing 5. >> erin, new zealand is usually such a calm and peaceful place and the fun man said that's why he chose it, to show that nowhere is safe. the choice of the weapons that he used in this slaughter, guns, he said it was made specifically to rile up the debate here in this country, the united states, over the second amendment. erin. >> alex, thank you very much. i want to go now to democratic congressman, andre carson. i appreciate your time. the president, as you heard, was asked specifically today about white nationalism and said he doesn't think there's any rise of white nationalism in the world. what do you think?
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>> i think it's unfortunate when he's speaking about muslims, when he's speaking about islam, erin, he's speaking in absolute terms. he's speaking very boldly. he's making broad generalizatio generalizations. unapologetically so. when he talks about white supremacy, supremacists, he's saying a few, some. this is disappointing. he's been dog whistling enough talking about making america great again, taking it to a great place that never existed but he's given the past, dog whistling to white supremacists since his campaign began and i think the message of xenophobia, islamophobia as it relates to his presidential apparatus has been disappointing using trigger words like invasion, they, them, other. i think he's framing this as an us against them matter. he doesn't have to be as blatant
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with his relationship with white supremacists, dog whistling is enough and he's met the objective. >> i mean, so, can i just play again what he said when he was asked. as i pointed out, right, he appeared today to speak not with a purpose of speaking about what happened in new zealand, right? he wanted to come out and speak about the wall, the southern border and his veto. so when he was asked about white nationalism, here's the moment again. >> white nationalism a rising threat around the world? >> i don't really. i think it's a small group of people that have very, very serious problems, i guess. >> that's what you're referring to, right? so there he says small group of people. when he talks about muslims he says i think islam hates us. if you have people coming out of mosques with hatred and death in their eyes, we're going to have to do something. again, small, some.
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islam, they. he's speaking in broad terms about muslims and the religion of islam and white supremacists he's saying small groups and some. it's unfortunate. there's an imbalance in his language. there's been an imbalance with his campaign apparatus. my hope is president trump will think more seriously. in fact, when the congressional black caucus met some time ago, i was in that meeting about his language relating to muslims. keeping americans safe. thwarting attacks that we'll never hear about on cnn, other news outlets. he responded he'll think about what i said. i also encouraged him to continue funding for law enforcement officers. i think president trump is
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smarter than he leads on given the fact he's had muslims work for his organization and his investments in muslim countries but i'm disappointed at the fact that he's speaking to a particular part of his base that is very extremist and they have proven themselves to be idealogues. >> he was the suspect, of course, cited him as, you know, a symbol, right? symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose. this word echo of invade. obviously that was what the shooter referenced in his manifesto when talking about immigrants, antiimmigrants. the president of the united states obviously happened to today talk about his wall and in a very, very erie and unfortunately word echo used the exact same word to talk about brown people. let me play that again.
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>> we're on track for a million illegal aliens to rush our borders. people hate the word invasion, but that's what it is. it's an invasion of drugs, criminals, and people. >> congressman, you just said he's smart. he is smart. he knows not to say something like that today so why did he say it? >> president trump is very smart. i've met him many times. he's gregarious, he's charismatic and he's smart. i think what's disappointing about it. smart people can be misleading, smart people can be duplicitoud, smart people can be opportunistic when it comes to solidifying political power and rewarding those who helped him get and assume the power. >> choosing to say that on a day like this this horrific day.
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he knows it's a dog whistle. that's white supremacy, isn't it? >> it is white supremacy. it is. he's smart. he's smart enough to say i stand with white supremacists. he has to dog whistle. he knows he cannot get away with being as blatant. i don't think he would ever do that. what i do think he's not beyond is making sure that those folks in his base who probably can't be aligned with him publicly know that i still appreciate the support, i am with you, i am over here and they've heard the message loudly and clearly. >> all right. congressman, thank you very much. i appreciate your time tonight. i'm so sorry for this. >> thank you. >> this horrific thing and your community, what you are going through tonight. thank you. >> we're standing firm. thank you. next, cities all over the world on high alert tonight. there's a number of domestic terror arrests in the united states on the rise. plus, robert mueller signals he's not done yet with two key
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the united states on high alert tonight. police across the country increasing security following the terror attack in new zealand and this comes as we are learning the fbi has seen an increase in domestic terror arrests in the past few months. josh campbell is the one "out front" with this news. josh, tell us about it. what about this rise? >> reporter: erin, we're getting data from the fbi. this is a snapshot in time. this is looking back to the last available data for the last few months of 2018. we're hearing there were 25 arrests of the domestic terror side. this is what the fbi is dealing with. on the domestic side, the officials were describing the volume of arrests they're having to deal with. it's important to note it's too soon to draw an annual take away. it is on par with some of the arrests they've seen. new data we're receiving there, it shows and as we've learned as we've talked to officials, although a lot of it is on the
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international terror side, it stops radicalization here at home on the domestic terrorism front. briefly on the mitigation strategies, domestic terrorism is different than international terrorism. when you think of an individual communicating with a terrorism group over seas, those produce a vector to intercept cases, build cases, share cases. when you talk about a domestic terrorism group that is insular in nature, it's hard for officials to tap into that type of network. what we're told is this makes the public more important. if you see people gathering weapons, talking about hatred. the officials want to know that. >> josh, thank you very much. i want to go to julia kayan and
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bob bahre, former cia operative. you have this increase in arrests and you have the rhetoric of what we're seeing. what is driving this yup particular, do you think? >> so there's probably a variety of factors. one is obviously the globalization of information and therefore hate so that the individuals standing alone feel like they're part of a community. the second is the law enforcement and national security to focus violent extremism on the isis al qaeda side of the ledger rather than the right wing extremism side of the ledger and the third is clearly a political atmosphere, whether it's here, in europe or elsewhere that does not condemn, albeit safe here, does not condemn this kind of language. i think those three factors
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explain a rise in those other factors like the economy and globalization. >> right. >> that's why we have to view this as a movement rather than isolating each case as a lone wolf. if we don't see it as a movement we won't put the resources or knowledge behind stopping it. >> look, bob, you know, the suspect in new zealand, 28-year-old man. from what we understand, what we are being told by the prime minister there, this person spent a lot of time traveling around the world. this person thought about doing this attack in a lot of places. one of them could be here. he chose new zealand because it's a quiet place. he wanted to make a point about the united states and guns. this is not like this is some person who is a lone wolf. this is a person who could have done this anywhere. >> absolutely, erin. we've talked about this before getting weapons in this country is very easy. you go to a gun show, buy one,
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even in fact use a car. that's never a problem. what he was doing in new zealand is trying to incite americans to pick up arms against outsiders and in this movement it's much more dangerous right now than the islamic state. as juliet was saying, we can intercept communications from overseas, but domestically the fbi needs a warrant and they're hard to get and it's hard to penetrate these groups. >> look, juliet, this is also the point when bob says this is much more dangerous right now than islamic terror. you have a lot of rhetoric out there that at best is problematic. no rise in white nationalism. using the word invade today to talk about people of color coming into the united states on the same day you have a person massacre people calling immigrants invaders. that's just some of the
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rhetoric. >> right. >> coming from the very top in this country. >> yes. and it's not an accident and trump isn't careless or whatever. >> no. >> this is consistent feature of the president of taking one thing that say an african-american or a muslim or an immigrant does and imploding that into a national emergency and then refusing to look at the totality of circumstances of the threat that right wing extremism poses to us and saying maybe the guy was crazy or we don't know what he really believed. the president knows exactly what he's doing. i cannot get into his heart, but what i can say is that the failure to condemn this from the top as compared to say what the new zealand prime minister did gives a sense of acceptance if not lack of condemnation to those who believe it. now most of those people are not violent, let's just be clear here, but some percentage of them will be and they will not hear the isolation of their
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hatred that needs to come from the top. it's not excusable. it's not carelessness. this is a purposeful tactic, you know, from the beginning, from the elevate -- from coming down the elevator. >> what is the purpose here? what is the purpose here, bob? >> he's appealing to his base. this is dog whistle politics and it is racism. you can't describe it any other way. when he called immigrants animals it was the same as adolph hitler used to call foreigners animals. jews and gypsies. it's the same politics. it's neonaziism. he may not advocate violence, but for a lot of people that listen to him as juliet said, its a an insightment to violence. >> next could there be more investigations that impact president trump? we're going to tell you what team mueller is revealing tonight
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sarah marie is out front. so they're not ready to end those so what could that mean? >> reporter: look, it could mean that president trump's legal woes will continue. this uncertainty is still going to be out there. we know there are these off chute investigations that are still going on. when we look at rick gates, we know he played a huge role in the inauguration. we know that is under investigation in new york. it makes sense he would still be cooperating with that investigation as well as the special counsel. for michael flynn, the tricky thing is we don't know what other information he's given the special counsel. they may not need to continue talking to him but they have transcripts of all of the interviews they've talked to him. who knows what else that could be used for. there could be the storm cloud and certainly a big question mark hanging over the head of the president other than his orbit for quite some time. >> sarah, thank you. author of the threat matrix,
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garrett graff, former white house correspondent. april ryan and harry sendrik. garrett, do you think this means more indictments from mueller are on the way? >> i do think that and i think we're going to see one final round of indictments probably right at the same time he files whatever his finished report is. in part because there are a lot of unanswered questions in the cases he has filed and we know he has been holding back information in certain parts of these indictments, holding back other halves of conversation, holding back information like in the paul manafort case that he still hasn't told us about the con stand teen kilimnik meeting and the polling data. we only know that from paul manafort's side and the redactions he screwed up. >> right. >> mueller has gone out of his
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way in every court filing to tell us extra information, sort of what we call these speaking indictments. the fact that he's not telling us certain information leads me to say he's saving is it for a certain date. >> harry, i know you also believe what this means. >> yes. >> not ready to move on could mean mueller has more to come, right? >> i agree with garrett. there have been all of these little clues. another one was in the roger stone case where they've said a senior campaign executive was directed to contact roger stone. you could say that sentence in a more direct way than that. mueller and his team, they elected not to do that. what happened actually in that meeting. i think the gates report today is the real tell because everyone else is being sentenced. they're ready for flynn to be sentenced. manafort, they're not going to
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cooperate him. they don't want gates sentenced. they were very vague about why. >> april, this comes in the context of the president ramping up his attacks against mueller saying there shouldn't be a report which goes against pretty much all of congress. so he tweets today the special counsel should never have been appointed. that is what goes against everyone in congress, right? this is a guy who says witch hunt, hoax, no collusion or some combination of the three. if that's the case, why not say, bring it? put it out there. i have nothing to hide. please, dear god, bob mueller, put your report out. >> erin, you know this president basically leans on the understanding that his name is everything and this mueller report could not only taint his name but his brand and his efforts to secure the white house. you know, as mueller is going for the original mandate of
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obstruction and conspiracy. whatever comes out -- we're not used to the thing normal people, average americans not used to a lot of things that donald trump finds normal or president trump finds normal or what he used to do as citizen trump, we don't find those things normal. he is afraid we will see how he works, who he really is. >> yes. >> this could be damaging for his persona, his image, his brand and, you know, it could be damaging for his family structure as well. >> so, you know, garrett, you know, i want to bring up a point that harry just did, right? that there are just things out there that, you know, mueller does everything very carefully, right? you don't put something out there that's going to cause everybody to wonder without having a plan, and by this i'm referring to the roger stone indictment that harry did, right? the exact line was after the release of stolen e-mails by organization one, that's wikileaks, a senior trump campaign official was directed to contact stone about
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additional releases and other damaging information organization one had. so somebody more senior than a senior campaign official is directing to get stuff from wikileaks. obviously richard bloumenthal said that's either donald trump or donald jr. do you think he put that in there on purpose, that that's relevant? >> i have to think that we are going to and that he's going to tell us as part of some final round of indictments. you've seen these bread crumbs across the indictments. in the gru he had the precise phrase how when donald trump went out and made the russia, are you listening comment, that the russian hackers acted upon it. they returned to their office that night and for the first
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time attacked hillary clinton's server. again, when you say something like for the first time, when you say it was directed, you're actually changing the burden of proof that you as the investigator have to meet. >> right. >> these are cases where bob mueller is adding additional information that actually makes his own job harder so he's only going to do that if these phrases matter, if the facts that he's pointing us to connect in a way that he hasn't told us yet. >> right. he could have said and that night they did it, but for the first time it implies a level of direction or, i don't know, coordination. we shall see. mueller got praise last night from somebody who is surprising and that is abby lowell, jared kushner's attorney. lowell says mueller has conducted his investigation with great integrity, quote, i don't know of a special counsel who's done it better. what is that all about?
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jared kushner has nothing to hide, there's nothing here? or is it something else? >> i think it is partly that. we've seen all of these attacks on mueller from trump's lawyers, but the normal way if you're a good defense lawyer to deal with the prosecutor is to say that you trust that they're going to be fair, they're doing a good job, you hope to be clear, things like that. that's more what abby lowell is doing rather than going around screaming witch hunt over and over again. i think it's perhaps likely that he knows that kushner is not within the scope of what mueller is doing at this point, but i think it's also what you would say even if you weren't sure of the outcome to try to demonstrate to the prosecutor -- >> trying to be a fair player, straight shooter. >> exactly. exactly. >> what do you make of it? >> we're not used to sanity in traditional lawyers when we hear
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from those in the trump family, i.e.,, rudy giuliani and michael cohen. this is a sign, again, that, you know, jared kushner's name has not been bantered about in this whole scheme in the last few years of this investigation, not as much as others and others in his family but this is a way to be fair and to make sure that they're saying we're expecting great things or things to be okay for our client. >> thank you all. trump loves to call the steele dossier a fake, but we know some of it has been verified and we have new evidence tonight that could further support that dossier. and trump's first veto to find congress to get his border wall. can the veto withstand a legal challenge? makes you feel like you can do it all.
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new tonight, president trump slamming the steele dossier on twitter calling it the, quote, fake dossier paid for by crooked hillary. let's just make sure we share the facts with you. it was paid for, right, by a conservative website funded by a republican donor. that was the firm that paid for the dossier to get it started. as far as it being fake, we have a lot we don't know. we do know several allegations
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in the dossier are true and tonight we're learning more. pamela brown is "out front." >> reporter: new evidence about how russian intelligence might have exploited a private web hosting company in an effort to trick democratic targets into giving up their passwords. the fruits of those hacks formed the basis of the wikileaks dumps that royaled the race. this according to expert analysis done on behalf of buzz feed and by anthony perante. >> the scope of our investigation, myself and my team, was to conduct a technical investigation to determine the accuracy of the allegations stated in the steele dossier. >> reporter: the 35 page dossier by christopher steele claims
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guberof played a significant role. he has denied involvement in the hack and sued buzz feed for publishing that portion of the dossier. the analysis does not show that he or his company knew anything. an attorney for guberof says special counsel robert mueller indicted the 12 russians responsible for the hacking, not us. >> what we determined was there were 15 specific and unique instances in which we could tie xbt infrastructure or its affiliates to significant cyber activity. >> reporter: but it does not explore the fact that the trump campaign colluded with the russians. >> the phony dossier. >> reporter: over the last couple of years special counsel robert mueller's russia investigation as well as congressional committee probes
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have corroborated some of the portions of the dossier, including the russians tried to get better relationship with trump by offering him lucrative business deals. >> zero. zero. i have nothing to do with russia. zero. zero. >> reporter: trump's former fixer and personal attorney michael cohen testified that he and trump were in fact negotiating a potential deal about building a trump tower in moscow with it continuing in 2016. despite past denials of ever doing business with russia, trump now brushes the project aside. >> this deal was a very public deal. everybody knows about this deal. i wasn't trying to hide anything. when i run for president, that doesn't mean i'm not allowed to do business. i was doing a lot of different things when i was running. >> reporter: despite trump's claims of little to no contact with russia, we have learned that, in fact, at least 16 trump associates had contacts with
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russians either during the election or the presidential transition. one such interaction took place in june 2016 at trump tower in new york when donald trump jr., jared kushner, and paul manafort all met with several russians who offered dirt on clinton. and clad mir putin himself has admitted one of the central allegations of the dossier was true. >> translator: yes, i do, because he talked about bringing the u.s./russia relationship back to normal. >> reporter: it's important to note that other parts of the dossier have not been verified, including the claim that has gotten a lot of attention. the claim that michael cohen traveled to prague in 2016 to coordinate with russians in order to cover up the russian meddling. cohen has recently denied this including under oath to congress. >> pamela, thank you. and next, today the deadline for the white house to give congress information about trump's meetings with putin so
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resolution. i have the duty to veto it and i'm very proud to veto it. >> out front now democratic congressman ted lu who sits on the house judiciary and foreign affairs committee. the president signs his first veto. it will go back to the house. does not appear you have the votes to override. his veto would stand. what now? >> thank you, erin. let me first say my heart goes out to the families in the tragic attacks in new zealand. your question, what's significant is not the veto, both houses rebuked donald trump. that's going to help us in our court case because there's no way that congress would have intended a law to be interpreted in such a way that we would have allowed the president to bypass our appropriations of powers when both houses said no to him.
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>> when you say strengthens your court case. the president's attorney general spoke out and said he seems to think he has the legal they're not going to be able to override. it's going to go very quickly. as your attorney general just said, it's a very strong case, a very powerful case. i think actually a national emergency is designed for a specific purpose like this. so we have a great case. >> and that absolutely, absolutely, obviously was attorney general barr. you're a former prosecutor, congressman. do you think that barr is right, they have the upper hand? >> actually not. congress passed the national emergency law for the president to act when congress could not if there was a time issue an a real national emergency. congress not only acted, we acted to say no so i think we're going to win this court case. just on the facts alone, there
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is no national emergency based on trump's own data from his own administration. border apprehensions have declined 75% from 2000 to 2018. based on the fbi's latest data, violent crime and property crime are both down across america. >> pamela brown was talking about the dossier, the steele dossier. obviously highly controversial. she was reporting on another part of it that may prove to be true which specifically referred to how russian intelligence hacked into democratic targets during the presidential election. do you think there are further things to come that would further prove the dossier to be true? >> it's certainly possible because over time more and more allegations in the steele dossier have been confirmed and corroborated. in fact those who have read it and those who have gone through it don't say it's false. so devin nunes' memo that he wrote with the house republican
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intelligence staff, they say the dossier contains salacious details. they never say the dossier is false. so i think as we go more and more into this dossier, you'll see more and more items being corroborated. >> i want to ask you about the news tonight, three house committees, your foreign affairs among them, said the state department appear the white house, this was their day. they have until midnight to give you the information and details about president trump's meetings with russian president vladimir putin. have you gotten anything from them at all? >> i have gotten no indications from either my staff or committee staff that we have gotten any information from the white house. i would be pleasantly surprised if we actually got some information because donald trump tried to hide this information from his own administration. >> what are you going to do about it to get them to comply? do you have any other tools? >> right now the administration has been quite obstructionist and they are denying and really
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not trying to work with congress on a number of requests that different committees have put forward. so if they do not provide this information we requested, we'll try to continue to negotiate but at some point we'll have to start issuing subpoenas. >> all right. thank you very much, congressman lieu, i appreciate your time. >> thank you, erin. next, campaigning for president 2020 style. >> i saw your tweet, and i am delighted you're all onboard. nothin mes easily. that's what happens in golf and in life. i'm very fortunate i can lean on people, and that for me is what teamwork is all about. you can't do everything yourself. you need someone to guide you and help you make those tough decisions, that's morgan stanley. they're industry leaders, but the most important thing is they want to do it the right way. i'm really excited to be part of the morgan stanley team. i'm justin rose. we are morgan stanley.
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and tonight the political ground game, elizabeth warren taking her 2020 strategy to a new level by trying to do it through selfies. m.j. lee is outfront. >> it's elizabeth warren. >> get out of town. >> no, it really is, grace. >> reporter: in a crowded democratic field, elizabeth warren is thinking small. >> i'm in this fight all the way and it means a lot to me that you're in it with me. >> reporter: picking up the phone to personally thank donors. >> i really do appreciate it.
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>> this is going to fly well in iowa. >> reporter: for the massachusetts democrat, it's one way to take the pulse of the country. >> i get a chance to hear from people. i get to hear what's right at the top of their minds. also i love it because it's just for a moment, a spark of this is how democracy is supposed to work. >> reporter: like most of her democratic competitors, warren is rejecting money from corporate pacs, but she's turning away money from all other pacs. she's also vowed not to solicit money from wealthy donors during the primaries. >> and i don't go off to closed-door meetings with millionaires. i'm here with you. >> reporter: instead of high-dollar fund-raisers, it's all about the one-on-one outreach and phone calls. >> so what pulls you into the fight? >> reporter: and facetime with supporters. after every campaign event, warren spends sometimes hours taking photos with everyone who waits in line. >> look at me. >> reporter: the campaign is also looking for supporters through social media.
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warren, surprising this iowa woman with a phone call from the road. >> i saw your tweet, and i am delighted you're all onboard. >> reporter: according to her campaign, warren has done 29 photo lines this year and posed with over 9500 people. >> it will be everywhere. >> i'm going to definitely tweet it. >> reporter: but the competition is stiff with the democratic field growing by the day. >> i'll get a picture with you. >> i would love that. >> reporter: this is social media savvy cory booker, and senators kamala harris and bernie sanders, both drawing big crowds. sanders also raking in big bucks. his campaign says it raised a stunning $10 million in just the first week of his 2020 bid. >> hello, new york city! >> reporter: warren admits she's taking a gamble. >> i'm leaving money on the table, there's no doubt about that. >> reporter: hoping every phone call and every handshake will pay off in the end. >> think of it as a foundation. this really solid foundation of
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people who are truly committed, who get the issues, who are willing to put something of themselves into it. >> reporter: m.j. lee, cnn, new york. >> and don't miss cnn's presidential town hall with elizabeth warren monday at 9:00 eastern moderated by jake tapper. thanks for joining us. "ac 360" starts now. there is no gentle way to begin the hour except to say that we will try as best we can to tell you about and honor the lives of the 49 people murdered in the anti-muslim terrorist attacks this morning at two mosques in christchurch, new zealand. they were shot and killed in the very place for some perhaps the only place they could come once a week to make sense of the world and make peace with themselves. there's not much we know about the victims at this point. we wish we could tell you more about who they were in life to give you a sense of what has now been taken away. so how then do we honor them tonight? well, at the very least we're not