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to save 30% on all the medications we carry. so go directly to petmeds.com now. attorney general william barr alleges the obama administration may have spied on the trump campaign. but offers no proof. sparking out rage among congressional democrats. brussels grants break for brexit. what the eu extension on the deadline will mean for theresa mays plan to get the u kurks out of europe. plus. netanyahus big win. he has allies and trump to thank for the victory. hello and welcome to the vuters joining us from the united states. and all around the world. i'm rosemary church. this is cnn "newsroom."
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in his second straight day on capitol hill the u.s. attorney general used a term that no doubt pleased supporters of president trump. while it out raged congressional democrats. william barr told lawmakers the trump campaign was spied on and his looking at whether unauthorized surveillance was done. we have the details. >> i think there's a spying did occur. yes. i think spying did occur. >> a stunning statement by attorney general. claiming that the fbi or intelligence agencies during the obama administration may have spied on the 2016 trump campaign. >> i think spying on a political campaign is a big deal. it's a big deal. >> barr later tried to clarify the claim. >> i'm not saying that improper surveillance occurred. i'm saying that i am concerned about it. and looking into it.
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that's all. >> while he stopped short of accusing anyone of breaking the rules, he suggested there may have been missteps among those in the upper ranges of the fbi. led by james comey. >> the extent there were issues at the fbi. i do not view it as a problem that's endemic to the fbi. there was probably a failure among a group of leaders there. at the upper echelon. >> a sharp rebuke from democrats. >> a chief law enforcement officer of our country is going off the rails. yesterday and today. he is attorney general of the united states of america. not the attorney general of donald trump. >> barr telling lawmakers he's looking into the origin of the fbi investigation into possible ties between 2016 presidential
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campaign and russian government. the investigation into the investigation already cause for celebration from the president. who repeatedly called for a probe like this. >> he's doing a great job. getting started ongoing back to the origin of exactly where this all started. because this was an illegal witch hunt and everybody knew it. what they did was treason. what they did was terrible. >> when it comes to special counsel mueller report. the president may not be as pleased. barr told lawmakers he will not sanitize it to protect trump. >> you will redact information to protect the reputation interest of the president? >> no. i'm talking about people in private life. >> okay. >> not public office. >> still barr faced another round of criticism for his decision to clear the president of obstruction of justice. >> they didn't exonerate the president. you did. and so i'm asking you whether you agree with mueller that there were difficult issues of
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fact making that assessment. >> that's not a question i can answer. >> admitting he didn't know if mueller wanted him to make the call. >> did he express expectation and interest in leaving the obstruction decision to congress? >> he didn't say that to me, no. >> he said the obstruction decision should be up to you? >> he didn't say that either. that's generally how the department of justice works. >> he still doesn't know if mueller agrees with it. >> did mueller support the conclusion? >> i don't know. whether he supported the conclusion. >> bill barr said that he will hopefully have a version of the mueller report ready for congress and the public next week. of course that will be a report that is full of redactions and certainly won't be enough to
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satisfy the democrats. >> cnn senior political analyst and senior editor. great to have you with us. >> thanks. nice to be here. >> let's look at the shocking and unsubstantiated claim from the attorney general. he thinks spying occurred on the trump campaign. by the fbi or intelligence agency. and he's investigating if it was unauthorized. where did this suddenly come from and what is driving this claim? >> first, this along with the way that barr handled the mueller report is almost instantly stamping him as the most partisan attorney general on the one most who views him himself a lawyer for the president rather than the country. since the water gate era. shet ld into the role for the president. where it's coming from is the president. and other conservative media out lets which argued for turning the tables and investigating the investigator. and now we see the attorney
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general although in some ways qualifying and trying to walk back later, putting it on the accusations. >> of course some critics suggested he's increasingly doing the political bidding oftd president. clearly you appear to agree with that. what is astounding is why a professional like himself would be doing that. >> look, you know by this point if you go into the trump administration, you know what you are signing up for. signing up for a president who according to jake tapper reporting a few days ago told border patrol agents to ignore the law. and then expect others around him to explain, justify and clean up until they which point they are no longer valuable or necessary. and they will be dismissed. so if you sign up for this, i think you have a good idea of what is ahead of you. and bill barr is has moved into
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this role quickly than many expected. but which perhaps they should have expected given his awareness of what he was letting himself in for. >> of course the president is thrilled that the toerp general is looking into the origin of the special counsel investigation. calling the mueller probe illegal and attempted coup and going as far as calling it treason. and continuing to falsely claim he was exonerated. on the issue of obstruction of justice. when the report was first released, he was commending it. what changed? or why is the the u.s. president using words like coup and treason? >> that's a separate question. what's changed is the indication from the leaks to the various media out lets from investigators or people who have spoken to the investigators that the attorney general summation. he doesn't call it summary. may have been overly positive to
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the president and the final report may have more kind of curve balls in it. for him. so he's looking to discredit it. the language he uses is i think part of coup and treason. is really part of his over all effort to disqualify and discredit any institution that can threaten him. and convince the voters they are under siege. from shadow forces either 'elites or deep state. or undocumented immigrants and only trump can protect them. it's very consistent with the way he portrays himself and his movement. and will portray the choice in 2020. >> the attorney general also told congress once the mueller report is released we will understand why mueller could not make a decision on the question of obstruction. what does he mean by that? >> i think at this point people -- across the broad
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spectrum americans are tired of commentary. and read the report themselves. they don't know how much they'll get. it's highly likely democrats will end up in court. no matter what barr gives them. they will feel there's concern among democrats it will be redacted. what barr is suggesting is that the evidence is ambiguous and thus justifies his own conclusion. which is not what anyone asked for. the one thing we know from the letter is that the mueller report contains evidence on investigative evidence on obstruction that goes beyond what we have seen publicly. there's going to be new material in here. we don't know how much we'll see. initially i suspect we'll end up with a sustained legal battle between the house democrats and administration over what is available. >> finally i want to go to immigration. on wednesday the president said he is the one running the department of homeland security.
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when asked if he's adviser steven miller should run it given the new tough line on migrants appears to be driven by miller. what did those words from the president signal to you in the middle of the purge going on in the department? >> they reenforce the signal of the purge. which is however hard line the policy have already been and in almost every respect they have gone beyond any previous boundary. in terms of kind of being harsh policy. headlined by the child separation policy. however hard they have been the president is signaling between now and 2020 they are going to get harsher still. and it is remains striking to me that while there is some quibbling and hang ringing at the margins among republicans in congress about the extent of the purge. there really is no longer any organized resis tense to the direction on immigration and the republican party is strapped
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itself in for a ride towards being tattooed by the president as a party hostile to immigrants and demographic change in general. that's an enormously ko consequential bet. >> always so much to cover. and you do it so well. thank you for your analysis. appreciate it. >> we are following breaking news from sudan. activist circulating a statement from a reported military transitional counsel and announcing that president has been removed from power. now this comes after months of antigovernment protest. demanding an end to his 30 year rule. cnn joins us now from kenya. keeping a close eye on this breaking news story. what are you able to confirm? >> what i can tell you is what cnn has been reporting all
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morning. it is true. it appears to be some kind of change of guard. happening over in -- and as you know, the whole protest movement that began december 2018. has taken a huge toll on the people. the police and the authorities say 32 died. as well as doctors and other organizations. put it at 78. we know the demonstration against the rising cost of living. but this morning the military members of the military say that they would be removing him. we're in the moment waiting for another statement. also we gather -- i'm sorry. so much moving pieces in this story. the said that the situation any change should meet their demand.
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so we're in this sort of fluid position. when we don't know the whereabouts for example. there's talk about arrest being made and some talk about holding people the army. the followers responsible for their several deaths that happened during this latest sit in which began saturday. april 6. the catalyst of course we the army joined with the protestors and massive division started appearing. what was to a loyal army. he came in in power in a coup himself. 1989. president in 1993. and the moment we are watching events closely to see what will come out. >> right. thank you so much for that live report. a close eye on that story from sudan. we'll come back to you with updates. >> let's move to brexit. british prime minister has a
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another six months to try to get a deal approved. the european union granted her another brexit extension until october 31. she's confident she can get a deal through parliament. staying in the european union for another six months is likely to turn even more of her fellow conservatives against her. european commission president says the media and members have become too focussed on brexit. >> i do rather regret the fact we only talk about brexit. i wrote the european press. brexit brexit brexit. >> and cnn has correspondents covering developments across the continent. in london this hour. live from brussels. let's start with you. theresa may has more time to get
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a deal approved by parliament. but the big but. hard liners are not making it easy. what's their likely strategy? >> that but has been following her and plaguing her all along. those are the hard brexiters. within her group. they have been putting her two different directions and putting pressure on her. like you clearly and correctly said, she's got some breathing room until october. the halloween deadline. although that her trajectory according to what we heard yesterday is still to leave the european union sooner rather than later. she wants to leave at the end of may. before taking part in european parliament elections. that is still key for her. and of course that means she's only got several weeks to go in order to do that. she's hoping that she can reach
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some sort of consensus with the opposition. and in those cross party talks they can then work out a deal to put two members of parliament in order it loef on time. if she doesn't however, she has until october. to thrash out another deal. if it goes longer of course this is what the saying all along. is the fact that the longer the extension the softer the brexit. that of course will infuriate so many. today when she's expected to speak to the house of commons and tell them what was agreed. you expect to see fire works within her own party. potentially members resigning because of course they didn't want an extension. and some of them will no doubt say she is already yet again not in control of the brexit process
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and europe is leading the way. telling uk and britain how to leave. so more pressure on may. she has breathing room to get the deal. no movement on that as of yet. and so it will depend the next couple weeks whether in fact she can hold onto the position. which is extremely fragile at the moment. and get a deal passed in the house of commons. a lot to work for and work and a lot of pressure on her despite the october deadline. >> she's in a tough place. thank you for that. the eu has offered may the six month lifeline. along with a warning not to waste the extra time. so what happens if uk lawmakers are unable to make a deal in the extra time? is that it? no more extensions and no deal brexit. >> i think clearly that is what's offered and that is all that will be offered.
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bear in mind when the negotiations began last night, six hours in all. and all the leader and heads of eu getting to bed in the early morning hours. the idea had been the idea had been for a yearlong extension. there were divisions within the for remarkably united since the negotiations began. this time there were divisions because the europeans patience has been tested. by the inability to come up with way out of the eu. of their own. and also the unwillingness to push the united kingdom out in any way. that patience really has worn thin. hence the division in one catch led by a desire for a shorter extension. that is what was given just the six months until the 31st of october. a desire for a greater number of
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conditions to prevent it from being a troublesome leaving member of the eu. in the end the certain member of warnings were included within the conclusion. including june there will be a taking stock of how britain has behaved as a leaving member. to see if the process can continue until october 31. there was a fear leaving a united kingdom would seek to make trouble. particularly if there were change of government. they found themselves in the brexit at the helm. on the one hand hard line on britain. because wanting to protect the future of the eu and get on with it. and once again look ahead more ambitiously to the future post brexit and on the other the voices of moderation saying let us give the british more time and in particular led by merkel. the interest of germany. should there be a no deal brexit.
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this is the last extension you'll see. the european have made it clear that britain must not waste that precious time. the breathing space has been granted to may. because this what they're saying is this is going to be it. >> the ball is in parliaments court. which will see what they do with it. live from brussels. where it is 9:15 a.m. thank you. >> we'll take a short break. netanyahu makes history in israel. now on track for a record fifth term as prime minister. there are roadblocks ahead. the latest on the election.
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netanyahu is headed for an unprecedented fifth term to become israels longest serving prime minister. after a hard fought campaign and close election, his main rival former military chief conceded defeat. as of now the prime minister party and blue and white party are both on track to gain 35 seats in parliament.
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netanyahu has the advantage when it comes to building a majority coalition. smaller right bring groups. standing by for us in jerusalem. with more on this. the declared winner. but of course it's worth noting votes are still being counted at this hour. for soldiers and diplomats. what impact will those have? >> that's right. those last votes being counted soldiers as you say over seas diplomats and prisoners. people in the hospital. that's nearly done now. we're talking about 250,000 of those votes. they could in fact have an impact. they could lift one right wing party. currently under the threshold above the threshold. that would add another partner to the netanyahu block. his coalition. give him a couple more seats. now what happens next is the president will start calling in delegations from each party with
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seats in the ask them who they think should be given the chance to form a coalition. that likely of course at the moment to be netanyahu. that could take a week or so. and netanyahu would have 28 days to get it done. if it all goes smoothly with no hiccups a new government probably likely to be sworn in next month. >> wow. reporting from jerusalem. thank you. take another short break here. still to come u.s. law maybers set a deadline. the treasury secretary says he won't meet it. the battle over president trump's tax returns. (client's voice) remember that degree you got in taxation?
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we want to talk a bit more about the political battle ore the president's tax returns. joining me now. cnn legal analyst. welcome. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> of course with the distractions wednesday. the fact the democrats deadline is come and gone. the six years of president trump's tax returns to be leased. and the president and his treasury secretary made it clear they won't comply. what are the legal ramifications here? >> they will have to choice but to end up in the the court. congress could seek to hold the treasury department in contempt. but most likely what will happen is they'll end up having to go to the court over this. the letter of that law that they are relying upon is quite plain. it says shall. so there's not really any wiggle room for the treasury department. they seem to be following
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according to treasury secretary the argument that had been made by president trump private lawyer. which is rather interesting. they also will be asking the justice department legal counsel to weigh in on this. but to me as legal analyst it seems like a weak defense. or no defense at all. the ramifications will be that they'll litigate the issue. >> interesting. just to set the same president trump said wednesday he would love to release taxes but can't because he's under audit. just a few days ago he said he will fight this all the way to the supreme court. and acting chief of staff says democrats will never see trumps tax returns. so clearly he'll to whatever it takes to resist releasing them. you mention the court and specifically the supreme court. how are they likely to respond to this in the end? do you think the democrats and the public the people of the united states of america will
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ever see trumps tax returns? >> well i'm sure congress will get to see them. whether they get more broadly released i think that's a tougher call. this particular law says that the congress can ask for the returns. so if we focus on that argument at the district court not sure which way it will go. court after appeals. supreme court this is not that partisan of an issue. it's not a value issue. it's not conservative value. but it very much goes to the power of the president. so the extent the supreme court is a conservative one that is a supporter of the very strong executive power, then they may rule in favor of the president. and i think it will come down to that issue. with regard to the public seeing it, that's not required by law. that's been something that for the last 40 years every
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president has leased the returns. but there's not a compulsion to do that by law. there's talk of making that a law that president's must submit their returns. we already know the irs automatically will audit a president. i should add with regard to president trumps frequent implication of the audit that i'm still not aware of anybody saying that anything precht prevents you from having returns leased during an audit. there's not anything legal. >> we know that u.s. presidents in the past released tax returns even when they are under awe it. that shouldn't be a problem or challenge in any way. so if this does go to the court, what sort of time frame are we talking about? essentially the president could run out the clock. >> there's some concern about that. i actually don't think they'll take as long as some cases do.
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because there's not a lot of factual scenarios. it's not a big fact trial and jury. it's likely to be decided on legal issues and the amerimecha for that. a motion for judgment. and might be some injunction coming up meaning relief asking for the treasury department to perform. so those sorts of vehicles procedurally tend to be purely legal and those can quickly go through the trial court. and then court of appeals and get to the supreme court. if they want to touch it. the united states supreme court has discretion nar authority. they don't have to take everything. and it's possible it's too much of a hot potato. chief justice may want to avoid it. >> it has to be -- when you look at so much resistance from the president. from his acting chief of staff. to release these tax returns. the question of course is what
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do you think the president is hiding by refusing to release his tax returns year after year. that is the optics of this resistance. >> absolutely. i think the speculating runs everything from he's worried he's not worth as much as he says. to more serious concerns he may have. because some of the testimony that has former lawyer cohen gave talked about pretty reckless inflating and deflating of values and there could be a problem with tax fraud. and also we have to remember that the chief financial officer of the trump organization has been cooperating with prosecutors in new york. and obviously that's someone who is a good position to know the truth behind what was filed. >> if president trump wins a second term, there's going to be an instance there presumably we will see or certainly congress
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will see his tax returns? that's your belief. >> that's my belief. yeah. i think they will be seeing them. at some point. >> all right. we'll keep an eye on it. thanks. >> and we continue to follow breaking news from sudan. protestors are gathering in the streets. amidreports the president has been removed from power. activists are circulating a statement from a reported military transitional counsel. and announcing the news. this comes after months of antigovernment protest demanding an end to his 30 year rule. we'll keep you posted on updates. the european union agrees to another brexit delay. just ahead we'll see how financial world is reacting. you're watching cnn "newsroom." ? aveeno® with prebiotic oat. it hydrates and softens skin. so it looks like this... and you feel like this.
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welcome back, everyone. british prime minister has
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another six months to gt her brexit deal through parliament. the european union granted another extension on wednesday. this time until october 31st. now mrs. may says she is counting on a breakthrough from cross party talks which are set to resume in the coming hours. leaders say they will not renegotiate the withdrawal agreement. and counsel president warned the uk do not waste this time. cnn is live this hour. he joins us now. the eu has given this extra six mornts to get the deal approved. how are markets reacting? >> they have taken it in stride. they are relieved we didn't crash out of the european union. it's not removed the cloud of uncertainty. we'll have jokes back and forth all the way up to the deadline. the halloween deadline. trick or treat.
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let's get to the market reaction as you will. the number one test is the british pound trading against the u.s. dollar. it's risen after this decision from brussels. not a huge surprise. it's a net positive. it's been one of the strongest currencies within the developed world. at start of 2019. let's look at the market reaction over all. asia has been not affected by the vote. worries about a slow down due to the international monetary fund. tokyo up slightly. shanghai down sharply. because of concerns that china would be hit by a slow down of the united states. and in particular the european union. i thought the head of the british chamber of commerce summed it up well. after the extension. suggesting that lt extension buys some time. this is a quote. they can't afford to squander
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the opportunity. we have the head of german industrial giant we don't lilk to invest in uncertainty. and the bottom line is not the near term uncertainty in the financial market. but the long term damage the brand uk. down nearly 20% since the referendum vote in 2016. major companies. honda, toyota, and scores of others within the fortune 100 pulled out. because they want access to the single market of the european union. 5 500 million consumers. that's in play. those who want to have access to the large market. >> all right. many thanks. bringing us market reaction. appreciate that. >> journalist joining me now from l.a. to talk about more of this. good to see you. the eu leaders have given the uk a big break here. warning lawmakers to use this
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time wisely. listen. >> the message to the british friends. this extension is reas flexible as i expect it. and a little bit shorter than i expected. but it's still enough. to find the best possible solution. please do not waste this time. >> so he also said britain will have all options on brexit available during this time. how optimistic are you this six months extension will make a difference in result in some workable brexit deal and how viable of a cross party talks between may and opposition leader? given this new timetable. >> personally, i'm not particularly optimistic. and i think it's quite fitting that this deadline is on halloween. this is turning into a zombie brexit. refusing to be laid to rest.
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and it's also interesting that it's halloween. at may's deal and her -- are going to drag on just that little bit longer. people were expecting a year delay. the president was suggesting that's what it would be. now we have a six month delay. it looks like there's probably not enough time for conservative who want to get rid of the prime minister and put somebody else in charge. and maybe a more hard line brexit. it looks like they won't have enough time. with the eu elections in may. you have local elections in the uk. at the beginning of may. and they might not just be able to fit it all in. theresa may hanging on again until october 31. and then the real question is to go to your question, what's going to happen. are we going to find a deal from
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the delay. there's not much incentive for a deal. between the two major political parties. may has been trying to engage labor in some cross party talks. but very little incentive for a deal. if he wets himself to the brexit. that will cause a split in his party. if he goes for anything less than a referendum. on brexit. then that's going to cause serious discomfort in his party. and could lead to him being outed potentially. and that's a red line that i think may probably isn't going to cross. or split her party if she cro crosses it. you have an impasse. >> this extension has made to difference. except more time to keep going over the same ground. theresa may still has challenges. when she returns to london. she's spoke about her frustration trying to get her
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deal approved. let's listen. >> over the last three months i have voted three times to leave the european union. sufficient voted with me in january. we would be out. we have not been able to get the majority in parliament. i have reaching out to find a way in which we can get an agreement that will command a majority across the house of commons. >> of course the world shares her frustration. how will she sell the extension to lawmakers? and of course the public. when she returns and can she expect more cooperation from the conservative mp. they will be stuck with her essentially. and possibly the leaders factor that in. when they gave the six month extension. so where do they go from here? >> well, i think this gives permission really, sadly.
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to conservative mp and parliament to kick the can down the road. and don't have a particular reason to come to a deal now. it's this real still edge man ship game. game of chicken. neither side wants to give an inch. they think they can win. you have the hard line brexit thinking they can eventually force a no deal brexit or hard line brexit. and the remainers who think they're closer than ever before to getting a second referendum-over cancelling brexit and slightly less likely option. it's interesting to look at the parliamentary statistics. who is voting for what. in terms of blame here. the conservative mps voted no for the no deal brexit. no for the compromised deal. no for the a second referendum. no to cancel brexit and no for a
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general election. where as labors are voting yes on most of those. so the people who are not moving seem to be the conservative m approximates and may has been trying to get on side. she's failed so far. but doesn't seem to be much reason much indication they will change their mind and join her. and especially with the delay. >> very telling. we'll be watching to see what they do. in the coming days and weeks ahead. thank you so much. we'll have more cnn "newsroom" after the short break. stay with us. you've tried moisturizer after moisturizer
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thursday. south korea president will meet with president trump. there are reports that mr. moon will invite trump to seoul in the coming months. and wants to broker another u.s. north korea summit. now live from seoul. this comes amidnew threats from north korea. is this an effort to appease kim jong un and will president be open to the third summit given the second one failed? >> well, it's interesting. even before the seconds summit happened, i heard south korea officials talking about the third summit. this is something they have wanted all aalong. it ended without an agreement makes it more important. the north koreas and the americans are sitting and talking. president moon jay in stakes the creditability on the talks the relationship between the u.s.
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and north korea improving and steps towards denuclearization. so what we're hearing is the president moon will try to encourage the u.s. president once again to consider sitting down with kim jong un. that clearly very little has happened since the summit. at least when it comes to seeing the relationship with anybody improve. we hear from the south korea side as well that the north koreans are not cooperating with things like looking for remains of korean war vets. on the dmz. the north koreans aren't engaging the way they did with the south korea before the summit. there's a lot riding on this meeting for president moon and wants to try to push the u.s. president to go back to talk to kim jong un and try to make another potential summit a lot more successful than the previous one. >> south korea president moon, he has been in the position of trying to broker peace on the
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peninsula. drawing together two unpredictable leaders. how difficult has this task been for him? and how determined is he to make this work? >> well, the u.s. president asked him to be the mediator between the u.s. and north korea. initially you can imagine he would have been delighted. of course that role becomes increasingly difficult. the further along this process you get. we heard from the north korean leader on wednesday. saying that sanctions should not be pushed forward. talking about the they'll deliver a blow to the hostile forces that believe sanctions are the way forward. historically hot tile forces they are presumed to be talking about lt u.s. it is interesting though that the kim jong un is still not talking about president trump in detrimental terms. that's being left alone. clearly the relationship between the leaders he understands there
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is some room for that. we are potentially expecting to hear from him this thursday. he's meeting at the supreme peoples assembly. the north korean parliament is convening. it could be the fist time we hear the leader talk about the summit. in the past we only heard statement media mention they thought the u.s. was to blame for no agreement. we haven't heard from kim jong un himself sfwl the very latest live from seoul. many thanks to you. before we go, i want to update you on the breaking news from sudan. protestors gather in the streets ahid reports the president has been removed from power. activists circulating a statement from a reported military transitional counsel announcing this news. it comes after months of antigovernment protests demanding an end to the 30 year rule. thank you so much for joining us.
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i think spying did occur. >> attorney general bill barr now investigating the fbi saying agents spied on the trump campaign. tens of thousands are marching through the streets of sudan's capital where an up rising may have come to

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