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this is all part of the growing outrage over the president's string of new attacks on the war hero. >> i was never a fan of john mccain and i never will be. >> in an exclusive interview today, the senator johnny isaacson says the country deserves better. i don't care if the president of the united states owns all the real estate in new york, nothing is more important than the integrity of the country and those who fought and risked their lives for all of us. the fact that it comes from senator isakson is really significant. >> absolutely. it's really an incredible statement from the chairman of the senate veterans committee. this is somebody who votes with republicans. he's close with mcconnell. he's someone who has worked very closely with the president on other issues, but on this issue
he cares deeply about protecting senator john mccain. this isn't the first time he's gone out and threatened to defend john mccain after any attacks. here's what he said on the senate floor back in august just days after he passed away. >> anyone who in any way tarnishes the reputation of john mccain deserves a whipping. most of the ones who'd do the wrong thing about john mccain didn't have the guts to do the right thing when it was their turn. >> this is not the only republican who has come out to defend john mccain. you had senator lindsey graham saying, quote, nothing about his service will ever be changed or diminished. then you had senator mitt romney last night tweeting, quote, i don't understand why the president would once again disparage a man as exemplary as
my friend john mccain. the question now is exactly what isakson would say next, but so significant this is coming from such a senior republican in the party. >> what's he going to say next, do next, will he be joined by other republicans and leadership. the president clearly is willing and able to fight multiple unseemly feuds at the same time. so we see a new vicious attack not only on a deceased war hero but on a fellow republican married to one of the president's closest aides. try to imagine any president of the united states calling anyone a quote, stone cold loser and a husband from hell. wow. sarah westwood is at the house. we're in uncharted territory here. aside from obviously putting
kellyanne conway in a very awkward position, why does it continue? why is the president still hitting back? >> that's a question many people are asking right now as president trump seems to be elevating george conway to new levels of fame by engaging directly with him. conway is a prominent d.c. ha lawyer, has been a long time critic of president trump. after the president weighed in that tweet that you read attacking the conways marriage, george conway responded on twitter, you are nuts and saying the president is proving his point by taking the time to write that rebuttal. george conway sought to explain why he so frequently tweets critic of the president. the tweeting is just the way to get it out of the way so i can get it off anmy chest. frankly it's so i don't end up
screaming at her about. the post published a letter that suggested george conway actually turned down a position in the justice department in 2017. keep in mind this all started when george conway speculated openly on twitter this week about the president's mental state. he tweeted out images from a mental health diagnostic manual. we should point out that george conway is not a psychiatrist, this is just speculation on his part. it has now morphed into a major feud that has roped in allies of the president an even president trump himself. >> wow. think about the example this sets to little kids everywhere. thank you. i'm going to begin on what i think is the most important of what was just reported and that is the fact that the senator johnny isakson is calling out the president in this way. it's really remarkable.
>> isakson is seen as more of an even tempered senator. he's not one for a lot of public criticism of his colleagues or the president. the fact that he's doing this gives you a sense of the issue. that said, it's hard to know what this actually means. there have been previous occasions we've seen where one senator has made a public rebuke of the president either to be slapped down by the president or none of his colleagues have followed. whether this means anything or is just an interesting blip, i think time will tell. past history tells us it often does not amount to too much in the long run. >> that's what i was wondering. i mean, you do have sort of a tempered response from senator lindsey graham, who of course is mccain's best friend, but also a close ally of the president. mitt romney condemned it on twitter. what about leadership? do you have any reporting there's an appetite for
mcconnell, republican leadership to con dedemn the president on this? >> you look what happened even on the campaign trail where the president said he preferred war heros who weren't captured and lot of the gop was frustrated with that comment. and he still remains incredibly popular with the republican party. a lot of these senators fear rebukes from back home if they clash with the president. we saw this week roy blunt, a missouri republican, was disinvited from a republican dinner back in his state after he clashed with the president on the national emergency, after he voted against the president's decision to do that. a lot of grassroots activists are turning on him back in missouri. you have to understand the cost if you go after a popular president in his own party. that's why you don't see a lot of republican senators doing it just because of sheer numbers.
>> from may of 2017 where george conway is turning down an offer to work in the administration, to serve as assistant attorney general for the civil division of the doj. this line we have highlighted here, conway says to the president, kelly ann and i continue to support you. that's changed. >> george conway on election night 2016 was weeping in excitement. that's true. he was. george conway was a supporter of the president's. he described to me his metamorph even by may when he sent that letter, though, he was already seeing parts of that was.
happening. i think he was looking for a graceful way out of the administration. >> is that why, because you had brad parscale tweet in recent days basically george conway is bitter. there it is, we know that the president turned down mr. kellyanne conway for the job he desperately wanted. is that false? >> yeah. i mean, george conway withdrew himself from consideration for the position at doj. he recounts a conversation with me where the president comes up to him in june 2017 at steve nu mnuchin's wedding and says you're smart for turning down that job, george, jeff sessions is so weak, you didn't want to work for him. the president obviously has a right to have his feelings about george conway. he's been a vociferous critic of the president. he's made comments that some see
as out of line, but the president is not true to the facts here in how he knows george conway. they worked together back in new york, he's asked for legal advice, he's attended parties with him. he can say he hates them, but he can't say he doesn't know him. that is not a point of contention if you stick to the facts. >> great reporting as always. still to come, democratic candidate for the presidency beto o'rourke spoke to cnn a few moments ago with some new details on how this record breaking cash haul his campaign has brought in. we'll give you the numbers next. also the special counsel needs to extend the deadline for a request to unseal documents related to paul manafort's closed case. mueller's team says it's just too busy this week. what does that signal? and it's the most common complication after pregnancy,
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just a few moments ago in new hampshire democratic presidential hopeful beto o'rourke gave cnn new details on his record haul. listen to this. >> was that your day one fund-raising? >> 6.1. the other numbers that i shared with you including the average $47 was the first 24 hours of the campaign. >> and they say donations from every state. also an interesting new poll out
this morning shows that o'rourke is far from the leader but is in the top four. joe biden owns that top spot. if you're thinking joe biden is not even running yet, you are right. senator bernie sanders is in second place. kamala harris and beto come in double digits there, harris at 12%, beto o'rourke at 11%. check out senator harris's jump from 4% in december to 12% now. she is up across the board among democrats, women, minorities, men, you name it. that's big for her. a majority of democrats say the ticket would be better off without bernie sanders. stay tuned. joining me now is democratic congressman gregory meeks of ohio. >> new york. >> did i say ohio? i'm thinking of ohio because the
president is going to ohio today. you told me last time you were here that you do not think that senator bernie sanders should run for the presidency in the democratic party because he has been an independent for his life. do you still feel that way? >> yeah. i want to be clear. i could not support bernie sanders because he's not a democrat. i think that the person who is the democratic nominee should be a democrat. you know, i know i got a lot of noise before as if i was urging him to run as an independent. no. what i'm urging him to do is join the party. >> he did technically switch his affiliation to democrat to run and he switched it back in 2018 to run in the senate race as an independent and now back. what is a switch you would believe? >> look, i want him to be invested in the party. i'd use as an example someone
that has flipped back and forth michael bloomberg. he was a registered republican when he ran for mayor and he stayed that way. for a year or so he's been a registered democrat and he had invested heavily in democratic candidates, in moving forward about the democratic party and trying to get things together. i think what bernie should do if he wants to be the leader is say i am now a democrat and run as a democrat not an independent and then get involved in the democratic politics. >> he is technically running as a democrat. what would convince you of that and that it's not just lip service? are there fundamental ideas of bernie sanders that you don't agree with most? i guess i'm just trying to get at it seems like the label is most important to you. >> being a member of the party when asked previously whether or not he would join the democratic party, he has said no.
other times when he's not running for president. i can recall there was conversation that had been had at a democratic conference or something of that nature, at which point he was asked would you think about run and changing and becoming a democrat? he said no. >> i don't know which event that was, but okay. so you're sticking to your ground on that one. looking at the enthusiasm here in this new cnn poll, the republican enthusiasm is ten points higher than the democrats. republicans are 57% really excited about voting in 2020 and 46% of democrats are. are you worried about that. >> no. i think what's happening right now is we have 14 candidates. we are waiting to see who all of the candidates are going to be, whether joe biden jumps in or not or anyone else. and then starting in june we'll have a debate season. and then interest will start picking up as we identify and
whittle down who our candidates are. >> i want to talk about reparations. elizabeth warren made a lot of news by becoming the first senator running for president to endorse a house bill to study reparations and to look at even potential financial payments to descendants of slaves. do you support that measure? >> yeah. john conyers used to introduce a measure like that every year, which i was a cosponsor of. i think we should look at it. definitely when you look at the scenario of the ugly institution of slavery in america, there should be something there. similarly, i think for native americans when you look at what took place to native americans in this country, there should be something to help the wrongs that had taken place in this country. >> i think this is going to get a lot more attention in this entire run-up to 2020. financial payments, is that the best answer? >> i think we need to look.
i know with the conyers bill there was talk of a study so we can figure out what is the best way to do it. when i look at the difficulty of individuals, especially african-americans as far as education is concerned and paying for college and things of that nature to get a hands up. overwhelmingly when you look at student debt, it is those individuals who have ancestors who have been slaved. >> let me ask you this. we also heard elizabeth warren in that town hall saying she supports the removal of the confederate symbol from the mississippi state flag. so on both of those points, i'm interested in whether you think she could be as effective to tackle the issues of racial inequality as some of the other african-american candidates cory booker or kamala harris. >> i'm proud of the democratic party in that regard because i think the democratic party in general is pushing to make sure that we have equality and we correct some of the past mistakes. i am proud of the fact when you
go down to georgia for example and look at lucy mcbath and others who are african-american -- >> but i asked you about elizabeth warren. do you think she can be effective on this front? >> i think that she will be more effective than donald trump. that's for sure. >> we'll leave it there. not from the state of ohio, congressman meeks of new york, thank you very much. the special counsel claims it's too busy to meet a friday deadlin deadline. could that mean something bigger? (danny) let me get this straight. after a long day of hard work... ...you have to do more work? every day you're nearly fried to a crisp, professionally! can someone turn on the ac?! no? oh right... ...'cause there isn't any. here- (vo) automatically sort your expenses and save over 40 hours a month. without you, we wouldn't have electricity. our hobby would be going to bed early. (vo) you earned it, we're here to make sure you get it. (danny) it's time to get yours! (vo) quickbooks. backing you.
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the special counsel's team says this week it's been, quote, too busy to respond to a request to unseal court documents from paul manafort's now closed criminal case. the deadline to respond was on friday, but now mueller's team is requesting an extension to april 1st. at the same time the trump strax has not responded to house democrats' request for documents in that investigation into the president. in the "washington post" yesterday, eli jah cummings accused the white house in an unprecedented level of stonewalling, delay and obstruction. with me is jeffrey toobin. this april 1st extension,
anything more than just them slacking? >> well, i don't think they're slacking, but i think they're busy. and they are really trying to wrap up a bunch of things. the manafort case is not entirely done. the issue of unsealing documents, they're preparing for the roger stone trial, although that's going to be with the us attorney's office in washington. there are the two cases against the russian interests where there is one defendant who has at least shown up and may fight it. of course, there is the final report they're working on. all of us are expecting that report soon, but we don't know much. i fully admit i don't know much about when this report is coming out. there's a lot happening, but whether it means we're going to get some big news today, tomorrow, next week, i don't know. >> what i appreciate about you is that you are always willing to say those words that not
enough people say on tv which is i don't know. >> i'm kind of a pioneer in not knowing. >> you are. there are some standout things in terms of michael flynn, for example, who they want the sentencing but it keeps getting drawn out by the other side here. any of those tea leaves we can read? >> the fact that the sentencing has not taken place is a sign that it's not over. rick gates, paul manafort's former deputy, also has not been sentenced. in fact, in the last filing the special counsel's office said gates was still. cooperating in several investigations. now, if you look at his knowledge, it may involve some cases that are not directly related to the special counsel's investigation, but still it just suggests why people seem to be talking about the mueller
investigation as if it's in the past tense. that may not be right, that there are other things going on. >> what is the most important thing you learned from that huge stack of documents that was released regarding the michael cohen search warrants and the mueller team looking at the e-mails, the phone calls? what did you glean from that? >> one of the things about the mueller office is that for all that these documents look like grim legal documents, a lot of them read like short stories. the story of michael cohen is so amazing. a lot of it starts with uber, of all things, because michael cohen was heavily invested in new york city taxi medallions, which are the right to have a yellow cab in new york city. and because of uber and lyft and the other services, the value of those medallions dropped dramatically. so cohen started having all these financial problems and
according to mueller's office started lying to banks to get more money. that's what sort of started this crisis in cohen's life. the other thing that was so striking is that mueller only took office in the middle of may, but it shows how fast he worked. in early july he was already getting a search warrant for michael cohen's phones. you know, most prosecutors, they can't even hire a staff and get office space in six weeks, and mueller was already onto michael cohen. the 20 pages that were blacked out about the trump investigation, the illegal campaign contribution stuff, that suggests that there's a lot about that story we don't know even though cohen himself has pleaded guilty in that case. >> it will be so interesting. i am sure the media will demand and try to see what's in that
redacted part, obviously after that part of the investigation is closed. >> i will demand. a lot of good that'll do but we'll try. >> that will be fascinating so see. jeffrey toobin, thank you, my friend. >> see ya. wait for this story. a potential cure for something that affects hundreds of thousands of new mothers, a brand new drug to treat post partum depression just approved by the fda and it could give relief within hours. hey mercedes, how about letting your hair down a little? how about a car for people who don't play golf? hey mercedes! mix it up a little. how about something for a guy who doesn't want a corner office? hey mercedes, i don't even own a tie. do you think i need a mahogany dashboard?
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garlique this morning a very important medical breakthrough. the fda has approved the first ever drug to treat post partum depression in mothers. it is serious. it affects about 1 in 9 new moms. dr. sanjay gupta is here with details. this is remarkable. what is it. >> the drug is called zoresso. it works totally differently than rest of the antidepressants out there. the fact that there was no specific medication to treat post partum depression was always remarkable to me. it's taken this long to get there. it's an iv drug, poppy. this is not a pill. it's an iv that requires you to receive the iv for 60 hours, so 2 1/2 days. there are some significant side
effects which is what they've been looking at, headache, dizziness, excessive sleepiness. $34,000 for a single dose. that doesn't even count the time in the hospital or clinic. >> will insurance cover that? and how do you prove to insurance you need it? >> when the fda approves something like this, then this negotiation and discussions with the insurance companies happen. what the pharmaceutical company says is there will be discounts available, we will work with patients to make sure they get it. you're talking about hundreds of thousands of women who likely have post partum depression. 30 or 40% of them may meet the indications for a medication like this. >> can we talk about how a new mom that might be watching this right now can differentiate between the baby blues and post partum depression and if they should seek this treatment. >> the baby blues which is kind of a euphemism because even that's a serious thing.
it's common. it happens in almost all women who have a baby. you have a sudden change in hormone levels right at the time of delivery. hormone levels drop tenfold in some women. but it typically lasts 3-5 days. symptoms aren't as severe. with post partum depression, it's longer, it's more severe. you don't feel like you have interest in taking care of your child. you don't feel like you have interest in taking care of yourself. >> i've watched my friends go through this. it's heartbreaking. >> it can also potentially be dangerous for the lives of the mother and for the baby, which is why there's been so much interest in developing a medication like this. we don't exactly know how it worked but it seems to work differently than medications that keep, for example, serotonin in your brain. this may work on the hormone levels. >> accessibility will be the
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president heeds to highwads to . the president will tour a building plant where they make big tanks in lima, ohio. trump's trip comes as his feud with general motors over the closure of another plant continues. good morning to you both. heather, it's your birthday. happy birthday. how does it feel to turn 22 years old? >> i'll take 25. >> okay. 25. but heather, the reason i wanted to have you on the show is because you just spent a lot of time in ohio. we used to report there together. looking at the situation particularly around lordstown, the trump team is saying this plant on the other side of the state has been brought back from almost extinction. is that true? and is that an economic story of
success across ohio? >> so that plant that president trump is visiting today where they build military equipment has benefitted from president trump pumping a lot more money, building that defense budget, no doubt about that. while the job picture looks very good across the nation, there are pockets of pain. in particular in places where the president has specifically said he will personally intervene, places like the carrier factory in indiana and the gm lordstown factory on the other side of ohio. it hasn't gone very well. his track record is not very good at saving those jobs in the places that he personally has said he will help. >> i was also just in ohio. i was in the cleveland area recently. look, i think ohio is really the showcase state for donald trump in terms of the economic revival. there are some plants that are
closing. that's what we call creative destruction. the auto industry is going through a lot of major changes and it's going to continue over the next decade as people move into more automated cars and so on. the thing about ohio that people don't realize is what's really driven the ohio economy has been -- ohio is now the epicenter of the natural gas revolution. the shale revolution that's going on in ohio has completely transformed that state. you know, ohio, pennsylvania, west virginia now combined produce more natural gas than any place in the world. it's why this green new deal is such a dingbat idea. we're producing more energy than ever before and we're going to shut it down. yes, some plants are closing, but manufacturing is booming in ohio because energy is so cheap there. >> we could spend the entire time debating the green new deal
and i actually want to have you back to do that but it's about what's happening to our climate. we'll totally get to it. >> it's a big part of it. >> but it's not this conversation. here's my question for you. as much as you like the president and his economic policies, i know that. you advised him on all things economy, you wrote a book about it. >> he doesn't always take my advice. >> i have a hard time believing you are in favor of the president demanding and dictating what a private corporation like general motors should do, right? >> i think it's wrong. the president knows i don't like that idea. i don't think any president or politician should tell a company where they should build a plant or shut down a plant or how many workers they should hire. that should be the companies themselves. i think it is inappropriate for the president to intervene in that way. it's kind of corporate welfare. i don't like that approach.
>> you also have to make the point some of the president's policies are hurting ohio. on the auto sector, it has been very clear that his steel and aluminum tougariffs, gm and for have lost a billion dollars because of tariffs. the president's push to build that wall on the southern border also may mean that some money that was meant for an airport in toledo, ohio, that money would not happen because some of that would be repurposed potentially to go for the border wall. that's where there's some tension in ohio and that's why some of the president's poll numbers there have been slipping. >> steve, i read your op-ed from a week ago and you said -- >> you did? >> i did. you said, what is peculiar about president trump's proposed 25% auto tariff is that even most of
the domestic industry producers don't want it. is he misguided here on tariffs and the midwest and those producers? >> i agree with trump on china. i'm totally in favor of getting tough with china. i think he's going to deliver a big trade deal which will be very positive for the economy. >> but on this? >> i do not like the steel tariffs. heather, you make a good point. when you raise the price of steel here in the united states, it makes it more expensive to build cars here. but the big picture is ohio, the job market in ohio today is better than it's been in 50 years. there's no question about it. you talk to people. there's a new spring in the step of people who live in ohio. the reason i brought up the shale revolution, youngstown, ohio, is building steel plants again for the first time in half a century because of this -- the epicenter of it is this energy
production. it reverberates throughout the whole ohio, pennsylvania, west virginia economies. >> we're going to debate the green new deal. have a good one. to very serious news in nebraska and all that flooding we've been seeing. a state agriculture official says she expects losses of 800 million in the wake of the floods. we have these new nasa satellite images that reveal the extent of the flooding. on the left large march, on the right that's the same area on sunday. steph, how is it looking? >> reporter: when you take a look at that number you just gave for the livestock and crops and the losses here in nebraska,
that $800 million, that doesn't even include infrastructure. that's a huge part of what nebraska is dealing with. 95% of the state has been affected by this flooding here. even though the water is starting to recede, we've seen some people use paddle boats out there to get around to some of the homes that are still hard to access or can't even get to them by road. finding water that has been about 4 1/2 feet up inside their homes. that's the situation here that you see people are dealing with this water. now that the water is receding, that's the good side, but there's all the work that has to be done to rebuild. no one here remembers a time where the flooding has been this bad in nebraska. on top of it, every single person we've spoken to says they plan on rebuilding here. one man saying to me no place elso else to go.
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plane was nose diving. this comes from the cockpit voice recorder. the question is is it connected to the recent ethiopian airlines crash. >> same kind of plane, similar behaviors, and now this horrifying idea from reuters that as this plane in the lion air crash off indonesia, as that was happening, that when the crew realized something was wrong, for nine minutes they wrestled this plane as it tried to dive into the water and they tried to pull it back up. and they flipped through this manual trying to find any explanation for this behavior. and throughout that time they never realized that it was actually a control in the plane fighting against them. they just couldn't figure out what was going on. nine minutes long, just a horrifying idea that they knew that whole time something was wrong and were simply flipping through a manual trying to figure out what it could possibly be. >> and the fact this is five months plus before this doomed
ethiopian airliner went down, you wonder what was reported, what action was taken, et cetera. look, you have the faa in a crisis mode right now given all of this and questions about approval, et cetera. the president expected to delta executive. head, former - >> yeah. this guy steve dixon. he's got a huge challenge in front of him. not only is there an investigation from the department of transportation of the faa on whether or not they have handled this rollout of this new jet from boeing properly, that they let boeing have too much control over it. and are they doing enough to take what happened seriously now in the wake of what happened before. there's an awful lot facing this guy. this is a huge nasty job in d.c. right now. >> why is it that for most of the president's presidency so
far there has not been an official head of the faa? >> i think it's been a lot of what we've seen with this administration. they've just had a hard time getting their ducks in a row about who they want in which roles and who will be approved in those roles and who fit into the trump framework of what he wants in terms of running this country. it's a very difficult situation and i don't seie it getting easier right away. steve dixon has a very hard job in front of him and an awfully important job, particularly now that public trust has been shaken so much. >> the question is did faa allow boeing to do too much checking of this stuff themselves. >> to get answers out of this will take months. the wreck last fall, we still don't have final answers on that one. >> thank you all for being with
me. i'm poppy harlow. "at this hour" starts now. hello. i'm ryan nobles in today for kate bolduan. after this morning the term twitter spat doesn't cut it anymore. the president's public feud with his top aide's husband is now looking more like an all-out war. while a republican senator says the president's repeated attacks on the late senator john mccain crossed the line. let's begin with the president's enemy of the moment, george conway, the husband of white house counselor kellyanne conway. trump blasting out this tweet this morning. george conway often referred to as mr. kellyanne conway by those who know him is very jealous of his wife's success and angry that i with her help didn't give him the job