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and accessoriesphones for your mobile phone. like this device to increase volume on your cell phone. - ( phone ringing ) - get details on this state program call or visit hello, everyone. i'm kate bolduan. thanks for joining me. homeland security secretary kirstjen nielsen, the public face of president trump's hardline immigration policies, but apparently not hardline enough. abruptly resigning, but make no mistake. she was pushed out. a person close to nielsen said she was forced out after losing key allies in the west wing and
watching her relationship with the president crumble. a senior administration official telling cnn nielsen, quote, believed the situation was becoming untenable with trump becoming increasingly unhinged about the border crisis and making unreasonable and even impossible requests. this might not be the end of it. the president's top adviser on immigration, stephen miller, he's apparently wants to push even more officials out now. jessica schneider and abby phillip are tracking all of this for us. abby, first to you. nielsen is out. miller wants more to go. what's happening? >> we're seeing here, kate, the rise of one of the president's top advisers on immigration, stephen miller, and how he's using his influence within the west wing to make some key personnel changes. now, nielsen was not a -- sorry, miller was not a fan of nielsen. also not a fan of a lot of other people in the west wing,
according to our sources. that he's eyeing the director of the department of citizenship and immigration services as well as the general counsel over at dhs for departures in the coming weeks. this is reflective of the fact that miller has been given a broader portfolio of immigration and border issues. the president has empowered miller to deal with those issues. what that's meant is he's throwing his weight around on key personnel decisions and also pushing the president even further toward some more hard-line positions on the border, causing the president to sour even more on secretary nielsen. one of those key policy disputes, we're learning, is over this issue of family separation. a source telling our evan perez that the president has in recent weeks been trying to get officials to reinstate the family separation policy. now, this is a policy that has been held up in courts. the department of homeland security already telling the courts it would take them years
to reunite the families that have already been separated. it's a deeply unpopular policy. it has caused a lot of political consternation for the president and republicans and for nielsen, but president trump is convinced this is something that is necessary to stop the flow of immigrants coming up from central america. the white house, for their part, is continuing to insist this is not a family separation policy. they want the laws to change to allow them to detain more people. but the laws as they exist right now, if they continue to detain people, as they come into the country, they're going to have to separate families and children. that's something nielsen pushed back on. it's one of the reasons president trump moved to push her out over the weekend, kate. >> all right, so yes caw, let me bring you in on this. it's been well known the tumultuous relationship the president has had with nielsen, but what was the last straw here? >> over the past week, their relationship really started to unravel for really the final time, prompting that resignation yesterday. kate, i'll take you back to last sunday. that was right around the time,
of course, that the president first threatened to shut down the border with mexico. he obviously withdrew that threat later in the week, but last sunday is when kirstjen nielsen left washington for what was supposed to be this week-long trip to europe, all to discuss terror threats with european officials. it turns out she only lasted in europe about a day or two before realizing that she really needed to come back to washington to put her focus on border and the increasing issues there. so of course, we saw on friday just a few days ago, she appeared with the president at the border, but we learned from a source that the president on that trip was really making unreasonable and unlawful requests. we learned that the president told border agents he wanted to stop them or have them stop people from crossing the border, despite the fact, of course, it is u.s. law to allow central american asylum seekers. because that clash with the president had really reached a crescendo by the end of last week, we know that by early yesterday, nielsen knew how the day would likely unfold and that she would ultimately be forced
to resign. but a source is telling our evan perez that kirstjen nielsen really considered this as somewhat of a relief, this resignation. she's been in this pressure cooker for the past week in particular, kate, running up against those hard-line immigration advisers like, of course, stephen miller at the white house that abby talked about. so nielsen, she's been trying to get a handle on the situation for the past week. sort of feeling like it's been slipping out of her control. one interesting anecdote. she led a conference call last week where she announced her team would be handling the increasing border crisis response, like what she called a category-5 hurricane response. you would think that would be good news for the president and his advisers, but we're told stephen miller didn't like that tactic. he actually felt sort of out of the loop on what nielsen was doing, so that ultimately led to nielsen's swift undoing, forcing her to submit a resignation late yesterday. looks like stephen miller's handprints are all over this. >> a lot of important news
coming otof your reporting and abby's reporting on this. i really appreciate it. joining me now is lee gellar, the lead attorney suing the trump administration over family separations on the border, at the border, for the aclu. max boot is also here, senior fellow at the council on foreign relations. a lot of questions for you guys. first, max, with nielsen being out, part of the reporting as they were just talking about is that trump and those around him did not think she was going far enough, pushing far enough. one of the reasons is that the law wouldn't allow it. we have seen that. what does it tanj in secretary mean then here? >> it's a question of whether he can appoint somebody who will actually break the law on his behalf, which is what he seems to be expecting. it's almost comical. you almost have to feel sorry for nielsen, i don't, but almost, because she's willing to violate the dictates of humanity, morality, and ethics
but not willing to break the law, and trump expects somebody to break the law, in particular by simply denying asilic seekers an opportunity to get asylum in the united states, even though the law actually says they should have that opportunity. he doesn't want to let that happen. and clearly, he's looking for somebody to do that at dhs in spite of the law, which nielsen would not do. >> yeah. lee, as i mentioned, you're the lead attorney on trying to get families reunited. >> right. >> after they have been separated at the border. i have much more to discuss on that in a second, but just the news we have this morning that president trump has been talking about and pushing for dhs to reinstate the policy that led to that in the past few weeks. >> yeah. remarkable. i think remarkable on a lot of levels. first of all, it's illegal. we have a ruling saying it's unconstitutionally. politically, it wasn't just democrats and liberals who pushed back. it was virtually everyone in the country. i mean, laura bush's op-ed,
conservative reverends. it was everyone pushing back because everyone said look, we can have disagreements about macro immigration policy, but we can't take 2 and 3-year-olds away from their mothers, they're screaming and ripping them apart. no one wants to see that. i don't think that's a partisan issue, actually. >> lee, one person who didn't want to see it anymore was president trump himself. i know, add this to exhibit we have lost count on him speaking, you know, speaking on both sides of an issue, but on the day he signed the executive order ending family separations, he said this. we're going to have strong, very strong borders, but we're going to keep the families together. i don't like the sight or feeling of families being separated. that's from the president himself, max. and now he's pushing for that to go back into place. >> i think what this points to is the fact that the problem here is not the personnel. the problem is the policy, which was not set by secretary
nielsen. it was dictated from the white house by trump and by stephen miller, and they're unhappy with the policy implementation because the policy makes no sense. they had this cruel and barbarous policy of separating children from their parents, but they're upset it creates bad news coverage. what a surprise. now they're back to apparently if the reporting can be believed, back to considering that separation policy. >> i also remember, as you said stephen miller's name, i also remember i believe when you were very publicly making a split from the conservatives, the republican party, you had mentioned stephen miller as one of the reasons why. with how this is all going right now, and how this is all progressing right now, i mean, i don't know, if stephen miller is effectively the acting dhs secretary at this point as he's pushing policy, what does that mean? >> i think it's a sign of just how nativist and xenophobic this administration is that this 33-year-old nativist fanatic is the person dictating immigration
policy for the united states. remember, he has a long and odious agenda, which includes repealing birthright citizenship, includes cutting levels of legal immigration, not just illegal. he wants to deportment dreamers. he has a monstrous agenda. the only thing i would say to the administration is if they're serious about this, nominate stephen miller to be the next dhs secretary. take the puppet master behind the curtain. >> seriously? >> he ought to take responsibility and ownership of this policy instead of manipulating things from behind the white house. put him out there and have him speak and see if he can get confirmed. i don't know that he can get confirmed even by a republican senate, but if he can't, that tells you something about how awful this policy is. >> let's talk about another big thing that just came out. the government now says it could take up to two years to identify the children that have -- all of the children who have been separated from their families as part of this policy. that could be thousands more. you have been in court.
this is coming out from the court battle that you have had with the government over this. i just want to be clear. that's thousands more on top of the 2800 children who have so far been reunited, that you guys have been working to get reunited. why is it two years? why could it be two years? >> we don't believe it should be two years. that's a proposal by the government friday night. it's shocking. we're going to push back. there is no way they would need two years to identify the families. i mean -- >> is it just because they -- i'm going out there right now, but because they literally took no information on these children when they were releasing them to sponsors or other people? >> they're admitting that and saying they need two years to find the families. we agree they took no information, but even so, they could do it in months, not years. we'll be pushing back. what ultimately this shows is they're still not prioritizing this issue.
at least the reunification. >> but a judge told them they had to. >> right, so that's why we'll be pushing back. at the end of the day, the united states government can get tasks like this done if they treat it with urgency. they're basically saying these two and 3-year-olds if it takes two years to get them back to their parents, honestly. >> here's your cat-5 hurricane, kirstjen nielsen. get them back together. work on immigration policy with congress if you want it changed, for sure. get the kids back together with their parents, if as a judge has decided, they were split apart from their parents under questionable circumstances at best. >> right, and as max said, you know, this is not just a cruel policy. it's gratuitous. when i talk to the families after they're reunited, i always ask them, would you have come anyway if you had known this was going to happen. they shrug and say what choice did i have? if my child was going to be killed there, this is the lesser of the evil. we're really not accomplishing
anything by taken them away. it's as cruel as anything i have seen in 26 years doing this work. >> i have so many more things to say. thank you both for being here. coming up for us, never. that's when the white house chief of staff says the democrats are going to see president trump's tax returns. is that just bluster or does the white house have a case when it comes to trump and his taxes? plus, attorney general bill barr is preparing to face lawmakers on capitol hill amid calls for the full release of the mueller report. we'll have a preview of what is sure to be an explosive hearing as bill barr faces lawmakers. d it turns out they want me to start next month. she can stay with you to finish her senior year? of course she can! [ laughter ] [ groaning ] hey! want to drive? really?
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the answer, at least according to his acting chief of staff, is never. mick mulvaney dismissing the new request from congressional democrats for trump's returns as, quote, a political stunt. >> keep in mind, they knew they're not going to get these taxes. they know what the law is. they know that one of the fundamental principles of the irs is to protect the confidentiality of you and me and everybody else who files taxes. >> to be clear, you believe democrats will never see the president's tax returns? >> oh, no, never. nor should they. that is not going to happen, and they know it. this is a political stunt. >> let's go to cnn's manu raju on capitol hill for much more on this. so what now? >> democrats are bracing for what could be a prolonged legal fight. they believe that the law is on their side, as the republicans say this is just an effort to weaponize the irs to go after the president. they say there's a clear legislative purpose to seeking the tax returns and they cite a
1924 law saying that the ways and means committee chairman can request anyone's tax returns, including the president of the united states. but that statute is largely untested in court. this is something that's going to play out over time. yesterday, democrats on the sunday shows also pushed back on what mick mulvaney said, including adam schiff, who said the law is on their side. >> there is no legal ground for them here. the statute says the irs shall provide these returns to the congress upon request. when the republicans ask similarly for returns when they were running that committee, including the returns of the obama for america organization, he gave no explanation for why he sought those returns or how many returns he was seeking or what organizations. he just asked and the irs says you can have them because we shall provide them. i think that's how it's going to end up here too. >> now, the ways and means committee chairman richard neal who has requested the tax
returns has set a wednesday deadline to get a response from the treasury department, but we're not expecting that to be fulfilled. so the question is what next? expect more letters, expect potential legal action. this is going to take some time to play out, no one of course knows how this ends. >> no kidding. especially on this one, manu. but there's also an important scheduling update for everyone. the attorney general, bill barr, he's scheduled to testify before congress tomorrow. at the very same time, he's still deciding on working through what parts and how much of the mueller report congress is going to see. >> yeah, tuesday and wednesday will be big days to understand what is happening with the mueller report because bill barr is coming before the house appropriations committee, then the senate appropriations committee. he's going to be testifying about the budget request for the justice department, but democrats and republicans will have a lot of questions about the status of the mueller report, how he's dealing with the redactions, the demands of democrats not to redact
anything, and the decision he made not to charge the president with obstruction of justice. we'll see if he shines any light on all of that, but first time he's answering questions since putting out that four-pay letter. >> that's going to be not to miss. great to see you. joining me right now, "new york times" national security correspondent matt rosenberg, and cnn legal analyst and former federal prosecutor elie honig. good to see you guys. matt, let's talk about barr. what is barr going to face tomorrow, do you think? >> he's going to get questions. he's up there on capitol hill to testify about the justice department's budget, but they're going to ask him -- >> sure he is. let's see how many questions he gets about the budget. >> i imagine he's going to say i'm still working on it and you'll get it when you get it. look, there are a number of outstanding questions about secret grand jury testimony, will that be redacted. classified information, other kind of privileged information. how aggressive, how expansive will he be in redacting.
then the question of president trump's written answers to the special counsel's questions. is that something the public is going to see? that remains an outstanding question. we'll find out sooner or later, in probably the next week or two. >> those are important questions. it's almost like at this point a lot of people forget about the written answers the president sent in. it could be the most illuminating if those would be released. elie, what questions if you're up there or have the ear of the lawmakers, what questions do you want answered from barr tomorrow? >> i got lots. i'll limit it. >> exactly. by the way, he's got a yellow legal pad. >> first of all, i focus on mueller's summaries. we know robert mueller did his own summary. i would ask why didn't you produce those and will you produce them now? i focus on the obstruction, as matt said. y look, you made a call on obstruction? did robert mueller ask you to make your call or do you think he intended that for congress?
also, bill barr has been prejudiced about this case from the start. i mean this in the literal sense that he prejudged it. before he became attorney general, he referred to so-called collusion, sarcastically, and called mueller's obstruction theory asinine. i would ask him, you said those things. didn't you in effect prejudge this case before you ever came into office? and i have many more, but let's leave it with those. >> those are the top lines. matt, what does -- i don't know, what does the transparency debate do? what does it mean for all of the trump white house officials who faced some of these extensive interviews with the special counsel. john king had great reporter that there are a lot of people who face the special counsel who are very nervous, not about what they said, really, about russia or anything like that, but of the stories they told about the president. so transparency, what could it mean for them? >> i mean, look, i imagine there are some people who went in there and said things that are
not -- at least the president himself is not going to take as complementary and may differ from things they said in public. that's not a good thing in the public eye. totally unsurprising this has become a huge partisan issue. we have heard reports now that people on mueller's team aren't happy with barr's summary. democrats have seized on those. republicans are saying there's. nothing to look at here. i suspect there's something in the middle, and there are going to be people in the white house, in the administration, maybe outside, who said things they don't necessarily want to see public. >> yeah. it's all -- it might not change anyone's view of it since it's so partisan and so divided, but it's more information, none the less. and the more information the better. there is the other issue manu was getting to about the president's tax returns. you have what's happening in congress. they're looking for his federal tax returns. then his acting chief of staff saying democrats are never going to see the tax returns despite their efforts. in addition to that, now you have new york state is making a
related but different play when it comes to trump's tax returns. introducing a bill today in the state legislature that would allow essentially new york tax officials to hand over state tax returns basically anybody's, to leaders of these key congressional committees. where are you on this? is any of this going to work? >> now there's two avenues for democrats to get trump's tax returns. there's the existing federal avenue, and now if this new york statute passes, it will be a second way around it. i think the federal law is good enough. i think it's pretty straightforward. i think mick mulvaney is straight up wrong when he says the law is against the house ways and means committee. whenever you're doing a legal analysis, you have to start with the words of the law itself, the statute itself. this statute says shall furnish to ways and means. shall furnish is not negotiable. it's not discretionary. it means shall. i think the democrats have the better of the argument there. what we heard from the republicans in the administration is, well, it's
unprecedented. sure, because every president back to nixon has turned over their taxes so there's never been any occasion. the other response is, it's political in motivation. no doubt it is. but the law doesn't really care. if the law says shall furnish, the law doesn't say shall furnish but only if we think the reasons are good or bad. i think it's a strong argument under the federal law. now the state law in new york state would give a second bite at the same apple, basically. >> regardless, still a long road to get there. really appreciate it. we also have a quick reminder for you. you can catch senator kiersten gillibrand in a live cnn presidential town hall moderated by erin burnett, tomorrow night, 10:00 eastern, right here on cnn. >> still ahead for us, cory booker is now the latest 2020 democrat to reveal his fund-raising haul in the first quarter. where does he stack up against the other candidates? should his rivals be worried? be right back. billions of mouths.
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all outraising booker at this point. what does it mean, though? joining us, arlette saenz. there's a quote from booker, i think it was before the numbers came out, that was telling. where he says the following, i think this election is not going to be decided by money. what are you hearing? >> well, cory booker yesterday said that he feels incredible and that they surpassed the goal that they had set for themselves. but these figures certainly lag behind those numbers that other democratic presidential candidates have posted. you have bernie sanders and beto o'rourke, who raised more in their first 24 hours than cory booker did in his entire first quarter. kamala harris, who entered the race a few weeks before cory booker, raised more than double what cory booker raised. so while this $5 million figure shows, yes, cory booker can keep the lights on, run a campaign with this money, he's just not the fund-raising heavyweight that others in the race are,
particularly in the area of grassroots fund-raising, seen as a metric of enthusiasm. booker is not the last one to announce his numbers. we'll be hearic from more candidates over the next week. >> and still always the caveat we add with these segments, it's still early and still a long way to go. still an important measure to be taken nonetheless. thank you so much. i want to turn to a disturbing story out of louisiana. three historically black churches in the same rural parish burned to the ground over the past two weeks. authorities do not think these fires were accidental. now the governor is asking for the public's help to find out who might be targeting black churches and why. athena jones is here with more. what are you learning? >> three black churches in st. landry's parish in south central louisiana, in the heart of what you call cajun or creole country. about 30 miles north of lafayette. fires set in the middle of the night, so there were no injuries, but all of them taking place under suspicious circumstances. the fire marshal saying
suspicious elements were found at each fire. and so that's going to be thoroughly investigated. we know the fbi and officials from the bureau of alcohol, tobacco, firearms, and explosives are helping with this investigation. they have had an increased law enforcement presence at churches just yesterday, this past sunday. this is, of course, very concerning to this area. it's not clear that this was racially motivated but these are three black churches and we know the importance that the black churches had to the black community, especially during the civil rights movement. but ever since as well. we had various instances of these churches being targeted. you'll go all the way back to 1963 with the birmingham church bombing of the four little girls and in 2015, the charleston church shooting in charleston that was a hate crime. we don't yet know how these are linked, bit they appear to be suspicious. we did hear from a pastor from a greater union baptist church, one of the churches in appaloosa. listen to what he had to say.
>> quite naturally, something like this would shake us up. i'm very concerned. but i'm very optimistic because god, our faith is in god. and no matter what happens, i feel like this is his plan. this is god's plan. he allowed it. and i believe he brought me here. he's going to bring me through this. >> now, some extended family members i have spoken to say they don't know what comes next. they're very concerned. >> fear while they're trying to figure out what has done this. the fear of what's next. >> the fire marshal saying it's imperative for the citizens of this community to figure out who caused these, who set these. >> that's why they're putting out a call for help. these were set in the middle of the night. thanks, athena. >> coming up for us, now that dhs secretary kirstjen nielsen is out, only two women remain in trump's cabinet. does the white house have a
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this week marks the tenth annual women in the world summit, a global gathering highlighting the work of women leaders in really every industry across the world. with a record number of women in congress, six women vying for the white house, more women standing up linking arms and demanding their voices be heard
than ever before, is this year mission accomplished i say facetiously. joining me now is athetina brow. great to have you here. >> good to be here. >> ten years on, what's the report card? what's changed? what remains the same? >> we are in the middle of a great search. there's no doubt about that. since the clinton loss, trump came in, me too, all of that, there is actually now a big surge. we just saw lori lightfoot win in chicago. first woman, first black woman, first gay woman. things are really changing, which is fantastic. plus you mentioned the great surge in congress. there's also still, though, an ongoing fight. you have to keep on with the vigilance. that's really what women in the world has done since 2009. i mean, we have really been out there talking about sexual harassment, about the fact there are so few women on boards. the fact that the ceos in the fortune 500 have actually gone down, as a matter of fact, this
last year. it's not all as rosy as it seems. and i actually think, i mean, our theme this year is can a woman save the world? i kind of really think that is what we're talking about now because we have seen such a lot of kind of masculine mayhem and crazy macho malfeasance in the last year or so with all the kind of second wave of me too stuff, with robert kraft and all of these guys. and then, of course, you know, trump cabinet only has two women in it. >> with kirstjen nielsen now pushed out, let's be honest, there's only two women left in the trump cabinet. what does that mean to you? what does that tell you? >> it's pitiful. we're looking at a cabinet that looks like 1962. you look at all these white men of a certain age. that's what we saw in the cabinet hearings that was so stunning. all of those white men on the judiciary, on the republican senate judiciary. and they had to rent a woman to ask the questions of christine blasey ford. this doesn't look anything like
america. that is the truth. >> and to your point, you talk about the theme of can women save the world? your opinion piece that you wrote, maybe a preamble to exactly this theme. for our viewers. it's titled what happens when women stop leading like men. i want to read a part that stuck out to me. you wrote, it's past time for women to stop trying to cram themselves into outdated nasa space suits designed for an alien masculine physique. we can soothe our world and maybe even save it. but what is it that you're seeing in some women leaders right now that gives you this hope? >> well, look at the prime minister of new zealand, for instance. jacinda ardern. she was a young woman world leader who was famous simply really for having a baby in office. then the massacre happened at the christchurch mosque, and in this instinctive way that had a terrific womanly empathy, she
donned the hijab and said, you know, spoke her solidarity with the muslims. it was a remarkable moment. women across new zealand followed suit. we saw eric countries projecting her image on monuments. i think it was a uniquely female moment. >> do you see those qualities in the women running for president right now? >> what i like about the women running for president, they're all so different. that's a huge step up right there. hillary clinton said to me in my podcast recently, she said they have one up on me in that there's more of them. and therefore, they're not supposed to carry the entire burden of gender. don't forget, hillary, particularly in 2008, was so anxious to show she was a commander in chief. the whole emphasis was i'm not womanly, i'm commander in chief. >> in '08, she ran away from it. >> i think women don't have to run away from it anymore. we're seeing in somebody for instance like nancy pelosi, you know, she has this masculine mine, but at the same time,
muscular mind, but she has this kind of womanly ability to kind of almost be maternal or grand maternal. she has grandchildren. with her caucus, and against the republicans. she just simply says calm down, all of you. which is very much a kind of woman's role at home. >> i do want to ask you about not a woman, a man. joe biden. i heard you last week say that you applaud his accomplishments but you think maybe time is up for joe biden, and you say maybe now is not -- he shouldn't run. time has passed for him. after answering to several women, saying that they were uncomfortable in how he had touched them over time, he said he regretted it. then on friday, he made a joke about it. let me play it for our viewers. watch this. >> i just want you to know, i had permission to hug lonie. he gave me permission to touch him. >> where are you on this? i mean --
>> the audience laughed. >> right. >> i just think that it's a mine field right now of sort of liberal parties and flash mobs. >> is it joe biden doesn't get it, or is it people, the pendulum swing too far and joe biden is trying to make a joke? >> i personally think it almost doesn't matter which is so. the fact is, it is. it is like that now. this is the terrain in which any candidate has launched himself. and if you're not nimble with that, if it's not your language, if it's not your cultural ease, it's going to get very difficult for you to not keep on falling afoul of that. >> it's a really interesting way of putting it. great to see you. >> the summit is going to be wonderful. oprah, we have brie larson. wom womenintheworld.com. >> we'll be right back. funds directly to investors. and now we have zero account fees for brokerage accounts.
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israel. tomorrow voters are heading to the polls and the incumbent primes benjamin netanyahu is facing his biggest challenge and he's embroiled in a corruption scandal, huge corruption scandal marking the first time a sitting israeli leader has come so close to criminal charges and in the face of this netanyahu is upping the ante shocking voters and promising to say he's going to
complicate further peace talks even further. what are you hearing there right now? >> reporter: well, prime minister benjamin netanyahu has made a sharp turn to the right. he did it in 2515 when he said there would be no palestinian state under him on the eve of the elections and talking about annexing the settlement blocks and all of the isolated settlements as well. netanyahu has been a mainstay of politics and has pulled oall of israeli likud politics to the right. netanyahu was in jerusalem and he's behind in the polls and he urged everyone to bring his family and friends or his right wing government is in trouble. so that gives you a sense of netanyahu's strategy here. he's playing the underdog card, essentially the votes and the polls show a very tight race here and netanyahu is trying to play the underdog race to make sure all the right wing votes go
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if you can even me of it, another major setback for boeing right now. the world's largest airline american airlines says it's now extending flight cancellations for its 737 max fleet into june. the u.s. grounded those boeing jets indefinitely following two deadly crash nez ethiopia and indonesia, and those crashes were less than five months apart and a total of 346 people died in those tragedies. the cause is still being investigated. cnn's business correspondent alison kosik is joining me now with more. what does this actually mean? >> what american is doing is being proactive and getting out ahead of this as much as we can saying we know we'll need to cancel the flights up until june 5th so we'll let everybody know now. that works out to about 90 flights every day through june. thousands of flights through the next couple of months. sounds like a lot but a fraction
of what american flies. they fly 7,000 flights a day on average. originally though americans' cancellations were just through april so these cancellations are being extended. in a statement american explained why it's doing this saying in an effort to provide more certainty and avoid last-minute flight disruptions, american has extended cancellations through june 5th. this will result in the cancellation of approximately 90 flights each day bases on our current schedule. this, of course, is happening because of the grounding of those 737 max 8 planes. at this point though american is saying, look, we're waiting for information from the faa, from the department of transportation and other regulatory bodies before we resume these flights because as of march 13th they have been grounded indefinitely after these two fatal crashes. now boeing says it is working on the software update for the max 8, but here's the thing. it seems to be lasting a lot longer than first anticipated. >> that's for sure. they have been ground since early march. >> right. >> and now they are cutting production. what -- what -- i mean, it's
been hitting boeing but how hard is it hitting boeing? >> right now stock is tanking another 4%. it's hitting quite hard. >> production has been cut. tomorrow we're getting orders and deliveries for the first quarter. it's expected to be bad for boeing. >> that's a bad situation that they are dealing with. >> yeah. >> and forget boeing's stock price, what it means for these families is even more important. >> good to see you, alison. >> "inside politics" with john king starts right now. >> thank you, kate, and welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. thanks for sharing your day with us kirstjen nielsen is out at homeland security as president trump's frustration escalates and hardliners seize control of border policy. secretary nielsen is set to say the president is unhinged and looking to look to the law to get his way. team trump is waving off