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sure. oren lieberman, thank you very much. oren lieberman joining us from tel aviv. thanks for watching. follow me on twitter and instagram @wolf blitzer. tweet the show at cnn sit room. erin burnett out front starts right now. where is the transparency? plus bernie sanders, democratic socialist says he's a millionaire. this, coming from the same man who rails against millionaires and billionaires and trump versus nadler, decades-long feud that started with name calling at a trump property in new york city, and it's back. let's go out front. >> good evening, i'm erin burnett. dodge barr? bill barr refusing to give
answers, even on whether the white house has seen the mueller report. that's a simple thing. yes or no? barr could not give a straight answe answer. >> did the white house seen the report since you released your summarizing letter, has the white house seen it since then? have they been briefed of the contents beyond what was in your sum arizing letter to the judiciary committee? >> i've said what i'm going to say about the report today. i've issued three letters about it. i'm not going to say anything more about it until the report is out and everyone has a chance to look at it. >> that's a pretty simple thing, yes or no to it. the answer that he gave, such that it was, appears to contradict what barr said clearly to congress in a letter 11 days ago. quote, there are no plans to submit the report to the white house for a privilege review. so, right, there were either plans that then happened or it
didn't happen. again, there should be an answer. then did the white house see it before it was released? barr says no. >> did they not tell you in any way shape or form why they declined in reviewing your 3 1/2-page letter? >> i don't recall whether that was related to me. >> you would think that they would recall whether or not he was going to see the 22 months of work before it was released to the world. does the mueller report exonerate the president, as he explicitly claimed or does it not, on obstruction of justice? that's what barr quoted the mueller report as saying. that should be pretty simple.
>> your memo stated, quote, while this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him. yet president trump has publicly stated this report is a complete and total exoneration. can you tell us who is factually accurate? >> i will be in a position, as i said, within a week to release the report. i'm not going to discuss it further until after the report is out. >> manu raju is live on capitol hill. there were straight answers to pretty simple questions. democrats were angry about what they heard from barr today. >> indeed they were, erin. the house speaker told me that the attorney general has, quote, no business redacting informations that not national security related, jerry nadler, house judiciary chairman, made it very clear he plans to issue the subpoena for a full mueller report and the underlying
evidence. once that redacted report is turned over to capitol hill within a week's time, as the attorney general said today, and, erin, the house intelligence committee chairman adam schiff told me moments ago he has requested all the counter intelligence information that mueller's team gathered as part of that investigation. he wants to see whether or not there was any information that was gathered to show whether the president or his team was compromised in any way and also adam schiff raising concerns about bill barr's handling of this, saying he's simply trying to protect the president. >> i think that's a betrayal of what he promised during his confirmation. but it is what he was hired to do, which was to protect the president. the president wanted his own roy cohen and apparently he has one. but it is deeply concerning. >> reporter: republicans are taking an opposite approach. they're aligning themselves with bill barr, saying that he is following the regulations and putting out as much information as possible.
the senate judiciary committee chairman reiterating what he said to me last week, that he doesn't see any need for providing this information. lindsey graham saying -- getting the redacted report is good enough and the house minority leader, kevin mccarthy, also said to me why give the full report to congress? because he believes it could ultimately leak out. nevertheless, the democrats in the house are the ones in the majority with the subpoena power and, erin, they plan to use it. >> thank you very much, manu. i want to go now to democratic congressman cartwright of the house appropriations committee that questioned bill barr today. you were in the room. your impression? >> he is in an uncomfortable position, bill barr is. it was his first time testifying on capitol hill since the release of the mueller report and his summary of that. there were a lot of unsatisfied members of congress questioning him. i, myself, was questioning him about their decision to go after the health care law and even in
that, i was left unsatisfied because i asked him, you know, did you talk that over with mick mulvaney? did you talk it over with president trump about your own feeling that that was a no go? the position that we should invalidate the patient protection and affordable care act? he didn't want to answer that. and he didn't want to tell me whether he was invoking executive privilege in not telling me. so i demanded that he tell us and that he tell us in writing. >> and so it seems like again and again, he doesn't want to answer those questions. he did say we're going to get the mueller report within a week. so presumably by, what, next monday or tuesday? there will be redactions, grand jury details among them. the report is 400 pages. what's your impression? are we getting 200 of that? what are we going to see? >> you're not talking to an expert in the kind of report that a special counsel generates but my guess is that there will
be significant redactions. he outlined four different categories of information in the report that he wants to redact, including grand jury evidence. what i'm hoping is that he does keep it to a minimum. he has said that. attorney general barr has said he wants to keep it to a minimum. he knows, as the rest of america knows, that the more he blacks out, the more people will be screaming and asking further questions. >> all right. i want to play an exchange that barr had with one of your republican colleagues. it was a pretty strong allegation in here. so let me play it. >> members of congress have said they intend to ignore the public redactions and leak the full report. would that give you pause if that were to occur? >> someone is going to leak the full report? >> that's what we -- >> that would be unfortunate, because, you know, there's grand jury information in there that, upped the law, has to be redacted. >> all right. so, the republican minority
leader kevin mccarthy added that congress should not get the unredacted report at all because you guys, democrats, are going to leak it. what's your response? >> as i said before people are going to be screaming about it, i didn't limit that to democrats. we've got democrats and republicans. on the appropriations committee, we like to say, there are democrats in congress and republicans in congress and then there are appropriators. and congressman graves is a republican, but he is an appropriator, above all, and we like to do things together. and i know that's a shock to many people. >> we hope there's more of it. i want to bring in this conversation john dean and carrie cordero. john dean from watergate and carrie cordero. bill barr said he would provide explanations for his redactions and there was concern he wouldn't do that. how big of a deal is that?
>> it's important because it will actually give congress some information upon which to make decisions about things they might want to challenge. so, for example, if he marks information that is redacted because it's classified, maybe that's the kind of information that the intel committees would say specifically they want to see but wouldn't be information that congress would subpoena, information that he remarks as 6e, protected by grand jury rule 6e, that would be the type of information that the judiciary committee may consider going to a court. it could be very useful for members of congress to decide which information they'll fight about and which they're not. >> so, what do you make of the fact that barr refused to directly answer so many questions? including have you talked to the white house about this? saying he doesn't recall while mueller didn't look at his summary. that seems absurd to a layperson. >> it's what we called during watergate stonewalling. it's a classic example, where
you don't really respond in a responsive way to questions. and it gave -- it put that into the political vocabulary. he is emphasizing it. he was really an uncooperating witness. he is casting suspicion on what he's doing. i think it's not really the wise route but he's clearly protecting the president. >> and today barr said that mueller's team didn't have any role in drafting barr's summary, no role. and declined to review it before it came out. 22 months, 400 pages. mueller's team cares a whole lot about how that report was first shown to the public, right? and yet, again, we heard that there was no reason, he doesn't remember why. let me play that again, carrie. >> did they not tell you in any way, shape or form, why they declined to participate in reviewing your 3 1/2-page letter? >> i don't recall whether that was related to me.
>> is that possible, i don't recall why mueller didn't look at my summary? >> i don't know what the teern general remembers and what he doesn't remember. if the special counsel decided not to review the letter and didn't give the office of the attorney general a reason i think it's the wise decision on the part of the special counsel. he knew that either way this letter would be perceived politically. there's no upshot for the special counsel to review it and then have there be some disagreement between them. >> disagreement or endorsement. >> it could be perceived as an endorsement if he recommended changes or didn't recommend changes. if it's the way the attorney general described it, it's the wisest call by the special counsel, which i'm not surprised by. it kept him out of that letter, which did become very political. the attorney general has been beat up over that letter since he issued it a couple of weeks ago and in the ensuing time he has been trying to hold back. >> when you hear john dean describe the attorney general
today as a noncooperating witness, of stonewalling, that sounds pretty consistent with what you are expressing. >> it's pretty hard to go through what john dean went through in his life and not be a little jaded about these things. i have to say, i took a little encouragement at the time when the attorney general said that he would be willing to work with chairman nadler about finding a way to reveal at least to chairman nadler what was redacted. whether you take that with a grain of salt, i suspect mr. dean does. >> yeah, go ahead. >> i'm hopeful that happens. that somebody like the speaker, the chairman of the house judiciary committee should be shown that kind of material in camera, so to speak. in other words, not publicly. so at least they know and can verify. otherwise, it's going to be a total sham. >> do you think that barr knows and believes and understands the import that he is a part of a moment in history? >> i'm sure he does. he has been around long enough.
he helped ease a former president out of a real serious problem called iran-contra by endorsing the pardons that would make it go away for bush one and solved a real nasty problem for a president. so he has been there. he has been around the block. >> all right. thank you all very much. next, new details tonight on the democrats' strategy to get the full mueller report. trump's treasury secretary on the defense tonight, admitting the agency's lawyers discussed trump's taxes with the white house. >> our legal department has consulted with the white house. >> and he's railed against them. >> billionaires and millionaires have poured hundreds of millions of dollars into the political process. >> and now we know bernie is one of them. this is not a bed...
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house opens preliminary impeachment hearings. joining us now. i appreciate your time. you're basically saying to know what happened here you have to get all the grand jury testimony and that's secret. and that's pretty much secret no matter what you do or say except -- >> except. >> when there's a related proceeding. and when they began impeachment proceedings it counted as exactly that, a formal proceeding so they were able to get it, full report, all the underlying grand jury evidence and that was crucial in the presidential demise of president nixon. nadler says he's doing enough, even though it's not formal, it's enough to get it. is he right? >> he has a harder row to hoe than we did in watergate because speaker pelosi and chairman nadler have declined to do a full impeachment inquiry. we were able to structure raw grand jury evidence submitted to the house judiciary committee because there was a formal
impeachment investigation already under way and the key thing is the federal rules that limit grand jury secrecy have an exception for matters preliminary to or in conjunction with a judicial proceeding. we argued that an actual impeachment inquiry is a judicial proceeding. >> is a judicial proceeding. >> or enough like a judicial proceeding. he stopped short of that, i think the chairman has a tougher job. >> he is stopping short of that. what i'm doing right now, to be clear to the viewer, is not a formal impeachment proceeding, not even close. because i'm looking at things that could one day be it's good enough and you're saying it may not be good enough? >> it may not be. there's an argument he's making which is this is preparatory to. >> one preparatory too many?
>> yeah. >> he has made it clear and he's still saying he may never do impeachment proceedings. he's saying i don't know what i don't know. until i don't know what i don't know, i don't know if i should do impeachment proceedings. >> that's a political judgment that he's making. in watergate, the same sort of issue came up. the house didn't start out saying we're going to impeach richard nixon. they said there's enough out there of concern that we ought to do a formal inquiry into whether there are grounds for impeachment. the house, at the moment, is trying to have it both ways, trying to get the otherwise secret information without making that -- taking that first step. >> for some reason, both chairman nadler and house speaker nancy pelosi just feel that that's a step too far? politically, they think it's a really bad idea. nancy pelosi has said trump is not worth impeaching, sort of a separate point but saying don't worry about it, because he's not even worth it. why do you think that could be a mistake?
>> it's a question of your own priorities, as matters of congress. i did an op-ed weeks ago right before nancy pelosi came out with her bizarre statement that donald trump was not worth an impeachment inquiry. and i said you have to bite the bullet and exercise your responsibilities to look to see whether or not there's enough for impeachment. i think they've made a decision that politically the 2020 election will not turn on whether or not they've been able to muster enough support to go after donald trump for a possible impeachment. they want to change the narrative. and that's a pure political judgment. i think from my standpoint as a one-time constitutional lawyer and prosecutor, it's the wrong judgment. >> they've got to do it. they've got to launch it and it has to be formal? >> they have to confront the dilemma one way or another. if they're not willing to do a formal impeachment inquiry, they have to run the risk or they're not going to get that underlying grand jury information. >> we'll see if they are willing to do that. appreciate your time, thanks for being here.
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as they would and as i believe would be normal. that is not taking direction from the white house. i don't view that as interference. it was not specific to the president's -- anything related to the president's tax returns other than the expectation of getting this request. >> so then what was it about? it raises the question, why is the white house playing any official role in the treasury department's decision to release the returns? it comes as democrats have given the irs, part of the treasury, until tomorrow to hand over six years of trump's tax returns. i'll go out on a limb here. it's not going to happen. mark preston, gloria borger. communications consultant. national press secretary for bernie sanders' 2016 presidential campaign and david urban, strategist for the trump campaign. so, gloria, the treasury and white house having conversations about this. at the least it does not look good. >> no, it doesn't look good. on the other hand you kind of
have to expect, to a certain degree -- and he made a point that this occurred before congressman neil's letter went to them. >> requesting the six years. >> requesting the tax returns. you have to presume that there were some conversations about it, but don't forget, we also know that the president was very interested in getting the chief counsel of the irs in place. and he said at one point, according to "the new york times" this is more important than getting the attorney general in place. so you know how much this was bothering the president and still bothers the president. but in the end it's going to be up to the courts. >> and chief counsel, simone, who has been confirmed, has done work for trump, fully disclosed. >> shocking, shocking! what a coincidence that they know each other. look, i think it definitely raises more than a few eyebrows that treasury and the white house lawyers were speaking. because the request goes to treasury. it's up to treasury to decide if
the tax returns should or should not be released. and so any well-meaning person could, should deduce why is treasury talking to the white house? why? what do they need to coordinate about? do they need to ask the white house what they're doing? why? why? i don't know. that's why they had the hearing today. we didn't get any answers today. tell us why, aaron. >> secretary mnuchin was very measured in his response. he was very precise in his language. and he talked about conversations between lawyers, the treasury lawyers and the white house counsel. >> not a conversation he had with the president. >> it wasn't the president and secretary mnuchin discussing the strategy on the release of his returns. it was two sets of lawyers talking about how it was going to be done, not out of the ordinary. >> so, there were some moments today, mark. >> that's an understatement. >> between the chairwoman, maxine waters and mnuchin, on him wanting to leave by the time
they said the hearing was going to be over. he said he had a meeting. let me play the exchange. >> if you wish to keep me here so that i don't have my important meeting and continue to grill me, then we can do that. i will cancel my meeting and i will not be back here. i will be very clear. if that's the way you would like to have this relationship. >> thank you. the gentleman, the secretary has agreed to stay to hear all of the rest of the members. please cancel your meeting and respect our time. who is next on the list? >> you're instructing me to stay here and i should cancel? >> no. you just made me an offer. >> no, i didn't make you an offer. >> you made me an offer that i accepted. >> i did not make you an offer. please dismiss everybody. i believe you're supposed to take the gavel and bang it. >> please don't instruct me as to how to conduct this committee. >> she made an offer and he accepted. he threw it out there and she
called his bluff. now what's interesting about this, he goes up to capitol hill and while he probably does have a very important meeting, he's also meeting with a co-equal branch of government and that's congress and, david, you spent many years in the united states senate as chief of staff for a senator by the name of arlen specter, who was very -- >> that wouldn't have gone so well. >> right. he would not have accepted that. >> glued him to the chair. we've seen a congress diminished level of congressional influence, certainly over the oversight of the administration. >> i would say, mark, to your point also, you saw matt whitaker, preview of this in the matt whitaker, telling chairman nadler, your light is on. i think you're over your time. secretary mnuchin may have been trying to replicate that in this case, but not a wise move from the committee, the chairwoman -- >> it came off as very -- >> oversight of your budget. >> republicans are not used to this. let's be honest about it. they had a republican house.
they had a republican senate. they have never had this kind of oversight. they've never been told what to do by a committee chairperson. and so they have to get used to this new life they are now living. >> i think they're well aware. they're getting enough subpoenas and lots of documents. there's a little attempt to pushback, maybe a little overaggressive pushback on the part of the secretary. >> i think it was con descending. congresswoman maxine water sts chair of the committee that has specific oversight over treasury. i do not think that is a battle or enemy for that matter that you want to make on the committee. >> at the least, yeah. >> yeah. and i find it so interesting that secretary mnuchin said he a meeting. hillary clinton went to testify for benghazi for 13-plus hours. god forbid had she told the committee she had a meeting. >> from the country of bahrain but he's saying bahrain, whatever country it might have been, fill in the blank, more
important than the united states congress? >> i'm fairly certain that the representative of the bahrain would delay the meeting and meet with m inform uchin tonight if he had to. >> any country would have. >> of course. >> he was over it. >> to be there 12 hours, asked and answered. >> he might have been performing for an audience of one. let's not forget that. let's not forget what donald trump thinks of maxine waters, calling her low iq and other name. >> whether secretary mnuchin was there for 12, 13, 14, 15 hours, he had not been dismissed. it was con descedescending, it rude. i hope he calls and apologizes. that was a pichlt ss-poor performance from the secretary today. >> i don't think it damaged the relationship with maxine waters. it was a bad place to begin with. i don't think it made things any worse. >> mnuchin tried to say also
that he's not afraid to lose his job over how he handled this. you can interpret it several different ways. let me play that exchange. it was also with chairman waters. >> what you are basically saying is you follow the law and you are not afraid you will be fired if, in fact, you release the returns? >> well, i'm not afraid of being fired at all. >> very good. >> i mean i can take that a lot of different ways. >> right. >> first of all if you're in the trump cabinet, you should be afraid of being fired, as almost everyone else has been. >> unless he thinks it's a good thing to be fired. >> in the end it will be up to the courts and not steve mnuchin. in terms of him personally, we know he has been on thin ice because of jerome powell. he recommended him to head the fed and the president is unhappy but he probably is not afraid of being fired because he has a nice life to go back to. and this, in the end, as i was saying before, is not going to be up to him. it's going to be up to the board. >> what do you interpret that
as, sly look on his face? i'm not afraid of being fired because i'm so rish rich, i don't care or i'm not afraid of being fired because it's a badge of honor? >> i think it's a little bit of both. i would go back to the trump administration and the folks who have since left and wondered if they were going to be fired, should they quit? how would it look if they were only there three, six, nine months? it doesn't matter anymore. it really doesn't. we're in a whole new paradigm, whole new world and you are going to be judged upon the actions that you take as an individual and not necessarily whether you were fired or whether you were embraced by the president or any politician at this point. people are going to judge you on who you are as a person i believe anyway. >> do you think that there are some view being fired by trump's senior people in there now that would be good for them, the way they're perceived by others? >> if you're there as a cabinet secretary as a senior position in the white house -- >> at this point. >> -- no. if they do, they should quit. go back to the anonymous letter.
>> that's right, "new york times." >> a billion years ago that we forgot about. >> august. >> my point is if you don't want to work for this president you can simply put your resignation in, spend more time with your family. there's lots of ways to go out. lots of people think it's a privilege to work for the administration, any administration. >> people thought they were doing it to protect the country from the president. that's the point of the op-ed. >> as a person who has worked for people, i feel as though i cannot carry out your mission, i should not be there. and i think that anyone who feels they cannot carry out the mission of this administration, which i think someone like secretary kierstjen nielsen, folks said she stayed there because she felt the need to be there. you put kids in cages. honestly, if you sign up to
carry out the mission of this administration, you are potentially signing up to cross boundaries you never thought you would cross before. if you don't feel like you should be there, go. >> thank you all very much. but you're staying with me because next, favorite punching bag on the campaign trail. >> millionaires. millionaires. millionaires. millionaires. >> do you know how happy he must have been when he found out he was among them? >> plus the history behind president trump and jerry nadler's public and equally personal feud. >> jerry nadler, who i've known, he has been fighting for me half my life. -guys, i want you to meet someone.
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symone. >> i do not work for bernie sanders and i'm neutral here in this presidential primary. i will say look i was talking with gloria in the makeup room and said we never said we didn't take money from millionaire, just not billionaires in 2016. i think the point here is i wonder how this plays, frankly, with a number of people in the progressive base. think about it. donald trump is someone who has championed himself as the little guy and he is a billionaire. i have to use quotes because we don't know. and they seem to have taken to his message. i don't know how much this will hurt senator sanders but the fact that he hadn't released his tax returns and we still had not seem them, what's he hiding? was he considered about being a millionaire? i would have come out and said yeah, we're making money. >> a normal message to say except for, gloria, maybe he remembered things like this.
>> uh-oh. >> billionaires and millions have poured hundreds of millions of dollars into the political process, supporting republican candidates and today is paypack time for them. the bulk of the benefits in this legislation go to large, profitable corporations and to millionaires and billionaires. well, my view is you don't give, as trump wants to, huge tax breaks to millionaires and billionaires. >> is that what he was worried about? >> it's a little discordant from his message, i would have to say. he will have to fine tune that a little bit. look, hillary clinton, who is a multimillionaire, was out there saying the wealthy ought to pay more. so is howard schultz. so are all these people. not donald trump. but he is going to have to explain this. look, he wrote two books. one of his books, i believe he got an advance for $800,000. he could say people like my message and that's why i got
this huge advance and they bought my book. symone is smiling. am i spinning this? but it is difficult for him to say capitalism is working for me and i think that's a bit of a problem. >> but not for the rest of you. >> yeah. >> there should be nothing wrong with it. he's right. right? and people want to buy it. and you become wealthy. and that should be something that this country celebrate. >> here is the rub in america, right? it's a dirty word to say that you're successful and that you go out and make money, right? it's a dirty word that he feels sullied by the fact that he as a millionaire. no, no, no. this is how you're made to be -- however, let's go back to be judged on the actions that you do as a person and not the perceptions that people cast upon you. he may be a millionaire. let's see how much money he gives away to charity. let's see how much he complains
about the taxes that he's writing. i have to write a big check to the irs. i was shocked by it. what am i going to do? i have to write the check. you have to do what you have to do. for him right now he will be careful not to look like someone -- >> perhaps he feels a little differently about the tax code. >> it's also important to know what his effective tax rate is. is he paying tax, ordinary income or has he done some tax planning, tax avoidance, consult with a lawyer? that would be the height of hypocrisy. >> if he pays a normal flat right like every other american, he pays whatever the rate is, i think there's less problem for him. if he had some smart tax lawyer say, here is how you shelter it, put it in a trust and do this and do that. >> as i emfas identities, all of which is perfectly legal. >> exactly. >> which is why we have an irs tax code the way we do. >> for bernie sanders it would be a problem. >> we're just pontificating and speculating. >> it's okay for the president. >> well, i think donald trump is somebody that has knowingly hid
his tax returns. i said it was a problem that he had not released his tax returns. >> they may both have the same reason, that they don't want the public to know their net worth. >> one too high and maybe one too low. >> this is something we'll see throughout the entire presidential primary, things will happen, whether people find out things, rrps do good investigative work. reporters will have to respond. i would venture to say this has been out here and i haven't seen anything from the sanders campaign. for me as a strategist looking in on it, that's problematic. >> mark, kirsten gillibrand will be here tonight for a town hall, part of the reason we're here. >> moderating. >> what are you looking to hear from her? >> very quickly, she has to have a breakout moment. by the end of may there will be more than 20 democrats who are
run i running for this democratic nomination. everyone needs to break out of the pact. no one has other than bernie sanders. that's due, in part, because of name i.d. she needs to break open. >> thank you all very much. coming up, that town hall will be tonight at 10:00 eastern right here live from washington. and next they are two of the most powerful men in washington and, wow, they have been at each other for decades. why? >> jerry nadler, i've been fighting him for many years. >> the president, as you can see, is a bully. plus, president trump is not on the ballot, but he is a dominant factor in a crucial election under way tonight. as we speak, it is too close to call.
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end. president trump tweeting those words this morning, reviving a decades long feud he's had with jerry nadler who, by the way, would be the person overseeing any impeachment proceedings and also represents trump's old district in new york city. jason carroll is "outfront" with more on the deeply bitter and personal rivalry. >> jerry nadler, who i have known, he's been fighting me for half my life.
>> the president, as you can see, is a bully. >> the on again, off again feud between tt president trump and jerrold nadler is back on. trump reigniting the rift in a series of tweets today. congressman jerry nadler fought me for years on a very large development i built on the west side of manhattan and now i'm dealing with congressman nadler again. some things never end. but hopefully it will all go well for everyone. only time will tell. >> trump administration -- >> nadler is the chairman of the house judiciary committee and has been at the forefront of democratic oversight efforts, including seeking information from 81 white house advisers and trump associates. his committee also has the power to launch impeachment proceedings. trump has called the efforts presidential harassment. according to "the washington post," trump complained about nadler at a gathering of republican lawmakers at the white house just last month who were there to talk trade. by all accounts, the bad blood
between the two began in the mid-1980s when trump was an ambitious real estate developer and nadler a new york assemblyman. >> thank you very much. >> the two butted heads over trump's controversial development plan for the west side of manhattan. lindza rosenthal was the aide. >> trump, it's always personal because that's the only way he can manage to get anywhere. jerry, it's like water off a duck's back. >> trump wanted to move a highway and build a skyscraper as part of his plan. a number of community activists and nadler who later became a congressman in 1992, vehemently opposed it. trump in true fashion got personal attacking nadler. the executive vice president of the trump organization at the time, barbara res, still remembers the nasty name calling. >> i would hear him refer to nadler as fat jerry or fat nadler. you could tell it was not a term
of endearment. it was clearly he did not like the guy. >> the name calling wasn't just behind closed doors. in 1995, trump defended the use of the insult to the new york daily news, saying he was trying to inspire nadler. to be honest with you, he's a walking time bomb, and if i can convince him to put himself not in great shape but in reasonable shape, i'm doing a great service to him and his family. nadler underwent gastric weight loss surgery in 2002. as for that real estate project, nadler cult off federal funds that would have allotted to be built as trump originally imagined. the highway was not moved but trump did build a number of residential condos and apartm t apartments bearing his name, although residents of the apartment voted to have trump's name removed after his election. those who know nadler say because he's had this long history with trump, who better
to know how to handle his personal insults. what seems clear given the history between them, neither seems likely to be the first to back down when facing each other. erin. >> all right, jason, thank you. and next, breaking news. the results of the israeli election are too close to call. we'll be right back. at fidelity, we make sure you have a clear plan
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now through april 14. it is too close to call in the israeli elections. prime minister benjamin netanyahu in the political fight of his life. exit polls show him neck and neck with benny gantz as he's trying for a fifth term as prime minister and a hugely, when you talk about investigations, he could be facing if he loses, this is a huge race for him, and of course, president trump has had a big role. oren liebermann is live from tel aviv in the early hours of the morning. still too close to call. what's the latest on the results? >> prime minister benjamin netanyahu spoke a short time ago and claimed an awesome victory, a great victory. not only his party but also for the right wing. he says he has the support of
the smaller right wing parties you need to form a governing coalition, and with that support, he would have the right-wing block even if his party isn't the biggest after the elections. that is why he was so confident. despite his rival, his former chief of staff, benny gantz, claiming his own victory just a short time earlier. we'll wait for the results to come in, and they're beginning to trickle in, but netanyahu claiming victory to the chants and cheers of his supporters. this despite the corruption investigations he faces. when you look at the situation of the world today, especially when it comes to washington, d.c., this is very much a golden age for netanyahu. president trump making it clear to israeli voters, the world really, it was netanyahu he would prefer to work with. gifting scores of gifts from recognition of israeli sovereignty in the golan heights to branding their guard core a terror organization. netanyahu taking some credit for that, saying that was at his request. he was more than happy to play
up his relationship with trump in the weeks and months of the campaign. trump seemed happy to have him do that. there's still a lot of results to come in, but it looks like benjamin netten uhue is claiming victory tonight. we'll have a better idea of the results. >> thank you. and thanks to all of you. i'll see you back here at 10:00 for the town hall with kirsten gillibrand. in the meantime, "ac 360" starts right now. >> good evening, the wait for robert mueller's report is almost over. the question is how much of it will we or congress actually get to see. today, attorney general william barr went before a house subcommittee and although the subject was the justice department budget, much of it centered on the special counsel's report. he said to epeck it in a week and he'll provide documentation for every redaction made. he made plenty of news, though all of it not to the liking of the democrats on the panel. he does not plan on seeking a court order to