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>> there is more here than meet it is eye. you will be very surprised >> we know what doesn't exist and it's collusion. >> vast sums have been promised to the french president saying he hopes to have it done within five years. >> i was passing by it every day for years. i never got used to it >> some of the artifacts were saved by a human chain while the fire was under way. >> there is already life coming from death. >> i find it inspirational. >> announcer: this is "new day" with alisyn camerota and john berman. >> good morning, everyone. welcome to your "new day." john is off this week. poppy harlow joins me. thank you very much for being here in his stead >> my pleasure. >> great to have you. the wait is almost over for the redacted version of the mueller report. president trump says he expects it to back up his claim of, quote, complete exoneration. one source says the president is going to go bonkers when he sees the testimony of current and former white house officials.
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while those close to the president say they don't expect bomb shells some details could be embarrassing. a federal judge concerned about transparency wants to review the redactions after the release. that's interesting. a judge is hearing a freedom of information act request to release the full report. democrats are poised to subpoena the justice department for that full mueller report as soon as friday. basically right after. >> joining us now to talk about this we have jeffrey toobin, cnn chief legal analyst, frank bruni, cnn contributor and biaga rolitriga. i'm fascinated by your process, jeffrey >> my process. you mean my orange theory workouts? >> i do want to shadow you for a day. tomorrow would be a great day to start. tomorrow morning when you get
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400 pages in your hot little hands what's the first thing you search for? >> redactions. it's the one thing you can see easily. attorney general barr has said there will be some sort of color coded system which tells you what was redacted and for what reason. he has four categories he described. just as an initial matter, we are going to want to know how much of this was censored. after that it gets complicated. i guess the next thing you'll want to know is how did mueller deal with the question of obstruction of justice. barr said -- i don't remember the exact words, but he said it was not the conventional approach. he didn't say yes or no. did he leave it to congress? did he say it was too difficult and i can't make up my mind? next step is to determine what's
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new in the report. what are the stories, the incidents, the facts that all of us journalists have not been able to ferret out. then i go to orange theory >> that's a full day. >> something tells me you are not getting out of the building tomorrow. one thing that's different from this in previous reporting is these will not be anonymous sources. we know from reporting on it that bill barr won't make redactions just because it might be unflattering to the president >> including the president's name himself. that's part of what kaitlyn collins is reporting. white house staffers are freaked out. they have spoken to mcgahn for 30 hours. >> bankeronkers, the technical >> and not anonymous. >> they spent many hours including don mcgahn over 30
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hours. this was happening when don mcgahn spent time with mueller unknown to the president. they were surprised by the reporting when it became known a few months ago that mcgahn spent that much time with the president. you can imagine the president's feelings toward don mcgahn may be turning quickly come tomorrow when we find out what he said. other staffers might be nervous about, listen, i was told to be honest. i never thought we'd get to the point where it might be released. others said we may not be so sympathetic >> frank, some of the reporting and this is hard to believe. officials tell cnn the president is not expected to read the report himself. his legal experts will read it and tell him what's in there. >> i'm laughing because we keep hearing the president prefers pictures to words. i imagine someone doing a slide show with captions, here is what the report says. he doesn't have the discipline or span of attention. the notion of him being mad at people is so interesting. he's arguing against himself. if he's going to tell the public
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there is nothing to see and i'm exonerated how does he get mad at what individual people said and how it made him look? either there is nothing incriminating or he's mad at people for making him look bad >> when has trump ever been intimidated by the idea of arguing continue depict depict contradictory things. fox news will say this shows it was a nothing burger, a scam, and people who betrayed me are horrible and liars. >> he will do both things. i'm just pointing out it is a paradox. he'll say he's totally exonerated no matter what is in the report. >> yes. >> the problem is because barr came out early and said something similar to that, a lot of americans have turned the page. >> not only that, they have muddied the water. barr suggesting he was going to investigate perhaps spying going on. so the president wants to be focused on what led to this,
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what he believes is an illegal investigation to begin with. there will be contradictory accusations the president will throw out >> even if this is not good for the president it sounds like you are saying you don't think it will move the needle much in the court of public opinion. >> the president believes he had the first say and the most important say coming out when we got the four-page barr memo saying he was, as he says, exonerated. that's not exactly what barr elu alluded to, but the president stuck with the narrative. he likes to drive the news of the day. he's been doing it for a couple of weeks. lump it in with the fact that now he'll call it an illegal investigation. i think a lot of people, especially the president's supporter wills tune out >> nothing moves the polls. we always talk about, oh, what are the polls going to do? the polls haven't changed in two years. oh, went from 42 to 40%. that's noise. the polls on donald trump have
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been stable since he took office. i can't believe anything in this report is going to change it >> anything. >> i have a burning question for you. we have accepted we'll get the redacted report. why can't congress get the unredacted report as they did with ken starr? >> they may. >> why is congress accepting a redacted report? in their oversight duty aren't they entitled to the full report? >> they are not just accepting that. the house judiciary committee already authorized a subpoena for the full report. but the law was different. the independent counsel law which starr was appointed under. the attorney general had no supervisory role. it was only the court. mueller is an employee of the department of justice who answers to the attorney general and the attorney general had the right to sencensor this >> isn't there a higher law that
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gives congress oversight and doesn't that trump the law you're referring to? >> the courts will answer the question. it is true barr has the right to eliminate classified information from being disclosed to the public. i don't think anybody disagrees with that >> the grand jury stuff was in the ken starr report? >> absolutely. the continuing investigations are certainly not a legal category. and the fourth category which to me is the most bizarre of all. >> the derogatory information. >> i don't know where he gets the authority with that. >> we don't want anybody to feel bad. it's on congress that the independent counsel law lapsed. that's the thing. they thought it was the best mechanism >> there was bipartisan desire to see that. democrats hated the iran contra investigation which i worked on. i'm sorry. democrats hated the starr
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investigation. republicans hated iran contra >> this is where things could get interesting here with democrats. if they find there are grounds of obstruction or pursuing the path of obstruction with regard to the president you could see them turning to the courts if they want to pursue impeachment. >> and then everything changes. >> they may say, listen, we may pursue impeachment of the president so we need all of the information from the grand jury. by the way, that would be a challenge for democrats, too. there is risk there for them to go down that road >> it's a legal strategy. if you do file articles of impeachment it gives you a better case, i guess, to get some of the underlying information. is that a political risk they are willing to take? >> there are a lot of political risks here. tomorrow is the end of nothing. it's the continuation. when we talk about subpoenas, appeals to courts, if this goes to november 2020 it doesn't leave oxygen for the democratic candidates to talk about other
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things. we know what voters want to hear about isn't just how much the candidates dislike trump. they want to hear what you would do for the country >> that's not true here. when they come on the show on this network they will be talking about issues. we have two of them coming up today >> if we are all talking about mueller, mueller subpoenas -- >> i hear you. >> that's a risk for democrat candidates. >> democratic candidates in 2018 in the midterms were very successful in not talking about muell mueller. isn't there every reason to believe the democrats running for president will do the same thing? >> i hope so. knock on wood >> we don't have any. we'll see in five minutes >> think about all of the times over the past two years, myself included, we have said just imagine what mueller knows. everything we know, everything we have reported, everything at the network, all the news at the network we have come down to, but that's just one iota of what mueller knows. regardless of what will be
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redacted tomorrow, it will be interesting >> tomorrow, we find out. >> kind of. >> tomorrow we find out ish what mueller knows. speaking of subpoenas, the white house is resistant to handing over information that congress wants. forget the mueller report. on separate issues such as security clearances. they are resisting subpoenas to hand over information. now what? >> on everything. on everything. yesterday they said we are not providing any information about the president's involvement in the at&t time-warner merger, the one we all work for >> yeah. >> they are stiff-arming the congress on everything. that's why the congressional subpoenas to deutsche bank which happened this week are significant. the white house can't stop those. those are -- the subpoenas to the white house, to the government, they're going to be tied up in court for perhaps two
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years. the other subpoenas may produce something >> i'm interested in that. there is a theory that deutsche bank and jpmorgan wanted the subpoenas to give them cover for turning over stuff. >> they have no choice. >> except if the president sues them which they say is unlikely. other than that, they have to turn over -- maybe not today or tomorrow but in the coming weeks >> i think the odds are the material will be turn eed over. >> i think you will hear the term executive privilege quite often. it will be the new witch hunt >> how are security clearances executive privilege? isn't it in the national interest to know if somebody isn't qualified to have a security clearance? >> doesn't ali ask the burning question? >> have i missed my calling? >> we would be happy to have you in the legal profession.
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it would raise the quality >> raise the barr bar. >> but the arguments can be made in court and once you start making arguments in court, the clay ki delay kicks in. people lose interest, lose attention. if the white house can delay things until the middle of next year essentially just one year which is not that long in legal time, the issues will be successfully dealt with >> he said, you know, we are going to wait. it will take a long time once it's in the courts. it will be after 2020 and he'll have won re-election >> they are trying to muck things up. i love your high-minded questions about a low-minded administration >> thank you, frank. sometimes it is a challenge to ask all of you guys brilliant questions, but i feel today we accomplished it >> you pulled it off. >> thank you. breaking overnight, dozens of schools closed in the denver area while fbi officials look
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for an armed woman they say was infatuated with the columbine massacre. scott mclean is live in littleton, colorado. what is this about? >> reporter: it's hard to overstate the significance of shutting down nearly 20 school districts in the metro area the size of denver. this is affecting hundreds of schools and a higher number of students. it is all because of the threat posed by, according to law enforcement, one 18-year-old woman na woman. she is considered armed and dangerous. she came from florida according to the fbi. she went and immediately purchased a pump action shotgun and ammunition. the concerning part for authorities is that she has a history of credible but not really specific threats toward schools. she also has this infatuation with the columbine shooting in 1999 and the shooters who
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carried it out killing 13 people. this is hardly the first time columbine has been threatened. it's important to make clear this is not a threat specific to columbine necessarily. but the jefferson county sheriff says, look, this opens an old wound, especially given that the 20-year anniversary of the day is coming up on saturday. authorities think she was dropped off in the foothills area in suburban metro denver on the west end of town. beyond that they don't know where she might have gone. she doesn't really have a connection to this city, to this state at all. here's the other big question. what would the fbi even charge her with? it's not illegal to buy a gun. her threats haven't been specific. the fbi said they'll try to hold her as long as they legally can. poppy? >> okay, scott. we appreciate the reporting. it's a critical story. let us know what developments you get. meantime, in paris authorities are launching an
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investigation into what started the catastrophic fire that ravaged the notre dame cathedral. take a look at these images. stunning before and after images. you can see the pile of rubble right in front of the altar there. the cross and statues are still standing strong. melissa bell is live in paris with the latest. melissa, what's the latest both in terms of the investigation and also just the feeling on the ground among parisians? >> reporter: the latest on the investigation is that paris prosecutors who opened the investigation into what they believe was an accidental fire. nonetheless the question of how this fire was sparked in the attic of notre dame remains unanswered this wednesday morning. i would like to show you the facade this morning. you can see the fire trucks parked outside. firefighters have been working through the night. we know it for a fact. we have been seeing the lights of their torches flicker through the windows of the building. what they are trying to do is establish that the ed difice is
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secure and also to get the bottom of the crucial question of how the fire was started. the fire spread so quickly and intensely that it caused the damage it did. although of course here amongst the crowds that continue to file through to come see for themselves, tourists, ordinary parisians themselves. it is a relief much of the structure is still standing as you can see on the facade of notre dame. the outpourings of emotion continue even as the investigation continues and we try to get to the bottom of how precisely the fire started. that will continue this evening. this is, of course, holy week. tonight they will be holding a mass they hold every year during holy week. the christ mass is normally set to be held inside notre dame. that will be blocks away with
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catholics gathering to mourn what was loss and to express thanks for all that was saved. beyond the exterior, spared by the devastating fire crucially so many artifacts were saved. so many of the relics crucial to the catholics are in safe hands. there is a wednesday morning, an awful lot for the catholic community, for france, and for anyone around the world who cares about notre dame to be thankful for. poppy? >> melissa bell, thaucnk you fo that reporting. up next, he's running for president and says he can rebuild the blue wall for democrats in the midwest. tim ryan is with us next. ♪ lim and doug. hmm. exactly. liberty mutual customizes your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. nice. but, uh... what's up with your... partner? oh. well, we just spend all day telling everyone how we customize car insurance, because no two people are alike, so...
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industrial midwest. i spent a lot of time in your district, specifically in ohio reporting. i know how upset you are about the gm plant closing. that's part of why you are running for president. i think the american people want to know, we want to know what could you as president do to change that and similar plant closures? gm's plant closed because of market forces, not because of who is president >> we need an industrial policy in the united states where the president of the united states is actually driving the next generation of jobs. we are so divided right now that we are starting to lose the long-term economic battle. so the president should be sitting down with the private industry, the department of energy, department of defense, national science foundation and say, okay, how do we win the electric vehicle market? there are one to two million electric vehicles in the united states or around the world. by 2030 there will be 30 million of those. i want to make those in the united states. i want to make the batteries in the united states.
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the charging stations in the united states. but the president of the united states has to drive this agenda with public-private partnerships, incentives for car companies, cut the workers in on the deal. that's the next generation of manufacturing. i want it to happen in the united states and make sure the investment goes to distressed communities, communities of color, communities that have been left behind the last 30, 40 years. this isn't just about gm two weeks ago. >> that's dicey when you talk about capitalism and picking and choosing. >> well, not really. you have to have a coordinated effort. we didn't go to the moon saying, i hope the private sector gets us there. it was the public sector setting parameters, making investments and relying on the free enterprise system and creativity we have in the united states to get us there. we have to do it in solar, wind, additive manufacturing. these are areas growing 25 to 30% a year and the president is asleep at the switch.
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>> i remember after 2016 you were on and we talked about the economic disorientation of places like youngstown, ohio, in your district. what is it democrats -- forget the president for a moment -- don't get about the people of ohio and what they want to hear? >> we have become primarily a coastal party. almost two-thirds of the house caucus lives on saltwater. the industrial midwest has been forgotten about by the democrats in a lot of ways. i want to bring it back. i don't think we can be a national party if we don't run strong in the midwest, rebuild the blue wall, start winning in the south, start winning in rural areas. we have given up on rural america, too. rural america is in a recession. farmers haven't made a profit in five years. they have the exact same problems as we have in ohio around manufacturing job loss, opiates. it's meth in places like rural america. their downtowns are falling apart. we need a national agenda to
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plug the communities back in >> there are proposals to do that. like the green new deal. that's a national agenda, for example. what you just laid out for us is based on capitalism. are you concerned that more democrats now, according to gallup's polling view socialism favorably more than viewing capitalism favorably. is that a dangerous line for the party? >> i'm concerned about it. if we are going to decarbonize the american economy it won't be a bureaucracy in washington, d.c. that's going to make it happen. it will be targeted government investments that need to be robust. it will be the free market that at the end of the day will make it happen. they have the magic of the free market. they have the innovation, creativity, the profit motive. the government isn't going to completely decarbonize the american economy. we have to work with them. you can be hostile toward income
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inequality, concentration of wealth, greed. we can't be hostile to the system. >> depends on how you define socialism. the democrats have one definition and the republicans are trying to turn it into a nasty word. you are for medicare for all. how do you pay for it? >> some kind of public option we could make sure we get to people. i think it's a deal where the reality is you are not going to pay private insurance anymore. you are going to pay into a public system. in many instances now people can't even get into any system. we need the public system in place. some kind of public option for people to go to >> and people don't keep private insurance or they do? >> i would not take anybody's private insurance away. >> that's what the medicare for all bill would do. >> yes. >> you have cosponsored the one. >> it's aspirational.
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how to get everybody covered >> i hear you, but you put your name on that. you cosponsored it but you are saying i wouldn't do part of what we are going to do >> well, we are not doing it tomorrow. how do we get everybody in the united states covered? i don't back down from that. it's important. it's a human right for everyone in america to have health care. we don't get there tomorrow. how do we get people into a public option if they can't get health care anywhere else. if you like your private insurance, you can keep it. as we build the system out it is important to have the public option >> the last sitting house member to be elected president was james garfield in 1880. >> where was he from? >> good point. >> he was from ohio. history repeats itself >> it's an asset. >> that's what i'm talking about. >> you twisted that around. that's an asset. the front runners in iowa and new hampshire, i can pull them up for you. joe biden, bernie sanders, pete
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buttigieg, elizabeth warren, kamala harris. what do you have that they don't have? >> i can rebuild this blue wall and i think i understand best what our economy has gone through in the last 30, 40 years. i have lived in this community. my wife has lived in the community. my family has lived in this community. because of that, i also understand where we need to go. we have been pushing these newer technologies in places like youngstown, ohio, around something like additive manufacturing. i understand where the economy is going because i have been on the ground. i'm watching the old economy die. i know where the new economy needs to go and i know the president is asleep at the switch. >> quickly before we get to something else, something new for you. >> fun lightning round. >> quick on this fact. you are a white man >> i am. >> are you committed to a diverse ticket meaning if you were the candidate would your vice presidential pick be a woman or a minority?
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>> i'm not sure. we'll see where it goes by then. clearly that's the democratic party. that is america. my administration, probably my ticket would represent the diversity of the united states of america. i have been in the race one week. >> you don't have all the answers? it's been seven days, congressman >> i hope i have the opportunity to sit back and figure out who my vice president will be. >> fun lightning round. here at "new day" we love music. we play it all the time, not enough for the viewers but in the commercial breaks the crew place it and we have favorites. john berman is a deadhead. i'm trapped in the '80s. john avlon is a u2 fan boy. poppy harlow loves country music. so your favorite music genre? >> i'm a dave matthews junkie. tim reynolds, unbelievable. and bruce springsteen. you can't be from youngstown,
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ohio. >> he has a song which is not a flattering positive song. >> it speaks to the economic issues, you know? and "born in the usa," many people don't get the lyrics. that's our area. in some ways i'm a bruce springsteen democrat >> your favorite music is bruce springsteen? >> dave matthews. >> oh, interesting. what song best captures your campaign? >> i played for my opening "closer to free" by the b odine. everybody wants to be free. everybody wants to be closer to free. everybody wants to be loved. i thought it captured where we want to be. the connection we are missing which is what music does. it connects us. if you want to look at the underlying problem in the country, we are disconnected. we think we're more connected because we have phones, e-mails and all this stuff.
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but as president, there is one thing we could do is reconnect the country >> bring back music. i agree. music is healing. that's a country-wide concert is what we need >> remember live-aid? >> yeah. absolutely. >> congressman ryan, thanks. >> i handled the double team okay. >> tough cookie. >> i was a little scared. >> when you have two women in the chair. >> that's what i'm saying. i have a wife and a daughter. i'm sort of used to this >> thank you. >> great to talk to you. >> meanwhile former massachusetts governor bill weld is the first republican to try to take on president trump. why he says he could not stay on the sidelines any longer. he's next.
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president trump now has a primary challenger, former massachusetts governor bill weld is jumping into the race saying if trump is re-elected it would be, quote, a political tragedy, end quote. what would he focus on and what's his path to victory? let's ask him.
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republican presidential candidate bill weld joins us now. good morning >> great to be with you as always from sunny manchester, new hampshire. >> it looks beautiful at the moment there. let's start with your path to victory. as you well know, history doesn't have a lot of examples of primary challengers to incumbent presidents being successful. so what makes you think this moment is any different? >> well, the last five primary challengers to a sitting president running for re-election, those presidents all lost. when there were no challengers, those presidents won. that's a data point. politically, if you want the nuts and bolts, my strategy would be focus initially on the six new england states with particular emphasis on new hampshire because if i can show well in nampl, even win the primary, that has a domino effect on other primaries around the country. almost an electrical effect.
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the first in the nation primary gives new hampshire a lot of clout as a state. the midatlantic states, i have spent a lot of time in pennsylvania as a native of new york, maryland, delaware. early on i will be doing partly for fund raising and partly for political reasons a sweep through california, oregon, washington. mr. trump and california don't seem to get along well. i think there is promise there. california moved its primary from the middle of june up to much earlier. then the intermountain west, the mountain states and the last question would be the rust belt. i think a place like wisconsin i could do well. i know the president won that state at the end it was ignored by the democrats the last 30 days of the election. the republicans didn't do well there in the midterms. there are places in the deep south which would be tough, i grant you. the rest of the country, fair game. >> it's interesting to hear your strategy. back to history for a second.
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when the incumbents haven't won the primary challenger weakened the incumbent, but it's not that the challenger won. is that your strategy? >> no, no, that's correct. that's correct. my strategy that i just laid out for you is a strategy to win, not a strategy to weaken anybody. i'm in this for the best reasons, think. itch spent time governing in an executive capacity. when i was governor in massachusetts i cut spending in real terms. i was voted the most fiscally conservative governor in the united states. with all deference to the office, i don't think mr. trump is an economic conservative. he has not vetoed one dollar of spending. i like to tax cut. i cut taxes 15 times. i'm not sure how serious mr. trump is about governing honestly. he has a one-word environmental policy -- hoax. a one-word immigration policy --
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wall. i think sometimes his lack of experience in preparation for the office shows >> given that, nine of ten republicans approve of the job president is doing. 89% of republicans still say they approve of the job he's doing. it doesn't sound like they are looking for an alternative at the moment >> they haven't been offered an alternative until now. now i get to start making my case. i've got to tell you, i have been in new hampshire a lot since i gave my initial speech in february. i get a very good response. there's probably a couple of people a day who say, no, no, i'm okay, i don't want to shake a hand. everybody else says, thank you for what you are doing. the polls you are reading about republicans are dominated by the republican state committee, town committee members who are absolutely under the thumb of the republican national committee and the trump campaign who issued orders to please keep there from being a primary.
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avoid any contests. at the end of the day it comes out to who shows up to vote in the primaries. new hampshire, massachusetts, 18 other states, independents, unenrolled voters can take a republican ballot on primary day. my job is to make sure millennials, general xers, suburban female voters who may not buy all of mr. trump's dog food take that republican ballot. i have heard from a lot of people including democrats, not even all conservative democrats. i have heard liberal democrats say they are going to take the republican ballot to come in and vote for me because they want to cast a vote directly against mr. trump. one of the questions is how many democrats are going to say, i would like to cast a vote directly against mr. trump instead of throwing a dart at one of 15 very good but still one of 15 democratic candidates >> that's an interesting math calculation. you brought up the economy.
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under president trump the u.s. added $2 trillion to the federal debt. how do you explain that republicans don't seem to be that concerned about this anymore? >> you know, i am. i think it is an unfair burden on millennials and general xers who have to pay the bill. people don't understand the long-term consequences of the deficits. when i came into office the outgoing administration said the state is bankrupt. we cannot pay our bills as they fall due. the federal government going on $30 trillion in debt could not pay bills unless the chinese and others bought up our treasuries. the day the chinese and other countries say we are not going to buy your treasuries anymore it's not enough that the dollar is the reserve currency. we'll be unable to meet our obligations. that's called insolvency. nobody in washington worries about that. because they love to spend money. the demes want to spend more on social programs.
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republicans want to spend more on military, 5% each. at the end of the day they argue, argue, argue. then they get together and decide to compromise by raising everything 10%. you couldn't do it in a state government. all state governors are required by the constitution to balance their budget. the truth is we should have the same requirement for the federal government. >> i want to ask you about the new report that the attorney general is changing the immigration law in order to hold asylum seekers indefinitely in prison, in detention. to hold them even if they have a legitimate claim of asylum. there is a problem obviously at the border. there is a humanitarian crisis. the numbers spiked of families showing up. what's the answer? >> well, that's not the answer. listen, i knew bill barr in the old days. he is a hell of a guy, a hell of a lawyer. very strong. as he said in the confirmation hearings, he intends not to be
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bullied. but he's 0 for 2 recently. holding them indefinitely in prison so they can't get asylum doesn't strike me as lawful. a couple of weeks ago he said if the fbi opens an investigation on a trump organization that it's spying, that's not spying. our country separates the investigative and prosecution function. i spent time trying to keep politics out of law enforcement. it's's coro sieve when that happens. i thought the attorney general didn't take off the white house hat when he came to head the justice department. i take it seriously. when an agency opens an investigation, it might be bad news for the target, but it is not spying. it's just opening an investigation >> very quickly, the mueller report is going to come out tomorrow. you have said you were his boss
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in the 1980s. as the u.s. attorney for the district of manhattan. you said it was frightening to be robert mueller's boss. why is that? >> he's not only one of the most -- he's the straightest guy i have ever met. absolutely ramrod straight. marvelous person. very, very thorough as a prosecutor. that was our hallmark in the office in boston and washington. negative all avenues of escape for the target of your investigation. we got 109 convictions out of 111 public corruption cases. my political guess is the release of the report will be a nonevent. whatever life there was in the report will have been squeezed out of it by the time it is released. the truth is the whole damn thing should be made public except for classified information. i think it is okay to take out some of the derogatory stuff. but i find it telling that the dominant emotion in washington
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appears to be fear of the president's wrath. how that much anger can get into one head and stay there, i don't know how he can even remotely approach getting the job done. he's so angry about so many things in so many directions all the time. you need calm in the oval office. >> okay. now to our music lightning round. here at "new day" we love music. we love to hear about people's favorite bands, et cetera. i'm trapped in the '80s musically. john berman is a deadhead. poppy harlow loves country music. what's your favorite music genre, governor? >> i came up on the stones and then the dead, particularly american beauty and working man's dead. a little bit later i thought suzanne vega was cool. current singers, jesse winchester, that type of country, i really like. little feet. k.d. lang is the best singer alive. if i get an office, man, she's
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singing at the first party. there will be a lot of parties in the white house. a lot of music parties. i couldn't be more under the thumb as mick jagger might say >> governor, why didn't you lead with that? there will be concerts and parties at the white house. isn't that alone enough for people to vote for you? >> well, i think it might be enough for the millennials and the gen-xers and the baby boomers like me. we are only stoners in the sense that we love the rolling stones. >> sure. >> thank you for clarifying that. former governor bill weld. thanks for playing along and answering all of the policy questions, et cetera. great to talk to you >> thank you, alisyn. >> we'll talk again. >> i love this new addition to the show. >> me, too. >> every interview should end that way. >> all right. >> ahead, a community demanding
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north carolina, are demanding answers this morning from the mayor and the police chief after the release of body cam video linked to the controversial police shooting of a black man there. our dianne gallagher is live in
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charlotte with more. what can you tell us? >> reporter: poppy, over the past couple days now the community has said they feel like they've waited long enough for answers. still an investigation they will probably have to wait a little more but danquirs franklin was shot and willed by officer wende kerl three weeks ago in that burger king parking lot and the video was not released until monday. the topic has been deescalation tactics. i want you to watch the video, it is disturbing. we will talk a little about the reaction on the back end. >> let me see your hands now. now. >> i'm crossing. i'm crossing. >> get out of the way. sir, put the gun down. >> put it down. put it down now. >> put it down. >> he's got a gun. he's got a gun. drop the gun. drop the weapon. >> ma'am, get out of the way. >> ma'am, get out of the way. >> drop the gun.
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>> drop the gun. >> drop it. >> drop it now. >> drop the weapon. >> drop it. >> i said drop it. >> drop it. >> drop the weapon now. >> put it on the ground. >> put it on the ground. >> put the gun on the ground. >> so you may not be able to see this in the video because we have -- we have frozen it there so you can't see those last moments of danquirs franklin's life but he is removing that weapon by the barrel and appears to be putting it down. so many in the community are upset about the fact that they feel that at that point he is complying with those orders being shouted by the officers. again, it is still under investigation. the chief of police here has said that he is not going to vilify franklin, he is not defending the officer at this time, he simply wants to wait for facts and the investigation to be completed. poppy, it could be -- and alisyn, it could be six to eight
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weeks before the da once they get that case makes some sort of decision on whether to charge the officer. >> it's so nerve-racking to watch that video and watch how that all played out. thank you very much for reporting on it. french officials threw cold water on president trump's firefighting advice, much to steven colbert's delight. that's next. w do you get skin hy 24/7? aveeno® with prebiotic oat. it hydrates and softens skin. so it looks like this... and you feel like this. aveeno® daily moisturizer get skin happy™
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well, as fire engulfed the iconic notre dame cathedral president trump tweeted out his advice to put out the flames, then comedian steven colbert gave his analysis. >> in the midst of all of this when the fire was raging at its hottest donald trump offered his help, tweeting, so horrible to watch the massive fire at notre dame cathedral in paris. perhaps flying water tankers could be used to put it out. must act quickly. does everything every time there is an emergency in france
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they're like, the cathedral is on fire, we must check donald trump's twitter feed? what is going on? oh, no. he says we must act quickly, get the hoses, get water. why did we not think of water? we've been using -- we've been using cheese. delicious cheese. >> just so good. >> so hilarious. i mean, as you pointed out, though, french officials later said that had they -- that president trump's suggestion could actually have caused the collapse of notre dame. >> not good. okay. "new day" continues right now. the president is feeling good. his aides are concerned that his mood might change once he sees what's in the report. they are worried about his wrath. you don't want to have a president coming down on you
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publicly. we are not looking at it that way at all. we know how we already feel which is no collusion. it isn't just paris, the whole world has come together. >> the structure is going to stand. that outpouring of emotion continues. >> you've got the whole country rising up to say they are not going to destroy something we love. police in denver are searching for a woman they say is armed and dangerous. >> she has made concerning comments that she has expressed an infatuation with columbine. >> we want our schools to be a safe place, we take this threat seriously. >> announcer: this is "new day" with alisyn camerota and john berman. >> good morning, everyone. welcome to your "new day." it is wednesday, april 17th, 8:00 now in the east. john berman is off this week, poppy harlow joins me. great to have you here today. >> good to be here. >> it's already been a fast show and we have another fast hour. >> a newsy show. >> it has indeed. the wait is almost over for the release of the redacted version of the mueller report. this is happening tomorrow. cnn has learned that president


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