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it's about people. these people, caught by border patrol crossing illegally into the u.s. whatever their reason for risking their lives and their families, there are more of them than there are beds and shelters and security at the facilities set up to handle them. right now, overflowing it, processing centers are doing something about the log jam, they're letting thousands of people out. the immigration system is broken and the current situation on the border is unsustainable. president trump is blaming mexico throwing out his solution, he's saying close the border, mexico must use its strong immigration laws to stop the many thousands of people getting into the u.s. the next step is to close the border. something else the president is doing to punish central america countries for failing to keep people from fleeing, he's cutting aid, millions of dollars
effectively making life more difficult in those countries. the president's right hand manned is defending the decision to cut off money to these nations. >> mexico could help us do it, they need to do a little more. el salvador could do more. if we're going to give these countries hundreds of millions of dollars, we want them to do more. this is not a reasonable position. we could prevent what's happening on the southern border by preventing people from entering mexico in the first place. >> the president is planning a visit to a border town on friday when he's in california. i want to get to ed lavandera in el paso texas for us. and martin savage in brownsville, texas. the migrant center in brownsville is way over capacity, nearly triple capacity, what's the plan?
>> agents here are saying that they're reassigning agents to handle the influx and the overflow of migrants that are being processed. for the better part of the last two weeks, many migrants were being held under this bridge here. this is one of the bridges that leads from el paso texas. there were hundreds of migrants who had been waiting for hours and hours under this bridge waiting to be processed. that had been going on for the better part of the last two weeks, all of a sudden, the images of those migrants sitting and waiting under that bridge, they're gone here today. that is no longer going on here at this scene in downtown el paso. we're waiting to hear from cbp officials as to where they've been taken and how they're being processed. the commissioner says there's
about 3500 at last count, migrants that need to be processed here. ana this has been one of the areas that's been of intense focus, this el paso sector which reaches out into the remote areas of new mexico, you've seen large groups of migrants arriving over the course of the last few months, agents continue to say that they're overwhelmed. critics of the administration and the way customs and border protection has been handling this, saying this is essentially an agency trying to create an image of chaos to push this idea of the national emergency to build more border wall, that's why we're seeing these images along the border. critics say that the agencies have plenty of resources to handle processing these large numbers of migrants. >> we see, it is a developing situation. we know you're continuing to follow what happened to those people that were in that holding
area behind you. thank you for that reporting, let me turn to martin savage who is in brownsville, texas, where the texas police plan to release a large number of migrants from their processing centers. how are officials embracing for this? >> the time line is something city officials would love to know. they haven't fully heard from federal officials. they have been informed that at least 2,000 migrants have been released in the rio grande valley. they don't know when, and they don't know how many more thousands mu s could be headed way. this is the handoff point where those migrants go from federal control right to the city's control. they've worked out a system that seems to be going pretty well today, and that's where they're greeted by city officials and the county. those migrants are screened, they check the documents and if they have travel arrangements
they could be helped on a bus or transported to the airport so they can go and fly and be with family members here in the u.s. while they await their asylum fate. otherwise, brownsville is prepared to house them temporarily, there are shelters that open them up to feed and provide showers. what they don't want is for brownsville to become a destination. this would be the holding area, they go from federal authorities to right into the city's hands and the city does not want that. move along as quickly and humanely as they can, they are doing pretty well. >> i'm comfortable because what happened is, i've dealt with this issue for a long time now, i'm not talking about decades, but i'm talking about a little more than a year, and everything that they've sent down our way, we've been able to handle and i'm proud to be honest with you, of my volunteers, the people, the city people, the community.
>> the situation is their handling on their own, a federal problem, and they're paying for it, and that is adding up very quickly, ana. >> i imagine it is, thank you so much. joining us now is juan vargas who represents the 51st district in california, that includes part of the u.s. mexican border. congressman, thanks for being with us. do you agree with the president's suggestion to shut down the southern border? >> it's the most idiotic thing he's said since raking the leaves in the forest, that that's what finland does to prevent fires. it would be a disaster for both sides of the border, for the united states, for mexico, millions of people would ultimately lose their jobs. it is really dumb. >> what do you see as the economic impact there in your district? >> well, the economic impact in my district would be a disaster.
we have san jacidro, the busiest bort of entry in the western hemisphere. and hundreds of thousands of jobs in california count on that border, of that crossing. frankly, all of the united states not just california would be impact. it's something that's unbereavable reckless, stupid and again it is up there with some of the dumbest things he's said since he's been president. >> i know the san jacidro port of entry was closed back in november after there was a clash along the border. and i understand, according to the chamber of commerce, that the estimated toll that took to local businesses was $5.3 million to have that closed for just a few hours. immigration is an issue that the president works for him politically. he's focuses on it for a long time. and now given the reality we're seeing on the ground. the shelters above capacity,
doesn't that bolster his position that there is a crisis? >> no, in fact he's creating this crisis interestingly. we've seen numbers larger than this a decade ago, and why were we able to handle it? the administration was trying to handle it. he's trying to make this crisis, he's making it a crisis and every time he opens his mouth in central america they hear, oh, united states let's go. he is, in a sense getting more people to come. so all the things he's doing as barbaric as they are, is actually making the situation worse. i've lived on the border my entire life, i have to tell you, it's never been like this, we've had larger numbers, absolutely we've had more people coming. but it's worked better because the administration hasn't been trying to make it a crisis. they've been trying to make it a crisis, trying to make it look bad. >> why are we seeing this speak
in migrants now? >> i think there's two reasons, we've always had a spike in the spring this is not unusual. that's one, secondly, he's talking so much about it, he's like the commercial down in central america. i mean, it's interesting, he thinks every time he opens his mouth, fewer people are -- >> you think it's backfire? >> it's backfiring. he is a commercial for come to the united states, every time he says something like this, more people come, he's the person drawing -- oddly enough, he's the problem once again. if he would just shut up. >> you agree with the president that more people are coming across the border? that there is a situation at the border regardless of who or what is to blame? now, we've seen the images coming out of el paso texas, where migrants have been held under a bridge. the head of the cdp says the system is at a breaking point right now.
kirsten nilsson says we're in a free fall. what is congress going to do? >> we should help, but frankly, let's be fair, if you go back and take a look at the numbers, the actual numbers of a decade ago, they were higher then. they were higher -- >> a decade ago, in 2000 is when we saw the peek, and then it started to go down. given what we've heard, it could reach in this fiscal year a million immigrants, migrants being apprehended at the border, that's getting much closer to those numbers back in early 2000 than they have been in the past several years. >> it's an excellent point you make, i ask you this, why wasn't it a crisis back then when we had fewer officers. wasn't it an outrageous crisis back then as it is today. this administration purposely is creating this crisis, yes, the numbers are bigger and yes we
should spend more money housing the people, but also, this administration purposely has his inhumane processes to make it look bad, make it a crisis. they're women and children. put the ankle bracelets on them, let them go as we used to, you wouldn't have to cage them under these overpasses, which is inhumane, outrageous, illegal and makes us look so bad, it's ridiculous. >> let me summarize what i'm hearing you say. let these people go, give them ankle bracelets. you could offer more fundses to the border when it comes to housing, food, medical care. the trump administration is offering another solution. they're saying, let's cut off aid to the northern triangle countries. guatemala, honduras, el
salvador. >> we could prevent a lot of what's happening on the southern border by preventing people from moving into mexico in the first place. >> right, that's what the us aid money does, makes those count countries more stable. >> if it's working so well, why are the people still coming? why are these historic numbers -- again, 100,000 people across the border, this month alone. that is a crisis. it's a humanitarian crisis, a security crisis. >> congressman, should countries where these migrants are coming from be doing more? should theying held accountable to prevent migration? >> they certainly should, however, i've known mick a long time. that's one of the dumbest things he wants to do. when he wants to cut off aid to these countries that are trying to do something about it, he's going to make the numbers worse, he's going to double the numbers. once again it's like a commercial to get people to come
to the united states, every time they emphasize this more people come, cutting off aide is going to make the situation much worse, much more chaotic and these numbers are only going to grow. i served them for six years, good guys, smart guys, their politics are different. that's the dumbest thing he's ever said. to cut off aid like that is ridiculous, it's even going to make the situation much worse, and they ought to rethink that. >> congressman juan vargas, i appreciate your perspective, thanks for being here. >> new questions and fewer answers tonight over the data breach of amazon ceo jeff bezos. why he's confident saudi arabia had access to bezos' phone. joe biden hasn't even entered the race yet, but now he's having to defend against allegations of inappropriate behavior, what a former nevada state lawmaker is saying live in the cnn newsroom.
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new developments and new questions in the scandal involving jeff bezos. after racy texts between him and his mistress were leaked to the national enquirer. fingers pointed to sanchez' brother after the source of the leak. gavin de becker writes this. our investigators and several experts concluded with high confidence that the saudis had access to bezos' phone and gained private information. for more, i'm joined by oliver darcie. let's back up for a second. de becker is bringing the saudis back into this. remind us where they fit into this story. >> the story is incredibly confusing and getting more confusing by the minute. so you'll remember back when jeff bezos posted that medium post a couple months ago, he hinted the saudi arabian government might be involved in
leaking that information about his affair to the national enquirer. people are looking into it and figuring out what that meant. now a security consultant is writing in the daily beast that the saudi government had access to his phone and the implication is that they may have leaked this information or tipped off the national enquirer about jeff bezos' affair. why would they do that? he's the owner of the washington post, and the post has been critical in its coverage of the saudi government because of the murder of jamal khashoggi. the idea is that the saudis hacked or got information on jeff bezos that would make him look bad that leaked that information, in some sort of a revenge plot. >> what is the national enquirer or ami saying. they're denying this, they're saying despite the false and unsubstantiated claims of mr. de becker, american media has and
continues to refute the unsubstantiated claims of materials for our report required with the help of anyone, other than a single source that first brought them to us. that source, they say sanchez, who is the brother of lauren sanchez who bezos was having an a235ir with. we have reported previously at cnn that sanchez was the source for the national enquirer, and it is note worthy that de becker while he writes this column in the daily beast and says the saudis were involved, or at least accessed to the information on bezos' phone. he doesn't present any evidence to back up that assertion. we're still waiting. >> we have asked for evidence many times. and he has not provided any. he's made these aergs ises and so you have to take his word for what it is. there's a lot of competing story lines here.
>> the timing is interesting. the fact that he's writing an op ed, he's putting this out there without all the evidence. let's move on to another topic. i want everyone to take a look at this graphic that was on fox and friends this morning. the state department announced the u.s. is cutting off aide to el salvador, honduras and guatemala for not stopping migrants from coming to the u.s. trump cuts u.s. aide to three mexican countries. that's obviously inaccurate. do we know how this happened? >> i don't know what to say about something like that. ed henry, one of the co-hosts of fox and friends this weekend, came out and apologized for that, it's really unclear. i think what's so striking about this, it's so sloppy. and it is representative of the whole fox and friends show, right? they're not tethered really a lot of times to reality to the
facts. and this is where the president of the united states is getting information. we know this because he tweets every single day about what he sees on fox and friends, so this chyron is a sloppy error, but it speaks larger volumes about what fox and friends is putting out there. >> thank you very much. good to see you. as joe biden mulls a 2020 bid, he's now on the defensive after allegations that he made a nevada politician uneasy. hear how she's describing her interaction and his response next live on the cnn newsroom. ♪ you got this! ♪ woo! ♪ ♪
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new today, former vice president joe biden is responding to allegations that he acted inappropriately toward a nevada state lawmaker. here's what lucy flores told cnn about what happened before a campaign event in 2014. >> very unexpectedly, and out of nowhere, i feel joe biden put his hands on my shoulder, got you very close to me from behind, leaned in, smell my hair, and then plant a slow kit on the top of my head. and that in and of itself might not sound like it's a serious thing, that in and of itself might sound like it was innocent and well intentioned. but in the context of it as a person that had no relationship with him afterwards as a candidate that was preparing to make my case effected as the
second in command of that state, to have the vice president of the united states do that to me unexpectedly and just kind of out of nowhere, it was shocking. >> in response, biden says he's given countless handshakes and hugs on the campaign trail, and not once, never did i believe i acted inappropriately. if it's suggested i did so, i will listen respectfully, but it was never my intention. joining me now, the associate editor for real clear politics. biden's response was the third statement put out by his team. how do you think he's handled all of this. >> it is interesting. they're trying to walk a line where they don't acknowledge he's done something disqualifying. they're trying to talk about his long history of hugging people and kissing people and that they have too do, there have been as kellyanne conway and others have pointed out, lucy flores, their pictures, there are videos of
him behaving this way, so they're trying to acknowledge this same time not apologizing for anything, because he doesn't feel that what he did was inappropriate. lucy flores made the case on "state of the union" about why she felt this was inappropriate. you can see the other candidates responding to this, i think people -- in the responses so far, i've noticed there's a coress of this one event may not be disqualifying, but women must be heard. they're trying to acknowledge it without a full fledged apology and hope they can move on. >> flores may have been politically motivated in sharing her story. here's her response to that. >> you know the people might accuse of you of being politically motivated here. we should point out, you supported bernie sanders in 2016, you attended a beto o'rourke campaign event yes, you told us you haven't endorsed any candidate yet, you haven't
decided who you want to support. how would you respond, to someone who says, she's attending a beto rally, politics might be partially motivating you here, what would you tell those people? >> politics was definitely the impet impetus, the reason we're having these conversations is because joe biden is considering running for president. >> michael as he mentioned, we heard from elizabeth sanders, among others weighing, in saying they believe lucy flores, do you think this scandal if you want to call it that would keep biden from entering the race? >> well, it certainly seems to be challenging him in the decision he's making. it seems for months. this is a fight that's happening within the democratic party. we can remember a couple years ago, the much loved senator from minnesota essentially pushed out after some photos and other
evidence that he sort of acted inappropriately in a sexual way. kirsten gill brand who is a presidential candidate, a big part of that, there is this fight now, it's generational and i think that it is -- must be giving them pause, the three statements you're saying from both biden's spokesperson suggests this is something they're very concerned about. the others are running with, and asking these questions. i also thought it was interesting that miss flores didn't run away from the idea that this was politically motivated. but she's talking about it in a way that this is a decision that we have to make as democrats and as voters in our political process, that's a sea change that's happened over the last couple years as me too has become a part of our culture. >> i wonder when it comes to the president and republicans, if this is something they're going to stay far away from considering the president's own history himself? >> that's the thing, that's why
kellyanne conway was trying to make hey of this today on fox news channel by saying the democrats won't put up with this, essentially was her conclusion, because republicans have put up with this, it's not an issue republicans can criticize joe biden on should he become the nominee. the running to become the nominee, because they can't defend all the accusations against president trump. so it's going to -- >> so biden versus trump in the general, does this issue just go away. >> i believe it wouldn't be an issue at all, in the general election, this is something that either kirsten gillibrand or one of the other candidates is going to pick up with and cut biden down. he leads in the polls. we have no sense of what the democratic primary franken having to leave the senate. there was a backlash to the reaction against him. there are people that are going to stand up and push back
against us saying biden's our front-runn front-runner. he's the best shot at beating trump. >> as we look to 2020, health care is going to be a top issue, at least it's expected to be given the president is pushing for the courts to overturn obamacare, but he still has no replacement. here's jake tapper asking mick mulvaney about this. >> keep in mind we have offered plans in the house, in the senate, we came up with a bunch of ideas out of the white house. they didn't pass because john mccain went back on his word to vote for it in the middle of the night. that's another story for another day. what we're going to do over the course of the next couple months, because the lawsuit will move slowly is to come up with something that can pass into law. we'd love to work with democrats, we don't think they're going to do that with us until that lawsuit is over. >> won the it be responsible to have the replacement there before you take the insurance away from the individuals, the
tens of millions of americans who are relying on it. >> would it be responsible for the democrats to pass a decent bill in the first place, they didn't do that, they admit that. >> i'm guessing the president will like that he brought up john mccain again in his answer, it sounds like he's banking on this lawsuit to go slow, what if it doesn't? >> i think republicans have a big problem on their hands, this is what you're hearing from republicans connected on capitol hill, they're saying, we weren't expecting this, we weren't ready for this a real -- another sort of example of how the white house and capitol hill republicans have a disconnect there, and it's interesting that it's mick mulvaney who's not only the acting white house chief of staff, still the figure ahead, the office of management and budget, the head white house budget office, these are things he seems to be pushing really hard from that position. lots of power there, and republicans on the hill just are throwing their hands up going how can we be prepared for this,
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police say she got into the wrong car and wound up murdered. the suspect is being held on charges. 21-year-old samantha josefson was last seen on 24 this surveillance camera outside of a bar friday. it looks like she was waiting for an uber that she had ordered through the app, when a black chevrolet impala pulled up, she got in, she never made it home. jean casaress is following this story for us.
there were chilling details about what and who police found inside the suspect's car when they took them into custody. >> it was a traffic stop, it was 24 hours later after she was allegedly abducted in that vehicle. what they found first of all. pulled it over, who is now the suspect fled from the car so the officer pursues him, gets him, gets him into custody, brings him back, and in that car authorities are saying was a large amount of blood, a long with cleaning supplies. bleach, some personal wipes, even some windex and a female. a female was in the front seat. she's cooperating with authorities, they do not believe she was with him at the time of the alleged abduction. and even murder. but she was there in the car
filled with blood that had been 24 hours later. >> that is so chilling. what do police say happened after samantha josefson got into the car? >> we don't know a lot. here's what we do know. she was transported, either dead or alive 90 miles from where she was picked up. there was an immense amount of blood in that car, what that shows is that something very violent happened. when you suffocate something there's not a lot of blood. even a gunshot, depending upon where it would be, there's not that much blood. so there had to be something extremely violent and there were child restraint locks in place in the back seat so that she couldn't have gotten out even if she wanted to. >> that makes me sick. i can't imagine being her family. we're hearing from her father, right? >> we are. she was a student at the university of south carolina, she was a political science major and her father posted one thing and we want to read that for you.
he says, it is with tremendous sadness and of a broken heart that i post this. i will miss and love my baby girl for the rest of life. samantha is no longer with us, but she will not be forgotten. it is extremely hard to write this and post it, but i love her with all my heart, i could turn to write about her, but it kills me, i sit here and cry while looking at the picture and write this. and ana, they are from new jersey, so her family is now in south carolina, but they did not live close to where she was where she was that political science major. she was with her friends. >> and then they parted ways, and when the friends realized the next day, she's not here, she's gone, they called authorities, but it was hunters, turkey hunters that found the body while authorities are talking with her roommates. and if not for those turkey hunters it could have been months, years because it was --
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collusion, there were several questionable incidences involving the president's team, but we cannot a criminal connection. >> no collusion. no diggity. no doubt. [ air horn ] >> all joking aside, the developments this week with the mueller investigation created some confusion and a lot of new questions. which brings us to our weekly segment cross exam with ellie honick. he's a former state prosecutor. you said your inbox almost crashed with so many questions. and the one on everyone's mind i think is, will we actually see the mueller report and what information might be kept from the public even if some of it is released? the main focus of our viewers questions this week was william barr's four-page summary of the mueller report. a lot of people are calling that a cliff notes version of the mueller report.
>> cliff notes, i remember that. i won't ask you if you used them or not. i will cop to using them when i was younger. cliff notes are 100 pages. barr's letter is four pages. we saw it was four pages, and the mueller report is 400 william barr announced late last week we'd all be seeing some of the mueller report by mid april which is good. that's quick. that seems like a reasonable deadline. one of the big question system going to be what happens with grand jury information. william barr said he's in the process of redacting out grand jury information. that means anything that robert mueller got by subpoena. we know he served 2,800 subpoenas in this case. that is ten times more than i ever served in any case. if grand jury comes out of this report, it is going to be redacted like crazy and i don't think people will accept it as a fully transparent version of the report. >> one person who did not get a subpoena was president trump. we talked about this a lot because the question of obstruction of justice, that really speaks to that question.
if you were asked why do you think that he was not subpoenaed? >> this is one of the big mysteries that still lingers around this. if we remember on the questions about russia conspiracy, mueller worked out a deal with trump's team that they could take the written exam, the take home exam. when it came to obstruction, trump's team took a hard line. the quote from the lawyers was over my dead body will i let donald trump, rudy giuliani said this, go in and speak to robert mueller for reasons we can probably understand. that left mueller with a choice. issue a subpoena and try to force trump in or walk away and mueller chose to walk away. i think given where mueller came out on obstruction that the evidence was so close he couldn't even make a decision. i think this is one of the questions that lawmakers are going to focus on if and when they have william barr and perhaps robert mueller in to testify on capitol hill. >> we know there are still some ongoing investigations involving roger stone, rick gates, michael flynn. perhaps others. one viewer wants to know is it likely mueller will refer ongoing investigations to the
southern district of new york and could trump pardon any convictions that happen there? >> yes and yes. we actually found out for sure this week that there are other ongoing investigations that come off of mueller's main mandate. a federal prosecutor in washington, d.c. talked about robust ongoing grand jury investigations. we know the southern zridistric has michael cohen and the inaugural. even in his letter william barr says some of the information he's redact out relates to ongoing criminal investigations. there are plenty more tentacles to come out of mueller's work. yes, the president can pardon charges out of any u.s. attorney's offices including the southern district of new york. those are federal charges the president can pardon federally. >> but he can't pardon state charges. we know at least paul manafort's case there is some state investigation going on involving him. >> yes. >> what are your top questions for this week? >> the house democrats gave william barr an april 2nd deadline to release the full mueller report. that's tuesday. barr has now said we'll get it probably the week after, by mid
april. nadler said if we don't get it by -- i'm sticking to april 2. if we don't get it by april 2 i'm issuing a subpoena. well, he said i'm going to take action. i don't think there's any problem waiting until mid april. number two, how are the house democrats going to adjust their oversight strategy? adam schiff doubled down. he gave the speech, do we think this is okay? maybe not up here beyond a reasonable doubt but do we think this is okay. it looks like there will be some effort to continue digging in and counter veiling efforts to try to go down new roads. the last one is, is doj going to do anything about the president's request now that he claims that he's been fully exonerated, now the other side. he said we need to investigate the other side. not clear who he means. but if he means the people who opened this investigation, i see that as a huge problem. i think that is the opposite of what the department of justice is about. if barr doj starts getting used to avenge personal or political
problems that the president has, that is really the opposite of what having an impartial nonpolitical department of justice is about. >> as always, thank you. if you want to learn more or ask your own questions, check out cross-exam at cnn.com. they put a man on the moon so what's the big deal about making enough space suits for women? judy motes has that story next. ♪ that's some great paint. ♪ that's some great paint. behr ultra, a top-rated interior and exterior paint. paint, prime, protect - all in one. now that's some great paint! find it exclusively at the home depot.
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ann mcclain and christina cook were scheduled to go outside and change batteries on the international space station. >> i'm kind of a geek at heart. >> i'm a total nerd, but nerds get to go to space. >> ann got her first walk in space march 22nd with a male astronaut. she's the one wearing red stripes. but with both women scheduled to go space walking friday, there weren't enough size medium suits to go around. that launched snarky tweets like we can put a man on the moon but we can't put a woman in a space suit? even hillary clinton chimed in, make another suit. some fun facts about space suits. first, they're not actually custom fitted to each astronaut. the ones currently being used were designed over 40 years ago and could cost as much as $250 million to create a new suit from scratch. turns out they do have a second
size medium siguit on board the space station but prepping it takes time. they didn't think they'd need it because ann trained on the ground wearing medium and large suits, but when she went on her first real space walk, she thought the medium fit better. christina is now being paired to go space walking with a larger male astronaut but they have the option of just switching the people. the mission becomes more important than a cool milestone. nasa told "the new york times." at least there's nothing wrong with getting caught wearing the same outfit. >> it's one small step for man. >> one size medium for two women. cnn, new york. >> quick programming note. don't miss an episode of the cnn original series "tricky dick" following richard nixon's rise, fall, and incredible comeback and political destruction airing tonight at 9:00 right here on cnn.