Skip to main content

tv   At This Hour With Kate Bolduan  CNN  April 19, 2019 8:00am-9:00am PDT

8:00 am
hello, everyone. thanks so much for joining me. i'm kate bolduan joining you from washington today. it's been 24 hours since the release of the redacted mueller report. it's taken just about 24 hours to fully digest the details inside. after reading all 448 pages, here is what we know. we know the special counsel did not find evidence that the trump campaign coordinated with the russian government in its election interference activities. on the question of obstruction of justice, we also know while the special counsel understood a sitting president could not be indicted, robert mueller could have cleared the president of any wrongdoing, and he did not do that. that decision clearly now left to congress. after reading the report, here is the take from the top democrat on the house judiciary committee. >> based on the reading, 180 pages of evidence or so, do you believe the president committed obstruction of justice? >> i believe he committed obstruction of justice, yes. >> cnn's manu raju is on capitol
8:01 am
hill with more. chairman nadler is not just talking. he's demanding more and pretty much right away. what do you know about the subpoena he issued this morning? >> saying may 1st is the deadline he's demanding the full mueller report and the underlying information to be turned over from the department of justice over to capitol hill. and if there is not a response to nadler's satisfaction, there could certainly be a court fight. what nadler has been asking for is everything, including grand jury information. now, the justice department came back yesterday and said that they would be willing to show a small group of members a less redacted version of the mueller report, but they were not willing to turn over that grand jury information. and that is what democrats say they are entitled to, and they want to use that information as a road map for their own investigation up here on the hill about potential obstruction of justice. now, kate, that is not the only subpoena that will likely be
8:02 am
issued by this committee. there are five subpoenas that have been authorized for former white house officials who cooperated with the mueller investigation. that includes don mcgahn, the former white house counsel, who the mueller report said was ordered by president trump to fire the special counsel. he did not follow those orders. expect a subpoena for people like don mcgahn and other white house officials to be issued also in the coming days. but nevertheless, this is a fight that could very well end up in court. we'll see how it turns out, but may 1st, a new deadline for the justice department to provide congress with everything that democrats are seeking. kate. >> all right, let's see where the fight goes. this is the first step in what is a long road ahead. >> this morning, president trump is literally calling the testimony in the mueller report bs. in a series of tweets, the president says that the accounts of some of his closest now former advisers were, quote, only given to make the other person look good or me to look bad. that reaction from the president
8:03 am
may not be surprising since the mueller report lays out multiple instances where the president directed white house officials and others to take actions in order to sabotage mueller's investigation. cnn's politics reporter, chris cillizza, is here with much more. lay it out for us. >> okay, here's the thing. you can debate about what the mueller report proved or didn't prove. it proved one thing clearly that you should have already known, donald trump lies, and he does it and i think he makes it okay for people below him to do so. sarah sanders and others. let's run through it. here are a few examples from the mueller report. trump directs don mcgahn to tell rod rosenstein to fire mueller. mcgahn refuses. trump calls him back in when "the new york times" breaks the news that this actually happened and says that mcgahn, why is mcgahn taking notes? he's talking to mueller. he was told to talk to mueller by the white house. again, mcgahn sticks by his story. it shows you that donald trump telling don mcgahn to deny something he knows is true, which is that he told don mcgahn
8:04 am
to fire mueller. okay, next one. because there's plenty. okay, trump tries to get deputy attorney general rod rosenstein to take responsibility for the james comey firing. you'll remember, kate, when that went down, spring of 2017, getting my dates mixed up, spring of 2017, trump initially tries to say that the memo that rosenstein wrote is the impetus for firing comey. that comey had broken the chain of command repeatedly during the 2016 election. he had seen this memo and trump reacted to the memo. but we of course know even though trump said that publicly, that that was the reason he fired comey, we know that's not true. rosenstein refuses to do so and says he's not in favor of putting out a false story. trump, no problem with passing on the story. this one is my favorite one, okay, trump asked corey lewandowski, remember him? he was the campaign manager before paul manafort. what a life. he calls lewandowski in on two occasions and asked lewandowski
8:05 am
to basically say that jeff sessions should unrecuse himself. jeff sessions recused himself during the early 2017 because he had been a surrogate for trump during his confirmation hearings. he had not told the whole truth or all of the truth as it related to his dealings with with the russians. he recuses himself, makes trump angry. trump tells lewandowski to tell sessions to unrecuse himself. he says to tell him if he does so, he will be a hero. sessions doesn't know about this, why? because lewandowski is afraid to tell sessions trump wants him to unrecuse. lewandowski tells another white house official, you should tell sessions to unrecuse. that guy refuses to tell sessions so sessions is not aware of it, but the point of all of this, donald trump is someone who is totally and completely comfortable not only not telling the truth publicly, but pressuring and cajoling the people who work for him in the white house to do the same.
8:06 am
and in some instances like don mcgahn, the resistance to following the president's orders may have saved his presidency. >> may be the one and only thing here. great to see you. thanks for laying it out. >> there's clearly, as chris lays out, a lot to look at here and more. let's do that. let's do that with cnn's team that has logged countless, i tried to count. i'm kidding, i did not. countless hours reporting on this investigation, sat outside courthouses, town houses, special counsel's offices for months. chief political analyst gloria borger is here, pamela brown, crime and justice reporter shimon prokupecz, and kara scannell. we could not fit them all in the room. >> gloria sat outside the special counsel's office. >> every morning. >> hours. >> these are hours we will never get back. >> hours well worth the work. and there are so many other people in front of the cameras and behind. i love the opportunity to get you all together.
8:07 am
gloria, i have been wondering as we digest the report, from all of your reporting, what is the most important question? do you think had, and has it been answered or has it still not been answered? >> well, there were so many questions, and there are so many answers in this report. i think first and foremost, the question we were all looking to get answered was the depth of the russian campaign to sabotage our election. and we found out about how deep and broad it was. and we also found out that trump was clearly helped by a foreign entity. and we also found out that why there was no so-called collusion or conspiracy, that the trump campaign was willing to accept this help when it was offered to them. and the second thing, and i think we would all agree on this because we have been trying to report it, is the extent to which donald trump really tried to undermine the special counsel investigation. and it is all laid out, as chris
8:08 am
cillizza just did, in chapter and verse in the report, and it really kind of lifts the veil on the president himself and on how the people around him were trying to save him from himself. and you know, mueller made it very clear, i think, that we're not for the office of legal counsel and the decision you can't indict a sitting president, i think we would have been looking at some indictments right now. >> pamela, so many times you had stories detailing parts of the investigation, detailing some of the things we read in detail and in testimony. in the mueller report. and the president over and over again in his office over and over again throughout this had called it fake news and denied things. and so i think one thing that we definitely learned from this report is by and large, the reporting has bared out. i wonder now, what do you do the next time the president denies a story? >> ignore him like we have been.
8:09 am
that's just par for the course. along the way, the president would attack the media, call the media fake news, say the media was making up sources. well, guess what, all of these stories he was attacking, so mane have been borne out, the reporting has been born out in the report, not with anonymous sources but white house officials on the record, speaking underalty of lying to the fbi in this report kwauberated. it is true as bill barr said that a lot of the obstruction case laid out in the report is already publicly known because it was publicly reported and corroborated in this report. what robert mueller did and his team was piece it all together and show a pattern of behavior by the president and a motive of why he was trying to, you know, obstruct justice according to the report. and so i definitely think that it just backs up the reporting along the way was solid. >> shimon, go ahead. >> the thing is, you also can
8:10 am
see that, i don't think this is going to happen, no one does, the president is not going to learn his lesson here. if i was the bhous, if i was the president, i would be worried because investigators are cle clearly paying attention to everything they're saying, everything they're doing. certainly as it relates to investigations. there are still ongoing investigations in new york, in the southern district of new york, that the president potentially has exposure on. if the white house thinks they can continue to lie to us when we come to them with questions about the investigation, and the president thinks there aren't going to be repercussions for it, when you see what mueller said in his report about the lies that they gave publicly about the statements concerning the statements they made, they should be concerned. i know they won't, but they should be. >> yeah, that's a really good point because mueller explicitly stated because of the power in his office, being the president, that his public statements hold weight, particularly as they were examining witness tampering, pressuring witnesses. >> honestly, what a lot of folks have been trying to say even
8:11 am
about tweets from day one, it's different when it's coming from the president of the united states. >> archive. >> manu is laying out that jerry nadler is not satisfied. he wants to see the full unredacted report. the redactions equal out to, what, in totality, about 36 pages, maybe 8% of what we are looking at. can you guys, have you been able to glean or learn anything from the redactions, the context the redactions could offer? >> i mean, caroline kelly, one of our colleagues has done a great job going through line by line of the report and was able to see that like barr said, much of it has to do with ongoing investigations. and we have seen that a chunk of that is roger stone, that's pretty clear. barr even acknowledged that, and a piece of it is also the russian social media influence campaign. there are other redactions in there, and a lot of those relate to these referrals. there are 14 referrals that were made, 12 of them are redacted. we don't know exactly what they are.
8:12 am
>> two cases we knew about. >> only two case. >> michael cohen is the big one. >> michael cohen and greg craig. there are 12 we don't know about. and then there were also, as mueller has been wrapping up, he's been transferring cases out. and there are two pieces of that that are also redacted that we don't know what those are. so there's a lot more activity that's happening here, and that is something that we don't learn from this report, and we won't learn because they're ongoing investigations. >> and gloria, one thing that you did a lot of reporting on was on the conversations, the back and forth about will he, won't he sit down for an in-person interview, the president with the special counsel. i'm still stuck this morning, and i read through the special counsel's maybe the shortest thing you could read, why they didn't pursue the subpoena. i'm still stuck on it. >> well, first of all, pamela and i, talk about hours we'll never get back, it was trying to decipher these conversations
8:13 am
between trump's attorneys and the mueller people, who as you know, were a black box. so we spent a lot of time doing this. and look, i think that mueller kind of lays it out in the report. number one, he didn't want to go through a protracted legal fight, which could take so much time, and they wanted to contain this investigation, i believe, to before the election. and to give it some time before the election. and also, he said it was sort of interesting, he said kind of we thought we had everything we needed. that in a way, they didn't need trump on obstruction. there was some line in it, where he sort of said, and then there was one other point, which we all have to remember, if he were to go to get a subpoena and approval for a subpoena, it would have to go to rod rosenstein. i'm not so sure that rod rosenstein would have approved it. so i think -- >> we know his view now on the obstruction case. >> the other thing i have thought about, if the president
8:14 am
is the target, he's the target of this obstruction investigation, how are you going to get him to incriminate himself? what lawyer would allow -- the lawyers made it clear, we're not going to allow mueller to ask questions about obstruction. so you know, in their mind, perhaps they say if we go and subpoena him, we would have to put him before the grand jury. he would have to take the fifth before the grand jury. so what's the point? besides creating an entire firestorm on the fact they have subpoenaed the president -- >> the only thing that sticks with me is if you want to get to intent or state of mind, there's no better way than to sit with somebody. >> i was curious about that. there was a line where there are several obstruction cases where the prosecutor didn't sit down and interview the person who was the target. and they seem to lay out what they believed to be the intent here. why the president was acting out, because the fbi may have uncovered information the president perceived was a crime
8:15 am
or could be personally or politically damaging, which is contradicts what bill barr had laid out, this picture of a sympathetic figure who was just fighting back on a investigation he believed was a hoax. i think there are definitely competing views of why this started. >> i think anyone who obstructs justice begins with being frustrated. >> mueller also didn't interview don jr. and said in the report that don jr. resists. that also i think is surprising they didn't pursue that further. >> great to see you guys. >> what are we going to do now? >> i'm sure we'll find something for you. coming up, forget president trump. democrats, they're taking aim at attorney general bill barr in the wake of the mueller report's release. is the attorney general playing politics? what does it mean going forward? plus, now that the mueller report is out, the great impeachment debate is renewed once again. one democratic house chairman says the time is now, but some in the house leadership say it's
8:16 am
time to move on. where do things go from here? that's next. as the one who is always trapped beneath the duvet i'm begging you... take gas-x. your tossing and turning isn't restlessness, it's gas! gas-x relieves pressure, bloating and discomfort... fast! so we can all sleep easier tonight. ♪ ♪ applebee's bigger, bolder grill combos. now that's eatin good
8:17 am
in the neighborhood. ♪ here i go again on my own ♪ goin' down the only road i've ever known ♪ ♪ like a drifter i was-- ♪ born to walk alone! keep goin' man! you got it! if you ride, you get it. ♪ here i go again geico motorcycle. 15 minutes could save you 15% or more. oneeeee... did you try this one? feel this one. it's amazing! twooooo... it's nice. but it's kinda pricey. hi. hi. you can't skimp on a decision this important. a mattress is where you'll spend over half your life and eat all your meals. but it's all good. just use pay it plan it. pay it plan it is a payment feature from american express. choose a monthly plan to split up large purchases over time with no interest and a fixed fee. need me to help you carry this to your car or... the powerful backing of american express.
8:18 am
don't live life without it. thanks to move free ultra 2in1... i keep up with this little one. see the world with this guy. and hit the town with these girls. in a clinical study, 4 out of 5 users felt better joint comfort. move free ultra. movement keeps us connected. we're oscar mayer deli fresh your very first sandwich,m... your mammoth masterpiece. and...whatever this was. because we make our meat with the good of the deli and no artificial preservatives. make every sandwich count with oscar mayer deli fresh. when it comes to scent, helen's motto is, "the more the better." so when she tried new gain scent blast detergent, she loved it. her son loves it, and her husband loves it, too. the delivery woman? hey you can't float everyone's boat. new gain scent blast. love it or hate it, it's intense.
8:19 am
or psoriatic arthritis, little things can be a big deal. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats differently. for psoriasis, 75% clearer skin is achievable, with reduced redness, thickness, and scaliness of plaques. for psoriatic arthritis, otezla is proven to reduce joint swelling, tenderness, and pain. and the otezla prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don't use if you're allergic to otezla. it may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. otezla is associated with an increased risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight loss. your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. upper respiratory tract infection and headache may occur. tell your doctor about your medicines and if you're pregnant or planning to be. ready to treat differently with a pill? otezla. show more of you.
8:20 am
president trump isn't the only person facing real and renewed krutany today following the redacted report's release. attorney general bill barr's credibility under question today as well after hinews conference yesterday. a news conference he held specifically and obviously precisely and intently before anyone could read the report. >> the white house fully cooperated with the special counsel's investigation, providing unfettered access to campaign and white house documents. directing senior aides to testify freely, and asserting no privilege claims. at the same time, the president
8:21 am
took no act that in fact deprived the special counsel of the documents and witnesses necessary to complete his investigation. >> and now, of course, we know that the mueller report tells a different story than that. not only did the president refuse to sit down for an in-person interview, an interview mueller requested, but trump's responses to the special counsel they considered incomplete. more than 30 times he said he couldn't recall, couldn't remember. joining me now is a former federal prosecutor elie honig and shan wu. great to have you guys here. what's your take now, elie, from a prosecutor's perspective, on bill barr? from the four-page memo to the press conference yesterday, and then comparing that now to the redacted report? >> i think bill barr's credibility and independence are in the trash.
8:22 am
>> really? >> i do. i think he's done lasting damage to himself and the department of justice. the starts with the biggest move he made is when he intercepted the obstruction of justice question from robert mueller. i think he was a little sneaky about how he did that. in his four-page memo, he says well, mueller didn't decide, which leaves it to me as attorney general. now it turns out mueller didn't decide for a very specific reason, because the memo that the doj policy said you cannot indict the sitting president, and it seems quite clear, this is something i'm looking forward to seeing robert mueller asked about, thought mueller intended to say congress, now it's in your court. you decide what to do. that was a huge game changing decision by barr. we saw smaller examples. the clip we showed. he's going out of his way to make excuses and arguments that don't hold up and were contradicted by mueller's report. >> shan, is there something between barr doing political spin as an appointee of the president and an honest difference of legal -- honest difference of opinion on legal
8:23 am
analysis? >> well, there would be. but i don't think that's the distinction barr is doing. the only thing that is transparent the way barr was promising to be transparent is how biased he is. i have to agree with elie. i think his performance is unconscionable. if you look at the legal analysis, you can look at that, and barr, of course, had this audition memo that he put out his idea of what can be obstruction, the president can't be indicted for it, and he didn't mention that at all in his summary, didn't mention it in his press conference. if you read the report, the special counsel's office does a beautifully written, crafted analysis of the obstruction, and they completely repudiate barr. >> let's get to that, if i can get to some areas of legal language and have you decipher. here is what they write. if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the president clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. based on the facts and
8:24 am
applicable legal standards, we're unable to reach that conclusion. the evidence we obtained presents difficult issues that prevent us from determining no criminal conduct occurred. accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime, it does not exonerate him. >> it's like a triple negative. if he was clear, we would tell you, and we're not saying anything. but i think what he's trying to do is work within the confines of the doj memo, the policy against indicting a sitting president. he says it earlier, basically, it would be unfair for us, we can't indict, but say we would indict when there's no mechanism for the president to defend himself as a normal defendant would in a court of law. so it's almost like mueller sets up this thing, there's only two options. i will tell you no good, he's clear, or i'll tell you it needs to go to the next step, which logically here can only be congress. >> i'm going to jump ahead just for the control room to the one, interesting footnote, shan, that i wanted to get to. because footnotes is where all
8:25 am
the interesting stuff comes out. here's what it says. a possible remedy through impeachment for abuses of hower would not substitute for potential criminal liability after a president leaves office. it goes on to say, to be written, impeachment is also a drastic and rarely invoked remedy and congress is not restricted to relying only on impeachment rather than making criminal law applicable to a former president as olc has recognized. this means what? i mean, are they suggesting this is not over once the president leaves office? >> he's suggesting that one possibility is we've preserved the evidence. he also says that they want to preserve all memories are fresh, preserve documents, preserve grand jury testimony. that's the memories, and after he leaves office, he can be indicted. >> a little ominous. >> absolutely. he's been clear what his intention was, to tell everyone what can be done. he set the stage for that. >> it's a little ominous.
8:26 am
a little bit of suggesting, hey, when this president is out of office, if there's a charge there, go at it. i think the counter to that is let's watch -- >> i also see a possible, he didn't have to say that. he didn't have to put that in. >> think when you read the entire report, it's really, i think they look back to the old watergate blueprint that was put forth that way. that's what they did here. the analysis on obstruction, he lays it out for congress to say it's okay. you can make this criminal referral. it's okay, you have a constitutional mandate to look into this. and there's no problem constitutionally from their analysis. >> fascinating. great to see you. thank you so much. coming up for us still, the heated debate among democrats on whether to pursue the president's -- whether to pursue the president's impeachment. some want to move on. others want to act now. that debate, that's next.
8:27 am
♪ corey is living with metastatic breast cancer, which is breast cancer that has spread to other parts of her body. she's also taking prescription ibrance with an aromatase inhibitor, which is for postmenopausal women with hormone receptor-positive her2- metastatic breast cancer as the first hormonal based therapy. ibrance plus letrozole was significantly more effective at delaying disease progression versus letrozole. patients taking ibrance can develop low white blood cell counts, which may cause serious infections that can lead to death. before taking ibrance, tell your doctor if you have fever, chills, or other signs of infection, liver or kidney problems, are pregnant, breastfeeding, or plan to become pregnant. common side effects include low red blood cell and low platelet counts, infections, tiredness, nausea, sore mouth,
8:28 am
abnormalities in liver blood tests, diarrhea, hair thinning or loss, vomiting, rash, and loss of appetite. corey calls it her new normal because a lot has changed, but a lot hasn't. ask your doctor about ibrance. the #1 prescribed fda-approved oral combination treatment for hr+/her2- mbc. oral combination treatment travel and dining now kayak and opentable let you earn travel rewards every time you dine. earn points with each restaurant reservation on opentable and redeem them for hotel discounts on kayak. get started at
8:29 am
you wouldn't accept from any one else. so why accept it from your allergy pills? most pills don't finish the job because they don't relieve nasal congestion. flonase allergy relief is different. flonase relieves sneezing, itchy, watery eyes and a runny nose, plus nasal congestion, which pills don't. flonase helps block 6 key inflammatory substances. most pills only block one. and 6 is greater than 1. start your day with flonase for more complete allergy relief. flonase. this changes everything. ♪ pardon the interruption but this is big! now at t-mobile buy any samsung galaxy s10
8:30 am
and get a galaxy s10e free!
8:31 am
game over. that's president trump's message to democrats after the release of the redacted mueller report. that does not, though, seem to be the case on capitol hill. what are democrats going to do now? house majority leader steny hoyer says nothing in the report makes pushing for impeachment quote/unquote worthwhile, but a top house chairwoman, maxine waters says this, congress's
8:32 am
failure to impeach is complacency in the face of the erosion of our democracy and constitutional norms. congress's failure to impeach would set a dangerous precedent and imperil the nation. joining me now, markpressin. he's here. again, what do democrats do now? i think that's maybe the other than exactly what do you think happened in the report and how is the white house going to answer to it, this is the question. what do democrats do? >> well, democrats are certain going to continue investigating president trump. what they call it, whether it's in pursuit of impeachment or just in pursuit of trying to embarrass him heading into the next election, it's pretty more the latter. the problem right now is, as you note right there, you have steny hoyer, surely nancy pelosi, others have said listen, impeachment is going to sidetrack us. it becomes too political. let's just let the report, let the voters make the decision, but we'll still do our job going in and investigating the president through our ability as the majority party in the house.
8:33 am
>> i do wonder if they have set something of a -- if there is a road map they have set on kind of the steps forward for the democratic caucus. because you see a split in already the language and where people want to be and where they think it should go, and nancy pelosi's statement yesterday attacked bar for misleading the public, but also said it's imperative the rest of the report be made available to congress. other than that step, with that step, i do wonder if that would change any opinion to lead anyone to a more bipartisan move towards impeachment. i wonder if she has taken any steps to lay out a road map for democrats on what they should do here. i don't see it. >> no, so certainly not how to get over this hurdle right now of impeachment. if you go back to how they handled it so far and have been able to hold the base back from being so vocal on the issue of impeachment, they have been successful so far. the base has been vocal on other issues that have been
8:34 am
problematic for democrats as a party, as a whole, but she is going to hold a call on monday. she's going to have all of her house democrats are going to be on this conference call. i can imagine it's going to be raucous. but at the end, i think we're going to hear what we heard steny hoyer say and say let jerry nadler, let richard neal, let maxine waters, let these chairmen and chairwomen of the house of representatives do the investigating that congress is allowed to do. >> i mean, as just an observer of congress now, if mueller was the kind of definitive report on russia and the russia investigation, i wonder what more partisan elected officials are going to uncover. tax returns kind of maybe is the exception that mueller hasn't uncovere eed but we'll see. >> as mark and i were talking about speaker pelosi, speaker pelosi also says congress will not be silent on the mueller report's revelations. but what exactly does that mean? we'll ask a top democrat in the house next. experience the style, craftsmanship and technology
8:35 am
that have made the rx the leading luxury suv of all time. lease the 2019 rx 350 for $409 a month for 36 months. experience amazing at your lexus dealer. for moments that matter tracfone keeps you connected, for less. ♪ our talk text and data plans start at fifteen dollars a month, no contract. all with nationwide coverage... tracfone. for moments that matter.
8:36 am
8:37 am
8:38 am
all with nationwide coverage...
8:39 am
hey allergy muddlers... achoo! your sneezes turn heads? try zyrtec... starts working hard at hour one... and works twice as hard when you take it again the next day. zyrtec muddle no more. the first time in history that investigates have detailed misconduct of a president. reports that total thousands and thousands of pages, multiple, multiple volumes, and chronicle some of the darkest moments of the american presidency. john dean was witness to one of those as the former white house counsel to president nixon. here is how he puts the mueller report in context. >> what i did is i looked on my
8:40 am
shelf for the watergate, senate watergate committee report. i looked at the iran contra report. i also looked at the ken starr report, which is too big to bring to the set here. it's four volumes, over 2,000 words. i have to tell you, i read all of those, and in 400 words, this report from the special counsel is more damning than all of those reports about a president. this is really a devastating report. >> but with no action coming from the justice department, what is congress to do? house speaker nancy pelosi has said congress will not be silent, but what will they then say? debbie dingell of michigan is joining me now for more on this. thank you for being here. >> good to be here. >> all along this investigation, and i was just telling you, when i look back and we talk, you say you always have said take it slow, get all the facts. we have other things we should also be focused on. with the redacted mueller report
8:41 am
out, where are you on this now? >> well, i read it last night. i want to go back this weekend and read it more in depth. it clearly bothers me. i mean, i didn't sleep last night. not just because i was reading the report, but things that are in it are deeply disturbing. i think the fact of the matter is congress has a very serious responsibility for oversight. i think the house intelligence committee, the how judiciary committee are going to continue to do that. we'll have a discussion as a caucus on monday. things in there are very disturbing. but i also think we've got to remember the american people are worried about a lot of other things so we have to do both. i think for me, the mueller report is a road map for the november 2020 election. and people need to remember the kind of behavior they say, the fact that, by the way, all of us need to be concerned, nobody can deny that russia tried to interfere in the 2016 election. it's clearly trying again, and those same things are there, facebook, et cetera. how do we make sure people
8:42 am
aren't wanting to be involved to their benefit. i think we have to have oversight. that's a clear responsibility. but we also have to get about lowering prescription drug prices. >> do you think you'll learn more from an unredacted -- if there were no redactions, do you think it would change anything? because that's the next step that i'm hearing from jerry nadler, issuing a subpoena for the full report. >> i want to hear mueller come to the hill and tell us what he thinks. he doesn't have evidence there was, but he can't -- he can't say that he's not guilty either. you know, there's a lot of to the line but back from the line. it's disturbing. but you know, here's a reality. i have to say that i agree with our leaders. i'm deeply sderbed by the behavior in the report, and there were people who didn't do what the president wanted them to do. there are people clearly lying and not telling the truth. the fact of the matter is we have a republican senate. we're not going to impeach this
8:43 am
president in the 18 months between now and next november. >> from that position, and that is what the speaker has said, unless there's overwhelming bipartisan support -- >> unless there's something -- well, i'm not -- this report does not vindicate the president in any way. it turns your stomach. >> but bipartisan support for the impeachment process. >> you don't want to tear the country apart. you have maxine waters who says -- >> i respect her. we have rashida threabwhose districts is right next to mine. i don't disagree with her that there aren't things that are deeply disturbing. this president has attacked some of the fundamental foundations of our constitution. >> they're not wrong for calling for impeachment right now? >> they have their view, i think it's not going to accomplish what we would accomplish when we know the senate is not going to do it. we can keep getting the facts, but we can't let it sidetrack us from worrying about the canis r
8:44 am
canister, the asthma canister that is costing $700 and hurting the working mom. >> you represent a district in a state trump won. you always talk about what your constituents are telling you. when you say this is the report lays out something of a road map for 2020, what -- is running on russia what you think your constituents are looking for? >> i have a very odd district, which is why i told you all donald trump could win when nobody believed me. i have ann arbor, people are very upset and want to see the president impeached. i have to tell them, i agree with you that what the president did is wrong, but it could hurt us if we focus on it too much. i have the muslim community, largest population of muslims that have been upset since this president has been elected and are even more upset now. then i have the down rivers which are working men and women in the auto industry, but everywhere i go from ann arbor to down river, they're worried
8:45 am
about prescription drugs, they're worried about pre-existing conditions. about fixing the blank roads. in michigan, we use the roads, but i won't use it on air. i was in the flat rock mustang plant, mustang, 100th birthday, they're still voting for dt because they think he cares about them on trade deals. they're talking about a lot of issues. we can talk about more than one issue at a time. >> tell that to everybody on cable news. with that -- >> and we need to talk more about the mueller report on cable news. you need to get out there and get on the ground and hear how people are scared to death. >> to that point, do you see a reason then, if there's not bipartisan support for the impeachment process, and obviously, mueller has something of a definitive investigation into russian interference and any evidence of obstruction, do you see any reason then for the judiciary committee, the intel committee, other committees to continue looking into the
8:46 am
threads from the russia investigation. >> to make sure we're getting all the facts. i don't hear even republicans denying that russians tried to interfere in our election. i think some tried to use it to the benefit to help republicans, and i hope that we will not do that going into 2020. i hope everybody is going to work together to make sure that the facebook situations, all those situations that enabled russia last time, we're going to try to make sure they can't do the same harm that they did in 2016. >> do you think in the end bob mueller left this to congress to decide? >> i think -- i'm not quite sure why bob mueller didn't come out more definitively. there are things in there to me that he took you to the line but didn't take you over. i do think that the attorney general was far too vague or vague is not the word. >> so there are more people saying what he has done is beneath the office and he should leave. >> i'm deeply disturbed.
8:47 am
he acted more like a defense attorney for the white house than the chief law enforcement officer of this country. he didn't do it. when you read the report, there are clearly things in there that are not reflected in his summary to the congress. so you know, i think that the chair -- we have very good chairs of our committees in the house. they're going to investigate. they're going to ask more questions. the attorney general is going to come to the hill. he's got to be more accountable for things he said. i think they're going to ask tough questions and they should. and i think mueller is coming to the hill and giving us his unvarnished opinion or his unvarnished interpretation of that report is useful to the entire american people. >> the possibility, after you hear from mueller, you would get to a place where you say i'm going to sign on? >> if mueller were to say certain things, if mueller were to say he felt that the white house crossed lines, then i think we would, even though i think it would be very, very difficult to even get it done in 18 months, that we have to send a strong message. we have to protect the fundamental principles, the fundamental pillars of our
8:48 am
constitution. we have to remember this democracy, my husband wrote we're at a precipice, we need to take responsibility for protecting this democracy. that means all kinds of ways. from bringing ourselves back together, remembering united we stand, divided we fall. but we can't let people attack some of the very fundamental pillars, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of press. letting foreign countries come in, our national security. we have to protect those. >> thanks for coming in. great to see you. thank you so much. >> good to see you. >> coming up for us, this just in to cnn. former vice president joe biden is set to make it official and very soon. details on the long awaited announcement of him joining the 2020 presidential race. we have new details coming in. that is next. f bacteria, but life can throw them off balance. re-align yourself, with align probiotic. and try align gummies, with prebiotics and probiotics to help support digestive health
8:49 am
. . . 98% of us don't get enough omega-3s. which is why megared advanced 4in1 packs more omega-3 power into one small softgel. it supports your heart... brain... eyes... and joints. megared. you don't need to go anywhere dad, this is your home. the best home to be in is your own. home instead offers personalized in-home services for your loved ones. home instead senior care. to us, it's personal.
8:50 am
the united explorer card hooks me up. getting more for getting away. traveling lighter. getting settled. rewarded. learn more at
8:51 am
you can shine a light on everyday people doing extraordinary things, changing the world by nominating them as a cnn hero. here's anderson cooper with more. >> since 2007, heroes has been featuring hundred of everyday people whose extraordinary acts are changing lives and making the world a better place. we need you to tell us about that amazing person in your life, and you can do it right now at here's the inside scoop on successfully nominating your hero. think about what makes that
8:52 am
person truly special. then write it down in a paragraph or two. we also want to know the impact that they are having. tell us what sets that person apart. who knows. you might see your everyday hero named the cnn hero of the year. >> absolutely right. nominate someone that you think is a cnn hero. go to ♪ here i go again on my own ♪ goin' down the only road i've ever known ♪ ♪ like a drifter i was-- ♪ born to walk alone! keep goin' man! you got it! if you ride, you get it. ♪ here i go again geico motorcycle. 15 minutes could save you 15% or more.
8:53 am
britbox would like to style, "i'm so sorry" "please allow me to apologize" "sorry dear" "oh, i'm so sorry" for being irresistibly bingeable. "sorry about that darling" "sorry"
8:54 am
and being the biggest streaming collection of british tv ever... now home to the uk's most watched detective. "dci vera stanhope" streaming same day as the uk. "well, well, well" escape to britbox. start your free trial today at so it has been rumored and debated and promised and it's been kwemptd after all the speculation, joe biden is ready to announce that he will run for president in 2020. that announcement could come as early as next week. we have some new details coming in. cnn's jessica schneider -- jessica dean, apologies. >> that's fine. >> what do you know. >> we can confirm that the former vice president is poised to make that announcement next week. that deadline has moved several times but know we're being told by people close to the vice
8:55 am
president that it is coming next week. we're also told that the format and exact date of that announcement is still in flux so they are still continuing to make the decisions about all of that. we know that one of his top advisers, greg schultz, the man that is set to oversee his campaign, was on the hill earlier this week telling democrats there everything is going ahead as scheduled. kate. >> those dates seem to have been -- >> ever floating, yes, but next week looks to be the week. >> coming up. great to see you, jessica. thanks so much, and jessica schneider which i love as well, too. >> right. >> coming for us, a top house democrat subpoenas the full unredacted mueller report. will jerry nadler actually get it the? what will it say? will it change anything? stay with us. this is loma linda, a place with one of the highest life expectancies in the country. you see so many people walking around here in their hundreds. so how do you stay financially well for all those extra years? well, you have to start planning as early as possible. we all need to plan, for 18 years or more,
8:56 am
of retirement. i don't have a whole lot saved up, but i'm working on it now. i will do whatever i need to do. plan your financial life with prudential. bring your challenges.
8:57 am
8:58 am
8:59 am
xfinity watchathon week has sadly come to an end. what, what, what! no! but don't let that stop you from watching the best shows and movies from showtime, hbo, epix... jesus, what happened? ...and more. it's just the tip of the iceberg.
9:00 am
upgrade now to get more into what you're into. thanks! just say "watchathon" into your x1 voice remote to upgrade and keep getting more of what you love. welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. thank you for sharing your day with us. the mueller report kid a twitter nickname. crazy. this as they realize the 400-plus ages are dominated by his own aides of discussing a white house culture of lies, temper and retribution and house democrats demand more. a new subpoena today calls on the justice department to quickly turn over a full unredacted report, plus all the evidence the special counsel collected, and how will the findings go over outside of washington? at


info Stream Only

Uploaded by TV Archive on