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the findings on the russia probe the president is shifting gears after repeatedly calling the investigation a hoax, president trump changes his tune and now says the report should be made public. >> does the public have a right to see the mueller report? >> i don't mind. frankly, i told the house if you want, let him see it. let it come out. let people see it. >> well, the vast majority of americans certainly want to see it. look at the numbers in cnn's polling. 87% believe the mueller report should be made public. with me now, joe johns of the white house. that's interesting. full transparency here. >> it is interesting. you also have the vote in the house of representatives which was unanimous. 420 people voting in favor of transparency, releasing that report. so it's pretty clear which way the wind is blowing on this
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issue. the president clearly deciding that he's not going to get in the way of it, at least right now. in fact, over the weekend on saturday the president even tweeted out essentially that all republicans ought to do that. he urged the congressional leadership to get behind it, the republicans. he said among other things, play along with the game. which i think tells you that you ought to at least view this position of the president with a little bit of skepticism for a variety of reasons. we know from cnn's reporting pamela brown suggesting that the white house wants to see whatever information gleaned from that report that's put together by the attorney general which is to be sent to the house of representatives. that, of course lends itself to the possibility that this
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administration may want to exert executive privilege. jerry nadler already said there taught to be no assertion of executive privilege in this situation, especially if the president of the united states is implicate in wrongdoing. >> it was a big fight for nixon up to the supreme court. joe johns, thank you very much. a woman who spent 14 critical months and a spokeswoman, strategist and sounding board for president trump has agreed to cooperate with house investigators. we are talking about hope hicks and the fact that she may be the closest of the current or former trump insiders to promise to hand-deliver and hand over, i should say, documents to the house judiciary committee which put out requests to 81 people, groups and organization this is week. a member of the group saying
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hicks is critically important and she's seen things. the president called her smart, thoughtful and a truly great person. this is interesting, kara. how big of a get is this for the nadler probe and the overall response? >> it's a pretty big get. as you said, hope hicks is one of donald trump's closest aides. not only was she with him during the campaign transition into the white house, but she's worked with him back at the trump organization. nadler has a team. the democrats asked hope for her diaries, journals, notes she's taken on a range of topics including the firing of james comey and the statement that the white house drafted on air force one when the "new york times" was about to break the story about donald trump, jr., meeting at the trump tower. hicks said she'll cooperate but the white house is asserting
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executive privilege over many people who had administrative positions. the white house has not responded to the congressional request. last night on anderson cooper chairman nadler said that the wrongdoing -- i'm sorry, that executive privilege is not a shield for wrongdoing. >> it is fundamental law that executive privilege cannot hide misconduct. you cannot use the executive privilege to hide misconduct by the president or anybody around him. in the nixon case which was very dispositive on that point. >> nadler said they received substantial responses from a large number of people. of the 81 individuals and entities the committee has asked to provide information, one entity that's not provided responses to congressional committees is the trump organization. poppy? >> yeah. very important point. before you go. rick gates will not be cooperating right now with nadler's probe, right?
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why? >> rick gates' attorney said they are not cooperating at this time with the requests for documents and testimony. because based on conversations that the attorney had with multiple prosecuting offices. this follows the development last week with the special counsel's office where they weren't ready to sentence rick gates. they asked for two more months saying he was actively cooperating with several ongoing investigations. gates' attorney telling the hill he expects to be able to cooperate in the next couple of months. for the moment saying he's not going to cooperate in the best interests of his client based on conversations he's had with prosecutors. poppy? >> all right. great reporting. thank you very much. with me now is former federal prosecutor and cnn legal analyst ellie hoenig. good morning. >> good morning. >> the president wants the public to see the mueller report. didn't he also want to give a sit-down to mueller and want to release his tax returns? >> i'm not buying it.
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there is a pattern of i want to do the right thing but my lawyers say i can't. going back to the sit-down with mueller, the tax returns. this will fall into that category. a week ago the president said there should be no mueller report. his attorneys made it clear they intend to review it for executive privilege and assert it which could lead us to the courtesy. the president is the boss of the attorneys. i hear you, but this is what we are doing. he'll hide. >> we heard jerry nadler now saying the executive privilege cannot hide misconduct. it sure can drag things out, can't it? >> yes, absolutely. we could have a legal fight. if the way it plays out is the president's attorneys say we object to these pages, these passages, executive privilege. it's conversation between the president and close advisers, hope hicks is an example. we could go to the supreme court. there is a way to go directly to the supreme court. >> why do that?
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>> there is a rule in the supreme court rules of procedure, rule 11, which allows a case of huge importance to go to the supreme court. >> as a guarantee they hear it? >> it's up to the court but they would almost certainly hear this. >> there is precedent with things like this. executive privilege claims going to the high court under the nixon administration. different in terms of documents, et cetera. could the outcome be different here for president trump? >> if you strictly took the nixon ruling from 1974 and transported it to today, it should be no different. the difference is there were tapes. here we might be talking about other forms of evidence. that's really not a meaningful difference. it was unanimous in the nixon case. the holding was executive privilege is meant to protect national security, military secrets but not as a shield against criminal liability. we have nine different justices on the court now. people change decisions. >> this is an important case. >> two are trump's appointees.
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in the nixon case, three of the justices who voted against him were nixon's own appointees. >> interesting. what do you make of why mueller's team of prosecutors would, according to gates' defense team not want rick gates to cooperate at this time with the house probe? >> that's the right move. that's exactly what i would do. it tells me something important. mueller or the southern district but the prosecutors intend to use gates in a big way going forward. they intend to use him as a trial witness, someone you will bank charges on. when you have a cooperating witness you get demands from other prosecutor offices, other entities who want to talk to him. the response that prosecutors give is no, we don't want him exposed, cross examined, questioned publicly until we are ready to use him at the trial. >> hope hicks saying she'll cooperate with the nadler probe. one of the few of 81 folks they want documents for who will turn them over. does that tell you she probably
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thinks she doesn't have any criminal exposure here or that she'll selectively cooperate? >> yeah. i don't think they can or should accept selective cooperation. i think she's probably taking care of her liability. i would go to the prosecutor and say, look, she has information that will be valuable but she needs immunity. look, she could have really important information. she's inner sanctum. >> she was on air force one, part of drafting the statement about the trump tower meeting. >> specifically on obstruction of justice. >> she's there. she helped draft the statement with the president and apparently in text communication with donald trump, jr. she could be explosive. >> good to see you. >> president trump's attacks on the late senator john mccain. here is the president slamming the now deceased war hero at a tank factory in ohio yesterday. flud. >> i endorsed him at his request. i gave him the kind of funeral
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that he wanted which, as president, i had to approve. i don't care about this. i didn't get thank you. that's okay. we sent him on the way, but i wasn't a fan of john mccain. >> that's just a small sample of the president's latest attacks on mccain, especially during that speech. jeff mason is with me. white house correspondent for reuters. you were there. what was it like to hear that and what was the reaction of the people in the crowd? >> i think for starters i would say that it didn't go over well in the room. this was a group of people who largely appeared to be trump supporters. worth mentioning this was not a campaign rally. this was an official white house sponsored event meant to talk about the economy. it was meant to emphasize the fact that president trump played a role in saving this tank factory. then he just went off on this long tangent on john mccain. there were quite a few veterans in the room. despite the fact that there were other times during his speech where they would cheer, applaud
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it was pretty silent when he went off on this bit about the former senator. >> can i ask you why you think he did it? there's so much to tout in ohio when it comes to the economy at least right in that part. different story in lordstown. the jobs brought back because of this factory and the trump administration policy there. >> sure. >> it's full of good news that he could have touted instead of going here. >> it's a great question. i don't have the answer. i'm inclined to think part of it might be the fact that he's been criticized for criticizing john mccain. it just forced him to double down. it came out of nowhere really yesterday. it was in the middle of the speech. he didn't need to talk about john mccain. to some extent it's off grabran for him. he's a president proud of his own record with veterans. it will be hard to convince a group of veterans that one of the most famous veterans in modern history wasn't for them.
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that's one of the arguments he made yesterday is that he didn't feel john mccain did enough for veterans. it's a hard sell. >> look, republican congressman, very conservative senator johnny isaacson of georgia slammed this and then did it again yesterday. listen to him. >> it's deplorable what he said. that's what i called it on the floor of the senate seven months ago. it will be deplorable seven months from now if he says it again. i will continue to speak out. >> could this hurt the president politically? >> that's a great question. yes, it could. i think if you look back at the 2016 campaign when the president first started criticizing john mccain and he was still alive there, a lot of people thought, whoa, this is going to be the moment that ends this upstart campaign. it didn't. so i'm the last one to say this is going to hurt the president.
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but it certainly could. there are a number of people in the republican party, certainly in congress both democrats and republicans who were very fond of senator mccain. there are people on the electorate who feel the same way. whether or not this continues to be a feud. whether it starts playing into the 2020 election, it is probably too early to say. >> just before you go, remind people of the facts here. one of the other things he said is blamed mccain for dragging out wars in the middle east, et cetera. just remind everyone of where the president was on this in the early 2000s. what he said to howard stern about the war in iraq and subsequently changed his tune. >> he's had back and forth positions on that. it's worth mentioning that the president didn't serve in the military. despite having a lot of supporters now in the military and wanting to court that group of voters, that's not service he
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offered. but he's very happy to criticize somebody who did and who served as a prisoner of war. >> great point. jeff mason, thank you very much. still to come, boeing taking new steps to make fixes to their 737 max airliners in the wake of two deadly crashes in a matter of months. this as we learn the justice department launched a criminal investigation. we'll have more on that next. and democratic candidate john hickenlooper says, yes, he would choose a female candidate for vice president. but then asks shouldn't women presidential candidates be asked to choose a man? those comments have folks scratching their heads this morning. and new zealand proposing major changes to gun laws in the wake of the christchurch massacre. an assault weapons ban. victims being laid to rest there today. nna be dinner and drinks. discover. hi, what's this social security alert? it's a free alert if we find your social security number on the dark web. good, cuz i'm a little worried about my information getting out.
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according to sources briefed on the boeing air crash the investigation began last year after the first crash in indonesia. sources say multiple investigations are looking into boeing's self-certification, training, marketing of the plane. 'this is really significant. what are you learning? >> reporter: this is now a criminal probe. the department issuing multiple subpoenas as part of a wide-ranging investigation into boeing's faa certification and the marketing of the 737 max airliners. you know, as you mentioned, this began after the air crash in october. there could be continued investigations, more questions after this ethiopian airlines crash a week and a half ago. the prosecutors want to get information from boeing about
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the safety and certification procedures for the 737 max. that really includes details on the training manuals for pilots, plus how the company market ed this aircraft. criminal investigations into the aviation industry are really rare. instead issues are typically handled on the administrative level. so now we have this criminal probe stemming from the justice department in conjunction with the fbi office in seattle. that's in addition to inquiries from the department of transportation's inspector general. we'll see what comes here. >> in terms of what boeing is doing to remedy the immediate issue here, what do we know? >> so far going has developed a software patch and there is a new pilot training program. the problem is that was all to address the issues discovered after the crash in october. there could be lingering questions and problems about
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this ethiopian airlines crash two weeks ago. until we know more about that crash it is possible the software fix may not solve the issue. though the software patch is expected to roll out in the coming weeks, april 2019 is the estimate. it really doesn't mean the 737 max jets will be back up in the air. there is a lot of question with the second crash that happened on march 10. >> of course. former boeing employee and acting defense secretary patrick shanahan now under investigation by the dod. >> right. the dod's inspector general looking into whether acting defense secretary patrick shanahan violated ethics rules. by doing that, promoting boeing over other contractors. he worked with boeing for over 30 years. so with vadvocacy to use boeing
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it's being investigated by the dod's inspector general. >> keep us posted. thank you for the reporting. six days after 50 worshippers were murdered in two christchurch mosques, new zealand's prime minister announced a sweeping change proposal to the country's gun laws. >> every semi-automatic weapon used in the terrorist attack on friday will be banned in this country. >> that's prime minister jacinda arden, first proposing the tightening gun laws on saturday, just a day after the attacks by a white supremacist. now this. martin savidge is with us from christchurch. do you get the sense that this has overwhelming support? >> reporter: there is no question, poppy. this has the public support. they are still very much in shock here. of course the public wants to see dramatic changes made.
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that's being oult litlined by t prime minister. she hopes it bye-bye een on the by april 11. it's been a lightning fast change. it was days after the attacks she said gun laws would change. monday she outlined what was the proposal and now she has come up with a specific plan. it is not only that the public is supporting her. it appears the primary opposition party has come forward and said they like the plan. this bans military style semi-automatic weapons. it would of course impact semi-automatic rifles, the military types that have been so profusely used in the united states in mass murder attacks. it also would seem to have a significant impact on many semi-automatic handguns. it would outlaw the large capacity magazines and also changes the licensing laws as far as who can have the weapons. they have put safeguards in
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place to make sure people don't try to rush out and stock up on the weapons. in the interim before it become it is law of the land they immediately changed the license you have to have. it's much more difficult to get. many would say it is impossible to get before the 11th so you stop people buying those weapons. it is a big change. in this country, gun ownership is considered a privilege. in the united states it is considered a right. that's why you look at something that moves so quickly here and yet has not happened in the united states. poppy? >> yeah. it's an important fundamental difference. also, martin, today, funerals have begun for the 50 victims, 50 murdered and many, many others injured. what can you tell us about those who are being laid to rest. >> reporter: there is growing frustration because of how long it took authorities to identify all those who died in the attack. they wanted to make sure they had done so. muslim tradition would ask those
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who have been killed and died would be buried as soon as possible within 24 hours. that hasn't happened. it's taken longer than authorities thought it would take. the bodies have been released so the funerals begin. they are heartbreaking to even learn of all of the victims. in many cases multiple people from the same family. later today, because it is now friday, they'll mark one week. it will be a solemn two minutes of silence. they'll also broadcast on radio and television the call to prayer. it is expected the prime minister will take part as gatherings outside the affected mosques will be public. poppy? >> i'm so glad you are there reporting this, martin. thank you for the updates. back here in the u.s., democratic candidate john hickenlooper raising more than a few eyebrows questioning whether female candidates should always be asked if they would choose a male vice president. that's next. and we are moments from the
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competitors have vowed to put a woman on the ticket. yes or no, would you do the same? >> well, again -- of course. but i think -- well, i will ask you another question. how come -- >> i'm asking the questions. >> i know. i know. but how come we are not asking more often the women would you be willing to put a man on the ticket? >> when we get to that point, i will ask that question. >> all right. he clarified the remarks after by saying not asking the same question of a woman inherently discounts female candidates' chances of becoming the nominee in 2020. cnn's greg creig noted that was asked last week. >> would you consider picking a man for your vice president? >> i want somebody who's going to get out there and fight for working people. that matters most. >> cnn senior political reporter nia henderson and dana bash, our
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political correspondent are with me. great job, dana. i love that. when we get to that point i will ask that question. tell us, dana, what you thought when you heard it and how the audience reacted? >> i got what he was trying to say or trying to put across which is -- >> right. >> i know i'm a white guy. and this is a question that is being asked of guys who are running for president in a field that is the most diverse in the history of this country. because i'm woke -- which i think he was trying to put across there -- i'm going to put out the notion of, wait a minute, we should be in a place where things are so inverted that women are so ready for being president the question is if a man can make it on the
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ticket. i think that's what he was trying to say. it didn't come across. at least his people didn't think it came across that way. he and his aide clarified that way later that's the gist of it. but, look, the reason i asked the question is because it is an issue. it is something cory booker brought up. he had an answer in a nano-second. even as a member of the diverse field cory booker understands there is a yearning for gender equality. >> what do you make of the statement and the cleanup, nia? >>. >> dana used the word woke there. >> how come women aren't asked if they would run for another woman. could there be a double-woman ticket? that would show a real evolution in terms of how people think about women in politics.
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that's a question that hasn't really come up with these women candidates yet. we'll see if that's something they would be open to. traditionally the thinking would be that they wouldn't want to do a double-woman ticket because it would be too offputting to the general electorate. we'll see. good job, dana. i thought it was a fantastic town hall down in atlanta. i'm in manchester, new hampshire covering beto o'rourke who is doing a ten-county tour. what's interesting about the field is even as much as we talk about how diverse it is, this could be a field that's half white men, right? so far there are five white men running. two johns are running. they are white men. so in some ways, as much as it's diverse, it still is a field that's likely to be half white men. if joe biden gets in, it looks like he might. beto o'rourke and bernie sanders on a number of other white men.
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there's been a conversation about whether they are at a disadvantage. none of the metrics show they are disadvantaged. i don't know if any sector in the world where a white man could be a disadvantage. >> this is an interesting discussion about women and how we fit into the broader discussion. when you talk about diversity, one thing he made a point of saying because an audience member asked him this question. you're a white guy. why should you be the nominee? there is a diversity of views as well and of experiences. in a field where you have a lot of candidates running left on -- let's say health care. talked a lot of substance last night. he's very open about the fact that he doesn't support medicare for all. he doesn't support getting rid of private insurance. he thinks that's the wrong way to go based on his executive experience. that makes him different from other candidates in his belief
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on the issue. also different in that he's a long-time mayor, a two-term governor. there is diversity in that way. >> yeah. except for the fact that he was reticent to embrace the word capitalism. >> which he did last night. he got it. >> i knew you were going to make news on that front. both of you, before you go, i know you read the margart sullivan op-ed in the post this morning about the amount of media attention paid to the boys -- bernie, beto, and biden. some of the really soft coverage some of them are getting. nia, you wrote what i felt was an important column a month or two ago on beto o'rourke and the treatment he's gotten that a woman wouldn't necessarily get. what do you think? >> yeah. you know, at least so far, a lot of polls show that even as we talk about the yearning for diversity, yearning for women, at least from the metrics we
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have seen, the white men are leading. certainly also in the fund-raising as well. we'll see how bourque is received. he'll be here in an hour or so. he's been getting large crowds. there were folks lined up around the corner at this point for him. he's certainly gotten the treatment you wouldn't see a woman getting. the cover of "vanity fair." him there, the reaganesque echoes there. we haven't seen it in terms of the treatment of women. we have a long way to go. this thing has just started. we'll see where we end up. >> dana? >> i agree. i think -- i'm not sure i entirely agree with that. there definitely is the b factor, the bro factor. not just the first names we talked about. people like kamala harris, elizabeth warren are getting their due. they are out there talking about substantive issues and working their you know whats off and people are reason ilistening.
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it's the beginning. >> thank you both. dana, great job. fascinating. see you. >> president trump claims isis's last strong hold in syria will be gone by tonight. has the terror organization been wiped out there? we'll take you on the ground in syria with the latest. i don't keep track of regrets.
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tonight. >> here are the maps that the president was referring to. he tweeted them out yesterday. on the left the president indicates the red is isis and on the left is now. claiming the isis fighters would be defeated overnight. ben wedeman is on the ground in eastern syria. ben, what are you seeing? >> reporter: poppy, that was last night. today is today. what we are seeing is there is still a very small strip of land along the euphrates river that's occupied by isis. precise numbers of jihadis inside, their family members, we have no idea. but they are still there. war planes are still flying overhead. we occasionally hear gunfire in the distance. officials with the u.s.-backed syrian democratic forces are very clear. they are explicit that the operations are ongoing. isis has yet to be defeated. some people are still surrendering who are inside --
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we understand many of the family members of isis have gone there. the 2000 arrived today. many of them in bad condition after having been inside this encampment now under control of the sdf. but, yes, operation is ongoing. when will victory be declared? it is not at all clear. today is the kurdish new year's. there was some indication they would announce it today. i have been told by spokesmen for the sdf, no, there will be no announcement today. until that happens we understand -- the understanding was that the first announcement of final victory over isis as a territorial entity, the announcement would first come from the sdf and then from the white house. so it is not altogether clear why president trump has been jumping the gun. this is not the first time he's declared victory. i believe it is either the third or fourth, but it is not over
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yet. >> it's because of you, ben wedeman and your brave team on the ground in eastern syria bringing us the facts that we know what's going on. our deepest gratitude to you. stay safe. thank you for the reporting. to mozambique where the official death toll stands at more than 200 in the aftermath of a deadly cyclone. the number is expected to rise dramatically. remember yesterday the amazing video of rescue workers saving people off roofs and in trees? it's just remarkable. heavy rain continues to be the challenge in the hardest hit areas. 90% of the city of bira has been destroyed. homes and businesses completely flattened. deliberately exposing your child to chickenpox instead of getting the vaccine? what? the kentucky governor said that's what he did with his children. dr. sanjay gupta will be with me next. g the worst...
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the u.s. and china finally coming back to the negotiating table here over trade. china announcing this morning trade talks will continue in beijing next week followed by a second meeting in washington. at the same time, the fed's decision on two big things keeping interest rates where they are and saying they expect lower growth for this economy. our chief business correspondent christine romans is here. good morning. a great time to be patient. this is what the president wanted, but maybe not for the reason he wanted. >> be careful what you wish for.
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you know, the president had gone on and on almost insulting the fed and the fed chief about higher interest rates last year. the fed said we looked at the data and we think there will be slower growth in the u.s. 2.1% is the growth rate expecting for this year. they are going to pause. they had pencilled in two rate hikes for this year. now they are not going to do that. it doesn't look like any rate hike is pencilled in. people are saying things might be a little less robust than we thought and there are concerns about europe and china. >> lowering their economic growth forecast for the year to 2.1%. why? citing sluggish housing donald trump, reduced business investment. let's just take a walk back in memory lane and let's listen to the president at a cabinet meeting in 2017. here is what he said about growth. >> we're not talking about removing them. we are talking about linking
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them and for a substantial period of time because we have to make sure that if we do the deal with china, that china lives by the deal. >> here is my fault because he did say in the cabinet meeting. that was the wrong sound byte. we are at 3.3% gdp. i see no reason why we don't go to four percent, five percent, six percent. the fed is saying 2.1%. >> and at the time we felt that was too hyperbolic if you will of this president. now, the official forecast from the white house is three percent growth. a federal reserve target and the white house at three percent is a big disparity. the white house this week said that if you get more deregulation, a trillion dollar infrastructure plan and more tax cuts, then you can get to three percent growth. you can see it is a heavy lift. >> is it significant that the fed raised the jobless rate
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prediction? >> i'm not sure. you know, i think the fed went out of its way to say the job market is still very strong and the u.s. economy is strong, just not as robut. i also thing it is significant that the fed chief pointed out that things slowed more rapidly than they thought from the fourth quarter to now. there is some switch that has flipped here. >> thank you. quick break. we're back in a moment.
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purpose. i made sure everyone of my kids was exposed to it and they got it. they were miserable for a few days and they turned out fine. this is america and the federal government should not be forcing this upon people. they just shouldn't. >> he did say he does support parents who choose to get their kids vaccinated. dr. sanjay gupta has more. >> it's worth pointing out that before the vaccine was available in the mid' 90s in the united states. the vast majority of people did fine. also keep in mind, poppy, besides the fact that it was a few miserable days and you had dozens of these blistering rashes all over your skin, there were some 10,000 people who got hospitalized every year are with chickenpox. there were 100 to 200 deaths
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every year from chickenpox. it can be a serious disease. let me show you what happened after the chickenpox vaccine was introduced. you had 3.5 million cases of chickenpox prevented every year, thousands of hospitalizations prevented every year and probably 100 det 0 deaths preve every year, as well. am i immunized against chickenpox because i had the chickenpox? yes. that's probably where the governor is right if you had the chickenpox in the past you are immunized against it. the chickenpox vaccine does provide around 90% protection against chickenpox. when you get the vaccine you are also protecting people who can't yet be immunized like young babies, for example. what this really comes down to is what is the price you are willing to pay to be immunized
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against chickenpox. are you willing to get the vaccine and possibly protect not only yourself but people around you, as well. >> dr. sanjay gupta, thank you for setting the record straight y. should note that journeys around the world to find secrets to building a better life, better for the mind, body and soul. his series "chasing life" premieres saturday at 9:00 p.m. only on cnn. top of the hour, 10:00 a.m. eastern, 7:00 a.m. out west. i'm poppy harlow. jim sciutto has today off. this morning a change in strategy as white house braces for the mueller report. the president just a week ago said quote there should be no mueller report. now he says he wants transparency, that the special counsel's findings should be made public.


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