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importantly, he's indicted here in the united states. a short time ago, the justice department announced assange is charged with conspiracy to commit computer intrusion. that's how they put it. this is for allegedly working with and helping chelsea manning back in 2010. you'll remember, crack the code on a classified military computer, and manning released hundreds of thousands of sensitive documents related to the wars in afghanistan and iraq and guantanamo bay. isa soares is in london outside the court where assange faces a judge for the first time. evan perez is in washington. isa, what happened in court? there's a lot going on there today. >> very much, and you can hear the screams behind, the protests, people saying no u.s. extradition. many people here calling for him not to be extradited. and calling for freedom of speech and the protection of freedom of speech. let me give you a sense of what exactly happened.
around quarter past 2:00 local time in london. yulian assange arriving to court, courtroom number one, wearing a dark suit, gray beard, as we saw from the shot of him this morning, being dragged out of the ecuadorian embassy. he gave the thumbs up to the press as he went in. he seemed calm. he seemed confident. he was then asked to give his name and to give his date of birth, which he did. he sat down, then he was given the reasons for his arrest warrant. so the two you outlined in the introduction. one for skipping bail back in 2012. the other for the the u.s. extradition. he was given detail basically talking about how he was arrested and how the arrest took place and the fact that he basically refused to be arrested, so they had to basically cuff him and detain him and drag him out of the ecuadorian embassy. those are the shots we saw today. we then hurt regarding the bail
that he skipped, he was then told he skipped bail. his lawyer said the reason he skipped bail was because he thought he couldn't get a fair trial, hence why he went to the ecuadorian embassy, to which the judge had this to say, if i can get this. the judge described him, and i'm quoting him here, as a narcissist who cannot get beyond his own self-interest. in what regards to the bail, he could get as many as 12 months or so in prison. and what regards to the extradition hearing, we're expecting that hearing to take place on may 2nd. and until then, what we're going to be hearing is him making appearance by video link to the court so they can see him, they can hear from him. so julian assange being taken away, back to jail. waiting to hear on his extradition. and that date is now may 2nd, kate. >> and as isa is there, we're
waiting to see who if anyone will be coming out to speak, possibly attorneys for julian assange, and i'm just looking at the video again, we'll wait to see if we hear from them and what they have to say. isa, thank you. evan, let me bring you in. can you walk us through the charges and this extradition request from the u.s.? >> right now, kate, there is just one charge. that has to do with the 2010 hacking or the 2010 stolen documents that chelsea manning, if you remember, she was found guilty for those crimes some time ago, during the obama administration. but according to this indictment that was unsealed in alexandria, virginia, prosecutors say assange was part of it. he helped conspire with chelsea manning to try to get passwords into that sensitive military computer system, as you mentioned. we do expect there's going to be more. this is just the beginning. the justice department is expected to file more charges against julian assange. we don't know exactly when that will be and what exactly those
will be, but this is a case, as you know, that has been going on for a long time, including obviously during the obama administration where they looked at whether they could charge julian assange and wikileaks as something other than a jou journalistic organization and publisher. news organizations worked with wikileaks to publish some of that information. some of that had begun changing towards the end of the obama administration and certainly under jeff sessions as attorney general, they made a new legal finding, and they decided they could. some of that, kate, has to do with evidence they were able to recover. the fbi was able to find, recover communications that they say shows that julian assange was more than just a publisher. he was more than just receiving this information. he was an active participant conspiring to try to get into these computers. that's the reason why you see these charges finally today. >> evan, thank you so much. great to see you. let's talk more about this.
samantha vinograd is here, former senior adviser to the security council in the obama administration. cnn crime and justice reporter shimon prokupecz, and steve lattic is a propheter at the texas school of law. when you look at the indictment, and it spells it out, it's a good reminder, you were covering this extensively as this went down. remind folks, it's 250,000 diplomatic cables plus much more that chelsea manning revealed. in the impact of it all. >> the impact was great. the information was shared with journalists, reporters, various stories, "the new york times," the guardian, all sorts of stories written about this, and it was highly sensitive information. some of it controversial. some of it embarrassing to many countries, because he also, what happened -- julian assange also got ahold of cables, diplomatic cables that chelsea manning wound up getting ahold of and leaking. there was a video of an airstrike which was hugely
controversial, which created all sorts of problems. the u.s. government said they had to relocate sources, that they were relying on in afghanistan and other parts of the world because of the release of this information. changes came about because of these leaks. they were an important part of our history, certainly. so it was controversial, nonetheless. and it certainly created problems for the u.s. government at the time of its release. >> you were part of the u.s. government at the time. >> i was at the white house when the first release of these documents unfolded as well as the successive stages. let's not forget, it wasn't just one release by chelsea manning. there were several stages of this, including, by the way, unredacted cables that came after the initial 2010 release. this wasn't just embarrassing for the u.s. government. this represented a grave national security risk. several of these cables, thousands of them, were classified above an unclassified information. information is classified because it's unauthorized disclosure could result in national security risks.
having been at the white house, i can tell you our personnel overseas including not just military personnel, our diplomats, our sources and methods used in intelligence operations were put at immediate risk of exposure, retaliation and more. when we talk about this, let's not just talk it embarrassing. let's also call it dangerous. >> steve, you talked about how there's been so much discussion about -- hold on one second, steve. i'm told in my ear that the assange attorneys are speaking outside the court. let's listen to that. >> jewulian assange would face prosecution and extradition to the united states. unfortunately today, we have been proven right. mr. assange was arrested this morning at about 10:00 at the ecuadorian embassy after the ambassador formally notified him his asylum would be revoked. we received a warrant and a provisional extradition request from the united states alleging that he has conspired with
chelsea manning in relation to the materials published by wikileaks in 2010. this sets a dangerous precedent for all media organizations and journalists in europe and elsewhere around the world. this precedent means that any journalist can be extradited for prosecution in the united states for having published truthful information about the united states. i have just been with mr. assange. he wants to thank all of his supporters for their ongoing support, and he said i told you so. >> well, the only thing to add to this is the fact this is a dark day for journalists. and as jennifer said, this sets a precedent, we don't want this to go forward. this has to be averted. the uk government needs to make a full assurance that a journalist will never be extradited to the united states for publishing activity.
this pertains to publishing work nine years ago. publishing of documents, of videos, of killing of innocent civilians. exposure of war crimes. this is journalism. it's called conspiracy. it's conspiracy to commit journalism. so this has to end. and we urge everybody to support julian assange in fighting this extradition. thank you. >> what legal avenues are available to you to prevent his extradition? >> we will be contesting and fighting extradition. we have requested he now get some medical treatment. he's been refused medical treatment for the past seven and a half years, seven years since being inside the embassy. we will be fighting extradition, and he'll be brought before the court again in the next month. >> how is he now? >> we're not going to be taking any more questions today. thank you very much.
>> you were asking about the elements in the extradition request. it is quite obvious that the u.s. authorities have picked just one element of what they have been working on for a long time, including the espionage acts that have decades in prison. there is no assurance there would not be additional charges when he's on u.s. soil. and i think, and i believe, that this was an angle in the approach to increase the likelihood of him being extradited. it is obvious. >> do you have anything to say about the ecuadorian embassy -- >> that's very interesting and important there, the perspective and position that the attorneys for julian assange are taking. steve, this gets to directly something you have written and talked a lot about. there's been some discussion leading up to today of if julian assange was ever, ever charged with, let's say, espionage, it
would raise some thorny issues as it related to the first amendment. that's clearly the position that his attorneys are trying to make, saying this is a first amendment issue and he published truthful information, but the fact he's charged with helping crack into a classified u.s. government computer, do you thing this takes it to a different place now? >> i think it does, kate. i think that's exactly why both this took so long and why the count that was unveiled this morning in the indictment has nothing to do, at least overtly, with publishing this information. i think the government all along has understood that it would set a very dangerous precedent to prosecute anyone, even julian assange, merely for the act of publishing classified national security information, because what would separate assange from, say, the niemsz. by focusing on assange's role in assisting manning in stealing these documents, in providing these materials to assange, what the government is saying is that's not journalism. that's a crime. i think there are still going to
be folks worried about that, but to me, the question going forward is, is that the only charge or is the government going to tie to bring additional charges later. you heard his lawyers talk about diplomatic assurances. those might be necessary if the british government is going to convince a british court to accept the u.s. extradition request. >> sam, because this is -- his attorneys, his u.s. attorney put out a statement before this, making the same case as his attorneys there. this boils down to what assange did. what the facts are. boiled down to encouraging a source to provide him information and taking efforts to protect the identity of the source. it's clear the case they're trying to make. >> they are, but that's exactly not what the department of justice indictment says. this is not a first amendment issue. it relates to conspiracy to illegally hack into a u.s. government system. i want to be clear on another point. julian assange and wikileaks of 2010 looked very different than julian assange and wikileaks in
2016 and 2019. we don't know if there are superseding charges related to election interference in 2016. shimon, you covered this extensively, they indicated organization one, wikileaks, worked with the gru to release documents from the dnc and john podesta. we don't know if there will be a charge related to that. we also have to be clear about the fact that wikileaks has been accused of intervening in other country's affairs. the president of ecuador said he released unauthorized information from the vatican. we could see more charges coming based on the fact wikileaks is a non-state hostile intelligence service. >> and that is what mike pompeo has called him early on. let's see if he repeats that. organization one is how wikileaks was referred to in some of the indictments relating to the russians who have been indicted in the russia investigation. this indictment was signed on march 6th of last year. in 2018.
how does that fit in, shimon, in the russian investigation? does it at all? >> right now, we don't have any indication it does relate to that. and obviously, julian assange, wikileaks, was an important part of the russia investigation. certainly came up during the mueller fbi's investigation into russia collusion. where all this goes, it's not really clear. i don't think there will be charges right now. we don't see any evidence there's going to be charges related to the russians. >> they have been going after him for a long time. >> that's the thing people don't realize. yulian assange has been a thorn in the side of the fbi for years. we're talking about, they have been wanting to arrest him for years. i know there were agents here in new york years ago for a different case were trying to arrest him, and obviously, there was this dispute within the department of justice whether or not you can bring charges against julian assange. it's a very different look of julian assange. i think sam made that point. with this administration and under the obama administration.
but the view of wikileaks and julian assange started to change at the end of the obama administration, as the fbi started gathering more information on him. >> it's also complicated. chelsea manning's sentence was commuted by president obama. >> it was. after chelsea manning put american diplomats, american personnel at risk, and i think that may be an issue. we know president trump likes to throw it all the way back to president obama when he's under the spotlight, and president trump has been a fan of wikileaks. he says he loves wikileaks. >> you have to think about the role that julian assange played in the 2016 election. you can't forget about that, and what this and why the federal government, why the fbi wanted to go after him even more. it is an important part of this. where any of this goes in terms of the russia stuff, we don't yet know. >> and one step, steve, quickly, do you think extradition is assured? do you think there's a question?
>> a question only in the sense that extradition is 90% political and 10% legal. i think the more that the u.s. is able to sell the british government, sell british courts on the idea that this indictment today is the heart of the matter, i think the more of a slam dunk it will be for ext extradition. the more headway assange's lawyers can make in saying no, no, as soon as he arrived on u.s. soil, they're going to slap him with indictments acting on conduct that looks like journalism. that's a scenario where the british court might pause a beat. >> this is really important stuff and fascinating. thank you so much for being here. >> coming up for us, a horrible off the rails and astounding, democrats lashing out at attorney general bill barr and his statement before congress that he thinks the government spied on the trump campaign. what exactly was barr trying to say? is there room for interpretation and is he going to try to clarify a fourth time? plus, bernie sanders and a slew of other democrats are rolling out their new health
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thi think spying did occur. >> barr was asked to clarify that take a few times yesterday. his efforts did not seem to appease some democrats. that is for sure. >> i think it is in many ways disrespectful to the men and women who work in the justice department. and it shows, i think, either a lack of understanding or willful ignorance of what goes into a counterintelligence investigation. >> you have never been told what he said today? >> absolutely not. >> cnn justice reporter laura jarrett is in washington with more. how is the justice department explaining barr's comments now? >> well, kate, no official reaction from the justice department, but what i can tell you behind the scenes in talks that barr is having with his advisers, according to a person familiar with his thinking, this
was not a gaffe. he knows what he's saying. he's quite savvy. he's very well aware of his words and how they have meaning. so this was intentional. he meant what he said, but at the same time, he doesn't view the word spying in the derogatory sense. he actually thinks it's a perfectly reasonable thing if it's adequately predicated. that's what he was trying to say when he further explained at the hearing yesterday what he's really worried about is unauthorized surveillance. for many people, that explanation falled flat because of the way the word has been weaponized for the last two years by president trump. remember spygate. so this isn't 1992, and the idea that bill barr doesn't know how the president has used that word in a political sense, i think, for some is hard to believe. >> that's a very good point. and as we discussed yesterday, kind of around barr's testimony, barr says that he is reviewing how the russia investigation started in the first place. i mean, he said during his
testimony that he has concerns. why is it that barr is investigating that if the inspector general in the same department is doing exactly that right now? >> i think that's a really fair question, because not only do we know that the inspector general is investigating it, he announced that last year. but we also know that there's a u.s. attorney out of utah named jon huber, who was tasked with doing this very thing because there was so much pressure on jeff sessions to appoint a special second counsel to look at the origins of the russia investigation, and also some clinton issues. the question is if you already have a prosecutor looking at it, the i.d. looking at t what is barr doing? those close to him say he wanted to have sort of a 30,000 foot approach, pull all the threads together and look at it. which on the face of it i think is a reasonable thing for the attorney general to want to do, just for such a big counterintelligence investigation, but again, the way that he went about explaining it, using the word spy, i think is what got
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fellow democratic presidential contenders signing onto it already. here's what we know about it. it would be a fundamental overhaul of the entire health care system in the united states. it would wipe out the private health insurance industry as we know it, because americans would no longer pay premiums or deductibles because the government would run and pay for it all. according to sanders' new plan, private insurers could only provide benefits for things like elective surgeries like cosmetic procedures. how much does it cost? we'll get to that in a second. with president trump now fighting in court to strike down all of obamacare, you can see that the lines are being drawn for this to be a major issue in the fight for the white house. if only we had someone running for the job that we could talk to. or we do. joining me now, democratic presidential candidate tim ryan of ohio. thanks for coming in. >> thanks for having me. >> so you support medicare for all. why is that the best way to fix a broken system?
>> well, i have been on the medicare for all bill since 2007. but like anything, i think we need to take steps in that direction. i personally don't believe we need to take people off of their private health insurance if they enjoy it. we ned to make sure there are protections there for them around pre-existing conditions and all of that. >> can you do both? >> of course you can. >> can you do -- can you do this -- i'm going to call it the dream of medicare for all with a single-payer system and keep private insurance companies and let people keep their private insurance? >> yes, you can. here's how i think you do that. i think the natural next step is for us to bring the medicare system down to 50 or 55. it would take care of a large swath of people in the industrial midwest and around the country who maybe lose their job when they're 55 or 60, have a rough time affording insurance. then i think we help them pay for it. i also think a natural next step is to allow small businesses who
have 50 employees or under to be able to buy into the medicare system. that will help us grow our economy under entrepreneurship and innovation. that's a natural next step forward. we also should have a public option. anyone who can't get health care should be able to buy into some kind of public system around the medicare system. >> a public option is not medicare for all, as it's being described, especially in the legislation we have seen. so do you see it more as from your position, as you're talking to voters, as medicare for all maybe is the dream and the steps you have just laid out is the practical reality? >> yeah, i think so. i mean, the reality of it is that the current system is really inefficient. we spend two and a half times as much as every other industrialized country and get worse results. so i actually think we're having the wrong conversation, too, because the health care system
right now is a disease care system. and you have the pharmaceutical companies like senator sanders said, and i think appropriately so, that are making billions and billions of dollars off a disease care system. and so are the health insurance companies. so my question is, and my solution is, how do we front load the system? 75% to 80% of all chronic diseases that cost the health care system are preventable. so how do we move the system to more prevention based. how do we teach doctors to teach their patients how to be healthy? how do we incentivize businesses and patients and doctors to get paid to keep us healthy? how do we look at the food system and say how is that affecting our health? >> all important things. this is a lot of the discussion around obamacare as well. and so are you saying you think obamacare has failed? >> well, it's not worked quite like we wanted because we have the republicans trying to
completely dismantle it. so it never really had the chance to work. but providing universal coverage, making sure everybody in the wealthiest country on god's green earth should be able to get health care for their kids or for their family when they get sick, i don't think that's too much to ask. >> it comes with a price tag though, right? you have estimates on medicare for all, at least the way we have seen it, i don't know, we keep saying all over the map because it's ranging from $1 trillion a year to $3.5 trillion a year. if people like folks in your district are hurting financially, how do you convince them that cost is worth it? >> well, the question is, you're not paying both health insurance, so take what you're paying every month in health insurance costs and then take what you would pay into the medicare program. and you're going to save a heck of a lot more money by going into the medicare program because it's stable and more efficient and there's not the entire profit motive.
take out your current health insurance you're paying. that's why it makes sense. at the end of the day, let's take the first step. let's help small businesses be able to buy into this program, and let's flip the whole system into a more preventative based system where we're incentivizing doctors, patients, health care system. they can make money to keep us healthy. >> on the most basic level, do you think it's a bad idea to wipe out private insurance? >> today, yes. yes. >> in ten years? >> well, we'll have to say. >> steps to that. i see what you're saying. you don't want to cut it off at the knees now. you want steps to it. >> i want to hit a gram sland home run, but there's nobody on the bases. let's move down this road, see how it looks. let's build trust among the american people that this is a system that can really deliver good quality, affordable health care for them and how it's good for the economy, and then let's see where we go from there. >> you mentioned wellness and
prevention. health and wellness is something that you have been talking about, writing about, for years. there has been some reporting this week about your support of two wellness experts, wellness gurus who have both been publicly skeptical about the safety of vaccines. with the measles outbreak, just as an example, in multiple states right now in the country, outbreaks that are preventable through vaccinations, i want to give you a chance to clear up your position on the safety of vaccines. >> well, the most straightforward way i can say it is we vaccinate our kids. and i believe that we should vaccinate our kids, period. and i'm associated with those people with regard to healthy food and wellness. and i think there's a lot that we can do around wellness, and they have been two great advocates around making sure that we get healthy. again, we're talking about a disease care system.
and we have to move to a health care system. we have to talk about incentivizing all of these things to keep us healthy. that at the end of the day is how we're going to knee cap the pharmaceutical industry, by staying healthy. >> so if a voter comes up to you and says, congressman, do you think vaccines are safe, what do you say to them? >> i say we vaccinate our kids. and i think they are. and brady is 4 1/2 years old. and he got all of his shots. >> brady and my daughter are probably exactly the same age. we'll talk about their birth dates later, not on camera. i want to ask you, julian assange arrested. extradition request from the united states, charged with conspiracy to hack a government computer. what do you think should happen to julian assange? do you see him as a journalist or a criminal? >> well, i think he should be prosecuted. you know, these are important issues. i think you look at what's happening with russia today.
you see what they're trying to do, trying to damage our economy. they're trying to damage our political system. and anybody contributing in any way to that i think needs to be punished. and we need to be strict on these issues. we can't have people stealing secrets from the united states. >> congressman, thank you so much for coming on. in new hampshire where i think you'll be spending a lot of time, just guessing, in the next few month. we'll catch up to you on the trail. thank you, sir. >> thank you, if you're supportive of what we're saying, go to tim ryan for america.com. >> he wouldn't be running for president if he weren't asking for help. appreciate it. coming up, three black churches in ten days burned. now authorities in louisiana have made an arrest. who is the man that they have arrested? what is his connection to law enforcement? officials are holding a press conference in louisiana right now. we have upupdates. that's next.
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their suspect taken into custody yesterday. they believe he's responsible for those three black church burnings between march 26th and april 4th that terrorized this part of louisiana there in st. landry's parish, just about an hour's drive west of baton rouge. as you mentioned, the sheriff said that holden matthews is the son of a deputy in his department. also, the sheriff described this deputy as his best friend there. and how difficult it was to explain to his friend and deputy that his son, he believes, was responsible for these burnings. we do not know exactly how they determined holden matthews was responsible, but we have learned from the sheriff there that this deputy, the father, did not know anything about what his son was allegedly doing. did not help to turn him in, but did facilitate the arrest, getting matthews away from their
family home. these counts that he's been charged with, simple arson of religious, burning of religious building, felonies obviously come with significant jail time. and a $15,000 fine potentially. the governor of louisiana, john bell edwards says this period reminded louisiana of a dark past of intimidation and fear. and here's what we heard from the state fire marshal. >> this community is safe again. we are extremely unequivocally confident we have the person responsible for these tragic crimes on these three churches. and i have to tell you, this investigation is probably one of the most unique arson investigations that i have been involved in in my 33 years in that this was an attack on the house of god. >> we know that in addition to local and state investigators, the atf, the fbi assisted in the
investigation. that deputy, the suspect's father, is said to be hurt and shocked, but all officials there believe that the terror is over. kate. >> still the questions are going to linger until there's a firm answer of just why this person would do this. thank you so much, victor. coming up for us, the national enquirer is up for sale. why now? and who's buying? we'll be right back. . . .
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