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big legal meeting in a suit like that. >> no, you're not, and thaelts the thing. that's gina rini in the middle. she's been coming into court and it's all very interesting suit. >> louis vuitton shoes. that's the segue. brianna keilar -- i don't know what she's wearing for shoes -- starts right now. i'm brianna keilar live from cnn's washington headquarters. underway right now. in a new closing argument president trump suggests that people will revolt if the mueller report isn't favorable to him. america's top diplomat said god sent donald trump to save the jews. plus two deadly crashes in months, and it's becoming clearer putting boeing's max 8s in the air, it was a safety risk. when asked what 2020
contenders he would like competing with, it's what the president didn't say that is most interesting. up next, the president says if the mueller report isn't favorable to him, the people won't stand for it. with the imminent release of the report, the president has returned to some familiar attacks aimed at undermining the credibility of the investigation. here's what he said as he left the white house this morning. >> i have no idea about the mueller report. we're going to see what happens. it's going to be very interesting, but we'll see what happens. there was no collusion, there was no obstruction. everybody knows it. it's all a big hoax. so i call it the witch hunt. it's all a hoax. the attorney general highly respected. ultimately he'll make a decision. >> abby phillip is joining us from the north lawn. we heard some of those catch phras phrases. no collusion, it's a witch hunt.
trying to sow seeds about the mueller investigation. what does this tell you? >> reporter: it is essentially game time for mr. trump. everything that's been building for two years could come to a head very soon. that's why you're hearing all the arguments the president is making about the special counsel, about the origins of the special counsel and fwhou the report. whatever comes out of dr. mueller's investigation once it is completed. that being said, they have no idea what's in this report. they have nothing to say about the president himself, but president trump is working on telling his supporters, essentially, that robert mueller is conflicted, he kancan't be trusted, and that this report he's producing, whether or not it's ever made public, the report itself is as a result of.
i should add, brianna, he's been talking a lot about his electrical victory, the fact that he wasie skplektd being robert mover's toefrts. he thinks the report is going to undermine the election in the united states. >> we have a team of reporters who have been covering every step of the way with us now. we have evan perez and pamela brown with us. the report, we're waiting for it. it appears it is going to be released very soon. we keep saying that. >> it sounds like a broken record. >> we really do believe it's going to be soon. >> what's interesting is the president messaging ahead of it, this kind of prebuttal.
he's trying in ernest to undermine this investigation. >> it's interesting to me because a deputy who didn't get any votes is appointing a man who didn't get any votes. i had one of the greatest elections in history, would you say that's true? >> yes, absolutely. >> they came from the valleys, they came from the cities, they came from all over. they voted in one of the electi elections -- nobody can even believe that he didn't tell me, but he recused himself. he appointed a guy, he had just left the office -- >> think of it. i have a deputy who reports a manual. >> pamela, what does that tell
you about this and what is his legal team saying about this report? >> several have upheld mueller's appointment and the authority of what he's doing. the bottom line, you're seeing the president become the communicator and the chief setting the tone of how the white house is going to respond to this. the president has been trying to undermine robert mueller and the investigation, tweeting, i think, more than 70 times, it's a witch hunt. i think you'll see, when this was wrapped up. there was no charges relate to do conspiracy. there have been meetings in the white house in order to figure out how to respond to different
scenarios because they really don't know how this is gog play out. ma there is an aggressive tone he's likely to continue with. >> they have different scenarios, one that this is very bad for the president, the other one being it's completely anti-climactic, right? >> robert mueller's work is facing an impossible task. there's been, on the left, so much intimidation to build um. these are the things that if you it fmd. so it's kind of an impossible standard. he's hard to reach, frankly, given the fact of his mandate and given where the law is on this stuff. before we get to that, though, we do have to remind people of how extraordinarily fruitful
this investigation has gone for 675 -- this is the 675th day now of this investigation. 37 defendants charged, including three companies. six trump associates who have faced charges as a result of this. five people who have been sentenced to prison so far. 16 trump associates, at least, who have been found to have some kind of position in the campaign. >> let's talk about how this is going to go down, sara, because robert mueller will finish his report, send it over to the attorney general, and then what? >> we're all kind of looking at what is going to be the beginning between a terminal legal battle, but the president will deliver his report to the
attorney general, bill barr. then bill barr is going to, according to the constitution, include any instances where the attorney general overruled a decision that robert mueller wanted to make to prosecute someone. maybe that is a situation that bill barr overruled, maybe roger whitaker overruled, but we might want to do. when there wasn't an executive summari summarily. pamela brown has reported that the white house hopes to see the entire summary, not just portions of it. th then.
whaz they don't want to put it bunch of information. that's a different one than we've seen from james comey, and at the end of this we may not get a lot of information. it's going to be a fight because congress will make a whole lot of noise about wanting to see more than what they'll see initially. >> robert mueller may have been overruled on the report that goes to the attorney general. does that have to be included on what goes to congress, and will the public know that? >> yeah, that's going to be in the report, whatever bill barr tells members of congress. that's a very important point. i think the one big question
we've been anticipating the answer to is we know the president never sat down with robert mueller. robert mueller asked for that interview. the question is did robert mueller ask to subpoena him? was that rejected? if that happens, then we'll know that, because bill barr has to tell congress about it. >> take your bets whether congress is going to want to share that information with the american public. if they get a document only thi thi. >> james comey who trump, of course, famously fired wrote an op-ed in the "new york times" where he actually said he hopes the president is not impeached before the end of his term. here's what he said. if president trump were removed from office by congress, a significant portion of this country would sthee as a coup, and it would drive those people farther from the common center of american life, more deeply
fracturing our country. why is he injecting himself in the very political part of this discussion? >> i don't think he can help himself, but i'll let evan take this one. >> thanks, pamela. it is a very good question, and i think a lot of us would savely an and. ment of the and some of the things he did at the beginning of the trump administration. there was a part of this op-ed where he sort of says he doesn't really care whether or not -- i'm going to sort of sum it up but he said he doesn't really care if there was collusion or not. i'm like, what? really? >> i have a hard time believing he doesn't care. >> he brought us here. >> he brought us here, and the president also brought us here
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we have new details on the investigation into the boeing max 8 airplanes, the ones that were involved in two deadly crashes in less than six months. cnn is learning that part of boeing's sales pitch was that it would be easy for its experienced 737 pilots to learn to fly, amounting to a significant cost savings for airlines. our drew griffin has been digging on this. tell us what you're learning. >> reporter: brianna, the 737 max was promoted as a newer, more efficient version of boeing's old popular plane, so similar to the old version of the 737 that only minimal pilot training was required. boeing's chief test pilot described that training on this interview with flightboeing.com. he said they could take their 737 pilots, give them two and a
half hours of ground training, really on an ipad, and they would be good to go. >> so a pilot can caulk into here and will find everything he can just like he can in the ng. and it's down to roughly faa-approved this for 2 and a half hours of training. >> this is all about introducing the new plane but as a tremendous cost saifrvings to boeing, which is just configuring new airlines on an old airplane. boeing's promotional material talked about the low cost of this rollout. millions of dollars will be saved because of its commonality to the next-generation 737. training was all done on ipads,
no instructors needed, not even a max similarity. pilots are talking about how two and a half hours of ground training is not that big a deal. pilots should not have had an issue transitioning to this medal. they did not. that's whenly. meant as a safety feature but now being investigated for possibly being involved in these cashes -- crashes and how this system may have been involved in the nosediving of the planes. how did these pilots not
know about it? >> i think that's going to go into the investigation of what went wrong here. as i reported last week, boeing has boeing inspectors certifying boeing planes for the faa. actually, boeing is doing its own certification on its own planes. that's potentially part of the problem. the other problem is somewhere along the way, boeing thought this was such a minor safety enhancement. we expect to hear that from boeing directly but that's what's taken place here. >> andrew griff in, thank you very much. there is a censor that helps pilots when there is something wrong. it is not part of the standard equipment and not all airlines
pushed it. the federal aviation authority, we've learned, doesn't have the resources to do it. is that a failure of oversight? is that right for something to fall through the cracks? >> well, you know, it's actually surprising to the general public, but anyone who knows anything about aviation safety knows that the faa really acts as a limited oversight of the industry and that boeing has the people with the knowledge of the complex design systems. boeing has the resources to conduct the certification process the faa doesn't. i wouldn't get in an airplane that was designed by the faa. boeing are. . they have ton an integrated in the story of the max aircraft. >> so boeing argued that the
plane wasly. . z z zoo. >> why did everyone think that training was sufficient? >> the training was about the mcat system. it was not highlighted to the airlines. i think if it is airlines understood this safety feature caused two crashes, if the safety feature is on board and the alarm goes off that the aircraft is going to pitch down, maybe they would have required more robust training. training is done on a similaritsimilaritmisimulator. >> boeing had an alarm that
would have warned people about the mcat system. it was an add-on. it didn't come standard with the model. should it have initially, and certainly should it have after the first crash of lion air when it became apparent to pilots that said there is something on board that you didn't know about. >> it was developed to be a cheaper airplane to fly on fuel costs. boeing developed it in a way that it wouldn't require a lot of training, and then it wanted to have an option of selling the airplane at a price that would be attractive to its customers and not having the safety options installed allowed it to sell it at a lower price. and also at the same time, if an airline ordered it like the american airlines have, boeing could make more money on installing these safety processes.
safety should never be an option, but airlines just like cars have often been sold as a s safety feature that the customer has to pay for. >> jason green, thank you so much for your expertise. democrats are alleging that senior officials like jared kushner are using other's cash to do their work. and the president says the isis in caliphate is 100% defeated. we're hearing it now. [ a-class ] to 68 degrees. we hear you. we made a car that does, too. the all-new a-class. all-new thinking starting at $32,500. cake in the conference room!
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this just in, it is white house declaring moments ago that the caliphate in syria has been 100% defeated. press secretary sarah sanders making that on board air force one. ben, you've been in syria as isis holds out. they say isis is 100% defeated. is that what you're seeing? >> reporter: no, we're not. the last 24 hours we're seeing airstrikes. these are american airplanes. right now you can see a flare behind me. i can see tracer fire going toward the horizon. there is another flare behind me. there has been gunfire coming out of the isis positions which
are, admittedly, a very small piece of territory on the edge of a hill outside on the eastern end of this town of babus. the fighting is not over. if you were to look at the amount of territory, it is very small indeed, but the fighting goes on. what we heard from a spokesman of the syrian democratic forces today is they believe there are still several hundred holdouts including women, including children who are being used as human shields and they believe these last holdouts are not going to surrender peacefully, that they are going to fight to the death. and it appears that this may be the beginning of the final, final, final battle. i mean, i've been here for 49 days and we've heard time and time again predictions that it's about to end. i've lost count of how many times we've had to explain that president trump may be saying that the caliphate is completely
defeated, but what we are seeing with our eyes and hearing and hopefully being able to show on television is it isn't defeated yet. it is on the brink of defeat, but there is still fighting going, there is still forces with the syrian democratic forces as well as american, french and british servicemen involved in this military effort. it is not over yet. brianna? >> why has it been so difficult? what are the challenges facing the forces tlhat are taking on isis? why have that he not been able to clear isis out of a reportedly small area but they're clear this is still going on? >> we assume the americans, the british and french wildly underestimated the number of civilians who were inside. when i came here 49 days ago, we
were being told there was a mere 1,500 civilians and 500 jihadi in a larger area, but it turned out there was 30,000 civilians, many of them women and children of isis jihadis as well as a thousand jihadis still inside. there have been military operations halted to allow those who wanted to leave to leave. that includes civilians, that includes jihadis, thousands of whom have surrendered but there are still those holding out, holding out probably because of their desire to die, in their opinion, as martyrs. so it's a complicated operation. an effort has been made to avoid a civilian death toll that could run in the thousands if there were to be just an all-out assault to finally regain this territory. now, it's perfectly understandable that president trump wants to come out and announce the final defeat of isis. i certainly would like to do it
with veracity so i could go home after 49 days in this country. on this battlefield i'm afraid isis cannot be declared. >> we hear the fighting going on in syria. the white house is facing questions about the president's daughter and son-in-law. in a letter to the administration, house oversight committee chairman elijah cummings said a senior adviser has been using what's app, a popular application system, to communicate with foreign leaders. he also says that ivanka trump, also a senior adviser, may be in violation of the privacy records act with her use of e-mails. we have the author of the book "doing justice" preet barara
now. what are the vulnerabilities? >> particularly in light of these continuing questions that will be investigated as to why jared kushner seemingly, through the basis of nepotism, got a national security clear answanc the highest level over the objection of career folks. there is a reason you have career assessments made of vulnerabilities and the trustworthiness granted nationals. it seems that repeatedly over and over and over again, either because foreign officials decided they could exploit vulnerabilities in jared kushner's background and his financial entanglements and also the repeated nature of his mistakes, omissions in his
security clearance documentation, i think it's a real problem, and i think we're going to see, as you pointed out a second ago, a real investigation in the house of representatives. >> so this morning, talking about -- i want to pivot now to the mueller report. the president seems to be p prebuting it. he called this a witch hunt and clearly trying to undermine his presidency. you talked about prosecutor's thoughts of crime, punishment and the rule of law. what is your argument and why did you think this book is needed right now as you talk about having faith in the justice system? >> look, it is the nature of the job if you're a prosecutor or an investigator to get criticism from and pushback from those who you investigate. that happened to me many times. it happens to every investigator. witch hunt is not a phrase that was invented by donald trump, it's been used by people who don't like the fact that some of their misconduct is being
exposed and investigated and potentially prosecuted. the problem is, and one of the reasons i wrote the book, is we seem to be at a higher decibel level of that kind of attack than we ever have been before, and you have these statements by the presumably serious people who are close to the president saying things like there are alternative facts or truth is not truth, and sometimes you have to take a step back and talk about the ways in which you can have a fair system, what fairmindedness means, how you keep an open mind, how justice is done, how truth is discovered. so in the series during my time as a u.s. attorney talking about the ways in which you struggle with the ethical dilemmas and the legal issues, how maybe by example that can be done. in the case of the president, like what i had to face, he has the largest microphone on earth. so for protective reasons, he uses that microphone, if you will, to attack the honor, integrity and motivations of people like bob mueller, who i
think of as an american hero, that has more faith in the system than anything we've seen before that's in the ordinary course of doing prosecutions and investigations. >> you were the chief of the southern district of new york. we're awaiting word, of course, on the mueller report if it's finished, if it's been sent to the attorney general, but what are you anticipating more? the mueller report or what the southern district is investigating? >> i'm equally curious about both, i guess i have to say, and i think there is a question of timing with respect to both of those also. i think the most immediate thing is the mueller report. i have heard the same rumors as you. as i sit here, i look at the clock, it's about 1:37 p.m. you and i both since last night have been hearing the rumors and the insinuations that we were going to have news that the mueller report was delivered to the attorney general by noon today. maybe that happened, we just don't know about it yet, but it's a waiting game and i think that's going to be the next fight. i don't know how long the southern district is going to take to look at all the things it has been reportedly looking
at, including the inauguration committee and some aspects of the trump organization, but i think they're both interesting and important things to watch. >> preet bharara, we appreciate you talking with us today. >> absolutely. and secretary of state mike pompeo says it's possible god sent president trump to protect the jewish people. this as the president repeated his accusation that the democratic party is anti-jewish. we'll have reaction next. dad: oh, hey guys! mom (on speakerphone): hi! son (on speakerphone): dad, i two goals today! vo: getting to a comfortable retirement doesn't have to be an uncomfortable thought. see how lincoln can help. the way you triumph over adversity. and live your lives. that's why we redesigned humira. we wanted to make the experience better for you. now there's less pain immediately following injection.
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president trump doing the lord's work. that is what secretary of state mike pompeo is saying in the wake of the president tweeting his new foreign policy position of recognizing israel's sovereignty over golan heights. >> could it be that president trump right now has been raised for such a time as this, sort of like queen esther, to save the jewish people? >> i would say that's possible for the faith in this place and the work our administration has done to ensure that the democracy in this jewish state remains. i'm confident that the lord is at work here. >> we have democratic congressman gregory meeks with us. he's a senior member on both the house foreign affairs committee and the house services committee. sir, what's your reaction to secretary pompeo's comments?
>> number one, it's almost laughable. president trump is one to try to divide and clearly president trump has just been trying to get involved and play politics in an election in israel. so, you know, it's comical when you look at everything that this president does and his foreign policy in general. >> is it appropriate for the secretary to say that? >> absolutely not. >> why do you think that? >> look, i'm saying because -- look, here's what we get. the president is trying to divide -- if you listen to some of his statements regarding israel and trying to turn it around as if democrats and republicans are against israel, we know it's not true. it's a lie. when you look at democrats and republicans, by the way, stand strongly with israel, when you look at iron dome and foreign defense and understanding that israel has a right to defend itself, everybody is there. do people have disagreements
with president netanyahu? of course they do. that's why there is a close election in israel. everybody is not agreeing with president trump and the secretary of state regarding policies of netanyahu. so to try and say that individuals should do what mr. netanyahu says and his policies, it's like mr. trump saying, i'm here to save america. i'm doing god's work and i'm the only one to do it. that's what he said. >> it does seem the president -- earlier today he continued with that accusation. he said the democratic party is anti-jewish. there have been some prominent voices in your party that have raised questions about israel. there are members, certainly, of your electorate who have raised questions about israel as it relates to palestine, and this is something that the president has seen the ability to drive a wedge in your party over. but when he says that, do you
worry that this sticks when he says the democrats are anti-jewish? >> again, i think that he is conflating what the facts are. i don't believe that democrats -- in fact, i know they are not anti-israel. they may be anti some of the policies of netanyahu. i'm a firm believer in a two-state solution. netanyahu seems to be moving away from that. that does not make me anti-israel. so there's a lot of individuals within israel. they are not with mr. netanyahu, because if they were, then there would not be a close election. so the fact they're not with mr. netanyahu and the policies that he wants to go forward with, those in israel on the other side does not make them anti-israel. and so it's a misnomer of what he's trying to say, just like there is a lot of americans that are anti the policies of donald trump. that does not make them anti-american. >> the president certainly has
been very supportive of netanyahu, and after he tweeted this recognition of israeli sovr ea -- sovereignty over the golan heights, he said he didn't know about the election. let's listen. >> i wouldn't even know about that. i wouldn't even know about that. i hear he's doing okay. i don't know if he's doing great right now, but i hear he's doing okay. but i would imagine the other side, whoever is against him, is also in favor of what i just did. every president has said do that. i'm the one that gets it done. >> do you think president trump really didn't know about the israeli election? >> absolutely not. he knew. he would tell you on the other side that he gets a national security advisory every morning. i'm sure if he gets the news, he probably doesn't read it himself, but i'm sure he has someone that comes in to read it to him like i read to my grandchild in the mornings to let him know what's going on.
he doesn't read, we understand that, and he doesn't do any research or work himself, but i would assume that someone from the national security office will come and advise him on matters that's taking place around the world. so there is no way, there is no rational individual that would believe he did not know that there was an election going on in israel and it was a very close election for his friend netanyahu. >> all right, congressman, thank you so much. congressman gregory meeks joining us from new york. and the dow is taking a big dip right now as investigators are looking at a looming indicator of a looming recession. also she's on the cover of "time" and wornnders, quote, wh so many are obsessed with her. is alexandria ocacio-cortez good or bad for democrats? we'll assess that. choosing my car insurance was the easiest decision ever.
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she has been in office less than three months, but democratic congress one alexandria ocasio-cortez has certainly made her presence known. she is on the cover of "time" this week. but is this rise good or bad for the democratic party? we have may rust-oen joining us. >> i think if you look at her rise, she has given a real fresh face, a powerful woman vibe to the democratic party. but at the same time, obviously her views are so far to the left of where many americans are. particularly secentrists,
independents, all of those critical voters that the 2020 candidates will have to win over if they want to take back the white house. so she is in a district that i think it is 29 points democratic leaning. and so she has caused this sort of little two step that the candidates have to do on the campaign trail where a lot of them will say that they are supportive of her ideas in concept, whether it is tax cut, the "green new deal," initiatives on climate change, but also giving themselves a little bit of wiggle room so they can pivot back to the middle. so it is a double-edged sword for the party. but the republican party needs a villain and she is now that instead of nancy pelosi and so clearly that is the rolled she stepped into. and she is relishing it. >> no one says as goes queens goes the country. but you wrote a piece for cnn
politics about this effort by kamala harris kamala harris to reach out to latino voters. what is she doing and is it working? >> we are seeing it work to some extent. if you look at our most recent poll, she tripled her support among voters and particularly minorities. her path to the white house as she and her strategists see it is by winning women and african-american voters. and minority voters. and she is doing outreach in these communities all over the country particularly in states like nevada which has a huge hispanic population. making the case that she's been at the forefront of thieves these immigration issues whether for dreerm d.r.e.a.m.ers or tps or the policy of family separations. she is making the case that she is the candidate that will advocate for latinos.
and she has a lot of competition out there as we see beto on the trail speaking in spanish. we'll see what happens, but they are trying to reach the vote eveers by going to them where they are at, in restaurants, at rallies bringing community headsets. and we'll have to see how it goes. >> all right. may, thank you so much. and next the president's new and confusing closing argument against robert mueller. u edible? no. ♪ ♪ can't sleep. me neither. woo! number one! ♪
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