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moscow's assault on american democracy as nothing more than a couple of facebook ads. democratic division. top 2020 presidential candidates drive home their differences over impeaching president trump during a cnn town hall event. tonight house speaker nancy pelosi is jumping back into the impeachment debate. and staring down moscow. the u.s. navy puts on a show of force sending a message to russia about the military expansion and aggression. cnn is on board getting an exclusive look at warning signals from vladimir putin. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer and you're in "the situation room". >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. >> we're following breaking news on the trump administration open defiance of democratic investigators in congress. the irs refusing to meet a
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deadline in the last hour to turn over the president's tax returns. the treasury secretary telling the house ways and means committee he needs to consult with the justice department on whether the demand is legal. also breaking, house speaker nancy pelosi is calling the trump administration's fight with house democrats over the release of the mueller report a threat to u.s. democracy. but on the question of whether democrats should launch impeachment proceedings pelosi said she's not there yet. i'll get reaction from jackie speier, a democrat on the oversight and intelligence committee and our correspondents and analysts are standing by. but first to our congressional correspondent phil mattingly on capitol hill. the treasury department just responded to demands to turn over president trump's tax returns after missing the deadline. so what is the treasury secretary steve mnuchin saying? >> reporter: two deadlines set and now two deadlines missed.
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treasury secretary steve mnuchin giving the stiff arm to rich neal saying in part in this letter, although the committee has asserted any response from the department other than production of the requested materials, the tax returns, will be interpresented as a denial that would be a misinterpretation, the committee request has not been denied or granted. the department expects to take action by may 6th after receiving the justice department legal conclusion. so according to the letter, they are not complying or denying compliance, but if you take the time to read the letter, five-page letter and appendix it is made clear that treasury department and lawyers are laying the groundwork for a potential legal battle ahead and it is very unlikely they are going to comply. they lay out several issues with the request from the house ways and means committee for six years of president trump's tax returns. as well as eight of his business entity returns. going from legislative intent past comments from members of congress saying they might release the tax returns, overall what it is is an initial document that will likely leed
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to a court fight in the future. that is the expectation of all parties involved. but for now, asking for an extension or more time to work with the justice department. now house ways and means committee richard neal, chairman, who has been very methodical about this entire process, giving them one deadline and a second said in a brief statement he will consult with counsel before next steps but when you talk to democratic aides, the steps are clear and just when they will come. the committee could subpoena the tax returns and also file a lawsuit for the tax returns. the end game seems clear at this point. the treasury department and the irs and the trump administration generally, wolf, does not plan, at least at this point it does appear to plan, that they will comply with the house democratic request and that means a pro longed and protracted court fight is certainly in the offing over this issue that has become central to democratic efforts to investigate and underscore or overlook the president now they are a majority in the house. >> that is a signal of the ten-page single spaced letter. house speaker nancy pelosi was
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just asked about the possibility of impeachment. listen to what she just said at the time 100 event in new york. >> i do believe that impeachment is one of the most divisive forces path that we could go down to in our country. but if the facts, the path of fact-findi fact-finding takes us there, we have no choice. but we're not there yet. >> this is notable, phil, after seeing how the split emerged among the democratic presidential candidates when it came to impeachment questions at last night's cnn town hall. >> no question about it. the politics of this are complex. the reality of what democrats are facing, both on capitol hill and on the campaign trail is a little bit complex. but i think what this underscores more than anything else is first and foremost, speaker pelosi hasn't changed her position and she's been saying this for a couple of months. before the release of the mueller report and after the release of the redacted mueller report. there is a couple of things to consider when you listen to what the speaker is saying.
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one, in the phone call, private phone call with the house democratic caucus, she made clear repeatedly that investigations on all fronts and you see some of it with the tax returns and the house oversight and the house judiciary and financial services commit will continue and those type of investigations will be similar to what an impeachment inquiry would be about in the initial stages. but consider speaker pelosi is speaking for her entire democratic caucus but not a candidate on the campaign trail looking to curry favor or raise money or looking to reach out to where the democratic base may be. she is also very, very carefully considering her frontline mens. member from trump districts that flipped and became the majority-makers in 2018. it is all of those calculations that have been weighed up to this point. make no mistake, house democrats have been proven -- proving over the course of the last couple of weeks plan to investigate fully and full somely but impeachment according to the speaker and top democrats will have to wait. >> phil mattingly on capitol
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hill. thank you. more on the breaking news. the stonewalling by the white house, our correspondent jim acosta is joining us. the treasury department just refused to give the president's tax returns at least for now. >> reporter: that is right. the administration is pushing back against a range of demand from house democrats from the standing q to see the president's tax returns to the subpoena for don mcgahn to testify. i could tell you in the last several minutes i spoke with a senior white house official who said the white house is likely to fight the subpoena for don mcgahn to testify up in front of the house. that coming in just a few moments ago. so it does sound as though the white house is going to fight this request. the subpoena from the house democrats to have don mcgahn testify would be explosive testimony, obviously, based on what is laid out in the mueller report and the showdown comes as the president's son-in-law, another key senior white house official, jared kushner, is downplaying russian interference
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in the 2016 election. president trump is digging in his heels as the white house is stonewalling a slew of demands from house democrats. the president is not complying with the 5:00 p.m. deadline to turn over tax returns to congress. it is a battle that peers to be headed for courts. >> if the white house continues to stonewall this, we'll have to turn to the courts in order to get to a final resolution and to force the white house to comply with the law. >> reporter: it is also unclear whether the administration will allow don mcgahn to tell the house judiciary committee what he knows about the russia investigation and the president's demand for him to fire special counsel robert mueller. >> i understand why they are doing it. because to drop the collusion narrative or the impeachment narrative or going after the administration, they would be admitting to the fact the last two years of they're live have been a complete and total waste. >> reporter: the white house is insisting that a normer official carl kline will not explain the granting of security clearances to top aides including jared
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kushner who told "time" magazine he thinks he's been vetted enough. >> i have been fully vetted now after two years of 19 hours of testimony different places. >> reporter: and he raised eyebrows when he appears to grossly downplay russia interference in the 2016 election. >> you look at what russia did, buying some facebook ads and it is a terrible thing but i think the investigations and all of the speculation that happened for last two year had a much harsher impact on our democracy than a couple of facebook ads. >> but that is not true. the mueller report fount they interfered in the election in sweeping and systematic fashion. mr. trump's former opponent hillary clinton believes the report also revealed potential obstruction of justice. >> the mueller report is part of the beginning. it's not the end. as i read it, basically what i thought it was saying, look, we think he obstructed justice, and here are 11 examples of why we think he obstructed justice.
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>> reporter: some of the president's possible opponents of 2020 are taking that one step further. >> if there is going to be any accountability, that accountability has to come from the congress and the tools that we are given for that accountability is the impeachment process. >> reporter: the churning of investigations may explain the president's recent twitter tirade of 50 tweets in the last 24 hours. as the president complained in the old days if you were president and had you a good economy, you were basically immune from criticism. mr. trump is portraying himself as the victim of what he called the radical left democrats and the fake news media. a former french ambassador to the u.s. said the picture inside of the administration is less pretty. >> a lot of officers are still empty two years after the inauguration of president trump. in a sense he's -- >> reporter: as for the president's tweeting he's complaining that twitter is
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discriminating and today he met with twitter ceo about that very issue. the white house also announced the president will be visiting britain and france in june where mr. trump hopes to be out from the clouds of controversy swirling around but, wolf, if it pans out what the senior white house official just told me several minutes ago, that the white house is likely to fight the subpoena of don mcgahn, that promise is to stretch that controversy well into the summer and could very well get tied up in court that may be needed to sort out that controversy. >> the former white house counsel spend 30 hours answering questions during the mueller investigation. thank you for that jim acosta with breaking news. joining us now, congresswoman jackie speier serving on the intelligence and the oversight committee. congress woman, thank you for joining us. as you just heard, the treasury secretary they need until may 6th to weigh the law, the request for the president's tax returns. do you believe this is simply a delay tactic? >> without a doubt.
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this is very consistent with what the president has done over and over again in his administration. i want to be interviewed by mr. mueller, i want to be interviewed and then of course he never is interviewed. i'm going to release my tax returns, i'm going to release once the audit is over. he has never released his tax return. it is time for us to go to the courts. this is a fundamental abuse of power by one branch of the government, the language is very clear, it says you shall release the tax returns. so there is no question here. it is released to the committee, the ways and means committee, not to the general public. but that is clearly the law. and it is intended to be used by congress to determine whether or not there has been any misdoings relative to one individual in the government or another. >> you heard jim acosta at the white house just report that the white house is also going to try to block the former white house counsel don mcgahn from
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testifying before congress. he's being subpoenaed as you know. what can you do about that, if anything? >> so first of all, i think the president has waved executive privilege through the mueller report. don mcgahn has already spoken to the special counsel. furthermore, you cannot use executive privilege effectively if, in fact, what is being investigated is whether or not there is criminal conduct engaged in in, in this case it is obstruction of justice and i think there is going to be a court battle on that as well and that's precisely what the president wants. to extend this as long as possible and never release information that will give us the truth as to whether or not he has evaded taxes, whether or not he has favored certain countries because he has loans through them and whether or not he's obstructed justice by having the former special counsel -- the former white house counsel testify before the
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committee. >> i suspect the legal battles are only just beginning. congresswoman, on the question of impeachment, you heard the speaker nancy pelosi urge caution at least for now. this is coming after senator elizabeth warren, a democrat presidential candidate told our cnn town hall last night and i'm quoting here, there is no political convenience exception to the united states constitution. what do you think? where do you stand? >> so i actually stand with both of them. because i think what they're saying is the same. basically we're saying, we are in the discovery process. before you can move articles of impeachment, you have to lay the foundation. and do the discovery and that is the process that is underway. there is no question that special counsel mueller was putting up a neon sign to congress saying, i can't file criminal charges because of the department of justice policy of not indicting a sitting president, but there is clearly
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evidence of obstruction of justice. he made it very clear he could not exonerate the president from the obstruction of justice issues. and i think that it is incumbent on us to move forward. very deliberatively and not politically because it is about interpreting the constitution at this point in time. >> the house oversight committee chairman elijah cummings and you're on that committee said he'll schedule a vote to hold carl kline, the former white house official who oversaw security clearances in contempt. this comes after the white house ordered kline not to appear before your committee today. but you apparently have no enforcement power right now. so as all of this is essentially simply a symbolic move? >> i'm afraid so, wolf. because the only way we're going to get mr. kline to testify is by going to court and subpoenaing him. i mean, this is come to our attention because of a
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whistleblower who said in 25 cases she believes they have ignored the intelligence community's recommendations, not to provide security clearances, she's worked within the white house in this role in both republican and democratic administrations, and in 17 years she's never seen anything like that. so that's the kind of oversight we have to do. we are three equal branches of government. and the president still hasn't read civics 101. >> so the subpoena power of the house oversight committee doesn't have any teeth? is that what you are suggesting? >> i think the only subpoena to carry the clout necessary is through the courts. >> congresswoman jackie speier, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. just ahead, we'll talk about the democrats internal struggle over impeachment and why house speaker nancy pelosi apparently wasn't moved by the impassioned appeals at the cnn town hall that they begin immediately. br, you don't have to choose
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said they need more time to -- may 6th to consult with the justice department to see whether the request from the house democrats is legal. >> wow, i bet the tension is building about whether they're going to turn over those tax returns. especially since the white house chief of staff already said they are never turning them over. this is just part of how the -- the justice department, the whole trump administration is dealing with the house of representatives which is we're not turning over anything until the courts tell us to. this one is particularly egregious in the tax return department because the law is so clear that the internal revenue service shall turn over, that is what the law says "shall" turn over a tax return but they'll string this out as long as possible and given the way the courts go it is likely to be months before this issue is resolved, if it is resolved at all before donald trump's term is over. >> and it comes when the white house is fighting all sorts of -- >> everything.
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>> including don mcgahn, the former white house counsel who spent a lot of time testifying during the mueller investigation, now they want to investigate -- they want him to come before congress and the white house said even though he's a private citizen now, he can't do it. >> well have you ever heard of the wort stonewall. i think that would be appropriate for everything happening here. the interesting thing about don mcgahn is that he testified before the special counsel for 30 hours,nobody in the white house invoked privilege. and i think at the time don mcgahn may have thought that they should have invoked privilege. but the white house said, no, no go testify. even though you as white house counsel had conversations with the president, so he testified. it is in great detail in the mueller report. now they're safing, wait a minute, we don't want him to testify. the question is, and maybe jeffrey could answer this, can they invoke privilege now that he's already kind of spilled the beans? >> oh, pick me.
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>> what is the answer? >> no. it is waived. it is waived. >> right. >> you can't say well i told everything to one part of the government but i can't -- but now i'm going to invoke privilege on the other side. that is just -- >> it is ridiculous. it is. it is ridiculous. so i don't know what they're grounds are on this. other than the fact that the president doesn't want him in front of the television cameras and also have the head of security there at the white house and democrats want to ask him about the vetting process. and why people didn't get clearances. and he's saying i'm not going to testify because they're all hoping they could drag this out potentially through the election. >> amidst of this the president's son-in-law and senior adviser jared kushner, he was basically dismissing the russian interference in the u.s. presidential election saying what the mueller team did was a lot worse. listen to this. >> i think the investigations and all of the speculation that happened for the last two years has had a much harsher impact on our democracy than a couple of
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facebook ads. >> that is a brazen simplification completely wrong. >> it is completely rewriting history. this was a lot more than a couple of facebook ads. there was a very sophisticated operation waged on the part of the russians to attack the u.s. democratic process and sow discord in this country. the house intelligence committee put out data last year showing that the russians were able to purchase 3500 ads on facebook alone. they spent $1 million a month and were able to ultimately target roughly 10 million people. and that doesn't even take into account the other social media platforms they used such as twitter and other means to disseminate propaganda against hillary clinton. but jared kushner is not exactly a neutral observer here. he is someone who is not just a senior member of the campaign, but is mentioned in great number of times in the mueller report in part of course for
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participating in the infamous trump tower meept meeting where he at a minimum went into receptive to the house with russians and they didn't act on it because the russians didn't come forward with the damaging information about hillary clinton they promised. >> david, what do you think? >> there was no finding in the report of a conspiracy to defraud the united states. you would expect jared kushner and others until the administration to tout that, to say, look there was no crime committed or as the president said, no collusion. but to spin these facts their own way, that -- the face -- of what was going on on facebook was fine and that the mueller report or the mueller investigation itself was more damaging to the country is just completely mischaracterizing what was an orderly process of justice in their own justice department by their own appointed special counsel who was reporting to their own attorney general. >> i think he's mimicking the president. it is absurd and ridiculous. first of all, members of the trump campaign openly welcomed -- welcomed with open
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arms the russians into their midst to help either find dirt on hillary clinton or help them with the campaign. and by the way, jared kushner is not talking about volume 2 of the mueller report which talks about how the president was telling people to lie, trying to remove bob mueller, special counsel from his job. well what was that? is that bad for the american people to know? no. i don't think it is. i think the american people need to know this about their president and i think jared kushner sort of didn't even get there. he was being so dismissive about this little thing called the mueller report. >> and he also didn't mention the hacking part of the investigation. >> of course. >> but when you're the president's son-in-law, part of the nepotism deal is you do what he wants and he's doing what his father in law wants. >> the mueller report concluding that the russians interfered in sweeping and systematic fashion. much more on the breaking news right after this. who's idea was this?
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back with our analysts and the comments by the house speaker nancy pelosi on the impeachment debate dividing her party and the democratic presidential field. glooria, listen to nancy pelosi putting the brake on the start of an impeachment proceeding in the house of representatives. listen to elizabeth warren in contrast at the cnn town hall.
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>> i do believe that impeachment is one of the most divisive forces paths that we could go down to into our country but if the facts -- the path of fact-finding takes us there, we have no choice. but we're not there yet. >> mueller believed because of the directions from donald trump's justice department that he could not bring a criminal indictment against a sitting president. so i think he's wrong on that but that is what he believed. so he serves the whole thing up to the united states congress. and said in effect if there is going to be any accountability, that accountability has to come from the congress. and the tools that we are given for that accountability is the impeachment process. >> are democrats going to remain divided on this. >> for a while. look, nancy pelosi and elizabeth warren are appealing to two
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different groups. elizabeth warren is trying to win the democratic nomination and the liberal base of the party trying to appeal to younger voters and whom she was speaking in front of last night. and nancy pelosi, on the other hand, is trying to keep the party together and she's got a large group of democrats who won in districts that were republican or that -- that donald trump carried and these are people who were saying to her, look, we don't want to occupy all of the time and space of what we've got to do in congress talking about impeachment, our constituents want to talk about health care, and they want to talk about the issues, the pocketbook issues that matter to them. so she's trying to put the breaks on it and elizabeth warren is trying to win a candidacy. >> how about the trump campaign use this to their advantage. >> we've seen a preview of what that message will look like. the president dismissed the investigations that democrats in the house are trying to pursue
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as presidential harassment and that is how he's going to try to frame any conversations they may have about impeachment. now it is important to note that there is a distinction between what democrats in the house and those on the campaign trail will do. and i think that when you look at candidates in the 2020 democratic field, they're not talking a great deal about impeachment when their asked about it, they say that that is the appropriate role for congress to play. and they recognize, i think, they need to make more than just an anti-trump case to the american people and that is why you hear them focusing more on policy issues and leaving matters of impeachment to democrats in the house. >> jeffrey, on another sensitive issue, bernie sanders and kamala harris are facing some criticism for what they said last night when asked whether convicted felons, including killers serving life sentences like the boston marathon bomber for example should be allowed to vote even while incarcerated. listen to the two of them. >> if somebody commits a serious
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crime, sexual assault, murder, they're going to be punished. they may be in jail for 10 years, 20 years, 50 years they're whole lives. that is what happens when you commit a serious crime. but i think the right to vote is inherit to our democracy. yes, even for terrible people. but i do believe that even if they are in jail they're paying their price to society and that should not take away their inherit american right to participate in our democracy. >> people who are convicted in prison like the boston marathon bomber on death row, people who are convicted of sexual assault, they should be able to vote. >> i think we should have that conversation. >> what is your reaction, jeffrey? >> reporter: well it is peculiar because there is a big movement in the democratic party for enfranchisement of former felons. people who are out of prison. there was initiative in florida that passed with republican
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support. and that is a sort of core democratic capital "d" principle at this point. the notion of people in prison voting is something that was news to me. i had never heard that as a -- as a political issue and i think it is going to be actually pretty hard to defend. kamala harris looked sort of stunned by the issue. i don't know if she thought about it before. bernie sanders decided to embrace it. but i doubt -- and pete buttigieg later said he didn't want any part of it. he thought that people in prison should not vote. but i doubt that's an idea that will take the democratic party much less the country by storm. >> what do you think, david? >> so at the philosophical root of this, rolwolf, is that the i when you are incarcerated you give up. you are locked in. you can't move around. you also can't have other certain basic rights and so people think of voting as something that is on hold as jeffrey said until you're at least released from prison.
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it is one thing for democrats to entertain this discussion but i think part of their problem here and you saw it in both of the answers from senator sanders and from senator harris is that if you have a big umbrella idea of what your campaign is about, then drill down into the other issues but when your whole campaign is these little individual policy positions, that is what you're going to be judged on and it is not clear to me the american people are quite as far as those answers were that they gave. >> everybody stick around. there is more breaking news. we're following some exclusive reporting, cnn is now on board as u.s. navy warships deploy to a region where the russian military is frying -- is trying expand influence. is vladimir putin getting the message? but since he bought his house... are you going 45? -uh, yes. 55 is a suggestion. -...it's kind of like driving with his dad. -what a sign, huh? terry, can you take a selfie of me? -take a selfie of you? -yeah. can you make it look like i'm holding it? -he did show us how to bundle home and auto at progressive.com and save a bunch of money.
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tonight the united states is flexing its military muscles as a powerful and urgent warning to russia. our senior international correspondent fred pleitgen is in italy after getting access to the mission. you were on board as u.s. warships deployed to the mediterranean? >> reporter: you're absolutely right and this is after the russians are beefing up their presence in the arctic and the black sea and in the mediterranean sea as well and the u.s. with its own show of force deploying two nem its aircraft carriers. tonight an exclusive look as the u.s. military sends a message of
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deterrence to russia and bringing america's ambassador to moscow jon huntsman on board. a clear signal to russia. >> when you have 200,000 tons of diplomacy cruising in the mediterranean, that is what i call diplomacy, this is forward-deployed diplomacy. nothing else needs to be said. you have all of the confidence you need when you sit down and find solutions to the problems that have divided us for many, many years. >> reporter: cnn was on board as the uss abraham lincoln and the john c. stenis will conduct operations on a scale unseen since 2016. >> our senior leadership has n man -- mandated that our navy become more lethal and tactically profishence in the air of competition we're in. >> reporter: in an area where russia is trying to expand influence, deploying more warships and submarines with
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cruise missiles. they are concern about the russia strong posture in this region and with this douor doug employment -- even as associates claim there was nothing wrong with his campaign seeking information stolen by russian military intelligence in the run up to the 2016 election, the u.s. navy is assuring america's allies it won't waiver on commitments to protect against russian aggression. a spanish ship even sailing as part of the carrier strike group. >> we're not going to be deterred by any potential adversary and we're going to support our interest as americans and also those of our allies as we stand throughout the world. >> reporter: with russia increasingly assertive in the arctic and atlantic region, the u.s. navy is putting on its own show of force for the kremlin to clearly see. and the russians themselves trying to, wolf, cement their
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tonight as mayor pete buttigieg is rising in early presidential polls he's been pressed about why he forced his city's first black police chief to resign. the episode in south bend, indiana, involved secretly recorded tapes and raised questions about racism. he address the the controversy during the town hall event overnight. our correspondent drew griffin is with us. we heard from the mayor and you've been looking into this incident as well. >> yeah, it is tough for the mayor to talk about this issue because back home in south bend, indiana as we found in the black community, there is always been this perception or question as to why this mayor appears to be protecting the privacy rights of white allegedly racist cops. >> shortly after pete buttigieg became mayor of south bend, indiana, he became embroiled in a controversy he's still trying to explain seven years later. >> what are on the secret tapes regarding the demotion of the
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south bend black police chief. >> the answer is i don't know. >> reporter: the secret tapes are phone conversations between four white officers including a top detective recorded by an internal police department system. the officers made derogatory racial slurs including comments about the by one of the only people who heard the recording .once chief darryl bicycleens heard about the conversation in 2011 he asked the recordings continue buttigieg forced him to resign because of the way the chief handled the situation, causing an uproar in a time of racial tension across the country. >> the trafen martin situation happened in february. chief boykin's situation happens in march of that same year and our nation is infutured. the people in our city, especially african-americans are infutured. it raised a lot of questions.
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and i think as well created some mistrust behind a lot of different things happening at the same time. >> buttigieg later rehired then demoted the chief. the controversy led too a extremely complicated chap of lawsuits have gone on for years with litigants appear lawyers prevented from speaking about what's on the tapes. the former police chief's attorney has seen a summary of the recordings and says what's alleged could raise question base white cops interacting with black suspects. >> if we've got the head of the metro homicide unit dropping racial ep thets how long is about before the innocence project comes in. >> lawyers for the officers recorded say there is nothing racist on the tapes but continues to file the release. gina williams prevent isn't on the city council and taking her own city to court demanding once and for all the tapes be played.
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>> this mystery around the tapes that has been looming over the community for so many years it's like a cloud. because every time there is some kind of incident, you know it kind of rips that band aid off and brings us back to the question, is there clear evidence of some sort of racism and by as within the police department? >> as for the mayor, he says he has not heard the tapes and will not release them without a court's decision because he doesn't want to violate wire tap laws which leaves him trying to explain his actions as he campaigns for president. >> i was, frankly, a little bit slow to understand just how much anguish underlay the community's response to this. for people in the community it wasn't just about whether we were right or wrong to be dernd rowe concerned about the federal wire tap act it was about whether communities of color could trust that police departments had their best interests at heart.
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>> in issue is far from over .city counsel called the common council continuing to press the mayor and city administration to release the tapes. and yesterday a judge ruled that that case can continue, so during in campaign we could actually foresee or see what was on those tapes. >> yeah, let's see what happens. good reporting drew. thank you very much. just ahead as isis claims responsibility for the horrific attack in sri lanka we are getting exclusive new details of an early warning that might have prevented the attack. ♪ be right back. with moderate to severe crohn's disease, i was there, just not always where i needed to be. is she alright? i hope so. so i talked to my doctor about humira.
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tonight isiss is claiming responsibility for the easter bombings killing more than 300 people in sri lanka. we are getting new information about early warnings of the
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attackings. let's go to will ripley on the ground in sri lanka. what are learning about the specific intelligence authorities received ahead of the terror aches. >> we are learning it wasn't just days before the attacks but weeks before that indian authorities and u.s. intelligence agencies were warning the government here that isis was plotting some kind of attack on the streets of sri lanka. indian authorities interrogated an isis suspect who said he trained a man by the name of zaran hashim identified on a video when they claimed responsibility, a video that stays that is prove into suicide bombers entered three hotels within a couple hundred meters of where i and a stand right now and also several churches across the sri lanka. those bombers were trained by isis reportedly. they left sri lanka and came back here and carry out the attack. which u.s. intelligence agencies have acknowledged it was oh was
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indicative of isis style assault in terms of time and targets. hotels full of foreigners, the churches, the shock of it all happening on easter sunday. there is outrage on the streets wondering why the government ignored the signs np the nationwide curfew was just lifted. there is heavy security here. arms cards all over. cars are returning to the streets here but still a state of emergency in effect and people are being warned to be vigilant. . . the government says they are concerned there can be a truck or van full of explosives on the streets here in colombo right now asset some point potentially wanting to debt nature the explosives and launch another attack. you have this chilling silence. people really on edge. process every noise you hear, perk up and look around. that's what life is like in sri lanka right now. >> it's really a sad -- i know they had a day of mourning. and it's heart wrenching to think of you will a the christians who were at easter sunday church services when the terrorists went in there and
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just started killing people and so many remain injured right now. our hearts go out to them. will ripley continue to be safe there. be careful. there could be more we're hearing potentially on the way. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next breaking news. the white house ignoring tonight's delinquent tor turn over trump's taxes. and now democrats about to make their next move in the high stakes showdown. plus jared kushner making a stunning claim, suggesting mueller's investigation was more damaging nan russia's attack on the 2016 election. and the. 's twitter tie raid, more than 50 tweets in less than 48 hours. what is going on inside the white house? let's go "outfront." good evening i'm erica hill in for erin burnett. outfront tonight" tonight the administ

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