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it's just the tip of the iceberg. upgrade now to get more into what you're into. thanks! just say "watchathon" into your x1 voice remote to upgrade and keep getting more of what you love. welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. thank you for sharing your day with us. the mueller report kid a twitter nickname. crazy. this as they realize the 400-plus ages are dominated by his own aides of discussing a white house culture of lies, temper and retribution and house democrats demand more. a new subpoena today calls on the justice department to quickly turn over a full unredacted report, plus all the evidence the special counsel collected, and how will the findings go over outside of washington? democratic candidates, they are
asked much more about healthcare and job. voter reaction so far, tends to track party loyalty. >> we're sick of hearing about it. i think washington, they want to focus on it. those people want to, but for us, my friends, we're sick of hearing about the mueller. >> i think i've been reading about it for a long, long time, and it seems like i'm not sure anything is going to change. >> the full report needs to be fully disclosed to everybody. we have a right to see the full report. >> we'll begin there. the president's tune and his tone on the mueller report is shifting today as he soaks in the details and the media coverage. quote, total exoneration was his immediate take yesterday. even though the often damning report did no so much thing. today the report gets a nickname, and the president calls it total bs, though he used the full word, not the shorthand. he's mad because he's learning the report repeatedly quotes
people who work for the president describing his efforts to thwart the special counsel investigation. quote, statements were made about me by certain people in the craze mueller report in itself written by 18 angry democrats, trump haters. the president tweets which are fabricated and totally untrue. the president goes on to say that some of those statements, are quote, total bs. he uses the full word. you can see it right there and only given to make the other person look good or me look back. this is an illegally started hoax that never should have happened. new reaction on day two from the democrats as well. the house judiciary committee committee chairman jerry nadler serving a subpoena for every last word of the report and the evidence used to write it. >> we need the entire report unredacted and the underlying documents in order to make informed decisions. >> including the grand jury evidence. >> including the grand jury evidence, yes. >> chairman nadler writes this. i cannot accept any proposal which leaves most of congress in the dark as they grapple were their duties of legislation, oversight and constitutional accountability, even the
redacted version of the report, chairman nadler says, outlines serious instances of wrongdoing by president trump and some of his closest associates. it now falls to congress to determine the full scope that have hey alleged misconduct and decides what steps we must take going forward. let's go straight up live to capitol hill and cnn's manu raju joins us there. the democrats didn't wait. just 24 hours. there's the subpoena. what's next? >> reporter: yeah. the subpoena for the full report. they want it. do they have a deadline by may 1st. they are not expecting to get compliance from the justice department and if they don't get compliance expect a court fight for the full report and the grand jury information. at the same time expect hearings first starting with bill barr before the house and senate judiciary committees and also robert mueller who jerry nadler is calling to come before his committee, adam schiff wants him to testify before the house intelligence commit and nadler made clear momentsing into a radio interview he wants to have major hearings with players as part of his investigation into potential obstruction of justice. that's going to be a major focus
of his committee going forward. what exactly happened? he said in the same radio interview that he does not believe the president would have been indicted on obstruction of justice charges had it not been for the justice department's policy saying that a sitting president cannot be indicted, and he also said that he does not want to pursue impeachment or he said that the idea is not to pursue impeachment at this point. the justice department to investigate who did what and then decide what to do about it and then we'll decide what road to go down. john, you're going to see investigations happening on multiple fronts. the obstruction part, part of the house judiciary probably. the house intelligence committee wants to continue to look into the financial aspects of the president's organization, whether he has any ties to foreign interests, russian interests. that's something that's not clear whether or not the mueller investigation fully looked into the redacted report not revealing anything about that, so you're going to see democrats pursue the investigations on multiple fronts, even as folks on the left are demanding
impeachment and leaders are putting -- trying to throw cold water on that, and jerry nadler is in charge of any impeachment proceedings saying that's not the focus right now. the focus is on the investigation and potential obstruction of justice. john? >> manu raju live on capitol hill. appreciate the live reporting. my biggest question from your perspective up there is will mueller say yes, and if so when will he come up? with me to share their reporting cnn's kaitlyn collins, cnn legal analysts and kara dmerjian with "the washington post." >> is manu raju correct, when the guidelines are you don't indict a signature president, you can't make a sitting president. is that the case the president makes? is there a strong enough case in your view to charge the president with obstruction of justice? >> i think it's very clear that mueller was explaining to congress and the public here's the facts and a road map for how he would have been indicted and
unlike what barr wanted us to believe mueller references the office of legal counsel's opinion. he also does a really beautiful job starting about page 159 analyzing the counterarguments that barr will really made in his memo as toss why you cannot indict a sitting president for obstruction and completely destroys those arguments. >> let me ask you another question. put it into a political context. if you're asked by house democrats, not ready to go there, we'll have the political conversation in a minute, but can you prosecute an impeachment case based on that document? >> absolutely, yeah. >> to me if you can prosecute a criminal case, can you prosecute an impeachment case. >> impeachment. so let's get to that conversation. let me read -- let me read because it is interesting watching the reaction, the democrats, most democrats say let's go slow. let's ask for -- barr is already scheduled to come back up. let's get mueller in the chair and demand the full report and see what was redacted and see if we can get our hands on investigative files to see if there's even more in there, and they are guided by this. this is what robert mueller said in his report.
with respect to whether the president can be have found to have obstructed justice but exercising his powers under ardakal ii of the constitution we said the president has the authority to protect the integrity of the administration of justice and that's robert mueller essentially saying i can't be the fire department because i'm not allowed to prosecute but here's my smoke. >> it's going to elevate an already heated debate inside the democratic party about whether to pursue impeachment. there are progressives said the evidence is compelling, it would be hard to let the president skate on this. have the trial and let the chips fall where it may. let voters decide and they don't have the votes to remove him and pursuing impeachment would be an all-consuming affair and would drown out and they feel like running on economics and healthcare and ignoring the president has worked. most of the people have made up their minds and not a lot of votes to be had from an impeachment trial.
>> yesterday a modern day republican party found on standing up to the soviet union, now the russians and on a strong law and order platform says it's total exoneration and time to move on. if you read the report it's not anything close to that, but in the political environment, krens you're a backup option. could the democrats pass a krens your resolution? they have the majority and maybe quiet the pro impeachment forces but still go on the record taking some sanction against the president? >> i'm not sure that you can do that -- you can censure your own. they want things to get as bad in the nixon years and that's the goal and that's what democrats are weighing the option of if that's something can you do. as you already pointed out, republicans expressed any willingness or openness toss that point. part of this may be just because i seriously doubt most rank and
file members of congress have actually read this entire report and are familiar with all the details. they have been thrust into the political interpreting sphere since even before the report came out and haven't let go of that. even the champions of transparency like chuck grassley, you know, are sending out statements within a few hours of it coming out saying oh, congratulations, barr, for upholding that standard. in order to get off that spin they need to find something very specific and this is really interesting to behold if and when mueller gets to the hill. people will continue to spin around barr because that's where we are and that's what we've been doing and mueller is a different store and once they synthesize this report over a weekend we may -- we may hear discussion, but right now there's no cracks in that armor and if there's not nancy pelosi won't go ahead. >> i'll come back in a second and in greater detail to the president in a few minutes in the next segment but i want to get at the top of the program what changed? how did we go from the "game of thrones" image, total
exoneration and going to a nickname, the crazy and the bs, holy week. holy weekend for christians, for jews, i'm not going to start throwing procontinue tis on the air but bs. >>-ins the predicament that the president is the in, that he is counting on the conclusions from this report. no collusion, that he didn't obstruct justice and the white house's view that's what they are banking on and also has a problem with the other aspect of the rart that is embarrassing and in that tweet he didn't name the former white house counsel, he might have tagged him in it because it was a very clear and direct message implying the notes on what the president said was maimed, but the report is so much more than what don mcgahn said. the most damning quote is what the president said after the special counsel was appointed and that's a quote that came from jeff session' chief of staff, not don mcgahn's note and it's really the entire report and the president does not like
negative coverage. often an event can happen. the president won't have opinion on it one way or another and if there's negative coverage that's what gets to the president. that's what you saw play out. yes there was talk about the collusion. of course there was talk about obstruction and there was a lot of talk about the fact that the president's aides are trying to circumvent him and subvert his orders that he gives them because they either want to protect themselves legally or they don't want to make the president to make this destructive political decision, and he doesn't like that. >> he doesn't like that, and more on that as we come back. >> up next, what the president is reading today and why he's so angry, but first one democrat having a little bit of fun here in the wake of the mueller report. >> and i want to say, i want to announce my candidate for president in 2020. >> what does that stay in. >> not trump. ♪ run with us. on a john deere x300 series mower. because seasons may change... ♪ ...but true character doesn't. ♪
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president so animated. quote, watch out for people that take so-called notes, president laments. among those who took notes and shared them as kaitlyn just noted is the former white house is counsel don mcgahn, among at least 221 close trump aides and advisers quoted in the mueller report and its footnotes. that list includes former top strategist steve bannon, white house communications director hope hicks. their account of the president's conduct and character is beyond badmning. the "new york times" captures it perfectly here. the white house that owe mermgs from the 400 pages of mr. mueller's sorority a hotbed of conflict infused by a culture of dishonesty, defined by a president who lies to the public and his own staff and then tries to get his aids to lie for him. he was saved from the accusation of the obstruction of justice, the report made clear, in part because the aides saw danger and followed him from following through on his own instincts.
again, the president is right and all americans should be happy robert mueller says there was no criminal conspiracy with the russians, but if you stop there, then this is a great report for the president of the united states. if you read the report, it's a horrible report for the president of the united states. >> yeah, and i think it's worth reading it if you can get through all 400 pages because you have examples great and small of exactly what the "new york times" described there. >> not from 18 angry democrats. not from anonymous sorsdurces. put some of the footnotes on the screen. i just want to make this print. the president says it's the angry democrat and deep state and on this page alone, don mcgahn, trusted chief strategist steve bannon, reince priebus, hope hicks who came to the white house from the trump organization and was by his side. these are people who were and still are loyal to the president but they understood where they were sitting and they had to tell the truth.
>> that's right, and the -- the combination of all of their testimony i think tells an interesting story. there's one moment in -- one point where the president has a letter, resignation letter from jeff sessions, the attorney general in which he's got it in his pocket. they are on a foreign trip to the middle east, and he shares, according to hope hicks, shares this letter with some people on air force one. on that same trip, according to reince priebus, somebody else interviewed by mueller's investigation, reince priebus asked for this left and the president claimed that it was back at white house. sort of a small but revealing episode. i think the -- the question here is politically is this kind of view of the president that he lies about things big and small, is that baked into the -- into the vote's mind about who he is? anybody who is on the fence about the president anyway and particularly anybody on the fence going have their minds changed by reading this? i think that's a big political question. >> and there's two points.
basically this report is showing all of these things that the staffers said about the president behind his back. very different things than what they have said pubically about the president, things they actually thought about the president which is pretty revealing in and of itself, but it all starts with the top. it was the president pressuring people to lyric telling them to deny stories that were true, to make up timelines that did not occur and it was the president who was encouraging a lot of what happened, a lot of damning events that are in here. two, a lot of people who sat down with the special counsel are questioning the original white house strategy to fully koorp raig rate, to give them every document, to make every person available to sit down with them because, of course, once they go in there they could be subject to lying to federal investigators and the truth is not had a very flattering portrayal of what's going on. >> remember, as they were going, in many of them going in, they knew manafort was charged, gates was charged. flynn was charged. michael cohen later charged. people went to jail for their lies. just want to bring in new reporting from our chief
washington correspondent anchor of "the lead" saying a senior administration officials says it's, quote, nothing surprising that the president makes absurd demands of his staff and administration officials who are alarmed by them and reluctant to follow them. it's only unsurprising because it's become the norm. again, this is -- i -- this reporting is important to sort of understand the mindset there, but this is -- from day one of this administration whether it's law and order issues like this, which is critically important or immigration policy or tax policy or healthcare policy, being told by people pay no attention to what the president says. pay no attention to what the president tweets. he's a temperamental hothead, sometimes a blow hard, people who work for him. just watch what we do, not what he says. >> it's a crucial point because the mueller report indicates half a dozen instance where aides or advisers refused to carry out directives and this may be partly why the president didn't get into deeper water on obstruction of justice because
mueller said the president tried but did not succeed base people refused his orders. i wonder if that's something that's affecting the president and one of the reasons that democratic institutions can survive authoritarian tendencies because they note law is more powerful individual than the >> and they were smart enough to know that they didn't go to jail. >> though you have to wonder what might have happened if he actually talked to trump because a lot of the things that you can't necessarily substantiate intent because they never made him available. and if we with seen this report near the beginning of trump's presidency how shocked. it has become the norm. people have become kind of immune and used to the pattern which is not going to change. >> right. >> the president is going to continue to spin this report and pressurers to do the same going forward as well so we may be inoculated into that today. >> can't get inokay rated and if he continues to do it and it's outside the norms and the law we should be shocked by it and continue to think of it as news even though you do get this
point. i want to show you the limits. again, as the president attacks the report and calls it bs. he doesn't want you to believe it. look at the number of people. these are not trump haters. he says angry democrats. he says trump haters. these are people who worked for this president in the campaign. some of them in the trump organization as well. worked for them in the white house and various agencies of government. these are people loyal to the president. among them, sarah sanders, the current press secretary who when jim comey was fired says that she was just overwhelmed with calls from rank and file fbi people saying thank you, mr. president. the mueller report says that was bs. founded on nothing. this is sarah sanders explaining this, trying to today. >> i said the slip of the song was in using the word countless. i'm sorry that i wasn't a robot like the democratic party that went out for two and a half years and stated time and time again that there was definitely russian collusion between the president and his campaign. i said that it was in the heat of the moment meaning it wasn't a scripted thing.
it was something that i said. the big takeaway here is that the sent cement 100% accurate. >> the sentiment is not 100% accurate. it wasn't then and it isn't now. comey was -- had some issues, but he was actually pretty well-liked when he was running the bureau. number two, i have some empathy because of who she works for. she essentially is told to lie every day, but should we or more importantly you at home -- how do you believe anything they say? >> well, that's the point. it's not -- this is not just pitting the white house against the press corps that covers the white house. that's a taxpayer funded press secretary so when she makes a comment from the podium, she says it's a slip of the tongue. she actually made it multiple times and i was there that day. a reporter gave her the chance to walk it back. they said really, sarah, countless people have called you from the fbi? yes, she had received e-mails and texts from a large number of people at the fbi, even though she gave the caveat she didn't know many people who worked at the fbi. >> mueller, the former fbi
director i think made it a point to put that in the report even though mueller not -- not a giant fan of james comey if you read the entire report. >> the press secretary is sort of unique among people in the white house. the entire credibility of the her job is based on the idea that people who were asking her questions in the press room or these days the press gaggle or -- maybe they are getting spin on it or maybe certain information left out but they are at least getting some kind of truth. her entire credibility, such as it was, real, really damaged by this. >> i lived through this in the clinton/lewinsky days covering the white house and it's hard, a hard job, but you're right. can you understand your loyalty to the boss and can try to spin things as favorably as you can, but on basic truths, what day of the week, did you get a phone call, did you get an email, you can't make that stuff up? the big divide between what the attorney general says and what robert mueller said and what the russia special counsel actually wrote.
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explore barr versus mueller which has been a dynamic as you read through the roar. let's start about the degree of cooperation from the trump campaign and white house. >> nonetheless, the white house fully cooperated with the special counsel's investigation, providing unfettered access to campaign and white house documents, directed senior aides to testify freely and asserting no privilege claims. and at the same time the president took no act that in fact deprived the special counsel of the documents and witnesses necessary to complete his investigation. >> sounds like carte blanche, right? well, look at what the special counsel actually wrote. this is just some of it. the office learned that some of the individuals we interviewed or whose conduct we investigated, including some associated with the trump campaign, deleted relevant communications. the special counsel also made reference to his request denied for an interview with the president and said of the president's interviews of answers we viewed the president's written answers to be inadequate so in substance
and tone a disagreement between these two men. another interesting piece as the attorney general spoke yesterday trying to make clear i'm the attorney general, he works for me. >> was he invited to join you up on the podium? why is he not here? this is not your report that you're talking about it. >> he did the report for me as the attorney general. he's required under the regulation to provide me with a confidential report. i'm here to discuss my response to that report and my decision, entirely discretionary to make it public, since these reports are not supposed to be made public. >> cnn's evan perez and kara skannell joint conversations. we'll go through more conversations in a minute. >> two years. >> that's a lot of months. >> some it substance and we'll go through more and some tone or omission on the part of the toenchlgt i would call it political spin on the part of
the attorney general. does he or his people explaining this at all while if you read the report and match it up with the attorney general's words it's a parallel universe in some cases? >> they seemed really struck and surprised by the coverage by the reaction to what bill barr said yesterday. they really didn't see this coming, and i think -- >> a team of incredibly talented lawyers at the justice department didn't understand that we would actually read the report and compare it to the attorney general's words? >> look. i'm mystified. you know, just in the last one that you were just citing there. i think, you know, we come away from reading this report is that the president got all of the benefit of being a cooperating witness, but did just minimal of it, right? he allowed white house people and people to go testify, to go provide evidence, information to robert mueller's investigators. in that way he actually helped protect himself so that he didn't have to go sit down with mueller. but, you know, he didn't
actually -- as you saw, i mean, the mueller investigator said that his written answers were inadequate, so he gets all of the benefits of being cooperative without cooperating and he gets protected because he's president and cannot be indicted so he's essentially above the law and that's exactly what the attorney general is trying to portray that the president is not, and i think that if you read that report, again, read it a couple of times, that's a distinct impression that you come away with it. >> let's look at another one on the question of columpingts again, the special counsel said there was no conspiracy, but let's look at the words. i just want to highlight something here as we do it. this is the attorney general speaking yesterday. after nearly two years of investigation, right, did not find the trump campaign or other americans colluded in those efforts, right? in the efforts to illegally interfere with the election and here's what the special counsel said. the investigation established multiple links between trump campaign individuals and individuals tied to the russian government. ultimately the investigation did not establish that the campaign
coordinated or conspired in the election interference activities, but the attorney general didn't say, you know what, don jr. and others were playing footsie with the russians but there wasn't a criminal conspiracy. he left that part out. hoe tried to say he leaves that out. why? >> people in the trump campaign, the president's family members, essentially were encouraging the russians. they saw the benefits of what the russians were doing. all the while they were telling us that it's complete bs and that the russians were not actually involved, and they knew it, and -- and i think, again, you come away from reading this report and you see that, look, it may not have been a formal agreement. there was nobody sitting down and the president didn't sign a letter of intent with the russians for them to help his campaign or help him get elected and it was everything short of that, and it certainly looks like columpingts i mean, i know, he likes to say no collusion and
by the way the attorney general yesterday, using those two words, no collusion multiple times, did not do himself or the justice department any favors. didn't do the white house any favors either frankly, because this is a moment where the attorney general should have stood independently away from the white house. >> he's smart enough and experienced enough to have processed that. he made a choice yesterday with what he did. >> he did. >> let's look at the question of obstruction, and this one here is more of a difference of opinion on the judgment i think more than the words itself. but if you look through here using the highlighter, the deputy attorney general and i concluded the evidence developed by the special counsel is not sufficient to establish that the president committed an obstruction of justice offense. that's the attorney general's reading and what the special counsel says he kind of flips it. if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the president clearly did not commit obstruction of justice we would so state. >> i know. i mean, i think the key thing there is barr is saying there wasn't sufficient evidence. the report goes into extremely
specific detail about, you know, actions and activities, about a dozen instances that they put under -- they put under the umbrella of obstruction. >> mueller, he actually makes clear, applicable legal standards meaning justice department guidelines say he can't indict a signature president. mueller decided he's not going to make the judgment. >> the guidelines that say you don't indict a sitting president and mueller saying we had to follow that and because of that we couldn't really make that determination. that is saying, you know, it's not right to say that someone has committed a crime when you can't charge them and they can't defend themselves at trial and it would really tarnish the administration, but they stopped well short of saying that the president, you know, did not commit obstruction. they are saying there's a lot of evidence here and we're got -- >> here's ten examples. >> which gets to the next part. it was striking watching bill barr yesterday, had the job in
the h.w. bush administration. i'm the boss. the attitude now that he has the job again saying that this report comes to me. i make the decisions. it's clear that's his attitude and he said this is the attorney general of the united states saying special counsel mueller did not indicate that his purpose was to least decision to congress. that's what the attorney general said yesterday, standing at the justice department. here's what bob mueller says in the report. with respect to whether the president can be found to have obstructed justice by exercising his powers under article ii of the constitution we concluded that congress has the authority to prohibit a president's corrupt use of his authority in order to protect the integrity of the administration of justice. bill barr says a and bob mueller's report says z. bob mueller's report specifically says justice department guidelines say i can't indict a sitting president. congress has the right, the responsibility and the constitutional authority to do this. how can the attorney general say he didn't say leave this to congress? >> right. i think they was free hangs, frankly, and there were a lot of things he said that were just
not based on what the report said and we saw that. he talked about the president's feelings. again, there's a lot of criticism what have jim comb dein july of 2016 castigating hillary clinton while saying that she was not going to be charged. this is the opposite. this is where essentially the attorney general is endorsing what the behavior -- the behavior by the president and people in his campaign in 2016 while saying they are completely cleared. they are exonerated while the report does not say that. >> putting his number on it by saying, you know, that the president was frustrated and anger and it was sincere which is not at all reflected. >> that's not his point. that's not what his job as attorney general. >> he was saying the president is a victim. again, if the president is the a victim, it's because the fbi picked up his people talking to russians during a campaign and that alarmed them and then they lied about it. >> they did that to themselves. >> maybe there there was no conspiracy but there was every reason to investigate because they were doing things way outside the norms, way, way outside norms. >> john, it also raise questions as to why the attorney general
is claiming essentially that he's going to launch a review of how this investigation began. essentially investigating the investigators. if you look at that report, you can see why this investigation happened and why -- you know, why essentially the president and his people brought this upon themselves with their behavior. >> spygate as devin nunes says. you know what. let's let the inspector general and see his report soon. let's attorney general do it as long as he's transparent about it. if there's offenses they should be held accountable. and if he should say this was all by the books, not a witch hunt. up next, more clues on joe biden's political future as in announcement day is coming. if you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis, every day can begin with flakes. it's a reminder of your struggles with psoriasis. but what if your psoriasis symptoms didn't follow you around? that's why there's ilumya. with just 2 doses, a majority of people were clear or almost clear. and over time, even more people were clear or almost clear.
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topping our political radar today, joe biden inching closer to that long-awaited official campaign announcement. sources close to the vice president, former vice president, says he's poised to make it official next week. that, of course works make him into the crowded field of democrats. getting close 20 now, for the 2020 nomination. wednesday is the target date, although other officials in the campaign say be careful. they haven't locked that quite in yet. more, the location for the big reveal. colorado senator michael bennett recovering after surgery for prostate cancer. the spokesman for the democratic senator says he underwent a complete and successful surgery over the weekend adding that bennett requires no further treatment. his spokesperson says he'll return to work in the senate after the recess. this nugget from the 400-plus pages. mueller report. the republican chairman of the senate intelligence committee apparently alerted white house lawyers about the targets of the fbi's russia vision, way back in march of 2017, before then fbi director james comey revealed
the investigation's existence at a house hearing. comey brestd intel committee and congressional leaders ahead of time. and a footnote says senator richard burr in turn briefed the white house counsel's office on the existence of four to five will targets, including the president's national security adviser michael flynn and his former campaign chairman paul manafort. wow and moscow weighing in on the mueller report. in a conference call the spokesman claims, emphasis on claims, the redacted report contained no new information or as peskov put it the any quote, reasoned evidence supporting the allegations of russia interference into the u.s. elections and peskov claims it confirms what he and putin has said all along. the u.s. secretary of state has a different idea. >> when i engage with the russiansly rates issues of the mueller report? we will talk about the steadfast
requirement that russia not engage in activity that impacts the capacity of our democracy to be successful and their interference in an election creates risk there and we will make very clear to them that this is unacceptable behavior and as you see from this administration we will take tough actions which raise the cost for russian activity and we'll continue to do that. >> a lot interesting in that segment there, but to me chairman burr gave white house lawyers a heads up after being given a classified briefing on an fbi counterintelligence investigation. >> this is a really fascinating and complex little footnote to the report. burr for his part saying he does not recall this conversation specifically taking place. >> a lot of i don't recall. >> the question is though -- this is around the same time that nunez at the time was going back and forth to the white house and raising all sorts of concerns about whether he was disclosing classified information and the questions is was burr doing a similar thick in a way or speaking very
loosely and making mistakes and divulging things that he shouldn't in the gang of eight top intel members and the top congressional leaders of both parties had this briefing on march 9th. comey didn't announce pubically until there was a counterintelligence investigation on march 20th. don mcgahn, the white house lawyer wants information. he's nervous and looking for anything white house related. they think they are talking about the senate investigation but basically tells them the road map for what the fbi is doing. loose talk because he hadn't set up his own investigation yet or planning on following that lead or was he actually telling them what the fbi is doing? it's strange because the -- the white house counsel's office says they couldn't rule it out. >> chairman of the intelligence committee. with that title comes a pretty high bar of responsibility. mm-hmm. up next, when it comes to the mueller report, the 2020 campaign trail sounds a lot different than the conversation here in washington. i've always been excited for what's next.
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>> watching the mueller report, so as the democrats, where do we go? >> and -- and a lot of reporters are asking me outside, and i want to just -- we should say as americans -- i'm going to be one of the folks on the judiciary committee wanting to make sure we bring mueller to talk about his report in more detail. >> senator cory booker echoing a cole from the special counsel robert mueller to come to capitol hill and testify in public, but while that and all things mueller are a hot topic here in washington and across capitol hill, much less an issue, at least up until now out on the campaign trail and that part is interesting. the candidates will tell you,
and let's listen to them right off the top. this is former congressman beto o'rouke, senator kirsten gillibrand saying it comes up but not much. >> 550 questions over the last four and a half weeks. the bob mueller investigation has come up two or three times. folks are focused on the fact that they can't afford prescription medications and talking about working two or three jobs just to make ends meet. >> certainly not on top of mind of voters around the country, concerned about their families, job, healthcare, and making sure people are working and working to their fullest potential. those are issues the american people want to talk about. >> will that change now, or do the candidates when they are out there need to stay on drugs, the economy, healthcare and leave the other stuff here, or will this change the dynamic, especially among activist democrats, some will want impeachment and others will make sure they want to testify and
some are mad at bill barr. >> keep in mind these candidates are talking to democratic voters and interested in the democratic candidates and it's interesting that they are saying they are not hearing much about it. maybe it does change a little bit. i was up earlier this week in they will high valley of pennsylvania which is a swing area, a place where republicans have to win if they can win pennsylvania again in 2020 and i talked to people on the republican side, democratic side, mixed in between. they all say we can't understand what's going on with the mueller report. it's too dense. it's too much. they are not interested in it. they mentioned the same issues that those candidates mentioned. i think that's where -- the voters in many ways are leading the candidates on this. >> with 19 or 20 candidates in the race, my question does somebody break? eric swalwell yesterday said the attorney general should resign. he thought the attorney general's press conference was beyond the pale. one way as a long shot candidate to raise your hand and say we should move to impeachment and something to keep an eye on. the candidates follow what's
happening. look at this from google search trends, the warriors, sixers, good friday, "jeopardy," the mueller report was number 19. the mueller report was number 19. >> i don't expect it to change on the campaign trail for this reason. democratic voters are much more motivated by issues. want to talk about healthcare and climate change and immigration and the major candidates, mr. there may be minor candidates to use this attention to gain some attention and oxygen but first let the mueller report come out and let barr and mueller testify and then let the house committees do their job and pursuit investigation. they don't want to give president trump any ammunition to say these people don't want to take me how the so they are looking for a back door to oust me. >> check your digital records to see if you were reading the mueller report or talking about jason mamma shaving his beard. >> guilty. >> 8:00 a.m. eastern. get up early with us. brianna keilar starts after a quick break. have a great afternoon.
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and unrivaled network to work. the united states postal service makes more e-commerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country. i'm brianna keilar live from cnn's washington headquarters. under way right now, we start with the fallout from the mueller report. the culmination of a nearly two-year investigation, and as we've waded through it, it's become apparent it's not what the attorney general made it out to be. it's now clear a.g. bill barr white washed it first with his four-page summary of it four weeks ago and then again yesterday morning with his