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anti-vaxxers are harassed by pro v v vaxxers. jill launched a campaign to encourage people to get flu shots. >> i don't want anyone to lose their child. >> reporter: you're not giving up? >> absolutely not. >> reporter: elizabeth cohen, continu ontario, canada. >> imagine being harassed after your child dies. >> it is unthinkable and disgusting. there are big developments in the mueller investigation. breaking news from syria. "new day" continues now. >> there is something unseemly that the person who might be the subject of derogatory information. >> this sets up a political battle over the hotly anticipated document. >> i will commit to providing as much information as i can consistent with the regulations. >> he's begun obsessing over
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great men because he will never be one. >> george conway raises a valid point. this is a troubled man. >> no, i don't share those concerns. >> biden is all in. he'll try to seize command and control of the race. >> every vote matters. get rid of the electoral college. >> she's ready on the issues. this is her wheelhouse. >> announcer: this is "new day" with alisyn camerota and john berman. >> good morning. it is tuesday, march 19, 8:00 in the east. alisyn is off. erica hill joins me again. >> nice to be back. >> we have big new cnn reporting. the white house wants to get hands on the mueller report before you do. not only that, the white house wants to limit what you see from the report. overnight, cnn learned white house lawyers are expecting to review the report before attorney general bill barr hands it over to lawmakers. they want the change to claim executive privilege on documents provided by white house
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officials. this is sure to set up a political battle on capitol hill and potentially a legal battle that could go to the supreme court. >> we are following breaking news. u.s.-backed forces in syria captured isis fighters they believe are linked to the suicide bombing in january that killed four americans. the attack coming weeks after president trump announced he would pull 2000 troops out of syria. we have a live report with breaking details in moments. >> joining us now, former federal prosecutor, david gregory, and jeffrey toobin. jeffrey, i want to start with the news of the mueller report. the idea that the white house counsel's office want their hands on the version that bill barr edits already and they want to claim executive privilege on it before congress gets their hands on it. it is their right to do so. >> right. rudy giuliani told me and others months ago that all the documents and interviews that were turned over to mueller over
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the course of the investigation were done pursuant to reserving the right to object to the public disclosure of anything covered by executive privilege. he said the president may do that. that decision is up to the white house counsel, not to the president's lawyer. but obviously there is a lot of coordination there. it's worth remembering that robert mueller is part of the justice department. so he has no choice but to abide by whatever the justice department influenced by the white house does in terms of public disclosure of the report. >> it occurs to me thinking through the reporting on this, remember how much time don mcgahn, former white house counsel, spent with the special counsel's team. presumably one of the things we are looking at so closely is what were the deliberations like, what did the president say and to whom about why he was firing jim comey. they could argue it's all
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executive privilege. >> all of it. >> absolutely. it is true that nothing involving the campaign and presumably the transition would be covered by executive privilege. you can only have executive privilege when you are actually president of the united states. but a big part of the mueller investigation includes the early days of the presidency -- the firing of james comey and whatnot. much of that could be covered by executive privilege and thus censored by the white house before it becomes public. >> the president needs to be able to have important conversations. that being said, if congress gets this -- i think one of you said earlier this morning, ends up getting a version with more redacted than there is not, there will be push-back. but there is not a lot of ammunition legally when it comes to pushback on executive privilege. >> that's right. you do want to have the president of the united states be able to have candid conversations with people who were in his cabinet, who he
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relies on for advice as well. you want it as well as for separation of powers. you want the candor. you cannot have the executive privilege to thwart the judicial process. the president is head of the executive branch charged with actually enforcing the law. the supreme court is weighing different ways about theish is. but the notion that the president could use privilege to hide a crime or undermine justice would not be what the balancing test seems to be. it's really executive privilege is a fulcrum balancing two things. the president's right to have candor and candid conversations and the public's right to know and the fair administration of justice. when those two things are weighed against each other, the courts will say, hold on. is there some basis to use the privilege to silence or supress information or is it being used as a pretext to hide something else? jeffrey is right that this only
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covers things once he was inaugurated and mueller is looking into the campaign aspects. unless there was somebody talking to president trump about the actual campaign or going forward, the privilege may not be as exhaustive as they believe. >> let me raise a scenario where this gets complicated. the president, we know, dictated a response that turned out to be false when the "new york times" reported details of the trump tower meeting where don jr. was promised dirt on hillary clinton from the russians. the president of the united states, while he was president, engaged in an action potentially robert mueller could say to deceive the american people. he did it while he was president. is that something they could claim privilege over? >> absolutely. the attitude of the white house towards the mueller investigation has gone through a dramatic transformation over the year-plus of this investigation.
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when ty cobb was in charge of the response the idea was we have nothing to hide. we'll allow interviews, documents to be produced. emmet flood has come and taken over the role. he comes from williams & conley which believes in never giving an inch on anything. you see it now in the white house response to the document requests from the congressional investigations. they are giving them nothing. that's going to be the approach. i anticipate that to the extent the white house has a chance to object to disclosures, they will object to every disclosure. >> look how boxed in they could be because of the justice department guidelines that you can't charge the president. congress still has a role to play here if the president engaged in actions that they think amount to high crimes and misdemeano misdemeanors. the obligation to provide a check and balance.
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that's something for the courts to work out. there is a compelling interest to say we need the information even if it falls short of what the special counsel considers a crime. even if he does it may not be something he would recommend given the guidelines. congress has to try to go through a narrow corridor. >> it's played out, david. who does that help more politically? >> i don't know. i think the president and his team are going to get credit for fighting the fight, whether it's asserting executive privilege. they also have an interest toing loo for anything in the report that tends to exonerate or underplay expectations and make the argument it was a lot of to do for little. >> laura, go ahead. >> this will be litigated. the president can assert executive privilege, but it doesn't make it so. i can assert i'm the queen of sheba, but that doesn't make it
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so. even though he was president at the time he may have had the conversations, number one, if it deals with matters that happened before he was president of the united states or matters outside the purview of why we have the candor based from discussion of privilege based on your duties as the president it can't be for crimes related to family members and over matters. it is narrowly read. ask nixon about how it works when he tried. he ended up having to resign four days later. >> i agree with the queen, as usual. >> of sheba. >> just of sheba, not of the world. it is true that nixon lost u.s. v. nixon, but that was a case brought pi -- by. a rose in the crown of a criminal case. it was a trial subpoena. when congress tried to subpoena the white house tapes during
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watergate. the congressional committees lost. that's worth remembering. the congressional committee has less of an interest, according to the courts, than a criminal trial has in getting access to material covered by executive privilege. >> we are talking about a political world filled with humans. i believe if the mueller team puts together a report to give to the attorney general and they feel somehow by the time it goes through the barr scrub-down and the white house, the part that's refle ub shared doesn't reflect what was found. do you think mueller tries to get the word out? there are a lot of enterprising reporters who may try to get it. >> there is no question about it. this is washington. there are a lot of people looking at this. the idea that what he found won't find its way into the public domain is impossible. both contemporaneously and those
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like jeffrey who will work on it afterward. no question about it. but we should bear in mind the political calculation of the white house. the conventional wisdom of we don't want to look like we are hiding something. they don't kwcare. the president called it a witch hunt from the beginning. they'll fight it and not worry about the consequences >> jeffrey, we're counting on you. we are following breaking news. u.s.-backed forces in syria captured isis fighters they believe are linked to this suicide bombing in january that killed four americans. that happened just weeks after president trump announced he wanted to with draw u.s. troops from syria. the attack taking the lives of jonathan farmer, scott wirtz and two language specialists. shannon kent and ghadir taher. barbara starr has the breaking news for us. >> reporter: u.s. defense
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official confirmed a short time ago u.s.-backed fighters in northern syria in february did capture up to five isis fighters. they are not saying exactly how many at this point. they are being held by the syrian-backed democratic forces. the u.s. has had access to the fighters and has interrogated them. they do believe these people were involved in the planning and execution of this suicide attack in january that took the lives of four americans and several syrians. very important news for all of those families who lost loved ones in this attack. we don't yet know if there is a plan for the people to be transferred possibly back to the united states and face federal prosecution. that has happened in the past in previous terror attacks. we'll have to wait and see on that. it does come at a time, of course, when the debate is very heavy about what will happen now in syria, how many u.s. troops
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president trump will allow to be left behind to help continue the fight against isis. there are about 2,500 u.s. forces in syria. the president wants that number to draw down to a residual force of several hundred. that work is going on. but this event now underscores how important it may be to keep a u.s. presence, if for no other reason than to continue to collect intelligence about what isis is up to and hopefully thwart future attacks. erica, john? >> barbara starr for us at the pentagon. we'll have a live report from syria on the ground in just a little bit. the husband of a top trusted adviser to the president questioning the president's mental state. doug, doug! douglas! we're running dangerously low on beans. people love your beans, doug. they love 'em. doooooooooug!
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suffers from a personality disorder? >> i'm not a mental health professional. i have no idea whether the president suffers or anybody suffers from anything. all i can tell you is the president is doing things that i think are harmful to his ability to win re-election. they are harmful to his ability to get things done in washington when he does these things. for two years i have been pleading to stop the personal attacks on twitter and focus on a great record of accomplishment that's been reflected in the fact that now 71% of the american public in your own poll suggests the country is moving in the right direction. he's doing a lot of good things. he just continues to step on his own good news message. >> what do you think he's doing? i want to get back to the personality disorder. what do you think he's doing to hurt his re-election chances? >> any time he distracts from a lot of positive news out there on the economy and what he's
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doing on trade. i mean, he's on the precipice of completing a trade deal with china. talking about that, talking obviously about the job numbers, the fact that wage growth particularly in the bottom part of the american workers, those low wage workers are seeing wages increase for the first time higher than high wage workers. those are good things he should be talking about and focused on. any time he does the personal attacks it gives the media the opportunity to not talk about those things and talk about the attacks. >> would one need to have a personality disorder to launch these kinds of attacks? >> some people have a shorter fuse when it comes to taking personal criticism. if that's the case i know a lot of people with personality
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disorders. >> it is possible that someone could launch these attacks and be stable. i'm not sure you need a personality disorder. >> look, i don't know george conway. i know kellyanne conway. she's been a friend for a long time. i don't know her husband. i don't understand -- you get a lot of attention when you tweet these things but i don't think it adds to the discourse. >> do you think they are important questions to ask? >> not from someone like him. he's a lawyer. if you have someone who's dealt with the president from a therapeutic point of view that's one thing. that's not the case here. >> at one point it was rumored you were being considered for a possible white house chief of staff. i don't know how true that was. did they contact you on that? >> i have made it clear from talking to the president even before he was sworn in that i was not in a position to take
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anything on the administration. no. i made it clear where i am in my own family situation. >> were you in a different place in the family situation, and the answer would have been, okay, i will do it. what would you have told the president about his twitter use? >> i wouldn't tell him anything different from what i'm saying on the air. one thing that's really important and my wife and i talked about it last night. i'm going to give the president what i think is the best advice for the interest of the country. i'm not going to sugarcoat it because i happen to support what he's trying to do in his agenda. i do support it. i'm not going to sugarcoat it when he does things that i think undermine his effectiveness. this does. >> does it undermine the republican cause? >> look, if it undermines his effectiveness then by definition, in my opinion, it undermines the republican cause. his popular and success is tied
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to the electability of republicans across the country. >> one thing he was criticized for is the coverage post new zealand. one of the things the president would not do is suggest he's seen a rise in white supremacy or white nationalism around the world. yet he was very critical as many people have been that democrats refuse to call out radical islamic terrorism by name. is he somehow being hypocritical here by refusing to say white supremacist, white nationalists are a threat around the world? >> someone who called out radical islamic terrorists for a long time and, in fact, criticized president bush and president obama for not calling them out by name, i credit president trump for doing it. you're right. he has to be consistent. when you see people act in ways that are hate-motivated you need to call it out, no matter what it is and tell the truth.
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>> do you think he should do that? do you think it's a mistake not to? >> it is a mistake. the president, his credibility is he's a truth-teller. truth teller in the sense he says things that are politically unpopular. he says things that are politically incorrect. he needs to do that with respect to folks, you know, particularly in this movement of white supremacists. >> why don't you think he's willing to do so? >> look, he does. i mean, you won't say he doesn't do it. he did. does he do it to the extent and is vigor that i think he should? no. but he does it. he just doesn't do it in a way that he would when it came to other areas of hate. >> well, okay. but there's a why there. there must be. >> i agree. look, i think the president is someone who doesn't want to be bullied into saying something. this is a really big part of the
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president. if he's being criticized for not saying something enough and he has been for a long time on the issue of white supremacists he feels like every time he does it, he feels like he's conceding to the bullies to do it. >> is he playing footsie with his element out there? >> i don't think so. this is all an internal psychological issue with him that he's not going to just concede to the bullies who are trying to force him to talk more about this. >> i will only know we have gone full circle back to psychological things. i know you didn't mean that. >> i'm not an analyst. just saying we all have things that we are concerned about as how people paint our image. >> i have been dying to ask about this since the new yorker story came out talking about the relationship between fox news and the president. one of the revelations there inside this new yorker report was the claim that then candidate donald trump was given
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some of the debate questions before the fox news debate. let me read you the passage. they believe ailes informed the trump campaign about kelly's question. in addition, a former trump campaign aide says the the pocket contact give him advance notice of a different debate question which sktd the candidates whether they would support the republican whoen wo. >> i'm not sure it's that helpful. most of the debate questions you get are not surprises. >> doesn't it bother you if one of the candidates on stage was given the inside track? i would be furious if i were on the stage with donald trump. >> first, where did it come from? was it from fox or someone who happened to hear that from a fox person? that would be different. it's like, for example, the donna brazil thing.
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>> would that upset you knowing that one of the candidates may have been given information by fox about what the questions were? >> if they were given information by people at fox, yes. that's completely untoward and something that would, as another candidate, not make me happy. it's not like these are big surprise gotcha questions. none of those things were surprising questions. >> senator santorum, great to have you on. appreciate it. >> you bet. >> erica? >> a showdown looms over the mueller report. could white house counsel scrub it before the public sees it? a top democrat joins us next. - [woman] with my shark, i deep clean messes like this. this and even this. but i don't have to clean this, because the self-cleaning brush roll removes hair, while i clean. - [announcer] shark, the vacuum that deep cleans, now cleans itself.
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cnn learned white house lawyers expect to get the version of the mueller report that attorney general william barr will submit to congress before lawmakers see that version. there is an expectation that white house counsel will likely claim executive privilege -- but
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over what? that's the great unknown. joining us is congresswoman catherine clark. good to have you with us. not really surprised white house counsel will look into executive privilege. we were told this earlier. what's your reaction to the fact that now we are hearing our own cnn reporting that they are working hard on this to figure out the path? >> we are clear in house of representatives what our responsibility is. that is to defend the constitution. you only have to look at the vote we took on making the mueller report public just last week that was passed 420-0 with broad bipartisan support. we are going to make sure that this report finds its way to the public. it is what's necessary to make sure that we are defending our democracy and living up to our oath of office to defend the
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constitution. >> there is a chance of a battle between the branches could end up in the third branch of government, in the courts and it could end up there for some time. does that concern you? >> it does concern me. we will do what we need to do. i think it is no surprise that this white house is going to do everything it can do to try and bury this report, bury these findings and hide it from the american people. it is our job through the legislative process, through the oversight process of our committees and through the courts, if necessary, to make sure the american people understand what has taken place here and what the results are. >> how much planning is happening at this time as everyone is waiting for the mueller report. you're saying you will exhaust every opportunity and make sure the american public see what the
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special counsel found. dive deeper. are we talking subpoenas? what's the plan? >> i think we are very clear on what our role is. our first job is to make sure that we are building an economy, our for the people agenda for the people of this country. we are focused very much on passing hr-1 that we did a few weeks ago. protecting the right to vote. getting dark money out of campaigns. we are moving on to an infrastructure bill. we are looking at reducing the cost of prescription drug medication. at the same time we have our intelligence committee and judiciary committees moving forward with their responsibility to have accountability and oversight of this administration. we are going to look. we have been waiting for the mueller report. none of us know exactly when it's coming or what it is going to say. but we are ready, as evidenced by the resolution we have
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already passed to make sure this information gets to the american people so they can make a judgment for themselves on what the president has done. >> in terms of the resolution which, as we know, passed in the house 420-0. the president's veto. what's the plan? are there votes to override that? >> the resolution has not passed the senate yet. it is my understanding that lindsey graham is blocking this. i hope lindsey graham decides to put principle over partisanship and move this forward. what we have seen from republicans over and over is that they are complicit in supporting this presidency and not speaking out. so we hope the senate will take this up. if it gets to a vote in the senate, i'm confident we are going to see the same overwhelming result we saw in the house. >> you have taken to twitter
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certainly in the aftermath of the terror attack in new zealand, talking about white nationalism about the rise globally. as you have heard the president doesn't see that it's a global threat, there is a rise there. the consistent word from the white house is that the president and the administration condemn all acts of evil. do you think it would change anything if the president came out and was specific and said, ic i condemn white nationalists, white supremacy, would that change things? >> i think it would and he should absolutely do that. i think it is shocking that we have a situation where this president refuses to do it. silence is complicity with this. we have seen it from the campaign. he wouldn't speak out against david duke. to charlottesville and now to new zealand with this very lukewarm statement, unable to
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say the words that white supremacy is wrong, it is against our values and it is a threat of terrorism in our country and global ly. like my grandmother said, when someone shows you who they are, believe them. this president shows us over and over who he is by failing to denounce white supremacy. >> appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you, erica. >> we'll have a chance to find out if the president will speak out further against this. he will be taking questions from reporters later today. in the meantime, we are following breaking news outs of syria where isis fighters linked to a deadly attack on u.s. soldiers have been captured. this is an important development. we have a live report from syria next. you wouldn't accept an incomplete job
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we are following breaking news. u.s.-backed forces in syria captured isis fighters they believe are linked to a suicide bombing in january that killed four americans. this happened just weeks after
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president trump announced he wanted to with draw u.s. troops from syria. the attack killed green beret jonathan farmer, scott wirtz, shannon kent and ghadih taher. ben wedeman is live in northern syria for us with the breaking news. ben? >> reporter: john, what we know from both the u.s. government and the syrian democratic forces is that several suspects were arrested in connection with the 16th of january bombing outside a restaurant in manbij in western syria. the restaurant called the palace of the princess was caused by a suicide bomber wearing an explosive vest. it killed in addition to four americans, two members of the syrian democratic forces and eight civilians as well. now this comes at a time when it appears the battle to retake
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that final pocket held by isis along the euphrates river is in its final phases. they have been pushed out of the encampment and really occupied a sliver -- and i mean a sliver -- of land right by the euphrates. so some sort of announcement may be hours or perhaps days away bringing to a close the time when isis-controlled territory in this part of syria. it's important to note that the explosion, the bombing that killed the four americans on the 16th of january was far away, many hours' drive to the west of here, underscoring the continuing danger posed by isis sleeper cells, not only in iraq, but in syria as well. erica? >> ben, thank you. the supreme court will consider whether one of the two snipers who terrorized the d.c. area in 2002 can challenge his
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usc blki ingblocking studen enrolling if they may be linked to the nationwide college admission s scandal. university officials say they have been notified their status is under review. bryn gin grass has more. this story just gets more and more fascinating. >> if you want to be infuriated read the entire affidavit. cnn.com has the cliff's notes. those students can't register for students or collect their transcripts until the investigation is complete. usc said it is going to review each student case-by-case. it is possible some of the kids never knew their parents took advantage of the offer from william singer. singer is the mastermind behind the enormous college admissions scam that unfolded last week. he promised wealthy parents a
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guaranteed side door into elite schools, but of course it was a con according to feds. he pleaded giuilty to four federal charges. parents and college coaches are among those charged. some of the schools were alerted to it last year as the investigation took twists and turns. stanford has been working with the fbi since last november. it is now reviewing the admissions process. wake forest welcomes students back from spring break with an e-mail explaining the steps it is taking to improve their process. this morning, we are learning a little more about singer himself and the sham charity he started to funnel money. one parent who considered buying singer's services describeds i him as a good salesman. his charity was a sham designed to funnel money for bribes but painted itself as a charity helping underprivileged kids, even working to unite gangs.
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many schools received money from the charity are now redirecting those funds. as for the more than two dozen parents charged in the case most will be in court in boston next week. >> it will be a busy week at the courts in boston. the details are just phenomenal. >> disheartening. there was one parent who was coached by singer to tell his daughter she couldn't take the a.c.t. again after cheating because she didn't want to be alarmed they were going to get a higher score because they were going to cheat. he had to tell her how not to take it again. parents lying to kids like, ah! >> imagine you are a kid who didn't know and you are maybe hearing, well, you can't register for school, you cheated. >> as a parent and maybe as a student you're going, look, is this the only one that ever happened? or the only one where they got caught? it raises so many questions. >> it does. >> thank you.
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after president trump's emergency declaration for a border wall new polling suggests a majority of latino voters disapprove of the job he's doing, but the margin of error is shockingly wide. cnn spoke to latinos on the southern border who support the president. >> reporter: the u.s./mexico border in south texas dividing countries and latino voters. >> you were born and raised in texas, yes? >> mm-hmm. >> you live a mile from the wall. >> uh-huh. >> reporter: you want it taller and longer. >> longer and taller, yes. >> reporter: how much taller? >> twice as much at least. >> reporter: you want the whole border, 2600 miles? >> 2600 miles, yes, sir. >> reporter: president trump, for years -- >> the hispanics that are in the country legally love me. they love me. they love me. >> reporter: -- has touted how much latinos love him.
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rodriguez appreciates the president's business acumen, religious alignments and border politics, particularly the wall. >> i don't think the wall is going to be a barrier really for the good people. it will be a barrier for the bad people. >> we have been mounting an investigation. >> reporter: while a majority of latinos disapprove of the president's job performance, many angered by the family separation policy focus on the wall and rhetoric about immigrants. the president still has some latino support. about a third on par with other past republican presidents. >> reporter: you are working on citizenship? >> i am. >> reporter: she came from mexico to the u.s. when she was 3. she's working toward getting her citizenship and hopes to vote for the president come 2020. her top three issues -- abortion, the economy, and immigration. >> we do have a lot of problems here with immigration.
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i do support his stance for the wall. >> reporter: trump supporting latinos here say the president has more support than many are willing to admit. hernandez, president of the young republicans of hidalgo county says membership has doubled. how difficult a sell is it to latinos in the area to support the republican party and the president? >> i'm shocked because the last time the president visited or the last time he came to the valley there was a lot of people out there supporting him. >> reporter: hernandez and other latinos we spoke to have little doubt that with their help, trump will win a second term in office and make good on the promise to fix an immigration system they view as broken. >> here in south texas, this is what the barrier looks like between the u.s. and mexico in large part. metal, five feet high. to be fair on the other side there is a 20-foot drop you
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can't see. most latinos across the country say they do not agree with the president on his immigration policies, his idea of building a wall. those we spoke to in this area say there is a national emergency and they would like to see this thing doubled or tripled in size. miguel marquez, cnn, hidalgo county, texas. >> thanks to miguel for the report. there is breaking news at this hour. the redacted search warrants which led to the fbi raid on michael cohen have been released. we are poring through them. we'll have the headlines after the break. this year?ight try fda-approved alli®. for every 5 lbs you lose, alli® can help you lose two to three more by preventing about 25% of the fat you eat from being absorbed. for the only fda-approved otc weight loss aid, try alli®. (danny)'s voice) of course you don'te because you didn't!? your job isn't doing hard work... ...it's making them do hard work... ...and getting paid for it.
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