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america's steadfast ally. >> extraordinary friendship and relationship. >> directly into the world trade center. >> at times spawned american's deadliest enemies. osama bin laden, saudi. thousands of isis fighters, saudi. these are america's friends? >> they are not our allies. >> the crown prince is a wrecking ball. >> that prince, mohammed bin salman. >> he is dangerous. >> accused of involvement in the murder. >> an outrage. >> of a "the washington post" journalist. >> khashoggi's body was
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dismembered. >> actually brought a bone saw into the consulate. >> chopped up into small pieces. >> but that crown prince, mbs, is changing saudi arabia. >> a new era. >> this man is extremely popular. >> in one of the most repressive countries in the world. >> an authoritarian absolute monarchy. >> all of a sudden some simple every day freedoms. >> i'm excited. >> america and the saudis have had a deal. >> just keep your pumps open, your prices low and you can do whatever you want out back. >> jamal khashoggi. >> but can america forgive a hideous crime? why would you bring a bone saw to an interrogation?
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in saudi arabia almost nothing is what it seems. to find the real story here you have to go beneath the surface. about 1 mile beneath to be precise. there is more oil in saudi arabia than almost anywhere else on earth. when oil was first discovered legend has it the king said cap the well, too much money brings trouble. then, he got over it. oil brought with it fantastic wealth. >> they make a billion dollars a day.
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>> this is the prince's palace, 317 rhunes. >> there are thousand of saudi princes. >> we counted at least seven huge saudi yachts. >> oil money buys million dollar prizes for camel races. expensive cars you can crash for fun. but most importantly oil carved a country out of the desert. modern cities sprang out of the sand in just decades. there's only one other force as powerful as oil in saudi arabia.
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religion. saudis practice the most extreme form of islam in the world. >> the saints of the prophet are the institution of this country it says. >> sharia is the only law. women are rendered virtually invisible. black ghosts. >> domination. men have dominated women. there's this sense that any mixing between men and women is fraught with the potential for evil to happen. >> women have the status of children. by law their husbands or fathers are their guardians. some clerics give men a free hand to beat women. mohamed counsels young men on the right way to hit their
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wives. likely with the hand he says and not in the face. if beating does not keep a wife in line, men can counsel load a wife tracking app on their phones. created by the saudi government, the app will send out a text alert if a wife heads for the airport or the border. >> testosterone is a dangerous drug. it's this view of women as both children and as chaotic sexual beings. >> the app is called -- arabic for your wish is my command. some men need more than one app because they have more than one wife. there are reportedly more than a million saudis in polygamous marriages. there are no churches in saudi arabia. christians pray in secret. >> we have secret churches there. house churches.
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>> practicing christianity is against the law. so is every other religion except islam. >> it is a tough place to be a christian. >> even tougher to be jewish. we must kill all the jews, says this so-called religious scholar. textbooks published just last year teach that jews are cowardly, devious. another evil in saudi arabia, music. movies have been considered hearsay too. if he complain about any of it, any government scripture, you may be arrested. foes of the government can be tortured, even beheaded.
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saudi arabia lives a bizarre double life. fabulously rich, drenched in oil, it is at the same time handcuffed by extremist islam. the saudis are deeply conflicted, but then so are we. because their story is intertwined with ours. the closest ally of this strange desert kingdom has been america, the world's most open democracy where freedom of religion is enshrined in the constitution. why? a "new york times" columnist put it susinccinctly. >> out back that's where you'd find the medievalism, the hatred
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of other religions. >> it is my view, fareed, that on 9/11 we got hit with the distilled essence of everything that was going on out back. >> osama bin laden and 15 of the 9/11 hijackers, all saudis. more isis soldiers come from saudi than from anywhere else in the middle east. for years america has been desperate for a new day in saudi arabia. >> to the stage, ladies and gentlemen, his royal highness. >> enter 33-year-old crown prince mohammed bin salman. he is unlike any saudi ruler the world has seen before. mbs, effectively took over for
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his father king salman two years ago. suddenly everything in saudi arabia seemed to change. >> right away he looks like a breath of fresh air. and he's forceful. ♪ then a hero comes along >> remember music was evil? but mariah carey performed here in january. >> he was beginning to do something i hadn't seen from any saudi leader ever. >> his reforms inside saudi arabia has been revolutionary. >> he says i'm not going to leave this life until i see the entire middle east in the first rank of nations. >> movies were hearsay, but then the crown prince opened a movie theater. >> don't freeze. >> i never freeze. >> watching "black panther" were
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men and women sitting together. that's dramatic change. >> this man is extremely popular. >> he'd just begun to actually fight the war of ideas. >> women were finally allowed to drive. mbs stripped the dreaded religious police of much of their power. he arrested some of the crazy clerics. the wife beating advice giver was among them. saudi arabia is changing. but even as it does there is something else going on. >> a massive purge of princes all arrested by a man who would be king. >> mbs imprisoned hundreds of princes and wealthy businessmen
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at the riyadh ritz-carlton of all places. >> we drive in under police escort. >> it was called a crack down on corruption. >> no one enters here now without official permission. >> what appears to be cellphone video emerged showing a chaotic scene in one of the world's fanciest hotels. >> and it was a shakedown power play of all his potential rivals. >> i think it was really about control. >> there were reports of torture and one death which the government denied. meanwhile, even as mbs finally gave women the right to drive, saudi police arrested the leaders of the right to drive movement. and again, there are credible reports that some of the women were tortured. >> it's a new level of aggression. a new level of brutality that has been unprecedented. >> this is an authoritarian
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absolute monarchy. >> there was one world leader who loved the prince's style, donald trump, a president with no previous foreign policy experience saw saudi arabia as the linchpin of his middle east plan. >> donald trump had no ambassador in saudi arabia. he did not understand the religious dynamics. he did not understand, i don't think, the regional dynamics. >> he put his son-in-law jared kushner in charge of it all. >> this policy was being run on jared kushner's whatsapp directly with mohammed bin salman. and jared kushner had no clue about the internal dynamics of saudi arabia, let alone how to manage such a young man. it was flat out crazy stupid. >> i think it was one of the most incredible two-day meetings that i've ever seen, that anybody's ever seen. >> when mbs came to america he was greeted like a celebrity.
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>> we really have a great friendship. crown prince, thank you very much. thank you for being here. >> he had energy, he had ambition. he was on a charm offensive in the west. >> and he had some help charming america from donald trump's favorite publication, the national enquirer. a glossy issue with the glories of mbs appeared on super market check out lines across america. >> that glossy magazine was really bizarre. >> but the truth about mbs was beginning to emerge, and it was more complicated. >> you're young, 29 years old when he became deputy crown prince. very impulsive, not very experienced young man who had dangerous dark impulses, saddam like impulses now we understand. >> u.s. officials usually weigh in when allies like saudi arabia go off course. >> they need us to draw red
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lines. and what they've all needed always over the years is to be able to say to their cabinet or advisers, i'd love to be able to do that crazy thing you want us to do, my heart's with you, but the american secretary of state broke my arm. if we don't play that role these guys will drive right over the cliff, and that's exactly what happened for real. >> that cliff was of course the murder of "the washington post" columnist jamal khashoggi. >> an international murder mystery pitting the u.s. against its key ally saudi arabia. >> it began in the dead of the night, october 2nd of last year, a private saudi plane landed in i istanbul. jamal khashoggi had an appointment there that day. >> vocal critic of crown prince mohammed bin salman. >> he is creating an environment of intimidation and fear. >> khashoggi was well-connected
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with ties to some senior royals. he had been treated well at the consulate before, so at the appointed time he went inside. what follows is from an audiotape described to cnn. >> within moments of his fateful steps into the consulate khashoggi recognizes someone. >> a former intelligence official close to the crown prince, mohammed bin salman. he tells him, you are coming back. khashoggi says, you can't do that. and then he's attacked. there are screams. his last words, i can't breathe. then the sound of a saw. >> reports from the turks that a bone saw was involved. >> jamal khashoggi's body was dismembered, chopped into small pieces. >> an expert tells the men put on headphones and listen to
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music, presumably to drown out the sound of the saw. a khashoggi look alike can be seen leaving the consulate. >> same clothes, same glasses and beard, everything except the shoes. >> saudi arabia vehemently denies knowing anything about khashoggi's disappearance. >> as details began to emerge the saudis said a fight had broken out. >> the official saudi explanation of khashoggi's death was the result of a fistfight gone bad has been deemed laughable. >> finally the saudi government settled on one word, rogue. it was a rogue operation. >> the saudi foreign minister told fox news that this was a rogue operation. >> rogue elements may have been involved. >> they're going to say he was killed by rogue operatives. >> this rogue killer's explanation, this is absurd. >> sounded to me like maybe it could have been rogue killers. who knows? >> the cia said it believed mbs was involved with the murder.
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>> mbs, the crown prince, is a wrecking ball. i think he's complicit in the murder of mr. khashoggi to the highest level possible. i think he's crazy. i think he is dangerous. >> trump appeared unconvinced. >> whether he did or whether he didn't, he denies it vehemently. >> i would really question someone's judgment if they couldn't figure this out. >> it was an example of sometimes elements of bureaucracy going rogue. >> the man who often speaks for saudi arabia in this country is ali shihabi. >> u.s. intelligence believes that jamal khashoggi was murdered on the instructions of the crown prince and that an elite team of people very close to the crown prince went to istanbul with the purpose of doing him harm. what do you say to that? >> look, if you wanted to kill jamal there's so many cheaper
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easier ways to do it. >> he was very much a friend of the royal family. he was an insider. >> he was a prominent person, a prominent player. everyone has their enemies. everybody has denied it. >> "the washington post" editorial page puts it very simply. if this was meant to be an interrogation that went rogue, why would you bring a bone saw to an interrogation? >> well, first of all no one has shown us that bone saw? >> well, how was he dismembered. >> i think again not to get gruesome but i saw an interview on television with a doctor that said any saw could dismember a human being. >> well, why did they bring any saw? >> look, he was killed and it seemed like he was dismembered and the body was disposed of, and it seems like a tragic, horrible event. but you cannot put the stability
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of a country or the strategic relationship between the united states and saudi arabia hostage to one unfortunate death of an individual. >> it's a question that's haunted the united states for years. does allying with saudi arabia come at too high a price? still ahead, the biggest u.s.-saudi crisis, 9/11. why did bin laden hate america so much? the little known story when we come back. nick's mom called the t-ball league eight times to help her shy son make some new friends. his parents shared videos of highlights, dance moves, and jimmy carlyle stealing third... almost. they sent seven texts when a new friend invited nick for a play date. but in the end, they put their phones down, and watched as nick finally felt part of the team.
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in 1996, osama bin laden declared war on the united states. these youths love death as you love life, he warned. these youths are steadfast at war. they will sing out that there is only killing. 15 of the 19 hijackers on 9/11 were from one country, saudi
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arabia. the man who led them, osama bin laden, was from saudi arabia. isis and other terrorist groups killing americans have been filled with recruits from saudi arabia. how did one of america's closest allies become the home of its most bitter enemies? to understand, we have to go back almost 300 years. to the 1700s. two men formed an alliance in the arabian desert. a cleric known as mohammad bin ahab and a warrior named mohammad bin saud, patriarch of the saudi royal family. they were the isis of their
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time, preaching strict adherence to the koran on pain of death. their puritanical faith became known as wa habbiism. >> authorities inside saudi arabia have executed -- >> wahhabism starts as a principle that i, as a muslim, can determine if another muslim is a good muslim. if he or she is not, i can proclaim him or her a heretic and that person is subject to the most drastic penalties, including death. >> reporter: wahhabism was only a minor sect of islam for much of its history. the muslim world was shaped far more by diverse societies like egypt. >> oil in commercial quantities -- >> then saudi arabia struck oil. >> 200,000 barrels a day -- >> with mountains of cash the kingdom eclipsed other muslim nations and spread its version
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of the faith everywhere. >> what oil money did was finance the building of islamic centers, mosques. putting conditions that ensured that their exclusivist ideas alone would be taught in those madrassas, those islamic centers, and those mosques. >> but in 1979, wahhabism turned on the kingdom itself. >> armed religious fanatics today seized the great mosque in the muslim holy city of mecca in saudi arabia and took hostages -- >> the attackers were extreme religious conservatives. they were appalled by the unholy westernization that the riches of oil had wrought. >> they broadcast their message that the saudi ruling family are drunkards, gamblers, people who have taken saudi arabia away
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from the true islamic faith. >> saudi forces were so ill equipped that french commandos had to be called in to help. after two weeks, the rebels were finally captured and beheaded. >> it was a triumphant and tumultuous welcome for the ayatollah khomenei -- >> that same year an slummic revolution swept through iran. >> a tearful shah of iran left his country today -- >> ousting a monarchy. launching the rise of iran's shiite version of puritanical islam, the rival faith of the saudis. the saudi royal family panicked and gave more power to the wahabis. >> from the age of 12, she must dress in black -- >> to run the kingdom their way. >> no more. women could not appear on tv uncovered. no music in schools. they basically banned fun. >> one motorist ran out of gas while waiting in line --
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>> meanwhile oil prices went through the roof. >> gas-hungry drivers were demanding answers. >> giving the saudis even more cash to spread their creed. then at the end of 1979, the soviet union invaded afghanistan. a godless superpower had taken over a muslim nation. this gave the saudis a golden opportunity. >> it was a gift from heaven to people in saudi arabia. they looked into these islamists' eyes and they said, why don't you go fight the infidels who just invaded afghanistan? >> one of the men who answered the call was osama bin laden. >> bin laden was always a true believer.
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he really believed in all these ideals taught to him by wahabi schools early on in his childhood in saudi arabia. >> bin laden's father had been a construction magnate with close ties to the king. but osama bin laden gave up his life of comfort and moved to afghanistan. forming a ragtag army of foreign mercenaries from across the arab and islamic world. in the late '80s, the organization was given a name. al qaeda. in 1990, a new enemy caught bin laden's eye. >> more than 400,000 u.s. troops in "operation desert shield" -- >> half a million american troops came to saudi arabia to defend against saddam hussein. >> reports of iraqi forces overrunning the capital of kuwait --
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>> saddam had taken over neighboring kuwait and was poised to strike the kingdom. the presence of u.s. soldiers saved saudi arabia. but it infuriated the wahabis. >> this american service woman has problems dealing with saudi men here. >> who believed that no foreign army should ever be allowed into the land of the two holy mosques. bin laden urged the saudi royal family to let him fight saddam himself with his own army of mujahadin. they brushed him off. >> osama bin laden was furious. he thought that this is the unholiest thing anybody can do, bringing the infidels to the arabian peninsula. >> in 1996, with american troops still in the kingdom, osama bin laden issued a fatwa.
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terrorizing you while you are carrying arms in our land is a moral obligation, he declared to the americans. >> outrage, shock, and heavy loss of life -- >> thus began the road to 9/11. >> terrorist bombs explode minutes apart -- >> bombings at u.s. embassies in east africa. >> who did it and why? >> killed hundreds and wounded over 5,000. the "uss cole" attack in yemen. >> it was a despicable and cowardly act. >> nearly sunk a destroyer, killing 17. >> both towers -- >> in 2001 -- >> -- appear to have collapsed -- >> bin laden's greatest triumph, nearly 3,000 americans obliterated. saudi arabia had created a monster. >> powerful bombs -- >> after 9/11 -- >> -- ripped through apartment buildings -- >> the monster turned against its homeland. >> the focus once again is squarely on al qaeda.
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>> mounting a deadly offensive inside the kingdom. the house of saud mounted a vicious counterattack. >> it was a big increase in their cooperation with us. they began systematically to find and go after al qaeda cells in the kingdom. >> but the ideology of wahhabism is still alive across the world. when isis established its schools, the textbooks that it first used came from saudi arabia. >> the narrative that you have to behead and kill anyone who doesn't believe in what you believe, the narrative you have to blow up mosques and tombs. the narrative that anyone who's not a muslim does not have any rights, not even the right to live, this is taken from
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textbooks in saudi arabia. up next -- why? >> u.s. presidents have to varying degrees been willing to pander to saudi arabia. >> why does this troubled relationship endure? the liquid gold that is the bond between america and saudi arabia. oil.
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turned a blind eye to a lot of things. it's always been a very complicated relationship. >> complicated, yes. but the reason for it is simple, according to donald trump. >> if you want to see oil prices go to $150 a barrel, like by the way russia would love to see that, all you have to do is break up our relationship with saudi arabia. >> the truth is, donald trump is mostly right. saudi arabia more than any single country controls the price of oil. they have lots of it, and it's cheap for them to turn the taps on and off. >> that fear that saudi arabia, the leader of the opec alliance of oil-producing states, could at any time turn off the oil, that fear always hung like a sword of damocles. >> and that fear endures even as america approaching oil independence, because riyadh still sets the global price.
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in fact, the saudis have usually behaved responsibly in their role as the central bankers of oil. >> oil and saudi arabia were synonymous in the 1950s and '60s and '70s and '80s. >> to understand how and why the u.s./saudi bond has endured for almost a century, we need to go back to how it began. in 1938, american oilmen offered saudi king saud $170,000 in gold to let them drill for oil. >> the arabs were suspicious of these strange newcomers. >> the king was reluctant, but the desperately poor desert country needed the money. so the search for liquid gold began. >> the geological crews combed the blistering desert month after month, searching for places most likely to yield petroleum. >> finally, they found it. >> oil in commercial quantities
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had been brought in after three long, discouraging years. >> by the early 1940s, it was clear. saudi arabia was an oil bonanza. >> about 1,000 americans and 5,000 saudi arabs were employed -- >> the u.s. and the saudis formed a company to share the profits. the arab american oil company, aramco. at the same time, america was having big oil problems at home. world war ii had severely depleted domestic supplies. >> a fresh warning that our known oil reserves will be exhausted in 10 years -- >> so it was probably no accident that in 1945, president franklin roosevelt invited king saud to a meeting in the middle of the suez canal. >> an american destroyer brings ibn saud, king of the 5 million people of saudi arabia, to a conference with president roosevelt -- >> the two leaders hit it off. it was that friendship that
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cemented the saudi/american oil venture. as it grew, american oil executives built an efficient, well-run little america inside saudi arabia. >> growing painfully, they reared a modern community in the desert beside the persian gulf. complete with air conditioned houses, two hospitals, and an outdoor movie theater -- >> all of it, though, was behind walls. because it represented a culture completely alien to the strict islamic practices of the saudis. >> always popular with the employees is the freshwater swimming pool where they can cool off after a round of golf, or a set of tennis. >> the saudi/american alliance grew stronger through the years. but there was always one sticking point. america's support for israel. that difference turned into a crisis in the 1970s.
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>> since first light this morning -- >> during the yom kippur war, the saudis protested american aid to israel and then led an oil embargo against america. >> they will reduce oil production by 5% a month until the israelis withdraw from occupied territories. >> it plunged the united states into a recession. people had to wait for hours to fill their tanks and pay sky-high prices for gas. it was the first major crisis between the two countries. now, as we face another one, the crucial question -- who is the young prince who has elbowed his way to the top of the kingdom? and what exactly does mbs want? ♪
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the king of saudi arabia is 83 years old. it might sometimes seem that the saudi king is always quite old. >> everybody who governed that country was aged and uncharismatic. >> you see, succession in the kingdom has followed a venerable pattern. by some estimates, the modern founder of the kingdom had 45 sons. when the one died, the next-oldest brother took his place. but nearly two years ago, king salman shook up this established ritual. after an interim choice, he installed as crown prince his 31-year-old son. >> saudi arabia has a new heir to the throne. >> a royal shakeup in the house of saud. >> mohammad bin salman, mbs, was an obscure young royal known to
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almost no one outside saudi arabia. now he is poised to succeed his ailing father and rule the kingdom for half a century if his health and the monarchy hold out. >> this is somebody with a great deal of ambition and who has the complete support and faith of his father. >> when mbs rocketed to power, he began to shake things up almost right away. the old saudi system seemed ancient. with senior royals running ministries like earls and dukes. mbs put an end to that, replacing princes with people loyal to him and amassing power personally. we've talked about his dramatic social reforms. >> a royal decree has been issued giving women the right to drive. >> and we've talked about his harsh treatment of some of those who advocated for those reforms. >> rights groups say women
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activists have been subjected to torture and assault in saudi jails. >> but the reasons behind the need for change in saudi arabia are crucial. >> if mohammad bin salman the reformer didn't exist, the saudi system would have had to invent him. oil is running out. their population is going up. there is no time to waste. they have exactly enough time to reform starting now. >> most employed saudis work for the government and are given generous subsidies. >> they can say whatever they want, at the end of the day they can't just bleed out money. >> when oil prices crashed in late 2014, the state was forced to drastically cut back on government salaries and spending. >> that's not a recipe for a kind of stable form of government. what the saudis really want to do is liberate themselves from dependance on oil. and have a kind of productive industrialized economy like the countries of the developed west.
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>> it is urgent because its young population is rapidly growing. >> in order to get wealthy, they just had to drill the ground instead of drilling and unlocking their people. and their energy, entrepreneurship, and creativity. >> the crown prince wants to get more saudis to work, and in the private sector, especially women. >> and women in saudi arabia are hungry. they want opportunity. there are more women getting educated than men because they're looking for any opportunity to actually do something. >> his economic plan is called "vision 2030." >> they're looking at other ways to diversify their economy. one of the natural ones, of course, is tourism. >> just endless potential. >> he has plans for a huge luxury resort in the red sea and a $500 billion entertainment city, neom, in the middle of the desert. it all seemed to be moving forward. but then came the murder of
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jamal khashoggi. mbs lost some of his key foreign investors. >> richard branson said he would freeze ties with the saudi kingdom -- >> mbs should be doing time! >> the world is angry at him. but at home -- [ cheers ] >> he continues to have real support. one more fact that may keep mbs in power is nationalism. >> people would have a sense of belonging to the state because they are saudis, not because they are wahhabis or because they have a particular way of understanding islam. >> before mbs, saudi foreign policy had been quiet, even docile. the crown prince put it in overdrive, directed against an arch enemy, iran. >> you called the ayatollah khomenei the new hitler of the northeast. >> translator: absolutely. >> whether because they are shiite heretics or personal adversaries, mbs has committed
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saudi arms, efforts, and prestige in battling them on all fronts. so far his foreign adventures have been a disaster. in trapping saudi arabia in a human rights catastrophe in yemen, being outmaneuvered in lebanon, and drawn into a stalemate in qatar. mohammad bin salman is a young man in a hurry. he has thrown so many balls in the air -- foreign policy, domestic reform, economic liberalization -- all within a framework of increasing authoritarianism. >> he is at one and the same time our best hope for the kinds of reforms, of the government and the economy and the society, that we want, and most saudis want. but at the same time he is the greatest impediment right now between washington and riyadh. his presence makes it difficult for us to cooperate. >> will this balance work? or will one or more of these
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balls crash to the ground? i'll give you my thoughts when i return.
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before the trip, jessica sent 22 texts to a swim instructor to help manny overcome his fear. their gps took them to places out of a storybook. and they called grandma when manny felt sad about not being able to swim. overall, they shared 176 pictures. but when the moment came, they held their breath,
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let me begin this brief commentary on a personal note. i knew jamal khashoggi. 15 years ago when i traveled to saudi arabia to write a cover story for "newsweek," he was one of the people who briefed me, and he spent some time with me while i was in the country. >> we have with us jamal khashoggi -- >> i had a television show on pbs before i got to cnn, and i invited him on there to talk about the future of his country. >> and then next maybe women will be able to drive. >> i'm sure we'll have it also eventually. >> he was well read and thoughtful, a saudi reformer but very much a saudi patriot. i reacted to his death personally, viscerally, with a sense of horror and disgust. but also a great sadness for the loss of a friend.
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but i've tried to keep in mind some larger factors when thinking about where the united states should go in its relationship with saudi arabia. the first is that washington does not have the power to choose who will rule saudi arabia. the kingdom is a strange country with three distinct features -- tribes, religion, and oil. all interacting in complex ways. the ruling family has been able to maintain power for so long because it has managed and manipulated this system effectively. and if mohammad bin salman was somehow toppled, the most likely outcome is the return of more conservative traditional elements to saudi government. there are very few jeffersonian democrats out there in the kingdom. the fact remains that mbs has done more reform in saudi arabia in the past few years than took place in the previous decades.
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and yet it is also true that he punishes dissent, sometimes savagely. saudi elites will often tell visitors that they need to understand that the saudi regime, for all its flaws, is more progressive and pro-western than saudi society. the reality is saudi arabia today is not in its intellectual makeup a modern country. it can only move into modernity slowly, fitfully. the most effective path forward for washington and the world would be to insist that khashoggi's death become a turning point, to pressure saudi arabia to press forward on reform, religious, social, economic, and even political reform. you see, khashoggi's murder shows that limited piecemeal openings done under the auspices of an absolute dictatorship are not enough. saudi arabia needs to be governed by the rule of law, not the whims of one man, if it is to truly move forward.
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it also needs to rein in its reckless foreign policy, for its own sake. and for the sake of a middle east that is being riven by sectarian conflict that could last for generations. most of all, it needs to work much harder to reverse the forces it has let loose in the muslim world, of reaction, backwardness, intolerance, and hate. >> the territory held by isis -- >> if washington can press the saudi government in these areas, fit can convince mohammad bin salman that the only way to redeem his reputation is to demonstrate his ability to truly transform his country, then perhaps something good can come out of the brutal murder of jamal. it will never justify it. nothing can. but it might ensure that my friend, jamal khashoggi, did not die in vain. thank you for watching.
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i'm fareed zakaria. good evening from washington where the wait continues and the expectations grow. so many here, republicans, democrats, reporters expecting the report by robert mueller to be handed over any time. a key figure, former fbi director james comey has just weighed in on whether he thinks the president should be impeached, and everyone in every official corner of this town, but especially in the white house and the halls of congress are bracing for impact, whatever it may be. to give you some idea of how intense the speculation was all day here, not to mention the effort to be first when and if the news broke, a number of camera crews staked out robert mueller's offices so they could get pictures of him coming in for what might have been a momentous day.