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to be treading carefully, jim, as you found out. we have no ideas when they say weeks, do they mean four weeks or longer? we don't know, but if they get it wrong again, they have a much longer term problem of much greater depth. >> a lot at stake. thank you very much, tom foreman. >> a very good tuesday morning to you. it's a busy one. i'm jim sciutto. >> i'm poppy harlow. we begin with what is not happening on capitol hill. the house judiciary committee not receiving the complete and unredacted mueller report despite today's deadline. that means subpoenas will go out as soon as storm. also, another house committee, the oversight committee, meeting to subpoena the man formally in charge of white house security clearances. at issue, there's a whistleblower working inside the white house claiming 25 white house staffers got clearances only after higher-ups overturned
rejections of the clearances from the personnel security office. big deal. >> incredible. senior officials. no action on the health care front unless you count democrats rallying outside the supreme court, this against the trump administration's station to abolish obamacare. they say congress will not vote on a new plan for a couple years from now, until after next year's elections. let's dig into this with manu raju. beginning on this mueller report fight. they're not going to meet this deadline today, are they? >> no, they're not. six democratic committee chairs in the house have sent a letter to bill barr demanding the full unredacted report, saying they're prepared to subpoena for this report, demanding bill barr's testimony. not in may as he's proposed but now, according to this letter. and they're saying bob mueller should come before congress and testify as well. they're calling on barr not to,
quote, interfere with the potential mueller testimony. now, at the same time, the president has been going after jerry nadler, the house judiciary committee chairman and the house intelligence committee chairman, adam schiff. he calls schiff shifty, and also said these two congressmen will be satisfied at nothing. now, i had a chance moments ago to ask adam schiff to respond. he said that the president seems to be concerned about the mueller report's release. >> the house voted 420-0 to release the entire mueller report. i certainly strongly support it. it looks like the president, though, is concerned about that. he ought to live up to what he said earlier. he ought to support the full release. none of that should be redacted, but clearly, he's concerned about that coming out. >> what do you make of him insulting you, calling you shifty schiff? >> well, you know, this is nothing new. we have seen these kind of
childish nicknames for a year and a half, but he is violating the cardinal rule of childish nicknames which is you have to pick one and stick with it. >> so schiff also saying bob mueller, they want him to come before his committee to sort it out with several other committees who are also interested in hearing from the special counsel. but today, republicans are pushing back at all the democratic complaints, saying that bill barr has said he's going to go through the process, he'll get what is necessary to redact, provide as much transparency as possible and provide this report by mid-april, but that's not enough to satisfy democrats today. >> also, you have elijah cummings, chairman of the oversight committee saying what this whistleblower is alleging in terms of security clearances pushed through depite recommendations otherwise is in his words, quote, a million times worse than the hillary clinton e-mail saga. what's going on here? what are they actually doing about it? >> yeah, that's what elijah cummings told me last night. in his view, what's happening with the security clearances is
a million times worse than what happened with hillary clinton and the e-mail controversy. in just a matter of moments, this committee behind me, the house oversight committee, does plan to discuss this, what cummings has threatened to do is subpoena at least one individual, carl klein, who is the head of, former head of personal security at the white house over questions about why he may have overridden concerns by this woman, who cummings called a whistleblower who raised concerns about a number of individuals, that they should not get security clearances only to later get security clearances. cummings called it systemic. it shows that the white house is not taking security seriously. but again, republicans simply do not agree with this, calling cummings' effort here reckless, so expect some fireworks at this vote that's going to take place momentarily. potentially subpoenas could be on the table in a matter of moments. >> manu raju on the hill, thanks very much. we're joined by usa today
columnist kurt bardella. nice to have you on the show. >> thanks, jim. >> first, if we can, talk about the security clearance issue here. this is 25 people in the white house with access to extremely sensitive information, as well as of course access to the president. after we have already seen issues with security clearances. jared kushner, for instance, ivanka trump. issued over the recommendations of security agencies. the president overruling them. first question is, how severe a security issue is this? >> well, i think that's what chairman cummings and the oversight committee want to find out. it's not just that 25 people received clearances that probably shouldn't have. it's what were the reasons why their clearance in the first place was denied and rejected. what are the reasons why people felt they may be compromised. there may be information that could be used against them. we're talking about the top secrets of the nation, and cummings is right when he says
this is bigger than the hillary clinton e-mails. it is. i worked at the oversight committee for republicans for five years. i can tell you, if this had happened under the obama administration, republicans would be holding hearings, issuing subpoenas and saying the same thing. >> where are they on this issue then? the hillary clinton issue was in large part because there was classified information on these e-mails sent to the private server. there was so much talk about that, the e-mails marked "c" for confidential. you remember it. this is more comprehensive, is it not? and involved really overruling security agencies saying there's an issue here. that's different. are there any republicans who are raising their hand and saying we should be concerned about this? >> unfortunately not. that's what's puzzling because you're right. at the time for the hillary clinton and the whole benghazi episode that lasted for four years, it was all about security. it was all about worrying about classified information. nobody, by the way, was questioning whether hillary
clinton was qualified to receive the information. which is what we're talking about right now. the republicans' default position is it wasn't 25 people. only four or five worked directly in the white house for the president. when that's your default that only four or five people may have been able to get information, that's not strong ground. >> plus jared and ivanka. on the mueller report, the big question, let's throw out the law for a moment because it's a political judgment to some degree because barr seems to have a lot of leeway. will he allow evidence in this report to go public? evidence that mueller found because he cited it, that the president obstructed justice. will he let that out there or will barr fall back on justice department protocols and say listen, i don't want to put stuff out there to sully people's reputations? how will this end? >> it looks like they're not going to meet the tuesday deadline. hence, they'll vote tomorrow on subpoenaing the report. in the last hour, president trump going on this tweet storm
about adam schiff, the intelligence chairman, he's saying there shouldn't be documents or testimony. he's saying they don't want to cooperate. if the a.g. is taking his cues from the president, they're going to do everything they can to resist complying with the subpoena, which sets up a legal battle that will have to take place. >> it ain't over. kurt bardella, thanks very much. sdploo all right, also this morning, president trump punting on health care. just a week after promising the republican party would become the party of health care, in the president's own words. now he says the gop plan to replace obamacare will wait until after the 2020 election. >> that's a couple years from now. >> a big deal. >> joining us now, sunlen serfaty on capitol hill. president trump's attack on the affordable care act has been a rallying call for democrats. it strikes me they smell opportunity here. >> absolutely, jim. you can see that in everything they have done in the time since. democrats really trying to capitalize on the trump
administration's move on health care. many of those democrats, of course, know this is essentially a winning issue for them. many of them ran and won their own races on health care, so are very eager to essentially keep the spotlight focused on the health care discussion. and that's why in just a few minutes, later this hour, they're rallying outside the supreme court. that will be led by speaker of the house nancy pelosi, to keep the spotlight squarely focused on this. keep talking about this. and certainly, we have seen them do that in the last few days. republicans, of course, on capitol hill, are facing a much different story in the reaction to this. obviously, they were caught a little bit on their back foot when the trump administration announced moves to work on health care. many of them were saying we don't know what the plan is here, and a lot of them were just throwing up their hands saying we're not sure what the plan is here, so certainly this reversal from the trump administration, trump tweeting out this morning that this will be put on the back burner until
after 2020, certainly is welcome news for republicans up here on capitol hill. and later today, we will see democrats again try to capitalize on this issue. they're voting on a resolution in the house to condemn the trump administration embracing that lawsuit that would invalidate the affordable care act. trying to keep the spotlight squarely focused on that. >> let's discuss now with eliana johnst johnston. it was not that long ago that we heard from marc short, chief of staff for vice president mike pence. the president, quote, will be putting forward plans this year that we hope to introduce to congress. what happened? i guess what kind of divide does it show within the white house? >> well, you know, the white house had no alternative to obamacare. the president just last week was pressing a group of four or five republicans on capitol hill to come up with a plan. that was at the same time that senate majority leader mitch
mcconnell privately and publicly and house minority leader kevin mccarthy told the president, sorry, republican lawmakers are not going to be coming up with a plan, and we're not happy with this announcement you made that you want to see obamacare invalidated. that really left the president with no other choice than to retreat on this position that he wanted to see obamacare entirely gutted. >> the question then becomes, you know, what are the democrats going to do in response to this? because you've got 41% of voters, if you look at the most recent polling, saying health care was the most important issue for them in the midterms. you also have some issues with the affordable care act in terms of the fact that you've got in 21% of counties across the nation in a new kaiser study, 40-year-old earning $50,000 would have to spend 10% of their health care costs on obamacare. do democrats rally around let's fix parts of obamacare that we think are broken, are we going
to see a bigger split become apparent in the party between those who want, like the sanders wing, medicare for all, and those who want to fix parts of obamacare? >> yeah, it's a great question. you know, i think the president saying that the republicans are going to replace obamacare after 2020 makes this a campaign issue. it already is an issue in the democratic primary with a split between democrats backing medicare for all and democrats who want to fix the problems with obamacare. and now, this gives them an opportunity to press republicans on what is the plan that you're going to replace obamacare with after the 2020 election? two years ago, when republicans failed to repeal and replace obamacare, they couldn't unite behind a plan. i think that gives democrats an opening to really beat republicans over the head or pressure republicans with what is that plan going to look like. >> some republicans in congress are saying hold on, mr. president, we don't love the direction you're taking us in.
your congressman peter king told cnn, let me pull it up, i just wish the president had ridden the victory wave longer from mueller to avenatti. now we're talking about, you know, the border. other people talking about health care. we're on the defense. we should be on the offense. is he right? >> you know, the president's move last week in what was arguably the best couple of days of his presidency when the mueller report came out and michael avenatti was arrested and indicted, his move to switch the conversation to health care, which has historically been a losing issue for republicans, really befuddled a lot of his republican allies on capitol hill. i think peter king, i don't know if he's right, but he's certainly voicing what most republicans on the hill were feeling, including republican leaders mitch mcconnell and kevin mccarthy who privately expressed their frustrations to the president who quickly turned from a winning issue for him, the summary of the mueller
report, to a losing one, health care. >> eliana johnson, thank you. nice to have you. >> thank you. still to come, will the president make good on his threat to shut down the southern border? or will he reverse on that as well? senior trump adviser says it all depends on how the week goes. next, we'll speak to the white house director of strategic communications. should be an interesting chat. >> for sure. also, no matter which candidates wins the race for chicago, the next mayor of chicago, take a look at the two contenders there. you'll see history will be made. visionworks can do more than just make you see great. the right pair of glasses can make you look amazing, too. get two complete pairs of single vision glasses for $59 or two progressives for $99. and choose from over 500 frames. visionworks. we're here to help you.
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the president, the president has not yet decided but there are growing concerns a shutdown could have major repercussions, especially on the u.s. economy. joining me now to discuss this and other topics, white house director of strategic communications, mercedes schlapp. it's always good to have you on our show. thank you for coming on. >> thank you for having me. >> first, direct question. is the president going to close the u.s. border this week? >> look, we're looking at all options. i think the reality, jim, is what we're seeing is we're being left with really little choices at this point. we're looking at in department of homeland security is redeploying resources, moving them from the ports of entry to the front lines. because of what we're seeing as a huge surge coming over from the border from the illegal immigrants who are trying to come through the border, and it's putting a lot of pressure on our border patrol agents. it's overwhelming the system. and in essence, we have to take action. that's why there's this deployment of resources to other
areas along the border. >> let me ask you this. the last time a u.s. president closed or partially closed the border was after 9/11. this was president bush. did it for a couple days. reversed that decision because of the enormous economic costs and disruption. you have today the chamber of congress, the u.s. chamber of congress saying it would be an economic calamity to shut the border. these are pictures after 9/11. the center for automotive research says the u.s. auto industry would shut down in one week if the mexican border was closed because of all of the dependence on plants down there for parts, et cetera. is the president saying that price is necessary to pay today on a step that hasn't been taken since 9/11? >> what we're seeing is the cost of lives at the border. we're seeing women being sexually assaulted as they are coming through the border. we're seeing the fact that smugglers and drug cartels are basically using our weak immigration laws to benefit, to financially benefit, and again, the cost is the endangerment of
children and vulnerable families. the cost is that of women who are being sexually assaulted when they take this dangerous journey. in essence, this is a wake-up call to congress, to these democrats, to take action on this humanitarian crisis and this national security crisis. as you know, jim, it was the former obama dhs secretary, jeh johnson who said this was a crisis. for the democrats, they keep calling it a manufactured crisis. >> i asked someone from customs and border patrol yesterday if he or anyone in his agency recommended to the white house closing the border, if he's heard it. he said no. i asked trump's former ambassador, the president's former ambassador to mexico whether she during her time ever heard that recommendation. who has recommended this step to the border and if it's not coming from his national security advisers, how we do not conclude it's more about politics? >> the president is looking at all options. we're being left with no choice, little choices at this point in terms of what we're going to do
with our resources. what has had to happen is we had to move our border patrol agents about 750 of them from the ports of entry into the other areas of the border where we're seeing a huge surge coming from illegal aliens, family units who are crossing the border. so in essence, there is a crisis. so what we're asking for is for democrats to take action. congress to work together to close the league loopholes so our border patrol agents have the authority to detain and remove these unaccompanied minors and return them back safely to their families. >> okay, another topic, health care, which you know is a hot topic this week and also frequently cited as the number one topic for voters, as we head to 2020. just days ago, the president said he and four or five senators, they had a plan. this weekend, the president's chief of staff said that plan would be ready, in his words, in the next couple months.
now, the president says he's punting this issue until really two years from now, after the 2020 election. i'm curious, and i think it's a reasonable question, was there ever actually a plan? and if there was, describe it to us. can you show it to us? what does it look like? >> well, first, let's start with the political reality. the political reality is that the democrats, they are trying to salvage what they can of obamacare. they're not even happy with the current state of obamacare, which we know has been a disaster. which has led to skyrocketing premiums, the doubling of deductibles and the huge impact on quality care for american families and individuals. also, you have to realize that the democrats now are even wanting to go even further. they want to go into government control health care, which we know would result in about 180 million americans -- >> i know you want to talk about the democrats, but the president put his neck out there. >> that's the political reality. >> the president said we're going to be the party of health
care. >> yes, and what we want to do -- >> now he's saying i will be in 2020 or 2021. >> jim, again, i present you the political reality of what we're seeing in the house of representatives where you have the radical left basically controlling these moderate democrats and pushing and advocating for socialized medicine as well as government takeover of health care, which we know would be detrimental to our health care system. what the president wants to do is work with congress to insure that we move forward on principles that basically offer more options. >> i just want to know, was there a plan? was there actually a plan or was the president exaggerating? >> we have been working on a plan and our goal is to work with congress and our republican counterparts to insure that we move forward on a health care system that puts patients first. >> working on it, but it didn't actually exist. >> as opposed to having the government control your decisions on health care. >> okay.
>> so what we have been able to do from an administrative standpoint already, jim, is we have been able to expand associated health care plans. offer more options like short-term duration plans which allow americans to choose as opposed to putting them in what you would call a one size fits all health care system, which the democrats are trying to push for. >> another topic because it's the anniversary today. six months ago today, as you know, jamal khashoggi was murdered, dismembered, body disappeared. as you know, the cia has asaysed the saudi crown prince directed that killing. and you also know because we spoke about this last time you were on the air, two months ago, the trump administration was required by law under the magnitsky act to make a judgment as to who is responsible. at the time, two months ago, you said we're waiting for a thorough and complete review. where does that review stand and why is it taking so long? >> i don't have an update on that investigation, on the review. you know the president took
immediate action in sanctioning individuals on this killing. it is -- >> but not the leadership. >> it was a tragedy. and they did -- we moved forward on quick sanctions on these individuals in saudi arabia. and again, it was horrific. so i would have to refer you to the state department for any updates on the review. >> final question because as you know, the cia has assessed that saudi leadership is responsible. the magnitsky act requires the administration to make its determination. if the cia says that, are you saying the president still rejects the intelligence agency's conclusion on this? >> again, the president has been working with the state department as well as our intelligence community. he took immediate action following the tragic killing of khashoggi, and again, i would refer you to the state department when it comes to figuring out where we are from the review standpoint. >> we'll ask them. mercedes schlapp, great to have you on. i appreciate you taking the hard questions. >> thank you.
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needing police protection from public rage. britain's meant to be one of the richest, most stable countries in the wurj. instead, its military is on standby, while its people stockpile food and medicine. >> order. >> reporter: inside the mother of parliaments, even at the best of times. it's divided and rowdy. >> don't tell me what the procedures of this house are. >> reporter: these are the worst of times, and the british parliamentary system looks paralyzed and chaotic. >> the ayes to the right, 286. the noes to the left, 344. so the noes have it. the noes have it. >> recent weeks have seen a british government's biggest ever defeat. its brexit plan rejected three times so far. there's now talk of a desperate fourth try to get it passed.
>> the people have spoken. >> reporter: it was the shock result of the 2016 brexit referendum that plunged britain into such a terrible mess. >> the british people have voted to leave the european union. >> reporter: the then-prime minister david cameron, who argued to stay in europe, promptly quit. >> offer my resignation, so we'll have a new prime minister in that building behind me by wednesday evening. thank you very much. >> reporter: infamously, britain's national broadcaster reported him humming as he walked away to write his memoirs. >> right. >> reporter: enter theresa may, a new leader with a definite swing in her step and a clear idea, she said, of what brexit really means. >> brexit means brexit. >> reporter: what she didn't say is it also meant torturous negotiations with the european
union, where at times she seemed to struggle. not least with pesky car doors and important summits. inevitably, talk has turned to a change in leadership. >> you have ambitions for the leadership. you're a 10-1 favorite? >> i don't believe in betting. >> or possibly a general election. the third in four years, to break the bedlock. prime minister may herself has promised to step down if lawmakers would only back her brexit deal. she could be forced to resign anyway. brexit may not be delivered by the end of may, but the end of may could still be delivered by brexit. matthew chance, cnn, london. >> fascinating piece. brilliant brighting my matthew there. great opener, great closer. this has huge implications. we'll keep a close on it. >> back in the u.s. to our
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spokeswoman for hillary clinton's 2016 presidential campaign. good morning. how could i say that on equal pay day, by the way? >> that's okay. >> sorry. and i should know you were a senior adviser to stacey abrams. good morning to you. let me get your read on the headline number. $18.2 million raised in q-1. >> that's very impressive. the other thing i noted is something like 900,000 contributors, which also matters greatly because a couple things you want to look at, the size of the number, obviously, but also the number of people who contribute and the average size of the contribution because that tells you that bernie, for example, can go back to these people again and again and again to continue to raise big dollars. >> so let's look at how this stacks up. we don't have everyone's numbers. we have pete buttigieg, mayor of south bend, indiana, raking in
$7 million. you have kamala harris, $12 million. we're waiting for the other ones. how much does it matter the haul in the first quarter? >> you know, i think it matters quite frankly, i think less to most voters. but it matters to all of us who watch and pay attention, and you know, to these campaigns. it's one of the first indicators that we really have about the sort of energy and excitement. you know, we look adthings like crowd sizes and financial contributions. that's why i was saying also the number of people who contribute. remember, those people who are donating money are also people potential voters. they're also potential volunteers. they're also people who have the potential to bring in other people in their networks. so it matters in that it's an early indication of the strength of a person's candidacy. >> the fact that we have seen
pete buttigieg raise $7 million when he's mayor of a town of about, a little over 102,245 to be exact, the population of south bend, indiana. the fact that before there was a cnn town hall with him three week uz ago or so, most americans didn't know who he was. what do you make of that haul and what do you make of the headlines he's made and how he's utilized that newfound platform? >> well, clearly, the cnn town hall is a must-do. >> clearly, every 2020 candidate and the president clearly should join us. >> you gotta do it, right? look, this is the thing. the thing about pete buttigieg that is so impressive, that's exactly how the system is supposed to work in that he did the cnn town hall which got him exposure to more people. on social media, his name has
really risen in the amount of activity around his name. people looking up information about him has increased. and also, he's been doing the work. he's been -- i think he's going back to new hampshire later this week or next week. you know, and so as he travels and more people get to know him, he's really building a groundswell. and i think you see that also, frankly, with kamala. you know, i don't want us to discount these numbers, just given that bernie's number is so big, because these are impressive numbers, and a short period of time to raise that kind of money, particularly given that i'll tell you, poppy, when you talk to some of the larger sort of big party donors, there's a couple things. some of them are holding out to see if vice president biden is going to get in. and some of them have actually said they're going to hold out until after super tuesday because they don't want to fully engage until they know, have a better sense of who's going to be the person. >> sure, are you going to be in it or not. all important points. thank you very much.
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all right. today is a big, big day in chicago. history will be made one way or another. voters headed to the polls to elect the next mayor of chicago. big day. >> think of what this means for residents of chicago. today's run between toni preckwinkle and lori lightfoot, a former federal prosecutor. ryan young is in chicago. no matter who wins tonight, the
third largest city in america will be led by an african-american woman for the first time. that's a big day. >> yeah, it's obviously a big deal, and a lot of people even concluding the people at the polling center are worried about low energy because last time there was a vote, there was only a 35% turnout. they're worried about the same thing because here today, in fact, we have gone inside and talked to people at polling centers, it's been low. the campaigns have been out at cta stops trying to shake hands and get the last bit of votes to come in. let's put this up so you understand who the people running are. toni preckwinkle is considered the insider. the head of the cook county board. she fought for education reforms in the city. lori lightfoot is a former u.s. assistant attorney and calls herself a proud black lesbian and made police reform a huge topic. anyone in this city understands crime is a big issue here. both women have decided they're going to go after this differently. preckwinkle said she may fire the top person at the police
department and make changes there. lightfoot says she wants to take an evaluation of the entire process and see how she can reform it from the inside out. she says she wants to make crime sort of a social issue in the city. now, all this comes obviously on the heels of rahm emanuel, who has been the mayor for the last two terms. he thinks he's gotten crime turned around. we have seen numbers sort of dipping, getting lower and lower. the superintendent who has been in charge for the last year and a half, eddie johnson, has seen success in turning crime down. anyone who comes in has to deal with positive numbers. also, think about the downtown. a bustling downtown, but everyone here is talking about trying to spread that growth from downtown into the outer parts of the city, especially the southwest side that has seen difficulty in the years getting the economic engine turning. when you think about this, the idea that a black female could lead the city, this is something a lot of people dreamed about. people didn't think we would get to this day with these two women
running against each other. interesting how this turns out but a lot of people say with the polling numbers look look they're pushing to the outside with the inside poll position for this position. >> ryan young, thanks so much. we talk about the game changers in congress. so many new historical moments, and this is one in chicago. >> a really significant one. we'll see where it lands. >> we're expecting an update soon from lapd about the manhunt for the suspect in the murder of the rapper nipsey hustle. people are looking for this man, 29-year-old eric holder. police say he's an l.a. resident with gang ties. >> the alleged gunman was identified hours after a stampede broke out at a vigil for hussle in los angeles on monday night. 19 people were hurt. some critically. >> still ahead, the entire women's basketball coaching staff has been placed on administrative leave. why? when you book at hilton.com,
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like this device to increase volume on your cell phone. - ( phone ringing ) - get details on this state program call or visit just happening now in the house oversight committee, hearings about the white house security clearance process and a whistleblower talking about two dozen clearance decisions being overruled. have a listen to the chairman of the oversight committee, elijah cummings. >> this lady was scared. you hear me? she's scared. she's small in stature. and she's already seen what is going on in the white house. she was scared to death. and she was afraid, sadly, of our republican colleagues.
and she did not want -- she wanted to leave work, be able to leave work on friday and not be retaliated against before she left work. so she wanted to have a short notice for the hearing. that's what happened. >> the woman behind the revelations that all these security clearance decisions were overruled because of real concerns about security threats. >> exactly. so subpoenas in the works on that front. >> meantime, the university of north carolina has put the entire coaching staff of its women's basketball team on leave pending a review of the program. the question this morning is why. brynn gingras is following it for us. >> she's a loved coach. people on campus are scratching their heads at this one. issues raised by student athletes and others, that's the only explanation the university of north carolina is given for why they put the entire coaching staff on paid administrative leave.
sylvia hatchel is a hall of fame inductee, one of the most winningest coaches and led her team this year to the ncaa tournament, but it's unclear what happened. no one is really saying. we know an outside law firm will lead a review of the culture and overall experience for students, but there's no timetable for how long this investigation will take. just a promise from unc officials to be prompt. all three coaches, they're all sidelined during this review. she did release a statement, but it's also very vague. let's see what it says. i had the privilege of coaching more than 200 young women during my 44 years in basketball. my goal has always been to help them become the very best people they can be on the basketball court and in life. i love each and every one of the players i have coached and would do anything to encourage and support them. they're like family to me. i love them all. so again, it's very vague. we're not getting anything out of that statement, not getting anything out of the university, so we have to wait and see what happened on this one. >> everyone has to be wondering is this tied to the admissions scandal?
>> i think everyone is wondering that. is it discipline to her players, something else we don't know. i think we would see it if it was tied to the scandal. not clear yet. >> thank you. thank you all for joining us. i'm poppy harlow. >> i'm jim sciutto. "at this hour with kate bolduan" starts right now. hello, i'm erica hill in for kate bolduan. tempers flare. sparks fly in a pivotal hearing happening right now on capitol hill. house democrats taking the first steps toward issuing subpoenas for several white house officials over serious allegations involving security clearances. and soon, the house oversight committee is expected to hold a vote on whether to authorize those subpoenas after a whistleblower claimed 25 people were granted clearances, despite being denied over a range of disqualifying issues. the division among lawmakers, bitter and split along party lines. >> she