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hello everyone. thank you for joining me. so what is in special counsel robert mueller's special report? today could be the day we find out. we know attorney general bill barr is back at the justice department now. and rod rosenstein arrived minutes behind him. an official said barr's goal is to release the top conclusions to congress today. will it be enough to satisfy law makers on both sides of the aisle? >> i think the report needs to be made public. it needs to be released to the congress and it needs to be
released to the american people. this has consumed two years of the american people's time. we need full transparency. i'm concerned that it may have become a fishing expedition. >> this report has to be made public. of equal importance the underlying evidence has to be shared with congress. that evidence not only goes to the issue of criminality, but the issue of compromise. this began as a counter intelligence investigation into whether people surrounding the president or the president himself was come ppromised by a foreign power. there's still a lot to be concerned, the president's relationship with russia and putin. >> president trump is spending the day golfing in west palm beach florida. a different scene unfolding outside his property in new
york. at any moment 2020 presidential hopeful kirsten gillibrand is taking her fight to the white house to the president's door step. she'll give her first major speech outside the trump international hotel. first, we start with the anticipation surrounding the release of the mueller report. cnn has a team of reporters and analysts standing by who have covered this story for nearly two years. let's go to sarah murray. bill barr working through the weekend. he's back at the justice department. rod rosenstein is there. what's different today? >> i feel like we had this same conversation yesterday where we're waiting. we're still waiting. they had more work to do yesterday. they didn't feel comfortable releasing the conclusions. we're still hopeful these will come out today. congress is hopeful.
as for robert mueller he went to church this morning with his wife just steps from the white house. he's having a leisurely sunday morning outside the white house. look, we talked about this yesterday, this is going to be the beginning of the battle. they're going to release the conclusions which could be more than we're expecting. it's not going to go as far as law makers want to see. there was a bipartisan vote where they wanted to see the whole report. that's not going to happen today, but we could see a few pages. >> what do we think barr and rosenstein are discussing? the majority want to see the full report. might they be discussing how do we supply a conclusion that will make more people happy? >> i think it's possible they're err on the side of putting more
meat on the bones in the initial report. they have been following the political climate in washington well enough to know they're probably going to see law makers clamore for more no matter what they put out. >> voters are saying the same thing. >> they are. it's one thing to put out a one-page report and it's another thing to say here's a number of pages and you can take it from here and direct us based on that what you want more information on. we'll see. they're not immune to the political climate. >> for the rest of us hurry up and wait. let's check in with cnn's senior congressional correspondent. law makers are waiting on the report. many want all of it. democrats threatening to
subpoena if everything they want is not turned over. what more can you tell us? >> democrats amping up their demands and making it clear whatever is turned over today will not be enough to satisfy their demands. they're preparing for potential subpoenas, potential court fights. they're demanding all the evidence that led robert mueller to make his decisions. that will inform their own investigations over the next several months. now earlier today you heard the battle lines being drawn. democrats in particular making their demands very clear and republicans saying, well, look the justice department has a lot of discretion and can hold back information. we >> we'll try to negotiate. if we have to, yes, we'll issue subpoenas to get that information. >> you're willing to take that
all the way to the supreme court? >> absolutely. >> it's not the department of justice's job to give anybody in the house or senate what they want to do to go off on a partisan investigation that might lead to impeachment. >> democrats are saying the precedent set in the last congress should inform what the justice department does going forward. there were hundreds of thousands of pages of emails and other documents related to the clinton investigation because the republicans were investigating why the fbi didn't go forward with the prosecution of hillary clinton. democrats are saying that the precedent means they should get every piece of information central to this probe. they're demanding that the trump administration preserve all records that could be turned over to capitol hill. also, they're saying classified
briefings will not be sufficient. that's something that nancy pelosi made clear to members in a conference call yesterday. we're seeing the battle lines being drawn, the fight just beginning. it's certainly not the end. >> thank you so much. we'll check back with you. let's talk further on all of this. with me right now is sarah murray, evan perez and shan woo. good to see all of you. the president has been very relaxed this weekend. >> yeah. >> for two years he's been calling this whole process a witch hunt. >> illegal, unconstitutional, a hoax. i think he's getting good advice and he's taking it.
they don't know what's in the report. republicans were buoyed by the the fact there were no new indictme indictments. we don't know the whys of all this. did mueller decide not to prosecute because there wasn't sufficient evidence or because you can't prosecute a sitting president? we don't know the answers. >> why not a face-to-face interview? >> the president's lawyers should feel proud of themselves for that. i think that the questions about whether the trump campaign crossed lines it should not have remain to be seen. he's got to sit back. he can't take a victory lap. you know, we could be in a political situation where the president claims vindication and democrats say no, no, no. look at what's in the
conclusions. you could have two different sets of conclusions even after we see what barr releases. >> still it remains all those other investigations. jerry nadler said regardless of what is in the mueller report congress will continue to investigate the president and will issue subpoenas to get the full report. some gops say the democrats are in danger of losing power. >> if mr. nadler is saying our committee is supposed to be a paint brush that is supposed to taint the presidency, i would disagree with that. that's an abuse of power. we also have to respect what the department of justice and mr. mueller has been doing. if we do that, the american people can see we're respecting the rule of law. >> does it appear that some members of the gop are starting to change their tune a little bit? >> i think it's going to be interesting to watch members of the both parties take what the
special counsel gives them, what bill barr gives them and decide what to do next. the republicans may say we can trust bob mueller's conclusions and they're the same ones that wanted to see everything that had to do with the hillary clinton investigation. they may suddenly feel different when it's the president of their own party. democrats may find themselves in the opposite position where they thought what was being done to hillary clinton was so deeply unfair. they trust bob mueller. they think he was a great guy. they still want him to show all his work so they can decide what to do. we'll see plenty of political back flips. >> we know a lot of law makers and a lot of members of the american public say we're owed some information. it's been 22 months. even the attorney general during confirmation hearings was promising some level of
transparency, as much as he was able to afford. listen to what he said. >> i believe it's very important that the public and congress be informed of the results of the special counsel's work. my goal will be to provide as much transparency as i can consistent with the law. >> what does that mean today, as much as i can with respect to the law? >> i don't mean to be cynical. i think he's parsing his words carefully. there's no requirement what he has to turnover. he might say very little. with regard to the opening salvo being we were all waiting for the mueller report to drop and the legal matters to stop. now we're waiting for the barr summation. there will be a lot of legal battles. >> all the time we've been hearing from the president it's
a hoax, sham, it's terrible they're going after me. if this report is somewhat favorable to him, meaning no indictments that we know of, if the president decides this is favorable how can he now turn around and say i love this mueller report. this was everything i wanted. >> have you seen donald trump operate? that transition is not going to be hard at all for him. look, one of the things behind the scenes that bill barr has been wrestling with in the few weeks he's been attorney general this time is this very question of how much of this he can release and out of fairness to the president everything indicates -- the fact this administration closed on friday without new indictments, without anything sealed and things on the left wanted to see, it's good news for the president. if barr wants to be fair to the
president, he will provide more information. explain exactly what happened here. the more that is kept behind under wrap raises more questions. so out of fairness to everybody i think he is under a lot of pressure to do this. >> you remind us, he has done this before. barr under george h.w. bush. he knows he has a lot of latitude. >> he does. >> much discretion with what to release. what's different here is the president is the subject of the investigation. >> he is. it makes it a little bit complicated. i think one of the things is that it's different last time bill barr was attorney general. there's a feeling around bill barr that this will come out. there will be a view of all this. probably a judge may end up
deciding this. bill barr is under pressure thinking if this is going to come out, i might as well -- i need to make sure my report matches that. the criticism will be so extreme that he might have tried to hide things. >> we don't know how long the report is. we know that robert mueller is a stickler. we know he's a digger. we know that if i had to guess i would say it would belo longer rather than shorter. it was written because he assumed a lot was going to be released to the american public. you can't keep anything secret anymore. maybe barr is deciding how volume now's it should be. he knows the questions the american public wants to know. the american public wants to know if the president was involved in collusion or obstruction even if you're not
prosecuting. >> aren't the american people owed that explanation especially after all the tax money has been spent? >> that's what democrats and republicans are saying. there was a unanimous vote in the house saying release it all. mueller has to be paying attention to that. >> the complicating factor is -- you heard from adam schiff that this began as a counter intelligence investigation. there's a lot of this that will remain -- >> it's classified. >> there's a lot of information that the fbi is still pursuing especially with regard to the russians. what were they up to? what were they trying to do? some may not have risen to a criminal level. for the fbi they spend sometimes ten years looking at things like this. some of that will still be under wraps. that will be frustrating for all of us. we want those answers. >> how much of that information could compromise or compliment
those other investigations? >> the one that is are live i don't think they'll let it compromise. to gloria's point, it's important we keep reminding folks the difference between a criminal investigation and congressional investigations. by nature the criminal investigations are owe papaquop. we want everything kept secret. it's the opposite with congress. we want to let in a lot of sunshine. mueller is conscious of that. he would not have undertaken it with the idea is i'm writing this public report. he undertook it like i have a mission to investigation. the underlying information executive privilege being asserted over what the president may have been saying in the white house, that's classic process which normally you would say it's privileged. but there's obstruction.
>> does he say, in your opinion, this is why i'm not charging? in other words, you can't charge the president. we know it's d.o.j. policy. does he say i'm not charging because of the d.o.j. policy or i'm not charging because -- >> it's not there. >> i didn't have the goods. >> i don't think he's going to draw that conclusion. i think he'll lay out what the evidence is. i don't think he'll say because we thought this wasn't -- he didn't mean it when he said i want to get rid of comey. i don't think he'll get into that. i ha i think it's going to be the witnesses and documents and the conclusion we're not charging. >> is it simply i'm doing this investigation and then it's up to congress what to do with it? >> he's reading it as i have a duty to tell the ag what we did. here's what we did. past that, i think he thinks
mission accomplished. >> when people talk about recommendations, you're back in fbi james comey land. nobody likes the way that went down. that's the sort of territory that mueller could get in if he gave a recommendation. >> if there's editorializing of the recommendation. >> right. >> thanks to all of you. appreciate it. you're all going to stick around. here we go. there's so much more straight ahead. coming up a rather quiet president trump is back on the links today arriving at trump international golf club. the white house has not received a briefs as far as we know on the mueller report. will the president get to see it before congress? we'll talk about that next. and you're looking at live pictures out of new york. senator kirsten gillibrand set to give her first major speech
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i want to take you straight to new york where senator kirsten gillibrand is giving her speech outside the trump international hotel. let's listen in. >> our constitution was always intended to grow and adapt as we formed a more perfect union. even our national anthem ends in a question. oh say does that star spangled banner yet wave over the land of the free and the home of the
brave. that open-ended question is what defines us, not just who we are or were, but who we will be. it challenges us to choose to take the next step to fight that next fight, to answer that fundamental question. will brave win? the truth is brave hasn't always won. brave isn't winning right now. brave doesn't spread hate or bully the vulnerable. brave doesn't put greed and self-interest over millions of lives. brave doesn't cower behind lies and walls.
brave doesn't pit people against one another. that is what fear does. this president has tried to reduce america to its smallest self by attacking the values and institutions of our democracy and turning our most cherished principles inside out. rooting for bigotry and discrimination and violence. closing our doors to refugees. taking from the many to line the pockets of a few. president trump is tearing apart the moral fabric of this country. he demonizes the vulnerable and he punches down. he puts his name in bold on
every building. he does this because he wants you to believe he is strong. he is not. our president is a coward. that is not what we deserve. that is not what you deserve. we deserve a president who is brave, a president who will walk through fire to do what is right. we deserve a president who inspires us to stand for something greater than ourselves. look up at that tower. a shrine to greed, division and vanity. now look around you, the greater
strength by far is ours. we are here to reject the politics of fear and hate, to listen to what lincoln called our better angels of our nature. the ideals of this country, opportunity, equality, justice, are worth fighting for. we are here to embrace our shared humanity and rise above our differences. we don't build walls that are emblems of racism and fear. we build bridges, communities and hope.
our unity of purpose lifts us higher than any tower. we are here today because we know that when we join together and fight for our values, brave wins! americans proved this with their own bravery every single day. you've already heard from some of them today. there are countless more examples all around us. the high school students who responded to unimaginable tragedy by organizing, marching to end the gun violence. that is brave. the dreamers who tell their stories and stand up for the
right to call this country home. that is brave. the sexual assault survivors who raise their voices against the powerful that tell them to stay silent. that is brave. the millions of americans who are speaking out against this administration's cruelty towards women, muslims, lgbtq community members and children at our border. that is brave. and of course the formerly well-behaved women who organized, ran for office, voted in record numbers and won in 2018. that too is brave. day in and day out americans are
making a choice, a choice to resist the backward pull of this administration and pushing us towards a better future. it's brave choices like yours that have inspired me to take on the fight that others won't. it's because of you that i have chosen to be brave too. the people of this country deserve a president worthy of your bravery, a president who not only sets an example, but follows yours. your bravery inspires me every day and that is why i'm running for president of the united states. thank you.
by coming here today, we are sending a powerful message. we will not let anything or anyone divide us. we will not cede control of our country to corruption, greed and powerful interests. we will keep showing up and we will keep fighting back. the fight ahead may seem daunting, but there is hope when we look down at our feet and see whose shoulders we stand on. we all have heros that inspire us in this struggle. my grandmother poly noonan was one of mine. she would have been proud standing here today with all of you. she was larger than life.
she was a fire brand and a democratic organizer who cursed like a sailor. she spent her life fighting for women to have a seat at the table. she never let anyone tell her that she couldn't. she never let anyone tell her that she didn't belong. she instilled that in me. more than anything else, my grandmother taught me that being brave doesn't just mean standing up for yourself. it means standing up for other people who need you and raising your voice on behalf of others who aren't being heard. it's that core principle from my grandmother that has driven my life in public service. over the years i've learned that
bravery means standing up to the powerful, summoning the courage to confront them head on. that's what i did when i first ran for congress in a red, red, red district in upstate new york that nobody thought i could win except perhaps for my mother and that tells you a lot about her. people told me it has more cows than democrats. you can't possibly win. i took those odds and i won. the next election, i won again. that time by a 24-point margin. why? because i never forgot who i served.
that's why i stood up to the greed and voted against the bank bail out that would leave tax payers holding the bag even though i was told it would end my career. it's why i stood up to corruption by making insider training illegal for congress. no one in our government should be lining their pockets as a public servant. it's why i stood up for ka louseness by demanding the 9/11 heros be given the compensation they deserved. it's why i stood up to lies in the pentagon and in congress on behalf of sexual assault survivors. it's why i demanded the repeal
of don't ask, don't tell, a policy that has a corrosive and harmful impact that undermines not just our character, but our national security. it's why i'm proud to have stood up to donald trump more than anyone else in the u.s. senate. i will go to toe to toe with anyone to do the right thing. whether it's powerful institutions, the president or ene even my own party. i am not running for president because of who i'm fighting against. i'm running for president because of who i'm fighting for. i'm fighting for an america where power truly belongs in the hands of people, where our
leaders care about everyone in this country and lead not from weakness of ego, but from strength of character. where compassion and integrity define our government, not self-interest and corruption. where we just don't care about the profits we make today, but the future we're leaving to our grandchildren. i know we can be that america, but it means starting at the root of our problems. greed. right now the special interests are displacing the voices of the people of this country. find me any so-called unsolvable problem and i'll point to the greed and corruption in the way. polluter profits take precedence
over drinking water. opoid manufacturers get a pass instead of indictments they deserve while our neighbors are sold more indicative drugs on purpose. popular common sense gun control is stopped while bullets kill our children. dark money is at the heart of this outrageous inaction. we need to crack open government, flip the switch, let light flood in. that's exactly what i did when i came to washington and challenged congress by making my meetings, finances and taxes public. i wanted my con sistituents to w
i was working for them. i will lean to transparency. that's why i'm not taking corporate pack money in this campaign. no federal lobbyist money and no individual super packs. as president i will fight for publicly-funded elections. it would change -- it would change the way washington works overnight. imagine just for a minute -- imagine your voice just as loud as the coke brothers. what a concept. by leveling the playing field our democracy will thrive. and we will protect against the dysfunction that's poisoning washington right now. as your president, i will be
answerable to you and you alone. i will be elevating the concerns that you would raise at a town hall or at your kitchen table. i will govern based on the principle that our democracy only works when elected leaders hear directly from you. only then can we finally start making progress on the problems we face. our goals are ambitious, but the truth is they're not controversial. americans across party lines support these common sense ideas. it's time for this country to make quality affordable health care a right and not a privilege. we must pass medicare for all.
i have fought for this since my very first house race in 2006. we have a plan to get from our current system to single payer and i know because i helped to write it. we will create competition, get costs down, eliminate the greed. on education it's time to guarantee universal pre k, affordable daycare and high quality education for every kid, no matter what block they grow up on. we must make higher education affordable and accessible for everyone and reduce the crush of student debt. the federal government should not be making money off the backs of our students.
in my administration we would refinance all federal student debt to the lowest available rate. here's a big idea. let's improve and expand the gi bill to make college free for anyone who agrees to donati natl public service. that way our young people can pursue their dreams debt free while helping others. to grow the middle class, we need to start rewarding work again. we must make full employment a national priority by investing in free job training through apprenticeships, community colleges and state schools.
we'll work with employers to connect under employed and unemployed workers to connect with employers in the field of their interest. with worker rights under attack we need to protect the right to collectively bargain and form uni unions. we need to fight right to work and support car check. let's do right by our workers and raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour nationwide. we have to transform the infrastructure of work by finally making national paid leave a reality. it is outrageous that we're the only industrialized country in the world without it. you should never have to risk your job and income to take care of a new baby, a sick family
member or your own medical needs. i refuse to accept the false choice between your paycheck and your family. i have led this fight in congress since 2013 when it was not part of our national conversation. you're welcome. hear me when i say this, paid leave, equal pay and affordable daycare are not just women's issues. these are economic issues, ones that will determine whether or not our country succeeds. at the same time we need to dismantle the institutional racism that per vads our society and holds back millions of
families. it's in our health care, education, economic and criminal justice systems. it's in the growing crisis of black women's maternal mortality. it's in the sentencing disparities that keep black men in prison for years when white collar criminals go home on bail. it's in the wealth gap between communities of color and white communities that only widens from generation to generation. these challenges call for solutions, both targeted and broad. like higher standards for maternity care, a national commitment to full employment, postal banking, ending cash bail
and legalizing marijuana. we need to restore our moral leadership in the world. we must secure our borders effectively and fight terrorism relentle relentlessly. let's be very nucleclear. racism and fear is not a national security strategy. building a wall, ripping apart families, banning muslims and turning our backs on refugees isn't just wrong. it makes us less safe. we need to repair our relationships with our allies and stop fawning over our adversaries. we need to leverage our
diplomatic tools to make americans more prosperous and more secure. and always treat military force as a last resort. we must bring an end to these endless wars. america's commander in chief is not a dictator. the decision to deploy our troops can never be made lightly or unilaterally without congress. we need to protect the integrity of our elections by holding accountable any threats to our democracy from abroad or right here at home. the stakes of this just got higher on friday. the mueller report must be made public.
all of it. nobody in this country, not even the president, is above the law or immune from accountability. it is not often that i agree with richard nixon. he was right to say that the american people have a right to know whether their president is a crook. finally, we need to treat global climate change like the existential threat that it is. we need to pass the green new deal. let's make this our generation's
moon shot, addressing a global challenge of this urgency will take massive effort and transformational vision, which is exactly why we should do it. let's invest in our crumbling infrastructure, create sustainable green jobs and protect clean air and clean water as a human universal right. i would like to go further than others who support this plan. i would also put a price on carbon. i would put a price on carbon to use market forces to steer companies away from fossil fuels towards clean and renewable energy. we can't afford not to do this. we don't have time to waste.
john f. kennedy said he wanted to put a man on the moon in the next ten years, not because it's easy, but because it's hard. i believe we should look at global climate change exactly the same way. we should aspire to net zero carbon emissions in the next ten years, not because it's easy, but because it's hard. it is a challenge that we are willing to accept. one we are unwilling to postpone and one that we none of these big fights and equally big goals will be easy. nothing worth fighting for ever has been. but i have never backed down from a fight, and i am not about
to start now. my faith tells me to care for the least among us. feed and clothe the poor, help the stranger, the sick and the incarcerated. i believe we are all called to be the light of the world, to defeat the darkness, and to treat others the way we want to be treated. i am running for president to fix what's been broken, to repair our moral fabric and to rebuild the common bonds between us as americans. this fight is so much bigger than any one election. it's about making a choice and deciding who we are and who we
are going to be. after all, america is and always will be the home of the brave. no matter how difficult the course before us, no matter how dark the hour. the lessons of our history is that justice, fairness and truth are possible, but only if we are willing to put everything we have on the line to achieve it. so each one of us has a choice today. will we defend this democracy? will we speak for what we believe in? will we reject the hate and fear
and greed and corruption? will we fight with every fiber of our being because everything we care about is at stake? will we be brave? you already answered that question just by being here today. and if you are with me, if you are ready to fight and take on this fight with me, join my campaign. go to kirstengillibrand.com and contribute to help power this movement forward! i believe in my bones that we can do this. i know that years from now, we will look back on this moment. we will look back on this moment in history and we will be able
to say that we did something about it! we stood up, locked arms and proved to america and the world that when people come together to drive out the darkness, hope rises, fear loses, and brave wins! thank you and god bless you all! and god bless america! >> all right, one week into her candidacy for presidency, kirsten gillibrand there taking aim at the president without even mentioning his name, but this is her first big rally since going into the race for 2020. she is right outside at this rally outside the trump international hotel joined by her family there right now. i'm quoting in part, accusing the president taking from many to line the pockets of a few. he is not strong.
our president is a coward. before then focusing on policy promises. health care for all, medicare for all. i want to bring in our cnn national correspondent athina jones who is there. athina, what about the crowds, what about her message? >> reporter: hi, fredricka. this speech today was about two things. it was about the senator introducing herself to voters here in new york and around the country. she's been working hard to try to boost her name recognition. as you just mentioned, she talked about many of the things she stands for, many of the things she's long been fighting for like medicare for all. reminding the crowd she was for that way back in 2006 when she first ran for office. she talked about national paid leave. she talked about nuclear pay, about the green new deal, about the $15 minimum wage. the folks who introduced her, one of them was her friend from dartmouth college, connie reddin, who talked about what
kirsten would bring to the country. she talked about d.r.e.a.m.ers, folks who worked to combat sexual assault. she's showing the people what she will be standing for. another big part of the speech was going directly after president trump. she mentioned him by name. she said he was tearing the moral fabric of this country. it was to bring her fight to his doorstep. no, it is not where he lives, but she talked about the tower here as a shrine of greed. she talked about the president as a political figure. she brought it here to criticize him and hopefully get a little attention in doing so. gillibrand has been struggling so far in the polls, being in the low percent, 1%, zero percent in the polls, so she has a ways to go. >> athena jones, thank you in new york. so many on pins and needles
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