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physical retail sales in america. amazon, 49% of all online, so this is a big deal. if you want to sell onto, you're a little guy, you're trying to get your business started, you're an entrepreneur, you got to be there. so amazon runs this platform. you come to the platform. all sounds great. but amazon also is collecting information on every single buyer who visits and on every single seller who's there and on every single transaction. and what it does is it has the capacity to look out there and see, you know, pete's pet pillows and say, whoa, pete had a good idea here. he's making money off this. so here's what we're going to do. we're going to take pete off page one, move him back to page 16 where nobody goes, and then amazon pete's pet pillows is going to step right in front of him. you know, think of is this way
like in baseball. you can be an umpire on the platform, or you can have a team in the game, run one of the businesses competing with the other businesses. but you don't get to do both at the same time. [ applause ] so here's my pitch. i just want to break those two things apart. i want you still to be able to go and check out all the coffeemakers you want to check out. the platform works, but nobody gets to suck a lot of information off the platform for the purpose of being able to put a bunch of little businesses out of business. we want to have more competition in america. break up those tech giants. we can make that work. [ applause ] >> the next question comes from rodney smith. he's a lawn maintenance creditor here in jackson. rodney. >> hi, rodney. >> good evening. the cities of america have crumbling infrastructure. how would you combat these issues? these are problems that everyone
knows about but have failed to do anything about these problems. >> right. all right. good question. so, look, think of infrastructure this way. i kind of think of it like a farmer plows the fields. we get out there together through our government, and we build the roads and the bridges. we put up the communications system. we do these things together because you can't start a little business and at the same time try to build the road in front of your house, right? so you need all these pieces to make it work. farmer does a good job of planting the fields, it means a lot of seeds get to grow and go forward. what's happened in america is we've cut back on making those infrastructure investments. and you all see it every day. you see it in your lives. you see it when you see roads that are crumbling, bridges that are dangerous. yeah, you're all seeing this, right? so understand it's worse than
what you see because america competes all around the world now. that's just the reality. and right now, here in america, we are spending about 0.6 of 1%, just a smidge on our infrastructure. in fact, some people say it's not even enough to replace what's breaking apart. china, by comparison, is spending about 5% of its gdp on infrastructure. it is spending eight times more, almost nine times more on its infrastructure. it's building a future for those small businesses, for those medium-sized businesses, for those giant businesses. it is building a future for work in china. we need to step up our investment in infrastructure right here in the united states of america. [ applause ] that's how we build a future.
and i'll add one little piece to it and say when you take a look at the green new deal, understand this is about building the infrastructure for the 21st century, for a sustainable world. [ applause ] yes. >> let me bring in maggie spiff. she works at a public library in madison, mississippi. maggie. >> hi. >> presently the state of mississippi imposes a special tax on owners of electric and hybrid vehicles as a penalty for paying less in gas taxes. do you believe this is the right approach considering the warnings about climate change, and what would you propose to encourage increased use of alternative energy? >> okay. so can we just start with the issue of climate change? and i want to say something that is very controversial. so most of you are sitting down. maggie, is it? you may want to sit down too,
okay, or just hold on to a chair. because i spend time in washington. in washington, this is a very controversial statement. i believe in science. [ applause ] climate change is real. it is manmade, and we are running out of runway to be able to fix this problem. we need all hands on deck on this one. so i mentioned earlier as part of infrastructure, we need to be thinking about infrastructure in terms of hardening our infrastructure against the climate change that's coming our way and in terms of building green energy infrastructure. we need to do more, though. we've got to be working in every single direction. more money on research. more money on how we get our vehicles so that we get to a
place where we have a sustainable earth. this is truly the crisis that faces not just our nation but the world. the united states is a world leader. the problem is we are leading in the wrong direction right now on climate. we got to go the other way. we've got to show the world what can be done. thank you. >> senator, i just want to follow up on maggie's question because she talked about the gas tax. as you know, the federal gas tax has not been raised since 1993, leaving many states to fend for themselves to maintain the roads and bridges. would you support theoretically raising the gas tax to pay for the infrastructure needs? >> so, you know, i'll tell you what worries about doing this through gas tax. i'm open to the conversation, but what worries me is it falls hardest on working people. when i talk about raising taxes, what i really want to see is i want to see an ultra millionaire's tax. i want to see taxes on the top, and then let's use that to help
subsidize what it is that we really want to see -- cleaner vehicles. that's the direction i'd much rather see us go. i want to get us there, but i want to do it the other way. >> the next question comes from ali mac, a longtime jackson resident, who served as the dean of international studies here at jackson state university. dean mack? >> what is your position on the impeachment of donald trump? >> so we have a report that is due from the special prosecutor any day now. understand that that investigation from mr. mueller has produced already -- i believe it's 34 indictments or guilty pleas. this is a serious investigation. we need to protect him in
finishing that report, and then that report needs to be made public to the american people. when we get it, we will know what to do with it. thank you. >> senator warren, you sit on the senate armed services committee. i want to introduce you to daniel bam rick, a u.s. army veteran who is now a research lab technician. >> hi, daniel. >> hey, senator. good evening. >> thank you for your service. >> thank you. your family too. >> thank you. >> as a veteran, i've seen the amazing capable of our armed forces. >> mm-hmm. >> but i was also shocked to see the lack of clearly defined goals and objectives comes down from the highest level. it also worries me that military service itself is becoming a very uncommon experience -- >> yeah. >> -- for the u.s. population at large. so as president, my question is what would you do to provide clear, achievable goals for our military and to broaden the
participation rate of american citizens in what is their government's largest organization? >> yes. thank you, daniel. thank you for the question. >> thank you. [ applause ] >> look, with three brothers in the military, my oldest one spent more than five years off and on in combat in vietnam. we were lucky to get him back home. and my second brother was overseas for over a year. my third brother trained as an army medic. i understand the sacrifices that our military makes and the sacrifices their families make. i stood there every day and watched my mother as she waited for the mail to hear from my brothers. we have the best military on earth. they will do whatever we ask them to do. they will go out and fight and, if necessary, die for us. but that puts a sacred responsibility on our leadership
to understand that around the world, we cannot use our military to solve non-military problems. [ applause ] we need to be willing to use all of the tools in the tool diagnose bbox, and that means we need to be using our diplomatic tools much stronger. we need to use our economic tools, and we need, when we do feel absolutely pressed to use a military alternative, we need to be clear not just on what our objective is going on, what the measure is of success, but what our plan is to get out on the other side. [ applause ] we cannot fight endless wars. it's wrong. >> so daniel worked in syria. he served in syria. you said it's, quote, right to get our troops out of syria, but you did criticize president trump for failing to plan the withdrawal. >> yes.
>> with u.s. allies. the u.s. is currently planning to leave 400 or more service members in syria on what is being called a peacekeeping machine. would you as president keep any troops on the ground in syria, and if so, how many? >> i think we need to get out. we need to get out. until someone can identify -- and this is the whole point about it. i ask this in hearings in arm ted services. what is the measure of success? if you're going to be there, describe, let us see so we can tell if you're failing or succeeding at this. and no one can come up with an answer. and until they can do that, we need our troops back home. >> i want to bring in jada lee, a public health educator from jackson. >> hi, jada. >> hi. good evening. mississippi has one of the highest maternal mortality rates in the nation. black and brown women make up the majority of those who fall victim to higher rates of pregnancy-related mortality. >> mm-hmm. >> although some of this
disparity can abtributed to lack of access, other issues are less easily explained. how would you administration create legislation to improve outcomes for these women? >> so it is an excellent question. let me tell you something i've already been working on in this area. this is a place where we need not only more funding for the national institutes of health to be able to do the research, but we need to insist that the national institutes of health is actually doing research and keeping track of male/female, african-american/other races, so that we better understand all of what's wrong. as you say, we know that part of this is related to lack of access, but that's not explaining everything that's going on. i believe in research, and we've got to support it so that it supports all of our mamas and all of our babies. it's very important. [ applause ] >> thank you. >> senator, i want to bring in
michael barber. he's a freshman here at jackson state university. he says he's currently supporting senator bernie sanders' presidential run. >> hi, michael. >> good evening, ma'am. my question is we have seen recently kid who's have the luxury of parents paying their way into school no matter the gpa. the kids who attend inner city schools do not have that luxury or the resources to excel. how would you not only improve, but make the educational system fair for all american people? >> all right. so thank you. you know, this scandal just shows one more time that some folks who are rich just think they don't have to play by the same set of rules as anyone else and that they can use their money to do whatever it is in terms of buying influence. we have to put a stop to that, and it's not just -- it's everywhere now. we're here talking about a presidential primary. it's everywhere in washington.
you know, i just -- i want to say something about democracy for a minute. i get that we have a lot of differences. there will be some people who have a little more money, some people who have a little less, some people who go further in school, some people who don't. but the one thing we should all own an equal share of is an equal share of our democracy. we need a government that doesn't just listen to the rich and the powerful, but a government that listens to all of us. and that starts right now in a democratic primary. something you can ask everyone in the democratic primary who wants to ask for your vote is to ask them where they've been and how they've gotten their funding. me, i don't take corporate pac money. in fact, i don't take pac money of any kind. [ applause ] i don't take federal lobbyists' money. [ applause ] and i don't go behind closed
doors with people of money and influence to try to get their help in this election. i come here to be with you. [ applause ] because i believe that our democracy is really on the ropes. we have a country that's working better and better and better for a thinner and thinner slice at the top. in 2020, we have a chance to take that back. we have a chance to build a real grassroots foundation, face to face, person to person, neighborhood to neighborhood. and if you believe that is how we should be running our presidential primary, i ask you be part of this. go to elizabethwarren.com. be part of this. make a contribution, volunteer. we're going to have to build this thing ourselves because democracy is not a machine that
will go of itself, and government, our government, is not for sale. we need a government that works for the people, and that means the people have to be there as part of it. thank you. [ applause ] >> i have one final question for you, senator. faith is very important to many people across the country. it's very important to many people in mississippi. what role does faith play in your life, your public life and your private life? >> so i was raised as a methodi methodist, and i was a fifth grade sunday school teacher. all i can say is nobody got hurt. it was a low bar for being a fifth grade sunday school teacher at our church. and i raised my children in the methodist church. what it is for me is the importance of the lessons we
learn when we remember our values, when we remember our faith. the story for me is matthew 26, and i'm sure some of you -- a lot of you know this story. you know, this is the one where the shepherd is dividing the world into the sheep and the goats. and as we all know, sheep are going to heaven. goats, nah, they're not. and the sheep ask him, why us? why us, lord? why did you pick us? we look like those -- like those guys. and the shepherd, the lord, answers back by saying, "i was hungry, and you gave me food. i was thirsty, and you gave me water. i was in prison, and you visited me. naked and ye clothed me. inasmuch as you have done it
unto one of these, the least of thy brethren, you have done it unto me." and what i hear in that is two things that guide me every day. the first is there is god. the there is value in every single human being. every single human being. and the second is that we are called to action. that passage is not about you had a good thought and held on to it. you sat back and were just a part of -- you know, thought about good things. it does not say, you just didn't hurt anybody, and that's good enough. no. it says, you saw something wrong. you saw somebody who was thirsty. you saw somebody who was in prison. you saw their face. you saw somebody who was hungry, and it moved you to act.
i believe we are called on to act. [ applause ] >> our thank you to senator elizabeth warren. thank you to our audience and to jackson state university. great questions. be sure to tune in wednesday night at 10:00 p.m. eastern. dana bash will moderate the next cnn democratic candidate town hall with former democratic governor john hickenlooper. "cnn tonight" starts right now. >> thank you. anybody want to do pictures? hello, everyone. this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon, and you just heard from democratic presidential candidate senator elizabeth warren in cnn's town hall at jackson state university in mississippi. you see the crowd still there. the senator no doubt heading down to that audience, answering questions from the audience members for well over an hour. you can see she's still there. she's going to take some
questions from the folks now informally, not in front of the camera. but she answered a lot of questions, handled herself pretty well this evening. i didn't get to see the entire thing as i was getting ready to come in here, but it seems like she had an answer for everything. i didn't see any moments that, you know, might preclude her from having to -- well, at least she won't have to answer them at least. she may have to follow up, but i didn't see anythings that going to hurt her in there. i want to bring in julie pace, austin herndon. mark preston. there he is. mark preston, you're there. not sure if he can see us. good evening to all of you. so good to have you on. mark, an incredibly crowded field. i thought she handled herself well. what stood out to new what dyou? what did you think? >> a couple things. i was backstage with her in between breaks. she seemed to gain energy each time she walked back onstage. this is clearly her format.
she enjoys interacting with people. this is something i think we're going to see elizabeth warren do more and more of, not just doing this these town halls in new hampshire and iowa, but across the country and perhaps these national and international town halls where she's taking these questions. she talked about reparations. she talked about funding, doubling down funding for hpcus, a very important topic here at a historical black university. she also talked about impeachment with donald trump, but she didn't go as far as some other people. she said let's wait for the mueller report. let's try to protect robert mueller. when it comes to the mississippi flag, don, which still has the stars and bars on it, she was very, very brief in her response when asked whether mississippi should change the flag, she said yes, which drew a lot of applause here within this auditorium. and of course she talked about health care, and she talked about jobs. elizabeth warren right now is behind me. she is trying to meet everybody in this room.
i suspect she is going to be here for at least an hour trying to shake hands, trying to talk to voters. very important time in this campaign, i think. you get them early, don, and they stay with you. >> absolutely. she did say something too that i found interesting. she said, i'm going to say something that's a bit controversial right now. i believe in science, and that drew a rousing round of applause, mark. >> yes, she certainly did on climate change. of course the number one issue for a lot of democrats right now. but when it comes to climate change, she said she believes in science. again, this is one of the top issues that democrats -- liberal democrats want to hear from these candidates. as you said, a very crowded field, so they have to try to differ ren shat themselves. elizabeth warren starts out the day yesterday in memphis, down in mississippi, heads over to alabama tomorrow. the first major candidate in this year to do so. i spoke to the mississippi democratic party chairman. he was elated that she was down
here. i suspect, don, we're going to see more candidates in the coming months coming to states like mississippi, perhaps over to louisiana, alabama, georgia, states in the south that we didn't see democrats campaign before. >> yeah. let's bring in julie in. julie, i want to get your reaction to these moments from senator warren, speaking about minimum wage and a tax on the ultra rich. watch this. >> today in america, a full-time, minimum-wage job will not keep a mama and a baby out of poverty. i am in this fight because i believe that is wrong. today i hear them in washington. they ask, what will improve the profitability of giant multinational banks? well, i want a government that doesn't work for giant multinational corporations. i want one that works for little families like mine. but there's one more we got to talk about, and that is my ultra
millionaires' tax. so the idea is on the truly great fortunes, $50 million and above, we start charging 2% a year on just that 50 millionth and first dollar and on up. 2% a year. by the way, anybody in here a homeowner? you've been paying wealth taxes for a long time. they're just called property taxes. i just want to include the rembrandt and the diamonds in the property taxes. >> so what do you think there as we look at elizabeth warren, julie? what do you think? she's saying particularly because she has a lane with senator bernie sanders on this issue when it comes to progressive ideas. >> this is warren's sweet spot, things like the minimum wage, taxing the wealthy, these are the issues that really catapulted her to stardom in the democratic party, particularly among liberals. they are the issues she's been
talking about in her life well before she was in politics. so she speaks about them with quite a bit of flunsy. she also has a really natural way of connecting the policy prescriptions she's talking about to real people's lives. she talked about her own family's history, people she meets out on the campaign trail. she's really unapologetic about these policy prescriptions as well. now, for some voters, even in a democratic primary, some of the things she's talking about might be too aggressive. they might be seen as going too far. but she is not going to budge. she's not going to be one of those candidates is that is going to move on any of these issues because they are so central to her brand, and they are really what she believes in. >> this is your first appearance as a political analyst for us, so we're happy you're here on cnn. thank you so much. give me your reaction tonight about how she speak about issues important to the left, issues important to the base of the democratic party? >> well, senator warren benefits
from a couple things here. she's run over 30 town halls last year in her senate re-election campaign. she's run on 30 more in the early stages of her presidential race. so there's no question that she's going to hear in a forum like that that she hasn't already heard. you could see that tonight. she's ready to talk fluently on these type of issues, and this is her wheelhouse. this is a harvard law school professor. she's comfortable in that question and answer setting. she knows the mastery -- she has mastery over her policy settings, so that's going to be a real advantage for her. what i think is interesting from what we saw tonight is she's using this mississippi setting to talk about issues of race, to talk about explicit racial discrimination. you saw the moment on reparations. you saw the moment on confederate statues and asking for them to come down. but she's also talked about housing earlier today in northern mississippi, and she's going to talk about that tomorrow in alabama, about housing discrimination and
investing more specifically in formerly red line communities that affected african-american. >> astead, again, welcome and thank you. and my thanks to julie and mark as well. we appreciate you joining us from the town hall in jackson, mississippi. i want to turn now to the president's weekend of grievances. his weekend of rage tweeting over and over and over and over. before this president took office, it would have been unimaginable. the leader of the free world spending hours tweeting about one of his favorite tv shows, complaining about another. taking pot shots at a late war hero and on and on. but this is how you know what he really cares about. the president's tweets, the clearest window into his state of mind. don't just talk my word for it. i want you to listen to one of his top aides today. >> his social media platforms are a direct way for him to communicate with the country. >> so what did the president want to communicate with the country about this weekend? what was he really fired up about?
not the real crucial problems facing the country and our world. nope. this president's using his bully pulpit to get jeanine pirro's joe back on fox news, tweeting, bring back judge jeanine pirro, and falsely accusing so-called radical left democrats and the news media of silencing her. i should point out the obvious here. it was the powers that be at fox news who took jeanine pirro off the air for however long that lasts. according to a source, they did it because she said this about congresswoman ilhan omar. >> think about it. omar wears a hijab, which according to the koran 33: 59, tells women to cover so they won't get molested. is her adherence to this islamic doctrine indicative of her adherence to sharia law, which in itself is antithetical to the united states constitution? >> and the president defends her in spite of that bigotry, on the
same weekend people around the world mourn the 50 muslims killed in a terror attack during friday prayers at christchurch in new zealand. after he completely failed to condemn the rise of white nationalism that killed them. >> do you see today white nationalism as a rising threat around the world? >> i don't really. i think it's air sma small grou people that have very, very serious problems, i guess. >> the acting chief of staff mick mulvaney seems to have drawn the short straw, defending the president this weekend. >> i don't think anybody could say that the president is anti-muslim. >> really? he seems to be able to say it himself over and over and over. >> i think islam hates us. there's something -- there's something there. there's a tremendous hatred there. there's a tremendous hatred. i don't notice swedish people knocking down the world trade
center. there's a muslim problem in the world. by the way, and you know it, and i know it. donald j. trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states. >> here's a tip. let me give you a tip here. when you have to keep saying the president is not a white supremacist, you know there's a problem. but the president, president trump had some more -- >> is not a white supremacist. i'm not sure how many times we have to say that. >> but the president had some more twitter thoughts on tv shows, complaining that "saturday night live" knocks him over and over. come on, the president of the united states? he should be bigger than that. anyway, snl was a rerun this weekend. so maybe they don't knock the president as often as he might think. he also took time out this weekend to slam the late senator john mccain, a genuine war hero, who devoted his life to service to this country, slamming him for passing on the fbi a copy of
the steele dossier and for voting against the bill to replace obamacare. president trump showing you right there what he really cares about, his grudges against anybody who crosses him for any reason. the late senator's daughter, meghan mccain, fired right back on the view today. >> he spends his weekend obsessing over great men because he knows it and i know it and all of you know it. he will never be a great man. i just thought, your life is spent on your weekends not with your family, not with your friends, but obsessing, obsessing over great men you could never live up to. >> yeah. >> that tells you everything you need to know about his pathetic life. >> and then there's this tweet, slamming france and the paris climate accord the day after students marched all over the world to demand action on climate change, the climate change that threatens their survival. a 2018 report from the u.n. said world leaders only have 11 more years to avoid the disastrous
levels of global warming. we have a new tweet from the president just tonight pointing out that he is donating his salary for the first quarter of the year, $100,000, to homeland security and claiming that the press doesn't like writing about it. au contraire. the president is putting his money where his mouth is, sort of. that $100,000 is a little over 1 1.1 -- 1,000 of a 1% of $85. billion that he requested for the wall in his budget last week. so there you go. we're talking about. remember earlier when you heard from kellyanne conway defending the president's tweeting? well, we heard from her husband too. her husband is george conway, tweeting screen grabs from the diagnostic and statistical manual of disorders, and anti-social personality disorder and going on to tweet, quo, all
americans should be thinking seriously now about trump's mental condition and psychological state, including and especially the media, congress, and the vice president and cabinet. his wife certainly disagrees with him. >> no, i don't share those concerns. >> now, let me be clear. none of us are in a position to diagnose mental illness of any kind in this president, and that includes george conway. but something just isn't right about what the president was up to this weekend. just not right. let's talk about it now. ryan lizza is here, michael d'antonio, the author of the truth about trump. good evening, gentlemen. amazing what we witnessed this weekend. ryan, 50 tweets and re-tweets in just 48 hours. the president slammed a late war hero, senator john mccain, pushed conspiracy theories, defended a fox news host who made very offensive comments, but never mentioned the attack on two mosques in new zealand that killed 50 people.
what does that say about this president? >> well, he never mentioned the mosque attack because it's not about him in any way. the only context he mentioned it was the criticism that the rhetoric he uses and the movements that he is accused of inspiring somehow was related to the attack. that's when he mentioned something, it has to be personally about him in some way. i mean as you said at the top, don, you know, his twitter account is both horrifying in some ways but also, you know, like a car crash, you can't take your eyes off of it because it gives us this incredibly unfiltered look into, you know, the leader of the free world's psyche. and, you know, one, it has to be about him for it to be important to him. and, two, you get a sense of what he sees as a threat, you know? you know, he's not the only one like this, but on twitter he's
often responding with, you know, the sort of lizard part of the brain. you know, it's that quick, impulsive, i'm mad at something part that social media brings out in people and him more than anyone else. so you see what he's threatened by. he's threatened by the media criticizing him, so he goes after snl. he's threatened by fox perhaps not being as propagandaistic in his favorite, so he tweets in support of the weekend host that lost, you know, her show for one night. and he tweets about things like mueller, and then he rage tweets about people who it still bothers him were more popular and more successful, like the late senator mccain. so it does all have a theme, and you do actually learn things about, you know, his state of mind. >> you know, i mentioned this earlier. it is a window into his soul if you will. i mentioned this earlier, george conway tweeted out the medical
definitions of narcissistic personality disorder and anti-social personality disorder. a lot of these things may seem to apply to the president. none of us can diagnose him, but currently conway feels very strongly about this, and it's surprising considering who his wife is. >> you're right. and i hear every day from mental health experts who are concerned about the president's condition. there's actually a book written by 36 psychiatrists, psychologists and social workers, each of whom diagnoses the president. so there is a problem here. this is a very troubled man. and you look at what he did about "saturday night live" and john mccain, and so you've got a television show that's in reruns and a senator who has been dead for many months. they own him. this president is being owned by a tv show and a deceased senator. this is something that americans have never faced before. i think we're all right to be concerned about it. i think george conway raises a
valid point as do the critics who noted that this is a president who defended anti-muslim comments by jeanine pirro but couldn't seem to come to the defense of muslims in new zealand or offer reassurances to muslim-americans. he's very stingy with his concern for anybody who doesn't fit his base definition. >> mm-hmm. this is new tonight. ryan, let me get this in because trump's campaign manager brad parscale tweeted out about george conway. he says, we all know that @realdonaldtrump turned down mr. kellyanne conway for a job he desperately wanted. he beararely worked at the just department and was either fired, quit, doesn't want the scrutiny. now he hurts his wife because he's jealous of her success. potus doesn't know him. >> it's my understanding george
conway actually introduced kellyanne to donald trump. i'm pretty sure i've got that right if i understand that history. and the conways lived in a trump building. that's how they knew him. so it's wrong to say that george conway doesn't know trump. he very much started the relationship -- the conways' relationships with trump. you know, look, i think one of the problems with -- i think the biggest problem with trump's tweets and the way that he's coursing into the public dialogue is not just trum. i mean we all know how he is and what he's going to be like. when i look at my phone on sunday and see 50 tweets, at this point you sort of roll your eyes, and it is normal. what i think is more worrying is how it has bled into the larger republican party and frankly to people who should know better. so to me, what was even worse this weekend than trump's tweets was when the main republican account @gop tweeted out a
disgusting, anti-irish meme attacking beto o'rourke as a drunk, you know? i've lived 44 years, don, and i don't think i've ever actually encountered anti-irish bias, right? that was sort of erased in america, right? to bring that back, that, to me, is what is worrying is that you have so many republicans who have now coarsened and degraded themselves by joining in with this kind of rhetoric. >> yeah. well, i'm glad you said that because let me put that -- because that, and then this response from brad parscale tonight doesn't address the substance of the issue of what mr. conway was talking about. but it's very trumpian. he insults him, calls him mr. kellyanne conway. he was turned down for a job. he was fired or either quit. he didn't want the scrutiny, and he's jealous. all attacks on him but not
addressing the substance of what he says. >> this is all unworthy of our public discourse. i think we don't need to hear what brad parscale has to say about this. we certainly don't need to see this kind of bigoted commentary about irish-americans. but think about who would be better informed than george conway about donald trump and what goes on in the white house. what do mr. and mrs. conway talk about at night? they talk about what happened at work. well, what happened for you, dear? well, what happened to you? her stories are going to be hair-raising. this is a woman who has been in the white house longer than anyone else. she knows everything about what goes on there. i think george conway is consummately well informed. remember, it was spouses in the case of martha mitchell, during the nixon administration, who helped bring down nixon because they got fed up. they started to tell the truth to reporters about what was really going on. so i would watch out for the
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that they have the opportunity to claim executive privilege. pamela brown joins us now live. pamela, good evening to you with the breaking news. >> good evening to you. >> what are you learning tonight about the white house plans on the mueller findings? >> well, we've learned, don, that the white house wants to review any version of mueller's report that the attorney general, bill barr, intends to share with congress before lawmakers and before the public sees it. and this could be a flashpoint. this could set up this political battle of this hotly contested document. so basically these white house lawyers, don, we've learned, they want to have the opportunity to assert executive privilege from any of the information gleaned from interviews with white house staffers or other documents that were turned over to mueller's team over the course of this nearly two-year investigation. now, the president has the right to assert executive privilege. it's something that the president can do to protect conversations he's had with other officials, to keep them confidential. but, of course, this could be litigated in court if it's challenged, and it's something
that democrats would almost certainly do. so we very well could see this battle playing out soon because we're expecting mueller to hand over his report to the attorney general any day now, don. >> speaking of battles, i mean there's going to be a political one, i'd imagine, because it seems like the president may be trying to shield some of it. so there's definitely going to be a political battle with democrats saying, hey, all of this should be released, and the public should get to see it. >> right. so that's sort of the political battle that could play out because you have a situation, just the perception of the president putting his thumb on the scale or looking like the president's shielding information going out to the public in an investigation that has swirled around him since day one of his presidency. so while it's the president's legal purview and the white house's legal purview, there's this political aspect. i spoke to one source who said, look, there's always this tension between the political optics and what's best for the institution, in this case, the office of the presidency.
and this person who is close to the white house says protecting executive privilege trumps the political optics. but, again, we're likely going to see all of this play out very soon, don. >> mm-hmm. so also tonight, the house judiciary chairman jerry nadler says he is encouraged by the responses they've received from their investigation into president trump. what else do you know? >> that's right. he spoke to reporters today, and he said since they released those 81 letters to different individuals and entities, there's been a response, quite a response of tens of thousands of documents going to his committee or commitments to provide those documents. so nadler said today to reporters that he's been pleased by the response so far, and he also said he may issue what's called, in his words, friendly subpoenas to some witnesses who basically indicated to him that they need cover through the means of a subpoena. and so he sort of indicated today that that may be something
that he does in order to give witnesses cover to cooperate with his committee, don. >> pamela brown with our breaking news tonight. pamela, thank you so much. >> thank you. congressman steve king posting a meme to facebook, to his facebook page, claiming red states would beat blue states in a modern-day civil war. but it gets a lot more offensive from there. e no man behind. or child. or other child. or their new friend. or your giant nephews and their giant dad. or a horse. or a horse's brother, for that matter. the room for eight, 9,000 lb towing ford expedition. with 25 million bookable [can we switch sides?] [yeah!] in hotels... [maybe, like tilt] resorts... homes and more... [you got it?] [oh that's good, yeah]
another civil war. one side has about $8 trillion while the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use. the post was later removed from his facebook page. so now we want to discuss it. keith boykin is here as well as alice stewart. good evening to both of you. thank you for coming on this evening. alice, i want to start with you because you know representative king. you spoke to him about this meme. why was this ever posted? >> don, thanks for having me on to talk about this. look, he says this was put up by someone on his staff that manages his facebook posts and as soon as it was brought to his attention, he recommended that it be taken down. he says this is something he certainly would never personally advocate for civil war and this is a -- this is a meme that was posted, and he disagrees with it. i asked him if it had been brought to his attention before it was posted and they asked for his permission. >> okay. >> he says that he would have recommended that it not be put up, but i think more than
anything the fact he realizes this was offensive and something that should not have been posted in the first place and it was taken down. >> okay. >> we can all agree -- >> in the interest of time. >> he might not have done that. >> i want to try to get keith in. we're truncated because of the town hall. what does it say, alice, about king that his staff thinks that's something that he would or should communicate to his constituents, that he would be okay with it? >> look, at the end of the day this is something that someone on his staff decided that they wanted to put up. the congressman saw it and decided it should be taken down. >> okay. >> because it is offensive. and that's the takeaway. >> are they going to take action? are they going to be fired or disciplined in any way? >> he didn't indicate that was going to happen, but i think the main thing is he realizes that it shouldn't have been put up and it's no longer up there. >> so, keith, i want you to weigh in. you heard what she had to say. you know he was stripped of his committee assignments for a controversial quote in "the new york times."
you know, all of this is happening while the president's acting chief of staff has to say -- deny that the president is a white supremacist. >> right. it's crazy. yeah, i don't know if i buy steve king's response to alice, first of all. i feel like he hasn't apologized as far as i can tell. he just took it down, right? secondly, he hasn't disciplined the staff member who allegedly put that up there against his will. >> that we know of. >> that we know of. thirdly, he has a history of saying statements exactly like this. this isn't the first time he's made a statement threatening civil war, talking about the possibility of civil war in the white majority loses its power. it's perfectly on message for this to be said. it's so tone deaf because this happens on the day after 50 people were shot and killed by a white supremacist in new zealand and trump is going on talking about "snl" and the republican national committee is busy
tweeting drunken stereotypes about irish people and steve king is threatening a civil war. this is exactly the tyime you want the country to come together and not be divided. trump isn't helping with that at all. the republican party isn't helping with that at all. steve king is not helping with that at all and trump has not condemned him. he didn't say a word about steve king or this outrageous meme. >> alice, there a lot of memes on his facebook page. dozens in the past week. >> look, i think more than anything we can all agree this particular meme was inappropriate. it was offensive. there is no place in the public arena for a meme like this, and the congressman when it was brought to his attention, he ordered that it be taken down. >> two days later. >> i'll push back on something that keith said. the congressman, while he has said a lot of things in the past that i disagree with, he is not and never has and never would advocated for civil war. i think that's highly -- >> he has threatened the
possibility of civil war. >> factually incorrect and not what he's doing here. >> alice, he has threatened the possibility of civil war in the white majority loses its power. that's a fact that's on record. go check that out if you don't believe me. this is not inconsistent with his past statements at all and that's the reason why people believe that he probably did authorize this, or at least his staff thought he would authorize it. >> out of time. thank you both. i appreciate it. white house lawyers say they expect to see mueller's findings before his report ever gets to congress or the public. will that spark a huge political battle?
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this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. robert mueller's report on the russia investigation hotly anticipated on capitol hill and at the white house. it could come any day now. tonight, multiple sources telling cnn that white house lawyers expect to have an opportunity to review mueller's findings before attorney general bill barr subm