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free starting april 8th. boop! you're live in the cnn "newsroom." i'm ana cabrera in new york. thank you for being with us. this weekend what's happening on the u.s. southern border is way beyond inconvenient. it's way beyond problematic. customs officials on the border now say they have reached a breaking point. migrant processing centers in texas are literally overflowing with people. custom officials today are reporting that these migrant processing centers are well over 100% capacity. el paso, they can't handle any more people and look at the
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center, they're in mcallen, texas, 358% over capacity. border control officials are bracing for a mass release of migrants from the hugely overcrowded processing center there, possibly thousands of people in the coming days will move on to other destinations from there. i spoke to brownsville city manager just a short time ago. >> ultimately our focus is we need to do what the city is able to do through our partners, through our nonprofits to provide support and to provide a positive experience on the humanitarian side because these are people that we are seeking some type of relief in our country, our role however is given them a positive experience and helping them transition. >> cnn's martin savage is in brownsville, texas, right now. that city official i spoke to says his job is to help people transition, but they're about to deal with thousands of people all at once when they're used to helping just 50 people a day. i know you just spoke to the mayor, what is he saying?
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>> reporter: they're saying that right now they can cope, however, if they get the thousands that have been talked about here, this system is really going to be strained and what has been a problem for the federal government is now more and more becoming a problem for local governments like brownsville, texas, here along the border. we're at the good neighbor settlement. this is normally a faith based organization that would be handling the homeless and the impoverished here in brownsville. instead it's now handling the many, many migrants that have been coming across the border or that are being released en masse by the federal government because they report a massive overcrowding in their facility. they're brought here, the reason we're not inside is the facility ask that we not show their faces. these people have gone through enough. the people are dropped off here literally on the curb and many cases they're coming either by big bus or they're coming by van and they go inside, they're they get a meal and shower and they're they begin the process of figuring out what happens next. here's the mayor tony martinez telling us. >> so far we have been able to
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handle anything that's come our way and i think we can so long as we have, you know, adequate notice to know what's coming. right now they're bringing them here. we're feeding them, sheltering them, clothing them whatever they need at the time, any health issues that they shouldn't have when they get here but if they do and we have, you know -- we have asked some of our local doctors and friends in the medical profession to come give us an assistance and that's what we're doing. >> reporter: here's the big picture here, ana, and that is this is taxing financially on this community. it's not a rich community to begin with. if they do get the thousands showing up here, what they hope is they're not staying here. this is a wait point. they call family in the states, they make bus or airplane reservations and they move on. what they do not want is thousands of people to remain in the community because that could cause chaos, ana.
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>> okay. martin, thank you. joining us now former democratic illinois congressman and longtime advocate for immigration reform louis gutierrez and also with us raphael romo. thank you both for being here and spending time with us tonight. congressman here was the tweet from the president today. it would be so easy to fix our weak and very stupid democrat inspired immigration law in less than one hour. the dems don't care about the crime, they don't want any victory for trump and the republicans, even if good for usa. we also got this statement from customs and border control. dhs is committed to addressing this humanitarian need but the current situation is unsustainable for border patrol operations. this status quo is not an option. the legal framework must be addressed. the only remedy to this crisis is congressional action. congressman, here's my question,
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these statements are obviously very similar both are saying congress do something, does this read to you as a legitimate plea for help or the plisization of border patrol? >> i think it's much of the same, donald trump wants to build a wall, the fact that he wants to seal the border shouldn't surprise us. he began his campaign coming down those escalators talking about mexicans are murderers and rapists and just terrible people, hurting our nation. so that's the way he began his campaign so it shouldn't surprise us today and he blames mexico and yet mexicans get immediately deported one caught at the border even children get immediately deported back to mexico. these are people asylum seekers, so it's a very, very, very different situation and america has laws on the books but they've tried to restrain and restrain and not follow the law. they've tried to cut the passage of asylum seekers seeking asylum and instead of processing them as the law requires, they've
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held them and now they've gotten to the crisis point. and second, let's remember, until we fix the lack of -- how would i say -- of humanity, of law and order and justice and fairness, the sense that you can live without being murdered without the drug cartels taking away your children and enslaving your daughters, then they will continue to flee and come to our borders. so why don't we address the problem where we really need to address it which is in guatemala, which is in el salvador, right? >> okay. let me talk about what the president is planning to do in those countries because we learned today, according to the state department, the u.s. plans to cut off aid to el salvador, guatemala and honduras, countries where many of these migrants are from. listen. >> we were paying them tremendous amounts of money and
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we're not paying them any more because they haven't done a thing for us. they set up these caravans, in many cases they put their worst people in the caravan. they're not going to put their best in. they get rid of their problems. >> raphael, there are a couple ways this could be read. on one hand, a lack of aid could make the situation more desperate, encourage more people to flee their countries and try to come to the u.s. on the other hand, one could argue there's more -- these governments can be doing to improve the situation, to prevent migration to the u.s. based on your reporting on the ground there, what do you think is the most likely outcome of cutting off aid? >> it's a good point. i talked to city officials in both countries and they tell me that enforcing immigration law is just not their priority. they're very focused on fighting criminal gangs, number one. they're focused on fighting drug cartels and the reality is they don't have the resources to enforce immigration laws and so
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they say the aid that the u.s. sends us is to -- is used to equip our security forces and so if that money isn't there, the criminality situation in those countries, el salvador, guatemala and honduras is going to get much worse which is going to mean that more people are going to feel the need to leave central america and is going to have the totally opposite effect that president trump is intending, which is to keep people in their countries. i've talked to parents that tell me, i would rather send my child on this very risky trip by land to the united states than keep him here and have him either recruited by a gang or killed by them so that's the option that they're looking at and that's why people are leaving central america, ana. >> congressman, i understand you clearly disagree with the president on immigration, but this is an issue that he believes works for him politically and given the reality now we're seeing on the ground at the border with the
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surge in migrants crossing the borders, shelters above capacity, doesn't that bolster his position? >> here's what he does, ana, so let's look at central america. nobody's fleeing here from belize or panama or from costa rica. there's three countries they're coming from, honduras, el salvador and they're not really coming from mexico. that's really not the issue, yet he keeps blaming the mexican government. look -- >> because they're coming through mexico. >> because they're coming through mexico. we are the richest, most powerful nation in the world and we should also be the nation with the biggest heart and a nation that has a great tradition of receiving refugees. we should intervene economically in those central american countries, give them hope where there is hopelessness and give them jobs where there is joblessness and that way they can stay in the country that
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they love and that they want to prosper in instead of blaming them -- >> i hear what you're saying, but -- >> ana, this is the hemispheric problem of the america. let's act like americans. >> sure. i appreciate that, i just wonder, though, given what's happening at the border right now, it's -- does that need to be addressed? does it need -- does something need to be done in order to shore up what is becoming a humanitarian crisis when you look at what officials are dealing with? >> yes. >> there aren't enough of these structures to allow the people who are coming across the border to be in the u.s. and be safe when they cross the border. >> yes. here's what i think, i think that number one i hope that my party, the democratic party, stands up for its principles, right? i would say to the mayor of my own city, rahm emanuel, instead of hitting yourself on the chest
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every day about jussie smollett, invite them to come to chicago, l.a., invite them to come. new york. there should be welcoming centers all across america for these refugees, for these asylum seekers to find a home in america. that's what i believe people should be doing right now and we should be organizing and the democratic party should stand for the principles upon which this nation was created, a nation that said give me your poor, right? give me your huddled masses. if these are not poor, huddled masses fleeing persecution then we've never seen them. this is not unprecedented. look how we treated cuban refugees and asylum seekers in the '80s by the tens of thousands they came in boats. we brought them in, they're here, they're now part of the fabric of this nation. let's remember that there is really no difference, right, for
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asylum seekers whether they're life is at stake or they're being persecuted because of their politics. they should be accepted in the united states if they have a claim because that is the law of our nation. >> right, it is the law they can seek asylum all though we do know based on government statistics 90% of the people who seek asylum don't actually get granted asylum. now, raphael, president trump is planning to do the exact opposite of what the congressman is recommending, he's threatening to shut down the southern border entirely next week and according to the wilson center that's going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars each day in lost revenue from trade. listen to what the president said. >> with a deficit like we have with mexico and have had for many years closing the border will be a profit making operation. >> raphael, do you know what he's talking about? >> yeah. what the president says is true, ana, but it's misleading. there's more than $600 billion a dollar a year between u.s. and
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mexico and the deficit -- i was taking a look at the numbers -- it's something like a little over $60 billion, so it is true, but you also have to consider the dynamics of trade between mexico and the united states. a lot of cars that americans are driving right now are assembled in mexico with u.s. parts, so if you close the border, what's going to happen to the car industry in the united states and can you imagine the hike in prices that that can create? let's talk about fruits and vegetables. what would happen to the prices of, say, avocados, berries, limes that are imported from mexico and that we in the united states take for granted? can you imagine going to the supermarket and having to pay three times as much for these products. and finally, let's also talk about people, according to the u.s. state department, there's about 1.5 million americans living in mexico right now.
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sometimes we forget about that part of the equation. are we just going to be able to shut down the border as if this was some sort of banana republic? there's one other country that is shutting down their borders right now on this side of the world, ana. you can guess what that country is. it's venezuela. are we going to follow in the steps of venezuela? is that what we as the united states are going to do? i just don't see the sense in the economics when it comes to people, it just doesn't make sense. >> you talk about the people coming across the border including children who are coming across the children to school day in and day out. >> ana, 5 million american citizens depend on their job when they wake up every morning because of trade with mexico. you shut down that border, 5 million americans lose their jobs. we are interconnected, ana, as raphael said, there's no longer american car or a mexican car,
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there's just cars that are built all over the world and yes, things do get more expensive. so remember, the harm that will be caused to americans, millions -- 5 million americans would lose their job if you close down that border. president trump doesn't think, right, of the consequences. he simply thinks about how can i get people to hate someone, how can i get people to dis pies someone, how can i get people to blame someone so i can rile up my political base instead of thinking of the incredible harm to the human being seeking asylum, number one, which is my first concern -- >> congressman, what you're saying though is going to fuel the arguments that the president is arguing that democrats want open borders, that they don't want any kind of border security, they want anybody to come and go from this country? that's what he argues and what
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you're saying gives him fuel for that argument. >> ana, ana, ana, from the very first proposal that i made with senator mccann and senator kennedy and jeff flake in 2004, we had 700 pages. you can go back and look at t. the first 400 pages was enforcement, enforcement and enforcement. we believe in enforcement. we also believe that there are laws on the books that say that asylum seekers get to seek asylum in the united states of america. ana, let's go to central america with a plan. we did it after world war ii and rebuilt, rebuilt euro. why is it that there was always money for the contras? why was there money when there was civil war in el salvador? why was there money when there was unrest in guatemala? why did we spend hundreds of millions of dollars for bullets and to arm people and to cause destruction in those nations? why don't we invest in jobs and
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in humanity in those countries? because we certainly spent hundreds of millions of dollars in the cold war so they could kill each other. >> former congressman louis gutierrez and raphael romo, thank you both for being with us. as the border battle grows, presidential candidate beto o'rourke is putting immigration at the heart of his campaign. we'll go live to texas on his big rollout today. and new tonight, two 2020 candidates calling on joe biden to answer two allegations he inappropriately kissed a nevada politician in 2014. how biden, who, by the way, isn't even a candidate yet, is responding? your live in the cnn "newsroom." with an extra-large applicator and full-coverage formula. it shapes, covers, and contours. so much more than concealer. in 25 shades. new infallible full wear concealer they seem to be the very foundation of your typical bank. capital one is anything but typical.
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candidate beto o'rourke a short time ago in houston. it's one of three stops for the former congressman today in his 2020 bid for the white house and he's gaining traction or at least trying to, at least. you can see undeclared candidate joe biden leading the pack in the national polls, but there is news on the biden front as well this evening and we'll get to that in just a moment. first to leyla santiago. his third of the day in the state capital, immigration a crucial part of o'rourke's rollout, apparently? >> reporter: right. he started this three stop campaign 2020 launch in texas in el paso, in the shadow of the southern border. his hometown, his turf there, so obviously immigration playing a key role. that's something he's talked about for years and now a very big part of the issues that he has pushing as a presidential candidate. now he's back in texas after
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about two weeks ago, he put out a video on social media announcing that he wanted to become the next u.s. president. he went to those key early voting states, iowa, new hampshire, south carolina and he took some time to listen to voters and let voters know where he stood on some of the issues saying that that would mold sort of his future policies. now, he's talking about those things, health care, education, criminal justice reform and, of course, to your point, ana, immigration. >> and if we truly believe that we are a country of migrants and asylum seekers and refugees and they're the very premise of our strength, of our success, and yes, our security, then let us free every single dreamer from any fear of deportation, let's bring millions more out of the shadows and on to a path to contribute to their maximum
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potential to the success of this country. let's not only -- let's not only follow this country's asylum laws, but let's make sure that we never take another child from another mother at their most desperate and vulnerable moment. >> reporter: and he's saying this just a day after he visited that international bridge now at the center of headlines between mexico and el paso where hundreds of families -- hundreds of migrants, families, children are now being held under that bridge. he certainly talked about that in el paso, not really at that point directly addressing the president's threat to shut down the border, but he has one more stop here in austin. we'll see what he has to say. if it's similar or if he adds to the talking points he's hit thus far. he'll head to d.c., iowa as well as new york after he wraps up
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here in texas, ana. >> okay. leyla santiago, we know you'll keep us posted. thanks. now to a controversy surrounding joe biden as he weighs his own presidential bid. a woman he was campaigning for in nevada five years ago lucy flores, you see her there on the right, wrote a magazine essay that biden was out of line in kissing her on the back of her head while off stage for an event that she was at. now, this photo from the same event shows biden and flores along with actress ava lon gorra, you can see them before the alleged encounter. this is what some of the democratic hopefuls are saying about this. >> i read the op-ed last night, i believe, lucy flores and joe biden needs to give an answer. >> i believe lucy flores. i believe that the vice
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president put a statement out today. he's got to decide whether he's going to run or not and then the american people if he does will decide whether they support him or not. >> now today the biden camp put out this statement and i quote, people know joe biden and they know his character, his integrity and his values. they know him to be someone who is empathetic caring and who understands their problems and concerns, that's how he reacts to people and it's how people react to him. fact some of the people who know him best, people who have worked for him throughout his career are speaking up to say that he has always been a champion for women in his office. cnn nia-malika henderson joins me now. what's your reaction especially given biden's not technically in the race? >> reporter: he's not in the race as you said but he's certainly leading all of the polls that you see from democrats essentially saying
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they feel like biden would be a strong choice to run against donald trump. this lucy flores op-ed or letter in some ways it wasn't surprising. this is something that people have kind of talked about joe biden, you see some of the interaction that's he has with women when the swearing in ceremonies, for instance, happened. so it wasn't surprising that something like this would get an airing and also you've got the candidates now essentially saying they want to hear from vice president joe biden. we haven't heard from vice president joe biden. there was a statement yesterday where they said that he essentially couldn't remember anything like this and he certainly didn't remember it this way and then the other statement they put out today again not from vice president joe biden, we'll wait to hear from the other candidates. do they believe lucy flores? it is interesting, though, you have in vice president joe biden someone who has been thinking about running for president, his aids say he's 95% of the way there but they must have known that in this era, the me too era, when the scrutiny of men is
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much more public and open than it has been in years past, they should have probably known that this was going to get an airing. we'll see where the campaign -- it's not a campaign, where the possible campaign, where the possible candidate vice president joe biden goes with this. >> we know he's already been addressing anita hill and some of the other issues that could potentially be soft spots for him. you're in houston so let's talk about why you're there. i mentioned beto o'rourke spoke a little while ago ahead of his final stop in austin where we saw leyla. what kind of symbolism is he trying to establish, do you think? >> reporter: well, the el paso contrast with donald trump in el paso, it's a town that beto o'rourke says is made vibrant by immigrants. a little bit of his bio obviously there in connection to
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that town here. this is much more of an african-american area. we're in on the campus of texas southern university. his argument is always the same. it's essentially that he feels like he would have a broad appeal to not only the obama coalition but also some trump voters. he uses a campaign that he ran for senate where he came within three or so points of beating ted cruz. he says that's essentially what he can do for the country more broadly, of course. he's saying that he could win the presidency and not come up just shy. we hear broad themes today on health care and immigration on education on criminal justice. he's in some ways a hype man for democratic party values, a lot of the folks i spoke to in this crowd are looking for more policy. they're very familiar with beto o'rourke. some of them were wearing beto o'rourke for senate t-shirts because they were galvanized by his senate campaign. they're looking for beto o'rourke 2.0. what actually is he saying he could do and why he is the
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person who could do it in terms of policy? this was the official kickoff. they're waiting to hear more from him, they're waiting to hear more from other candidates as well. he got a decent crowd, about 2,000 or so people out here and he's on to austin at this point. this is his home state. feels like he could win this not only in the primaries, a lot of delegates up for grabs but his argument is also that he could beat donald trump in this state and across the country. >> which would be a game changer, obviously, when it comes to the electoral map. >> reporter: yeah, it would be. >> i want to turn and get one more topic in here real fast, the republican party versus alexandria ocasio-cortez, the freshman democrat in congress from new york. take a look at the crowd when donald trump jr. appeared at a campaign style rally for his dad earlier this week. >> aoc sucks! aoc sucks! >> they are chanting her initials, you heard the word
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that followed and today alexandria ocasio-cortez responded by saying, this is a pattern among those on the right including the president and she added that the president doesn't have another woman, hillary clinton or whoever else to vilify any more, nia-malika henderson, why is she such a magnet for conservatives? >> reporter: she's incredibly charismatic. she's in some ways a symbol of where the country is going in terms of demographic. she's a young latino woman who upset a democrat in new york and she's incredibly eloquent in terms of talking about democratic party values. i think she's probably right. this idea that she's the new boogie woman, the old boogie woman was hillary clinton. we remember those chants of lock her up, lock her up. they've moved on from that and found a new boogie woman in aoc. listen, she's somebody that's got a real following on the left and probably has a real future
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in the party even as the people in the democratic party who are a little nervous about the kind of platform she has but i expect you'll hear more of that at those trump rallies. >> nia-malika henderson, thank you. we're learning new information about the murder of a university of south carolina student killed after entering what she thought was an uber. a suspect now in custody. we'll have the details just ahead. the rolling stones postponing their north american tour over the health of mick jagger. what we're hearing tonight. many have strength... few have raw power and many possess beauty but only a few can touch our souls. there are many suvs, but there's only one legend. the 2019 jeep grand cherokee the most awarded suv ever.
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just in to cnn, the most heartbreaking news for the
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family of a missing college student in south carolina. the body of a young woman found by hunters on friday has been positively identified as samantha josephson. 21 years old, a student at the university of south carolina in columbia. she was last seen getting into a car near the college campus. her fellow students are in shock today. >> she was just a very bubbly person. she was very happy and she was excited because she was going to law school in the fall, but she was just a very happy bubbly person. very sad and it's very scary because it can happen to anyone and you definitely need to make sure you stay with your friends. >> police in south carolina do have a suspect in custody. his car matched the one samantha josephson was seen in. he's been arrested and charged with murder and kidnapping. get this, police believe the victim mistakenly got into the wrong car thinking it was her uber ride. overseas tonight israel defense forces say five rockets
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have been launched from gaza. earlier the palestinian ministry of health reported three teens were shot and killed by israeli forces. this reportedly happened during the mass demonstrations on the border marking the first anniversary of the campaign. michael holmes spent the day on the israeli/gaza border in the midst of those protests. >> reporter: hamas had called for today's protest to be peaceful for the first time deploying hundreds of marshals to keep protesters back from the border fence and possible death. the men from hamas crowd control trying to keep protesters back. they've had some success but the longer it goes on,ed the harder it's going to be. in the end it didn't work, hundreds broke through, tires were set ablaze and rocks thrown towards israeli troops on the other side. tear gas, lots of it came from the israeli side and there was
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some live fire as well. israel says it only uses such measures when an eminent threat is perceived. a year of weekly protests like this has seen nearly 270 palestinians killed and thousands wounded as they protest the loss of palestinian homes in the arab israeli war of the 1940s. >> translator: we're here to get our land back, our homes on participating to get it back. >> reporter: these protesters are a test for hamas turned out a crowd big enough to show support for the cause but at the same time exercise enough control over that crowd to minimize violence and casualties. hamas also looking for israeli restraint and so how this day ended would likely impact the success of egyptian mediated talks between hamas and israel, too high a death toll from israeli fire and hamas said it would retaliate.
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and it appeared to work at least to a degree. casualty numbers far less than in previous demonstrations even though at the end of the day palestinian medical authority said there had been hundreds of injuries, many from bullets but mostly from tear gas. here a boy overcome by gas, he quickly recovered. those truce talks now continue. hamas wanting israel to ease restrictions on gaza in a number of areas, israel wanting quiet from the gaza strip, an end to rocket fire into israel and protests like these along the border. the days ahead will determine which direction this ongoing conflict goes. coming up, george clooney getting some major a. list support tonight as he pushes for an international boycott on the controversial sultan of brunei. as we go to break, be sure to tune in tomorrow night.
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new tonight, the rolling stones are putting their upcoming north american tour on hold. a statement from the band says the leader singer needs medical treatment and can't tour doctors orders. no word on what's ailing the 75-year-old. jagger apologized to his fans on twitter saying i'm so sorry to all our fans in america and canada with tickets. i really hate letting you down like this. i'm devastated for having to postpone the tour but i'll be working very hard to be back on stage as soon as i can. huge apologies to everyone. we're getting reaction from jagger's band mates. a big disappointment for everyone but things need to be taken care of and we will see you soon, mick. we're always there for you.
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we'll miss you over the next few weeks but we're looking forward to seeing you all again very soon. here's to mick. also new tonight, elton john is throwing his support behind george clooney and now both men are urging people to boycott all luxury hotels owned by the controversial sultan of brunei. that boycott is in response to the nation passing sharia law allowing gay people to be stoned to death and in a statement elton john says this, discrimination on the basis of sexuality is plain wrong and has no place in any society. that's why i conmend my friend for taking a stand and calling out the antigay discrimination and bigotry now being enshrined in law, a place where gay people are brutalized or worse. i believe that love is love and being able to love as we choose is a basic human right wherever we go, my husband david and i deserve to be treated with dignity and respect as do each and everyone one of the millions
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of lgbtq people around the world. cnn's jean casarez picks up our coverage. >> the new penal code for brunei was introduced in 2014 but it is this wednesday that one of the criminal laws goes into effect. it's a law that calls for the death penalty and it is that any one who engages in any type of homosexual activity and/or separate and distinct adultery will face the death penalty stoned to death. george clooney has spoken out and he says in an op-ed that there may be nothing that can be done at all in regard to what brunei is doing, but people around the world need to boycott the hotels that are owned by the sultan of brunei, his investment company and that includes in the united states the beverly hills hotel and hotel bell air. choony says on this particular
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april 3rd the nation of brunei will begin stoning and whipping to death any of its citizens that are proved to be gay. let that sink in. in the onslaught of news where we see the world backsliding into athor tafrionism this stands alone. the sultan of brunei gave a response to the criminal law in general saying, the sharia law apart from criminalizing act that's against the teachings of islam it also aims to educate, respect and protect the legitimate right of all individuals, society or nationality of any face and race. now the u.s. state department has said that they strongly oppose human rights violations and abuses against lgbt i people in brunei. they also believe that it could violate some international human rights obligations. ana? >> jean casarez, thanks for that
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report. a federal judge says no to president trump and his action that would have allowed drilling for oil in arctic waters off alaska. the president through out a ban almost two years ago but now a u.s. district court judge has ruled that the executive order is, quote, unlawful and invalid. so that means a drilling ban in much of the ocean off alaska will remain in effect. conservationists call this a victory. is it a germ concern. jeanne moos on the pope dodging people trying to kiss his ring. r and this machine are integrated. & she can talk to him, & yes... atta, boy. some people assign genders to machines. and you can be sure you won't have any problems. except for the daily theft of your danish. not cool!
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. for catholics, kissing the pope's ring is a sign of respect, but pope francis is having none of it. here's jeanne moos. >> reporter: when it comes to kissing the pope's ring, he doesn't seem to like the ring of it. watch pope francis yank his hand away time after time after catholics lined up at a shrine in italy to pay their respects. one guy looked like he ended up kissing his own hand. it was as if his devoted fans had cooties. >> it looks like a weird video game where you have to try and kiss the pope. but it's not as if the pope tells everyone to kiss off when they go for his ring. he usually goes along with it, most memorably when this circus performer did it last year. ring kissing does tend to slow down the line. this man puckered up and then
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got hustled away. on the day in question, pope francis allowed folks to dive bomb him for ten minutes before he started playing hard to get. supporters say it's the pope being humble, preferring to wash people's feet rather than have them kiss his ring. most hand kisses don't involve a ring, be it the queen or melania trump or kellyanne conway. one guy who doesn't refuse it is don core leone, and you better not refuse him. someone tweeted that pope francis looks like he's batting off flies. still, he did stop for hugs, a papal treat. >> it's also good if you add an ice cream cone. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. a vatican spokesman tells reporters fear of germs is why the pope was dodging kisses. quote, he wants to avoid the risk of contagion for the
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