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the president says no collusion and robin meade agrees. that's what the attorney general no conspireing with russians during the election by the president or people around him. major vindication on that front. and a decision by the attorney general not to pursue charges against the president. return iing to the white house e president was understandably elate d. >> i just want to tell you that america is the greatest place on earth. the greatest place on earth. thank you very much.
>> the president tonight on the tarmac in florida had more to say. >> it's a shame that our country had to go through this. to be honest it's a shame your president has had to dpo through before i even got elected it began. and it began illegally, and hopefully somebody is going to look at the other side. an illegal takedown that failed. and hopefully somebody is going to be looking at the other side. >> illegal takedown that failed, he said, led by ro merit mueller. yet he's lifted a burden. we want to start at the justice department. if you can't walk us through what's in the report. >> there's two takeaways of the summary of the special counsel's
report. the first is the writing was on the wall when it comes to the question of collusion on coordination on conspiracy between the trump campaign and the russian dpoft. so far at least we have seen nothing to suggest that was going to happen. and the attorney general says it here. the investigation did not establish that members of the trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the russian government in the election interference activities. but on the second question of obstruction of justice, that's a gray area. on that issue, the special counsel punted to the attorney general. he said there was evidence on both sides. he looked at the facts. he looked at the law. he's what the attorney general writes on this. while this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime, it does not exonerate him. while mueller did not exonerate
the president on obstruction of justice, bill barr did that. >> you have new information about the discussions between mueller and the department of justice about potentially subpoenaing the president for an interview. he did a written interview. >> that's right. we knew for the better part of a year there was ongoing negotiations the trump legal team was managing to ut them off, but we're now learning at the same time as those negotiations were ongoing, there were discussions going object between top justice officials raise iing the speck tar of a s. they decided it was not warranted. mueller actually never made a formal request for that subpoena, but the fact that it was raised at all is significant. it also means that it allowed the attorney general bill barr who wasn't around for those discussions allowed him to say to congress on friday that mueller had had never been turned down for any major
significant investigative step. >> democrats put a lot into the mooueller investigation. they are already pushing back over these findings. >> they are certainly disappointed. but the main issue here will be what exactly are they going to get to see. what's left here? as already the attorney general has spelled out that they are looking for ways to try to present other findings from mueller's report, but he also explains there's grand jury issue here's and they can't disclose grand jury material without violating the law. i'm told by a senior justice department official there's a small team working on this trying to figure out what can be done, what can be disclosed, work with the special kunl but already the chairman saying tonight he wants to call bill a
barr up to capitol hill to testify about this. >> appreciate it. you heard a bit of the president's reaction a moment ago. joining us with what's next is abbi phillip. i imagine the president certainly from all the reporting is pretty elated tonight. >> that's right. he's feeling pretty good coming back to the white house after a long weekend in which he was waiting just like we were to find out what was going to be in that report. he was thrilled by the result. the press secretary said the president wanted him to relay the message that he thinks that this is very good. it's very good for him for someone who has been talking about no collusion ask no obstruction for two years, that he and his aids believe they can take what is in this letter r from bill barr and say there's, in fact, no collusion and no obstruction. as laura pointed out, the obstruction issue is more
complicate ed than that. this is how the white house is going to frame it. the president as he was on air force one coming back from d.c. to florida was pouring over bill barr's letter. this is all they have at this point. he still hasn't seen the full mueller report. he hasn't been briefed on what is in the full report, but the letter they were reading it line by line going through it, looking over the language about the russian interference and potential collusion. the president was thrilled with what was in it. and i think white house aids are feeling good not just about what this means for them at this motion, but as they go into a 2020 cycle. the president's top aids said this is like president trump win ing the 2016 election all over again. i think for president trump it feels like a doover of that election night, especially after two years of questions about how his election as president of the the united states came to be. >> also the president alluding
to investigation into the other soid. i'm not sure if it he means the russia investigation or democrats or the hillary clinton or the obama administration, but he's certain ly not moving on from this right away. >> yeah, it's not really clear what he was are referring to there, but there's some hints. in the past president trump has talked about the tact that he believes that hillary clinton should have been investigated more. that the collusion he says was on the democratic side and not on the republican side. but we're also hear from some of the president's supporters on capitol hill and elsewhere that they believe the obama administration where the interference investigation began should be looked into for their actions during the campaign when it comes to authorizing some of the investigatory methods that looked into president trump's campaign. whether or not president trump takes stepsed to that we don't know and so far the president
secretary at the white house is saying that's not under discussion right at this moment, but certainly it's something that many people believe is is within president trump's power. it would be something of a gift to his base that wants him to go after clinton and the obama administration for what they say is wrong doing in the origins of this investigation. >> abbi, thank you. this is a night for legal fire power. joining me is chief legal analyst jeffrey toobin and robert ray. robert, we haven't heard from you. what are your thoughts on the conclusions? >> i don't think it's a surprise that given the fact on the obstruction piece. aside from the whole exoneration stuff the attorney general found there was insufficient evidence. he's a chief law enforcement officer for the entire country.
there may be further inquiry, but that's a substantial determination. that was also the cover because he was there from the very beginning. he's the one who appointed the special counsel. so that's important because it reflelkts continuity. the president presents unique legal and factual issues because he's the president. and when you're trying to apply the obstruction statute, my own take on this which i haven't heard yet what i'll just say a special counsel was appointed, but with regard to that particular determination since it involves object the president, my overall sense is i don't really think that the special counsel has the authority to make that call. i do think that's the appropriate now what bob mueller
presented in the report and the legal problems, i think those are all important considerations. but ultimately it's a policy call by the department of justice about what to do involving a president in so far allegations are concerned. >> i think i disagree with it 100%. the whole reason that mueller was appointed is because the political appointees in the department of justice have a conflict. they owe their jobs to the president. so the idea that you would take that important decision away from the special counsel seems to me precisely wrong. >> was it taken away from him or bob mueller saying i'm just going to give thup. sglz it was because of the
attorney general at that time recused himself. >> if ultimately barr want ed t overrule mueller and say there shouldn't be a prosecution of the president, that would be fine. unlike the counsel, he should have been allowed to make a recommendation of i don't know. >> i don't find that bizarre at all. i think it's desirable and in the country's interest that the department speaks with one voice. one of the recognitions that you have to concede here and you alluded to it is is this is not the same world as independent counsel. the special counsel is a creature of regulations that
emanate from the attorney general of the united states. they are departmental regulations. ultimately this is the department of justice speaking. >> but as you know, democrats are saying this particular issue, the attorney general wrote his position on this particular issue in an audition letter to become the attorney general so his position was well kno known. >> i suppose that's so. i have no wrproblem with that. but overall, the context is remember this was going on for 22 months. long before bill barr came on the scene. rod rosenstein has been supervising from the outset. it's clear from the letter itself that he was consulting about whether or not a sitting
president could be subpoenaed and whether it was appropriate to do so under these circumstances. and also i imagine close consultation with the office of legal counsel and others within the department about, okay, there's this interesting question that raises both profound legal and factual issues involving allegations involving obstruction of justice. >> yef and i discuss ed this. i'd like your thoughts. whether if there's no underlying crime, if there was no collusion and there was attempts by somebody to obstruct, if there's no actual underlying crime, can there be no collusion? >> nobody disagrees with the legal point. i'm sure you pointed this out. as a technical legal matter, there's nothing that prevents charges from being brought. but can we talk practical problems here and not being an armchair prosecutor, but sfrom
somebody who has been in the position of having to decide what to do with the president of the united states, do you really think a responsible prosecutor whether it's bill barr or bob mooueller or robert ray or whoer would be bringing obstruction charges against a president of the united states in a situation in which what the allegations involving obstruction with regard to a matter that doesn't constitute a crime. >> with regard to the question about whether false statements were made. there's another level to this. i issue d a report in which i found that president clinton made false statements, but for other reasons even though there was sufficient evidence in this case, chose not to prosecute because there was alternative to prosecutions that i felt vindicated the public interest. and under those circumstances, it was not appropriate to charge
bill clinton once he left office. which gets me back to my first point. it's a significant determination by the attorney general today in addition to bob mueller's determination that there was no c collusion, the attorney general of the united states has made a finding that there's not sufficient evidence. you can disagree with that. you can choose if the democrats want to to go down impeachment road, but understand the obstacles that are there. are they going to go down this road and go through an investigation again before the house judiciary committee where you call to issue subpoenas. >> that's essentially democrats are wanting to reinvestigate the mueller investigation. >> they want to see the mueller investigation. that's the point. they want to see the report. based on a four-page summary of
whether there was impeachment. >> i get wanting to see the report. >> i think that's a fair point. i don't disagree with that. >> underlying documents, that's a long shot. you never heard republicans about the underlying documents can when hillary clinton was being investigated they got all sorts of stuff the department of justice doesn't give up. but everyone agrees and the house of representatives voted unanimously that the report on which that barr's letter is based, that short voshoub released. >> the attorney general has raised already in this four-page letter things we have already talked about previously. but now it's on paper. there's some grand jury secrecy issues. that can be overwrridden with ty seek to fwo to a court order. but that presents some concerns and questions. the precedent comes from the
water gate era. but we're in a different world now. there was some belief then you could turn over something to congress and it wouldn't immediate ly go out to the public. i think that's just not going to. had. >> i'm already receiving some hate mail about it. people who hate the president are disappointed by the no collusion find iing because the were hoping this would bring down the president. but as an american, this is a good thing that our president, whether you like him or not, has not colluded. i get why democrats are upset. but overall big picture, everybody should pretty much be happy that it the president did not collude. >> and to tease out the president's comment, that's why we are a great country. we are a great country because you can investigate a sitting president of the united states,
you can do so with the space of time and resources over a 2 22-month investigation. >> you can do it with the president attacking the investigation. >> and you can ultimately live in a country that abides by the rule of law and also abides by ask comes to respect conclusions that are designed to bring some finality to this. whether we have that or not remains to be seen. we have open issues and jeff is right to point out we have the open question of we haven't seen the report yet and how much are we going to see. put reached a significant juncture today. >> good discussion. thank you. more perspective on the political poifronts with dana b. >> dana, a huge win for the
president. it can't be overstated. >> it absolutely can't. he's been saying as his regular montra maybe even more than make america great again that there was no collusion and now he has a two-year investigation to back it up. that is a huge thing. and on the question of whether he tried to obstruct that investigation, you know, we have the attorney general saying his interpretation of mueller's findings was no, but they are clear not to exonerate. that's where the democrats are left right now. in addition to the democrats saying, wait a minute, we need to see the tul report. which is legitimate except for the tact that people i'm talking to understand full well that what the attorney general did today was very much intended to and perhaps successfully so shape the narrative to make it
it's old news. >> seeing the report on however much the public is able to see is going to be essential for people's confidence in this investigation. do you agree that there is a strong argument that tonight whatever you think of the president and your politics, that overall learning that the president didn't collude is a good night for america? >> absolutely. i'm glad you raised the point. not only did we learn that the president did the not conspire or collude, but people around him did not. so that gives you more confidence in the team. i think had we learned that this president had had conspired, it he would have been a dark day. when the tapes came out on richard nixon, it was a dark day for the country. this would have been a dark day too. not only is this a good thing for the country, i think it's very good for the justice department. they have been beaten up by this president so much.
there's been an effort to undermine the justice department ask arguing this was basically an effort to take down the president. it was going to be done by partisan b angry democrat. what has the justice department done? they handled it by the book. the people who work for bob mueller, whether contract kras or republicans, came together this a thorough investigation. mueller walks away from this with everybody thinking at least he's telling it straight. and i think it underscored how important it was for the justice department to be independent of the white house. this justice department has achieved that in this case. >> i knew you thought there'd be more indictments. >> i had been led to believe that was a real possibility. the first thing is to recognize that the american system of justice has just delivered to president trump the great eest
gift of his presidency. and is that is that he did not conspire with a foreign power. and in response i think we need to lock at what his first reaction was was to declare war on his enemies, not to welcome this in an opportunity to bring us together. whatever he feels he might have been through. and when you look at what the democrats are about to do on the hill, the important thing is we need to know every bit of what's in that report. there's a narrative here that should be even a basis for reconciliation. we don't know the facts. we have a little four-page summary. it's essential for the finishing of a democratic process here that we get every word of this
report except what needs to be redacted for national security purposes. and then see what has to be done next. >> it does seem like the democrats or some democrats in the house are in danger of now after years of saying how great mueller is, now they want the actual original documents that the mueller investigation used to write their report. i understand seeing the report again the original documents is do you think -- it seems easy for the democrats to go too far and to not at least acknowledge happiness that the president didn't collude. they are walking around sad and crying tonight. that's says a lot about them. >> it is a great moment we learned this. we know this investigation
indicted 18 russians. so it's good our justice system is helping fight a foreign enemy that is attacking us. so there's a couple good things for america. the democrats have overplayed their hand and created a monster in their base, who they were told over sand over again this s going to result in the president being impeached. that's where the base is. and now they have dozens of investigations and lost all credibility. i think we're at an inflection point for the media and democrats on capitol hill. if they want anyone to take them seriously moving forward, there's got to be some accountability. people repredicting that the president would be impeached, i have evidence of collusion. he's the chairman of the house intelligence committee. he has no credibility left to talk about this at all. if they were going to have any credibility. media organizations should go back and talk to the people that shaded their coverage towards collusion and ask some tough
questions so the public starts to regain their trust and for the democrats if they are going to do these investigations, they don't have any credibility unless they start taking accountability for what happened. >> did it surprise you that mueller left the issue of obstruction. >> it didn't surprise me that he didn't bring charges. mueller was operating under the scenario of the justice department guidance saying they can't indict the president. so it always seemed like mueller was going to be turning over a set of facts and recommendation. did does seem they didn't come to a final conclusion. and i think we should take note of that mueller's report says it doesn't exonerate the president. there's evidence on both sides.
i think in some ways, that might be as far as we see bob mueller go towards something like a comey statement as comey did with hillary clinton in the summer of 2016. that for mueller to go out of his way to say that the report doesn't exonerate the president actually points to something troubling being in that final report whenever we get to see ii it. >> one of the points barr makes is there's a pro and con. and a lot of the pro side were public statements. what i would read into that is the president didn't spear fear with the investigation and there's nothing that would lead you to believe he was obstructing behind the scenes and there's some evidence of that. it looks like what bar rshs was
saying that leaves a a gray area as to whether or not that would be a provable case for obstruction. that's contained in the memo he sent to the hill. >> it is an interesting point. a lot of the focus this has gotten given the president's comments which have led mooul tore point them out as some of the reasons why obstruction was so much a topic that they were looking into because the statement by the president himself made it seem like he might be trying to obstruct justice. >> i don't think the president helped himself by fighting back on this, but that's not the point. my point is that since the 2016 election, i believe in a free media. the media is important in this country and they are loouzing the american people's faith. the ratings have been going down for 20 years. it predates the president coming
in. we're atten ann inflection point because americans have been led to believe and a lot of it is is coverage making collusion was real. hold people accountable for that. come out and say we were wrong. hold journalists accountable for mistakes they made. that would earn trust back. he was just exonerated for collusion and the media needs to help themselves earn the trust back of the american people at this moment. >> i was just going to say that might be a point that you are obviously making and i'm hearing from other republicans today, but i'm also hearing from republican sources who know ask like the president that they understand that he very much contributed to the frenzy around this whole russia situation with the things that he said and frankly the things that he
didn't say. now he was right and he was exonerated today, according to this summary, on the notion of there was a way to prove conspiracy between his team ask russia. we're going to give him that. but i also talked to a republican before coming on a a hope and desire that because they think that politically speaking the president has a second chance here. maybe a reset button. that he can hit, if he can get out of his own way politically, and say, okay, i can work on things that people in the suburbs and not in my base want. show that it's not just about going after his enemies but taking this chance this he has and run ining with it on policy. >> we got to get a quick break in. more ahead. more on robert mueller's work
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his report to congress? >> i think we can read into that the tact that mooueller has nev spoken publicly sibs becoming special counsel. but i do think it is noteworthy that we saw in this four-page summary not a single complete sentence out of mueller's report. that presumably this is a highly detailed, highly knew constituenwansed report that he's turned over however long it may end up being and note worthy to me that attorney general barr didn't feel he could quote an entire sentence at any point in the four places where he was trying to list the principle conclusions for the public. >> that's interesting. david, you no doubt support the idea of releasing the full report. but as much as of the report as possible. >> yes, there's almost universal
agreement on both sides of the aisle. we had to vote in the house of representatives. it was unanimous on both sides. the report ought to be released. and very importantly donald trump called for the report to be released. barr was responding. it seems to be the letter is straight forward. i don't think that he has a complete sentence or fragment of a sentence, i thought he quoted from the mueller report where it was important he put the words in. but i think barr handled this by the book because he knows there's a good chance one way or the other this report is going to come out. and he does not want to be in a position where he tried to spin it within the first weekend and turned out to be caught. so what we have islikely to be
very consistent with the mueller report itself. >> if you're paul manafort and roger stone, have the chances of a pardon increased now? >> i would guess yes. i think the president may have been hinting that way in what he said when he was leaving mar-a-lago today. i think we ought to talk about the elephant in the room. that is what happened? what happened with the russians? what happened with the trump campaign? what happened with the individuals who have been investigated. there's a narrative here. there's context for two years there's been the ability that is developed because of mueller's investigation to finally have a body of knowledge while the rest of us have been walking around with little pieces of knowledge and information. and maybe some disinformation. but we now have the ability to
get a full a story as we could ever get. so the elephant in the room is this report because it will tell us what happened. we need to see it and see it in full and as rapidly as possible. and i wish i were as optimistic as david is. usually david and i agree on most everything. but i can already hear and see a lot of backs getting up particularly on the republican side about not releasing all of this it material for one reason or another. you can scrub it. but there's a way to have a full look and then we'll learn the full story and maybe the american people could get some
resolution and calm about this. >> and there's another real important reason for us to see the details. maybe not the raw investigation, but the details in this report about what russia tried to do. even in the conclusion, it says that there was no conspiracy between the russians and the trump campaign, but the russians tried. we know that from past indictments. so one of the things that people in congress are talking about tonight, which is a good thing, is well let's make it more clear. that people who are a part of political campaigns should have limits on their interaction with foreign governments or maybe even more etspecially with foreign adversaries. that's the whole notion of the trump tower meeting. they claim they didn't understand. that's the not the protocol or what you do. maybe that should be taken to another level.
>> just on that point, it would also give a sense of maybe some sort of an explanation of why there were so many lies by people in the orbit about stuff. maybe since there was no collusion, they didn't need to be lying about, so why were they lying and was it just sleazy behavior or lack of experience. >> or does he go to the obstruction question? trying to get money from one thing or another. or tilt the election. i must say i do think there are a lot of mysteries that have not been unravelled by the mueller report. i'm not sure we're going to get the full answer on this. we do not know why donald trump
has this obsession with being so kind and ir respectful of putin. it makes no sense. and trying to fill in the rest of the story is not necessarily a legal part of the story, was there the chase of the trump tower? did that have something to do with what he's been doing on russian policy? was there money laundering? there was a lot of serious questions that haven't been answered by the mueller report. ultimately we need some answers. >> thank you for this. coming up, as robert mueller leaves the stage, politics will accelerate. if you love breakfast and a good deal,
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the chairman of the house judiciary committee wants to hear from william b oor barr. it will be in concern of the discrepancies of the jthsz department joining me is a member of that committee. thank you for being with us. do you accept mueller's finding that the president did not collude with are russia as the president has been saying for the last two years. >> we just have to see the full report. obviously, if that's the finding ask it's backed up by lots of evidence then we're going to accept it. we haven't seen anything. a three-page letter so far and it's deeply concerning that we don't have the full report. i think the obstruction of
justice charge is an extremely serious one and mueller, as you have been reporting, did not exonerate the president. after 22 months he did not exonerate the president and then we have the sitting attorney general who already made his views clear last year has somehow decided that what he has seen is enough to not prosecute and put that out before congress has even seen the report. so i have to say that we're very, very troubled by all of that. >> is seeing the report enough for you? or are you also saying, as many democrats are, they want to see all the underlying documents. the thing that confuses me is many democrats have been saying they had faith in mueller. it does seem like if you want to see the documents it shows a looack of faith in mueller and s team. >> not at all. i think the reason we want to see the underlying documents is because there's so many pieces that we are investigating, as
you know. there's been 81 requests for information from the chairman so that we on the judiciary committee can investigate a series of things much broader than what robert mueller was given the charge for. we have jurisdiction over and responsibility for obstruction of justice. but also abuse of power and public corruption. those are the investigation ises we were prevented from having at all for the last two years under republican control. and now that we have the gavel, we are finally beginning those investigations. the information that mueller has collected is going to be key to those investigations. they are going to provide real information. but in addition, we have to look at how these conclusions were -- how did he get to these conclusions. it's important for us the not to just accept without really understanding ourselves ask being able to say to the american people that we represent that we have looked at all the information, we understand how we got to these
con clougss or not. remember, a big piece of this report does not exonerate the president. a sitting president on an extremely serious charge of obstruction of justice. so we have to make that determination for ourselves. >> although if there had been enough evidence for a criminal charge, isn't that something that mueller would have weighed in on? >> that's what's so confusing to me. that's why i want to see the report. because he was actually asked to do this because of conflict of interest. that's why there was a special counsel to start with. so that presumably meant that he was going to give us his determination as a prosecutor. and instead what he did is came back and said i'm laying out, according to this letter, both sides of why this could be an obstruction of justice charge. i'm assuming. or why it may not be. and that, to me s very
concerning because then we don't have his opinion on it. it goes to the attorney general who has seized the moment with less than 48 hours after a 22-month investigation and said, oh, we don't think this rises to that level. i say that's just not sufficient. we have got to look at it as congress. you have it look at the june 2018 memo that barr wrote unslitted solicited where he claimed sweeping executive powers for the president. in the memo, as you know, he said that he didn't even think mueller should be able to demand answers from the president. in fact, mooul ueller did not interview the president. he still has not talked to the president and i think that means that the ball is back in our court in congress and in the judiciary committee to actually look at all of this information and make our own determinations
on this piece, but also continue our investigations on the other pieces. >> i really appreciate it. thank you very spective from go kasich. you said the special counsel's investigation must continue unfeddered. what's your reaction? >> they have to release the report. and i'd like to rephrase what you said earlier. that is thank goodness we don't have the president implicated with a foreign power. >> that's good news for everybody. >> that's very good news. secondly, as i listened to the congresswoman, they are going to have i don't foe how many investigations. they have the right to do some investigations. i think it's right they are going to take a look at what has been concluded or not concluded around obstruction. but to go we'll have to do this all again and we have 8 requests for all material, i tell you, i
feel like we're off to the races again when it comes to the issue of not putting this on this congresswoman, but we see a lot of hate in the country today. i made a list. people hate hillary. they hate obama. they hitted bush jr. they hate trump, pelosi we don't only want to defeat you, we want to destroy you. >> you forgot media. >> they're not a person but you're right. we don't believe the media. we boo the media. all this hatred, i know you understand, is taking us down a path, like the hatfields and mccoys, like a civil war and everybody has to take revenge on somebody else and the next group is going to take. anderson, what about the things that hang over our children's heads? what about the debt bomb? what about healthcare? the issue of inequality. these things can't be dealt with when we just hate one another.
we have to slow down. that doesn't mean congress doesn't have a legitimate role here. they better be careful and limited. i reminded democrats about this, they did not do so well in the mid-terms because of the trump investigation. they did well in the midterms because they staked out a position on things like healthcare ending the rhetoric the people in the suburbs did not like. and revolted against. they better be very careful what they do here. but to everybody watching we got to knock off the hate. just start thinking about somebody else being your brother. it's not just about tearing somebody else down, i'm sorry. >> it also -- it didn't really strike me today, friends calling me, people calling me reading stuff on twitter, just how everybody sees this result through their own political lens of they hate the president or they like the president. for those who hate the president they're disappointed he didn't
collude. i just don't understand that. it's good for the country, good for america our president did not collude, whether you like him or not. >> look, when people root for somebody else's destruction, we're taught as young children, and we try to teach all the people around us, you shouldn't ever be gleeful about somebody else's trouble. when people -- it goes on both sides. >> sure. >> it's not the democrats saying, the republicans. look what they say about hillary. i'm told in palm beach last night they were yelling about lock her up! when is this going to stop, anderson? i tell you what it will take, it will take the public. i made a speech at an american university, the students said, when does the poll larization end? i tell you where it ends. with you. for all the people watching, take a breath, step back. it doesn't mean we're through.
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lawmakers in the four page summary he sent this afternoon. now, he alone will decide which parts will be given to the american people. a big decision for the man who only took office five weeks ago, certainly no stranger to politics. >> do you swear the testimony you're about to give will be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? >> i do. >> william barr fielding questions about his friendship with special counsel robert mueller. >> you say you've known robert mueller a long time. do you have a special relationship with robert mueller? >> i'd say we are good friends. >> would you say you understand him to be a fair-minded person? >> absolutely. >> do you trust him to be fair to the president and the country as a whole? >> yes. >> let me introduce bob mueller the assistant attorney general in charge of the criminal division. >> turns out barr and mueller have a history. they been friends 30 years going
back to their early days in the justice department. barr was mueller's boss during his first stint as attorney general in the early 1990s under president george h.w. bush. at the time, mueller was the head of the criminal division. sfi have the utmost respect of barr and his public service. when he was named as special counsel i said his selection was good news and knowing him i had confidence he would handle the matter properly. >> reporter: the two men are so close, mueller attended the wedding of two of barr's daughters and their wives go to bible study. during the confirmation, mueller split with barr about the witch hunt. >> i don't believe he would be involved in a witch hunt. >> reporter: barr, 68,'s wife is a librarian and they have three daughters. he was in a program to reduce
violent crime and the save, and loan crisis and oversaw the investigation into the doomed flight, pan am 103. barr left government and worked as a corporate lawyer for years before president trump nominated him as attorney general. >> bill barr, one of the most respected -- >> reporter: like trump, barr is tough on immigration and supports executive power and the power of presidential pardons. before the official nomination, trump asked barr about his relationship with bob mueller. >> you know bob mueller. how well do you know bob mueller? i told him how well i knew bob mueller and the barrs and muellers were good friends and would be good friends when this is all over and so forth. >> reporter: back in june before his nomination. barr wrote this unsolicited memo to the justice department. in it he appears to criticize part of mueller's probe, calling it fatally misconceived. it was enough to leave many to
wonder how he'd handle the final report. randi kaye, cnn, palm beach, florida. the news continues and we turn it over to don lemon in cnn tonight. >> this is a special edition of cnn tonight. i'm don lemon. breaking news, the attorney general, william barr publicly releases his four page letter summarizing the principle conclusion of bob mueller's report. the news is huge. mueller did not find donald trump's campaign or his associates conspired with russia. he also did not exonerate the president of obstruction. there is a whole lot to dig into. dig into the attorney general's letter here. let's take a look at exactly what he writes about collusion. here's a quote. the special counsel's investigation did not find that the trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or