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engage them from that level, and if you genuinely are interested and you're someone who believes you're interesting, then great things will happen, but this takes training, this takes practice and takes having people in your corner to help you, so if you do get rejected, and let me just make this point. rejection, our brain rejects the same we interpret it is pain. >> oh, no. come on, harlan. >> he was making some good points there. i know he had you on the edge of your seat and we decided to mix things up a little bit. not what you expected today but i bet you feet better for t.harlan cohen, wherever you are, thank you very much. so much more straight ahead in the "newsroom" and it all starts right now. all right. hello again, everyone, and thanks for joining me this sunday. i'm fredericka whitfield. we begin with president trump directing the u.s. state department to cut off aid to three central american countries, el salvador, guatemala, honduras.
around $1.3 billion was allocated to the region. mainly those three countries between last year and this year according to a recent study. president trump says those countries set up migrant care advance for entry into america, his words. meantime, president trump is also threatening to shut down parts or all of the border as soon as this week and announcing he'll travel to the u.s.-mexico border in california this friday. meanwhile, his acting chief of staff nick mulvaney telling cnn who he says is to blame. >> look, there's a lot of good ways to help solve this problem. congress could do it, but they are not going to. mexico could help us do it. they need to do a little bit more. honduras could do more and nicaragua could do more and el salvador could do more, and if we're giving these countries hundreds of millions of dollars we would like them to do more. that i would respectfully submit to you, jake, is not an unreasonable position. we could prevent a lot of what's happening on the southern border
which preventing people from moving into mexico in the first place. >> border officials say they are at a breaking point. hundreds of migrants are being released from processing centers in south texas. several border facilities are well past capacity, and resources are strained. let's go first to brownsville, texas where a border protection facility there is well over capacity according to officials so cnn's martin savidge is at a bus station there so give us an idea of how this works and what you're seeing. >> sure. fredericka, what's pretty clear right now what is the crisis for the federal government as far as handling migrants now is becoming more and more of a real problem for border towns like brownsville here along the whole texas border. because what is happening is that the federal authorities are now release the migrants, and they are bringing them to places like this, the bus station in brownsville. dropping them off in groups of maybe 40 to 50 and handing them over to the local authorities, and essentially leaving it on
the doorstep of the local governments to figure out what to do next. they have forked it out fairly well in brownsville. when the buses arrive they come in and they are processed. they have brownsville city officials here as well as cameron county officials that are here. the goal is first to make sure that they have their proper documentation, in other words that they were processed by the federal government, and then the next step is to figure out how are they going to get from brownsville to wherever they are going to go in the united states? many of these families need to communicate the loved ones that are here already, so to do that they give them cell phones and then the next step of the process is who is going to pay for the bus ticket and who is going to pay for the airline ticket once that is established and the money has been transferred here, wired or otherwise and then they begin to move them off to the buses or they move them off to the airport? but the thing is, fredericka, it's working well for now but i asked the mayor how long can they hold it up and here's what he said. >> so far we have been able to
handle anything that's come our way and i think we can so long as we have adequate notice to know what's coming. >> reporter: that's the problem. they haven't had adequate notice. they are not sure in the days to come how heavy a number of people they are going to see. they claim they can handle at least 1,000 a day. if it goes beyond that it will be serious problems in brownsville. fredericka. >> wow, keep us posted. martin safe img, thanks so much. i assume president trump will head back to washington from his mar-a-lago resort after announcing another border visit and his plan to cut aid to three central american countries. let's check in with sara westwood. what can you tell us about his ideas this week? >> reporter: well, fred, president trump has been clearly fixated on the situation down on the border as he spent the weekend here in west palm beach. he's been tweeting about the situation repeatedly. president trump started on
friday threatening to close down the southern border. not the first time he's threatened to close all or part of the border but it's the first time he's attached a deadline to it. he says he'll do it as soon as this week if he doesn't get more cooperation from mexico to stem the flow of undocumented migrants coming into the u.s. white house officials, including white house acting chief of staff nick mulvaney as you just heard, pointing the finger at the central american companies that will soon be looting funding as a result of state department's decision to cut off aid to those countries because they are not doing enough to stop their citizens from coming up two mexico and coming into the u.s. mulvaney pushing back on evidence that suggests that aid actually limits the number of people coming into the u.s. by arguing the proof it's ineffective is in the increased number of migrants coming into the u.s. take a listen. >> it's a humanitarian crisis. it's security crisis. i think at least now people are starting to realize we were not
exaggerating a couple of months ago when we had this nationwide debate about the watch. i hear what you're saying that people say it's working but proof is in the numbers. it's not working well enough to help us solve our border crisis and that's what the president is focused on. >> reporter: now all of this comes as customs and border protection is saying they are reaching that breaking point, that their facilities just weren't designed to handle the increased number of families, of unaccompanied children that are coming across the southern border, many of them seeking asylum. the cbp says they are on track to apprehend more people at the border than any month since 2008 and what we're seeing from this administration which could be a much more dramatic response than what we're seeing. fred. >> reporter: sara westwood, thanks so much. with me is raul raize, an immigration analyst, attorney and cnn opinion writer. raul, good to see you. so let me begin, you know, by getting your reaction to the president cutting off aid, you know, to the three central american countries. >> well, the president's threat
to cut off aid to these three countries guatemala, el salvador and honduras is extremely problematic, both in legal and practical ways. legally it's problematic because these are funds that congress has already appropriated for these nations. now, going forward maybe the president can ask the congress to withhold that money, but in terms of the money that's already allocated for this fiscal year, the president cannot unilaterally say that these countries will not receive those monies. practically speak this, poll sgi he were to withhold aid to these nations it would be a disaster, and the reason is because -- is in the type of programs that this money -- that these funds go to. they go to help strengthen the civil societies in these nations. they go to help root out police and government corruption. they go to fight trafficking. the money going to fight gang, the proliferation of gangs in these countries and the money also goes to bolster the private sector in these countries. withdrawing all of that money will lead to further unrest,
further threats of violence and pretty much every expert believes what it will lead to overall an increase of people fleeing the country and subsequently an increase in unauthorized arrivals at our southern border. >> you see it having an opposite effect. it might encourage more people to want to flee because conditions will deteriorate as a result of, you know u.s. aid money being withheld. >> absolutely. democrats and republicans, depending on your political affiliation, people tend to have a view of this crisis in central america. republicans and people on the right saying these are people who are leaving for economic reasons and we can't let everybody in and democrats tend to focus and frame the issue as a humanitarian cries focusing on the asylum seekers. those are two different approaches, but wherever are you in terms of your view of the situation in those nations, both sides, the one thing that will work to satisfy both sides that we have to address the root
causes of instability in the northern triangle countries. withdrawing the funds will not do that, and -- and on top of that withdrawing those funds will be a gift to smugglers and trafficicers because now it will be harder to make the trek so there will be more illegal cross, and we'll see more care advance and word is already out that the u.s. might crack down or clamp down at the border and that lets smugglers put the words out to the anybody who might be thinking of leaving that they should come now, and as the weather gets warmer it gets more and more dangerous. that's one reason why we're seeing this seasonal increase because the spring is usually historically when there is more traffic north wards, legal and illegal, because of the weather conditions. >> a couple of other immigration-related matters. the president, you know, says that he'll be making a decision about actually closing the border this week and at the same time he -- he plans to make a visit to, you know, a border
city in california on friday. if the border is closed, and we're talking about $1.6 billion in trade a day, particularly between mexico and the u.s., what would be the economic impact and why do you believe the president feels that it would be worth it? >> the economic impact on the united states alone would be catastrophic. you know, if he's -- i'm not sure exactly what he means when he says we're going somehow close the whole border, but if he's talking about close all the legal ports of entries, that's where trucks come through and where commerce goes back and forth and where our legal immigrants and many tourists come through. for example, were he to close the border, one segment of the economy that would very quickly feel an impact is the u.s. auto industry which has been lately a base of trump support in the rust best because the u.s. auto industry depends on many parts that are manufactured in mexico and driven up to the midwest in
trucks, but the thing is here again we see legal issues. if the president announced that the border is closed or makes a declaration that our border with mexico is closed, that still does not terminate the legal right of asylum that potential migrants have and that's under u.s. law and international law and treatise like the u.n. commission on refugees. he cannot unilaterally take this action. it would hurt united states and just to push back for a minute on what mr. mulvaney was saying earlier in terms of mexico not doing enough to stem the flow of these migrants. mexico deported more people back to central america in the last five years than the united states did. mexico is allowing the trump administration's metering program to stay in place at the border. mexico is also issuing visas to many of these migrants from central america so they won't continue on to the u.s. so mexico has done a lot and the more that the president aggravates mexico or the mexican government he rimpingsb risks them not cooperating with the
humanitarian government he makes this potentially economic crisis even worse. >> we'll leave it there for now. thanks so much for being with us. >> thanks, fredericka. >> former vice president joe biden hasn't even officially enter the the race, but he's already being forced to dead fend himself against allegations of inappropriate behavior with women. plus, why facebook's mark zuckerberg is calling for new internet rules. what that oversight might look like and the impact on free speech. there are healthy snacks, there are tasty snacks, and then there are kind bars. made with ingredients you know and love. like whole nuts, real fruit and a drizzle of dark chocolate. do your tastebuds and your body a favour. do the kind thing.
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morning show told cnn's jake tapper this. >> i felt powerless. i felt like i couldn't move. i didn't even know how to process it, and -- and my bigger point that i've been making is that in these power dynamic situations and -- and women are subjected to this in -- in the political setting but in work settings all the time that you just kind of process it and then you move on because you have a job to do. the reason why we're having these conversations about vice president joe biden is because he's considering running for president and frankly the reason why i felt so compelled to finally say something is because over the years as this behavior was documented as it was frankly dismissed by the media and not taken seriously that. conversation was not coming up in the discussions about whether or not he would -- he would in a complete analysis of his history, of his record as we go through the vetting process for all of these candidates, that
important aspect was being left out. >> in my many years on the campaign trail in my public life, hi countless handshakes and hugs and expressions of affection and support and comfort and not once never did i believe i acted inappropriately. if it is suggested that i did so, i will listen respectfully, but it was never my intension. with me now cnn political commentators hilary rosen and scott jennings and a 2016 delegate for bernie sanders. good to see all of you. hillary you, first. how big of a problem potentially is this for biden? >> look, i know lucy flores well and i think she's credible and thoughtful and i think what she said is -- was both respectful and real, and this is an issue for many women and many men. that's why we've had this moment over these last two years, but i
have to say i really appreciated the way joe biden responded to it, not with the statement you just read but what he actually said on friday which is that he didn't remember it but he absolutely applauded and respected her right to speak out. he didn't try and silence her. he didn't do what a lot of men have done over the last two years which is try and demean her and undermine her and trash her, and i think that the challenge here for all of us is to look at people's real record and to see whether, you know, consciousness has been raised to see what intent is and make a judgment about it, and i think that's what people will do about joe biden. >> so nomiki, you are also good friends with lucy flores. when you talk about intention what do you suppose besides sharing her story, flores -- what do you think she is asking for? is this like, you know, firing a warning shot and letting voters
know this is what happened hand this is how it made me feeling, or is it also demanding or asking, you know, biden to, you know, admit to something, pledge that he'll never do it again? mean, what's the objective here in your view? >> well, the only thing that i can say that i know lucy has come forward and said is that she thinks he should apologize. his statement, you know, sure, he wrote it very though thefully and had advisers working him through it. this is not a new allegation. what lucy what is able to do was use her position of frankly power to step up and say because she knew it would get attention for others to feel that they were comfortable enough to step up and say that he has done this in the past. there are hundreds of photographs and videos of former vice president joe biden doing this to other women. this isn't a new thing. she just wrote it very thoughtfully using her voice, her platform to get this out before, you know -- so that the
media would essentially ask these questions. i mean, at the end of the day i was a supporter of joe biden and wanted him to run for president in 2016, but i think that we've all evolved on this, including myself as a former supporter and realizing that this is not acceptable. it's not acceptable to touch women without their approval, without asking. it's not acceptable to grab their waists and kiss their next no matter what their sage if you don't have a relationship or friendship or their approval, and i think what lucy was able to do was to bring texture to the story and also use her platform to make shower that he's vetted, even though he's the former vice president. he is vetted just as every other candidate will be. >> yeah. scott, you know, these are different allegations. >> listen, i think it's a little dangerous to just -- fred, to just let that comment go unchallenged, and i appreciate everything else nameki said, but to say there are hundreds of instances like this i think is unfair. i think if there are other women who come forward with similar
stories, that each one of those people will be listened to thoughtfully and vice president biden will take them seriously, but i don't think we should be walking this out there. >> there's documented footage. >> what you're saying is there is video. >> there's ton of video. >> of the vice president being or he touches and leans in, you're talking about, nomeki, yeah, because there are images that have that most people are accustomed to seeing, and it's out in the open that he does touch. he may be leaning in, et cetera, but we haven't necessarily -- we don't have any pictures that correspond with the allegation that miss flores is making of, you know, kiss and -- >> he's sniffing a woman's hair right there. that's what she said he did. >> let's see that image again. can we see that image again. >> no, not that one, the other one. >> all right. i don't know if he's kissing or whispering or touching or leaning in, but what you're
trying to say -- >> you don't note context that have picture. >> he's in close quarters with a lot of people and that's on videotape and you're saying that that is equivalent to what miss flores' allegation is. >> i mean, there have been -- there have been montages of the swearing-in ceremonies where he's talked to senator's wives or children or kissed their next so i do think it lines up with this. it's on those women to step up and tell their stories and tell whether or not that's appropriate or not, and i understand, that hillary, but at the end of the day let's be real here. there's a lot of document air, and i think, that you know, giving a set of standards for a former vice president that every other american this race would probably be disqualified for is not fair. >> well, wait a minute, that brings me to, scott, president trump, and, you know, the "access hollywood" tape and in fact his own admission of inappropriately grabbing him, sexually assaulting women. that didn't stand in the way of his presidency so will this type of allegation and the images
that we're talking about stand in the way of joe biden from even joining the race? >> well, i don't know because running in a democratic primary in 2020 is a whole different ball game. i mean, i think as nomeki pointed out, we've known about this for joe biden for years, and while he was working for president obama everybody just laughed it off. now he's in his own primary trying to become president in his own right and it's a big deal, so i don't know if this will prevent him from entering the race, but do i know that the dynamics in the democratic party have changed to the point where these kinds of issues are now going have to be litigated by voters, and that's ultimately who will have to make up their mind. if you look at all the primary polling for the democratic primary right now, you see that joe biden's chief supporters tend to skew older and that bernie sanders' and some other candidates tend to skew younger, so what i'm interested to watch as an observer of this process and supporter of the republicans is whether joe biden's older support remembers going to find these sorts of attacks on him or
these sorts of claims about him to be credible enough to peel off and go with someone else or if this concern about biden tends to skew younger as the people who want new blood in the party are finding other voters, so i think there's a lot more to come on this. we've never litigated this. we've known about it but never litigate it had from an electoral perfective. >> okay. other democratic president call candidates have been asked, you know about, this latest accusation because, again, i think to underscore hillary's point, too, this accusation is very different than the imagery or what other people have been talking about in terms of him being touchy-feely, but this is what the other candidates have been saying on the campaign trail right now. >> well, i think that's a decision for the vice president to make. i'm not sure that one incident alone disqualifies anybody, but her point is absolutely right. this is an issue not just the democrats or republicans, the entire country has got to the take seriously. it's not acceptable that when a woman goes to work or is any
kind of environment that she feels anything less than comfortable and safe, and this is an issue the entire country has got to work on. >> i have no reason not to believe her, jonathan, and i think we know from campaigns and from politics that people raise issues and they have to address them and that's what he'll have to do with the voters if he gets into the race. >> well, again, i don't know aside from this one issue i haven't -- even this issue, i don't know all the details. i think that's why we have an election. that's that process. >> okay. >> certainly it's very disconcerting and i think, again, women have to be heard and we should really start by believing them. >> i believe lucy flores, and -- and joe biden needs to give an answer. >> reporter: should he not run as a result? >> that's for joe biden to decide. >> i believe lucy flores. we need to live in a nation where people can hear her truth. >> all right. hillary, you first.
what does this do for bide snen will he or won't he run? >> well, i -- i don't know. i think that there are other reasons, why you know, joe biden is probably been delaying his announcement. i think that across the board there's a lot of questions, but i think he has an established record like i said. i think uniquely for a man his age he has been willing to kind of go back and look at himself and change and, you know, consider how mistakes in the past ought to be discussed now. i don't believe in this conversation about this -- about what people call the what aboutism. i don't think it's okay for democrats to say, well, we can have a candidate that does "x" because donald trump is so much worse. i'm proud of democrats that we're having this conversation in the primary, that these things will matter. >> okay. >> but i also think that to go forward as country we need to
find, you know, ways to have the conversation and joe biden's just going to have to have that conversation whether he wants to or not if he's going to run. >> scott? >> yeah. look, i think this isn't the only thing biden will have to deal with. he's got a long investigate record in the senate. a lot of those votes in today's context don't look acceptable to the modern democratic party. he's made a lot of public statements, objection lit clarence thomas confirmation hearing has been a source of consternation for democrats, so i think that this is the kind of candidacy that can generate a lot of early support because people know him. he's been around and he was the vice president under obama so that generated a lot of early support, but once you start peeling back decades of a record and trying to apply it to today's democratic party standards it's really haired think for biden to see -- to see how it stands up frankly. i've always been suspect that the democrats would nominate someone for president in 2020 who got a delegate at their national convention for
president in 1984. it doesn't seem like their party wants to go back and biden would be going way back into the time machine. >> nomeki. there that's thoughtful. i agree with both hillary and scott. at the end of the day, vice president biden who stood for issues like legalizing gay marriage and pushing president obama to the left he still hasn't apologized to anita hill and still the person who pushed for the crime bill and still someone who is fairly conservative when it comes to economic issues and we're living in an era when you can't speak like a populist but vote like a populist and vote for policies that are good for all people. income inequality is so prominent right now and the presidential nominee is the person whose rhetoric matches their record and the policies they are pushing forward so i think it's going to be a vibrant presidential primary, something that we've needed as a party for a long time, and i just hope that it -- it brings out the vibrancy in the voters as well.
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mark zuckerberg wants more rules and regulation for the internet. the billionaire ceo of facebook who has been under scrutiny over the role his company plays in spreading misinformation wrote an op-ed this morning calling on regulators to step up and establish a rule book writing, and i'm quoting now, i believe we need a more active role for government and regulators by updating the rules for the internet. we can preserve what's best about it, the freedom for people to express themselves and for entrepreneurs to build new things while also protecting society from broader harms. a cnn business reporter joins us now. this is the most vocal and direct zuckerberg has ever been on this issue, so what's with the change of heart? >> absolutely, fred. i mean, every week, every day almost, you know, facebook makes these massive decisions when it
comes to speech and when it comes to political content on its platform, and there's very often, you know, a scandal and debate when somebody gets kicked off the platform or when a political figure is allowed on the platform, but some people are saying they are spreading hate or white nationalist rhetoric or things like that. i think facebook has gotten to the point, particularly since the 2016 election, they have been under such intense scrutiny, intense criticism from the media, from lawmakers, from human rights groups, that they are saying, well, look, you know, if you don't like our rules, we've developed a set of rules, you guys need to start writing some rules for us, and that's where i think they are really putting the ball in lawmakers' court right now. >> so what might this, you know, kind of regulation look like? who would oversee it? >> that's -- that -- that's quite a lot for, you know, folks in washington and parents around the world to figure out, but zuckerberg, yesterday, i think identified four key areas where
he thinks there are needs for some form of regulatory framework. that's around harmful content, so, for example, we saw in new zealand facebook failed to catch the live stream of the massacre there just two weeks ago, and election integrity. we all know about the various issues around the 2016 election when came to russian trolls on social media, and also around privacy and data, something that we've, you know, heard a lot about since the cambridge analytica scandal which broke last year. now, you know, this year very much is i think mark zuckerberg and facebook being proactive really saying to lawmakers, look, guys, you know, you can write laws for us and, you know, we can work within that framework. but it could also be that, you know, facebook has realize that had a lot of this stuff is inevitable. there are multiple investigations ongoing into facebook both here in the u.s. and across the atlantic and the uk and across europe, so i think they may see the writing on the
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welcome back. in a move that surprised many, even in his own party, president trump is moving to end all of obamacare. the white house is asking the courts to declare it is unconstitutional and dismanth affordable care act completely. what isn't clear is what the white house will offer as a replacement. here is what the president had to say. >> we've made it better, but it's still horrible, no good, so we're coming up with plans. we have a lawsuit right now going where phase one of the lawsuit terminates obamacare, essentially terminates obamacare. you know that that's the texas lawsuit. we think it will be upheld and we think it will do very well in the supreme court, and if the supreme court rules that obamacare is out we will have a plan that's far better than
obamacare. >> so if observing sear struck do -- obamacare is struck down it could hold out more discussions ahead of the elections. with me now is zeke emanuel, a healthcare policy adviser for president obama and one of the architects for the affordable care act. good to see you. >> nice to be here. >> i feel like this is just -- press the rewind button because we've had this kind of conversation with you before, but previous attempts, you know, to dismantle the aca failed, both in congress and at the supreme court, so does this attempt, you know, the president's real, you know, mantra here, you know, concern you anymore than previous? >> no. it's -- it's laughable. it does suggest how disconnected he is from the reality. first of all, this court case is not going to go to repeal obamacare wholeheartedly though
texas district court judge who said that, yes, without the mandate there's no tax and, therefore, the -- the entire bill is unconstitutional really way overreached. even conservative legal scholars think he's way out of line because there's a massive amount, three-quarters of the bill, has nothing to do with acsection. it has to do with cost control and quality and improving the number of primary care doctors and nurses. that's not affected by the mandate so it's sort of an absurd ruling, and then you get the congress, the last thing the republicans want to do is repeal the affordable care act. kevin mccarthy immediately, he's the minority leader in the house, the republican leader in the house immediately distances himself from this. what the news report is that nick mulvaney, the acting chief of staff driving this approach, but he doesn't have any support
among rank and file republicans because they are the runs who have to returns and they know that the public is more supportive of the affordable care act, wants more guarantees and securities that he can hear coverage like healthcare coverage is going to be there. >> nick mulvaney promised that the president will send to capitol hill some points that he wants to be in the plan and he'll leave it up to congress to work it out, you know, we've kind of been that road before. you know, enrollment, you know, for aca is down, you know, but this administration is not marketing it like, you know, an administration -- either the prior administration would happen. you hear the president say that the plan is unaffordable, deductibles are just too high. is the aca working as intended? the framework there to get to, you know, the goal that you were hoping for? >> yeah. let me just make three quick points. first of all, we've been waiting nine years for a republican
replacement. we've not gotten a republican replacement. the idea we'll get it the in two months, three months, six months ahead of the 2020 elections completely unrealistic, not going to happen. second, on enrollment, it is the case that the uninsured rate has gone up. that's all attributable to the president and his behaviors. as you mentioned, not advertising, reducing navigators, increasing the premiums because of the -- of what he's done with the cost-sharing subsidies, decreasing the open enrollment period by half. all of the increase in the uninsured rate can be traces back to the president adding work requirements to medicaid which throws people off the medicaid rolls. nothing he's done has increased access. the last thing is there is an affordability problem. there is a problem of high deductibles, and we do have to address, that and nancy pelosi's plan has gone partway to addressing, that and i think there's more to be done to keep costs down which will affect the
deductibles and the premiums. >> maybe the white house will give you a call, and can you give them some suggestions. >> yeah, right. we'll be waiting for that telephone call a long time. >> zeke emanuel, thank you so much. >> i'll be right back. biopharmaceutical researchers. pursuing life-changing cures in a country that fosters innovation here, they find breakthroughs... like a way to fight cancer by arming a patient's own t-cells... because it's not just about the next breakthrough... it's all the ones after that. you wouldn't accept from any one else. why accept it from your allergy pills? flonase relieves your worst symptoms including nasal congestion, which most pills don't. flonase helps block 6 key inflammatory substances. most pills only block one. flonase.
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>> having run for president. the answer is, i'm proud to have run for governor. i would like to have won. i believe governor brown has a hea heart. even though he believes i do not. i believe he is a good american, even though he feels i am not. i wish him well. and for once, gentlemen, i would appreciate it if you'd write what i said. for 16 years, you've had an opportunity to attack me, and i think i've given as good as i've taken. as i leave you, just think how much you're going to miss. you don't have nixon to kick around any more. because gentlemen, this is my last press conference. thank you, gentlemen, good day. >> oh, but it wasn't. >> joining us now, a cnn
presidential historian, he was a consult want on the series, tricky dick, good to see you. >> more on that, you know, kind of moment, in this episode, we see nixon suffered two devastating election losses over the span of two years, the presidential election to jfk and the california governor's race. >> he refused to give up, what you'll see tonight through interviews with him through footage from the time through lbj tapes is how he caught his way back, and how in 1968 he achieved what he couldn't in 1960, and you will see fully documented and drum tiesed, the collusion that made that in part possible. this episode lays out the story of richard nixon's campaign collusion with the south vietnamese government, which played a role in the outcome of
the '68 campaign. we'll leave it to future generations to determine whether it turned the campaign or not. >> he said it would be the last press conference. but it wasn't the last we would see him. you know, i too had a very interesting relationship with the media, right? he didn't like him, he wanted to ban the washington post from being in the pressroom. what compelled him to have this kind of disdain for the media. >> he -- look, he carried on his shoulder. he had a chip on his shoulder that he was not accepted by the american elite. in that era, the american elite included journalists, journalists went out to dinner, went drinking with politicians. there wasn't quite the adversary relationship that he helped create through the watergate scandal. he said, i'm not respected by
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