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from philadelphia, we're in the battle for the soul of this nation. that's how former vice president joe biden characterized the stakes in the campaign that he just joined. biden sought to distinguish himself from the democratic field by explicitly confronting the man he hopes to face. and he did this with the very first words he spoke, charlottesville, virginia. and he went after the president by name, saying if donald trump spends eight years in the white house, he will, quote, fundamentally alter the character of this nation. joe biden cast this election as a referendum on donald trump. and he's right. that's something about which republicans and democrats and the president will probably agree.
this election has already been branded, like a building with his name on it. unemployment, gdp, immigration, mueller, russia, china, north korea, the supreme court. they aren't issues with differing views, so much as as a source of dialogue from the very foundation to the roof, about the influence of one person, dch trump. other democrats have spoken of their credentials and vision for the future. but it's fanciful to suggest that because voters don't bring up trump on the campaign trail, it's sufficient for candidates to only speak of their vision for america. yes, democratic candidates need to have a compelling vision for america, but to win, they must also win the tug-of-war for the president for the swing voters and to motivate others who don't vote to get off the sideline. races with incumbents are usually a referendum on the incumbent. this time, especially so. and each democratic candidate must initially convince the
primary electorate, why they're best suited to beat the president. joe biden was right to frame the election as a binary choice, for or against one man, donald trump. i want to know what you think this hour. go to my website at smerconish.com, answer today's survey question, do you agree, more than anything else the 2020 election is a referendum on donald trump? as biden continues to use the president's charlottesville comments as a jumping off point for his candidacy, president trump defended his very fine people on both sides answer. >> that question was answered perfectly. and i was talking about people that went, because they felt very strongly about the monument to robert e.l lee. a great general, people were there protesting the taking down of the monument of robert e.
lee. a great general. >> joining me now, kellyanne conway. welcome. >> give my best to my hometown philly. >> i have zapruder'd the tape on what the president said on charlottesville. i get to what he said he did not explicitly refer to white supremacists as fine people. i get that he did not condemnee neo-nazis but who are the fine people. >> well, i'm going to read what the president said at the time rather than have a lot of people pontificate and smear what the president actually said. he said, you have people in that group to protest the taking down of a very important statue of robert e. lee. he said, quote, i'm not talking about the neo-nazis and nationalists because they should be condemned. he goes on about the death of
heather hieyeheyer. and the president said, quote, racism is evil. and those who call violence in his name are thugs, including kkk and other hate groups. these are the statements of the president of the united states at the time. and anybody who just says -- gives the slur and the statement fine people and says that he meant the neo-nazis are lying about what he actually said at the time. that's important because he has made that clear -- i'm sorry -- steve cortez wrote a terrific people on politics that lays this out. >> i read it. i read it. listen, on sirius xm radio, i'm afforded the opportunity because we don't have commercials to lay the whole thing out like we don't have on television. but, listen, no fine person would stand alongside
torchbearers who are chanting "jews will not replace us." >> well, there's no question those people are the ones the president is condemning. you want to revisit this the way joe biden wants to revisit 2 respectfully. i found his announcement video to be unfortunate, certainly a missed opportunity. but also just very dark and spooky, in that he doesn't have a vision for the future. he doesn't mention president obama, the popular president who he has refused to endorse him. he doesn't lay out the future. and 2020 is a referendum on president trump as far as every election is a referendum on the incumbent president. donald trump has to argue against the monster breathe numbers, 3.2 gdp. >> i'm going to get to that. >> defying expectations -- well, but that's important because that's what most people are
talking about around the kitchen tables. >> let me slows -- >> go ahead -- you want to talk about the achievements of president trump -- >> no, no, i'm going to get to the economy. one last thought on charlottesville. it was not the perfect answer, because the perfect answer would have left no room for ambiguity or sberginterpretation. >> you get the final word. >> let me make it clear, there is no room for ambiguity and interpretation. the president specifically called out kkk, neonationalists, white supremacists. and i'll say it, if it weren't true, i wouldn't work in the white house. while people use charlottesville shorthand for many different things, they're letting it fly. it's very disappointing that the former vice president would do that when he's stuck having to apologize and account for what anita hill herself and other people in his democratic party where he's running for the
nomination think it's insuffer wait he mistreated her and lack of an apology. including just yesterday. he needs to first get past democratic primary voters who are incredibly skeptical, if not cynical, about his past. his lack of record. what he did or did not have to do with president obama's administration -- >> i have to interrupt. i don't want to run out of time. >> -- nine years ago after obamacare passed. >> but you see the polls show him -- he's readily beating donald trump in the polls. morning console among them just this week. >> all of those polls show donald trump losing up to election which is why he was on the network, cnn, all of the other cable stations that he was going to win. that hillary clinton had not gotten 50% in any of those swing states that president obama carried twice. >> i have a question about that. i have a question about that. when do we get the question of unity, it's seems that it's
often one of walls instead of bridges. i'm hard-pressed. and acknowledge that i didn't see the trump train coming last time around. as i look at that map from 2016. i'm hard-pressed to identify a single state that he lost. it hasn't been grown nor has there been a discernible effort. give me one state that you think donald trump can win in 2020 that he didn't win in 2016? >> obviously, it has smomething to do with where they sit. i think the bubble, in the corridor or the news business or those on politics on either side of the aisle see things through a very flair row prism that america doesn't see. this president in this election, november 9th said i will be the president of all americans even the ones who don't support me. and there were more than a few of them.
an he chuckled. there is great unity in the comedy that works for all americans. 7.3 million american jobs in record low unemployment rates for african-americans, hispanic, asians, 60% record for women. for teens. you've got deregulation that has saved us $33 billion and unleashed prosperity for property owners and taxpayers and small business owners. you've got the president, including said with prime minister shinzo abe of japan trying to broker improving relations all around the globe. that we have better relations like the folks you and i grew up with around the delaware valley. >> dgdp -- >> the 500,000 new manufacturing jobs is unifying. i'll tell what else is unifying, more people in drug addiction treatment -- >> i'm going to get to drugs.
>> more people in drug treatment. that's nonpartisan. >> okay. the economy. the gdp numbers, tremendous. the unemployment numbers, great. i think it's wonderful that those numbers are where they are. what about the deficit? because i know that we hit a 234 billion number. we put that on the screen as well. a record in february. it seems like, you know, the fiscal conservatism that used to be part and parcel of the republican party is not a part and parcel of this white house. respond to that issue. >> there is great concern about the deficit and i'll tell you why. this country has become addicted to spending particularly in the previous two administrations. i believe the deficit near but doubled over the eight years that president obama was there but you had other republicans spending a ton of money, too. i would like to see, personally, more fiscal responsibility. what happens is, the moment you try to restructure or eliminates programs that aren't working,
everybody screams, you're cutting this, you're starving people, throwing grandma out of the wheelchair off the cliff all of which is hyperbolic and hysterical and cwill be used fo political purposes, of course. but the president, through his first 2 1/2 years in office, michael, practically has reduced taxes, reduced regulations. unleashed energy. is rebalancing his trade deals and has focused on job creation that we were told flat on their backs, go ago broad. manufacturing, mining, warehousing. construction, all of those are way up. i personally would like forever the republican party and this president to get back to what he has. he's tried to invest in the military and trying to eliminate programs that don't work and people scream bloody murder when he does. >> i want to get to an important subject to you. you lead the white house anti-drug effort. you were with the president and
the first lady on opioids in atlanta this week. i applaud the president trying to counter the scourge of opioid addiction. why not try to get over the divide that exists between state and federal law and make it easier for the opioid addicted to have access to medical marijuana as an alternative, will he champion that effort? >> let me say this about, today is national takeback day means that you can take your unused, unneeded expired pills, prescription medication, michael to police stations, community centers, hospitals. there are 5500 location that's have been identified by google. if you type into the search bar, return my medication or unused pills, google will provide a number of locations. this is just a brilliant service they're providing americans. >> well, what about pot?
>> well, i want to say something to you, because of this president's leadership, because of hr-6 which was overwhelmin y ly bipartisan when signed into law last year, a 64% increase of americans on medical-assisted treatment, we have more teens getting treatment than they did previously. this is important because the president has allowed the states to free up their medicaid dollars to pay for the medication-assisted treatment. there are many therapies out there that don't involve marijuana. i think you want to have a whole marijuana debate under the guys of opioids. we would be remiss -- the media doesn't like to cover this, local media coverage -- >> that's not true. i talk about opioids here on a regular basis and constantly in on my regular show. it's time to end the divide. >> i think you actually said -- you actually said -- well, the federal law will be discussed over time. but not every state agrees with you.
and let's just make clear, too, that for all of the folks that talk about the benefits and the legality of marijuana, there are many health professionals and employers increasingly concerned that this is not your grandfather or your father's marijuana. the tch components are mump stronger. >> understanood. >> people are failing drug tests because they're overusing or abusing prescription opioids and chronically abusing marijuana. we can't say it's all good for everyone. we're concerned about the brains. anyway, i'll come back another day for that. today that tiny little bottle, michael, is tricky. it's legally prescribed to help you with temporary pain. but if you no longer need it and it's sitting around in grandma's medicine cabinet or dad's gym bag, get rid of it today. >> done it. today's the day. okay. >> get rid of it.
>> come back, and thank you. >> can i say something else? the president and first lady have tackled this as a signature issue. they went through not promises and platitudes in atlanta. they went through a progress report. and i'm very happy to leave you with this, that hr-6 passed with every single democratic vote in the house and senate, including every democrat in the house and senate currently running for president. it's a great mess afternoon of unit and a great example of working together for the greater good of america. >> thank you, kellyanne. >> thank you, mike. >> i want to know what you think, go to my website smerconish.com. more than anything else, the 2020 election is a donald trump. joe biden focusing on a crucial state, right here in pennsylvania. what are his chances? and kate smith's songs have
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after months of teasing, joe biden has officially jumped in the race for president. the former vice president's first fund-raiser was in pennsylvan pennsylvania thursday, monday, he's doing a union event in pittsburgh. the first official event will be in philadelphia on may 18th. the focus on the state after what became painfully apparent in 2016, all eyes go to the keystone state. joining me man, the man on the fund-raiser thursday, and david urban who ran the campaign in 2016. david, they said there's alarm belling piece sounded among the trump intelligentsia. they all came on thursday. i think you were in that room. what's the level of concern? >> so, michael, that article was completely, completely wrong.
there were no alarm bells ringing. we were having an early meeting to get the teams together, to establish connectivity as you do early on in the campaign. the report was completely erroneous on every level. >> you know he's upside down in the numbers in a lot of these rust belt states. you've got to be troubled about that? >> no, michael, as you know, as the president knows, winning in pennsylvania is not easy. it's why it hasn't been done in 30 years but i like our chances. look, as long as the democrats are talking about allowing terrorists to vote while still in incarcerated. killing cows. government-run health care. free college stipends for people who work and don't work, lots of crazy left-wing ideas. while this president and this administration can churn out incredible numbers in terms. economy and growth. look, the department of labor industry in pennsylvania as you're probably well aware said
march unemployment in pennsylvania all-time low. all-time low, historic. >> yeah, i've got -- in fact, we're going to respond to that. i have graphs on unemployment in pennsylvania. kathryn, put them up. unemployment way down. wages on the rise. the manufacturing -- yeah, the manufacturing numbers have come back. that's annual wages. mayor nutter, he is upside down in the polls, meaning pennsylvanians thursday far, the majority, saying they won't vote for donald trump. but the economic numbers are in this corner, agreed? >> well, michael, depends on where you live. we know unemployment only counts for people who are working or who are looking for work. does not count the folks who have basically given up or basically dropped out. so if you're in the middle of northern philadelphia or west philadelphia, or some places i'm sure in pittsburgh or other places in pennsylvania, those numbers are not true in any circumstance. and so, you know, there's
national numbers. there's state numbers, and then there's on the ground where real people live and are struggling in many, many communities across pennsylvania and across the united states of america. you know, the concept of either lowering the cost of college or, in some instances for some, possibly even free, that's not a wild idea. >> no, mr. mayor, please -- >> not lowering the costs, please, please. >> david, david, you got to give your speech. >> okay. >> let me make a few points here. you know, trying to deal with climate change, and the real issues, unlike, of course, the current occupant of the white house a climate change denier. you know, those are all distractions. the fact of the matter, michael smerconish, when you had miss conway on earlier, she actually could not name a new state that was lost in 2016. >> yeah, urban, david, what's
your -- >> i found that stand very interesting. >> i'll give you two. mr. mayor, what do you say about virginia where you have a racism democratic governor who wore black face? you have a lieutenant governor understand siege for alleged, you know, sexual assault. and yet the democratic party hasn't forced them out? what do you say to that? what's your answer to voters in virginia saying we lost virginia by four points. we lost minnesota by two points. i think we'll be competitive in both. >> yeah, david, i don't know if that's going to be your strategy to try to talk about any of those kinds of things. given the fact that you've got a president who has so many accusations against him. so many people in his own administration under investigation. the full details of the mueller report yet to be fully released and examined. he was not exactly exonerated. those are his words.
not anyone else's. as joe biden said this will be a battle for the soul of the nation. there is an interest in restoring some level of additional dignity to the leadership of the united states of america. this should be an issue-oriented campaign. of course, the current occupant of the white house could not restrain himself because he has no restraint. glenn, with the nicknames for people. everyone actually has a name. they don't need a nickname from the current occupant of the white house. so, why don't we talk about real issues and real people and real struggles that folks are facing and scut ocut out a lot of atta. >> guys, can i get in here? >> although is the mayor endorsing for president? >> joe biden, he was on the committee. >> i just don't know if he endorsed him. >> i know, but i read the list of endorsements i don't think he's made the endorsement. >> i haven't made a formal
endorsement, but my name was on the event. i've sent in a check. i've known joe biden for a long, long period of time. i don't think what i'm doing or who i might be for is relevant. >> oh, of course, it is. >> one final question, i have a quick final question for david urban. quick final question for david urban. i know mathematically, he can get home without pennsylvania. as a practical matter, you'd agree with me, he needs the keystone state, he being the president, right? >> look, michael, i believe it's absolutely imperative. i think the administration thinks it's imperative. and the president thinks it's imperative. michael you you and i talked, the mayor and i talked. we'd see each other on the train. >> yeah. >> and we'd talk. i knew there was a path of victory there. i still think there's a path of victory now. we're not going to do things differently. we're going to do it better. we're going to reach out to those same voters that i don't
think felt really the democratic party reached out to them in lucerne, beaver, greene, all of the counties that they turn out for strong voter turnout, we're gl going back there again. >> okay, david. >> we'll see you on the field. >> i'm not needed here by these two guys. i'm just not needed here. thank you, men. go to the smerconish twitter and facebook pages, what do we got? if the economy hangs in there, so will @realdonaldtrump. nothing against. i had this conversation with joe carville. the point he made, he thinks the president's numbers were as high as they can be because of the strength of the economy. if the economy should take a turn, there will be no saving him politically speaking. he says it more clearly than i do. answer this question at my website, agree or disagree, more
than anything else, this election is a referendum on donald trump. up ahead, we have a new book that says compassion actually saves lives. i've got the first tv interview with one of the authors. and -- ♪ someone had to pick the cotton ♪ >> that song is why kate smith has recently been removed from sports arenas in stats tu and song. some new evidence suggests that the singer herself may not have been a racist. health is magnificent.
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well, some complicating evidence has now come to light in the controversy over the late singer kate smith. i covered this story last week. you may recall it because two songs of her roughly 2,000 in her catalog had racial lyrics. and her statue that stood outside of a sports arena since 1987 the year after she died was quickly taken down. here's an excerpt. ♪ someone had to slave and be able to sing ♪ that's why >> in the wake of that, the
"national enquirer" unearthed a radio address that smith gave during world war ii called "the value of tolerance." smith called for every church and family to commit to tolerance and understanding. while there's no audio of the cbs program "we the people" which by the way had millions of listens, there is a transcript that reads in part, social prejudices, religious bigotry, they are the diseases that eat away the fibers of peace. unless they are exterminated, it's inevitable that we'll have another war. and where are they going to be exterminated? at a conference table in geneva? not by a long shot. in your own city, your church, your children's school, perhaps in your home. the one thing the peoples of the world have got to learn is if we are ever to have a lasting peace
it's tolerance. does she deserve to be written off? the mayor of one shore town weighs, he says not only will "god bless america" continue to be played on his board walk but if the statue becomes available, he'll be happy to put it there. he said smith had been awarded the presidential medal of freedom. 88 years ago, she did something that was at the time acceptable means of conversation, i'm not saying it was right, but the times were different. well, yes, they were. and yes, they are. still to come, when health care providers exhibit compassion, it actually saves lives, according to a new book. and how does a parking enforcement officer chalking your tires violate your constitutional rights? find out, next. included for jus.
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initiated by my next guest, attorney philip ellison joins me now, counsel, tell me the story of what led to this battle. >> well, as all good stories start, it's by a fluke. i was talking with my co-counsel on this case, matt grandachl, h sitting in the courthouse, the lady who runs the parking department came by and marked all of his tires. and all of the neighbors tires, going back and forth to say, how is this right? is this a search? and lo and behold a couple of hours of research later we discovered it looks like it could be unconstitutional. we made a federal case out of it. >> so, you took to facebook and you explained what happened to your colleague, while he's literally on the phone with you, the car gets chalked. now forward-steps a woman who says, hey, i've been written up
14 times by that same individual. and now you launch the challenge. how is this a search? >> well, this is a search because the u.s. supreme court in a decision about five years ago in a case called u.s. v. jones says if the government fres pa trespasses whether your house or your yard and they're doing it to extract information, that's a search. for search, you either need a warrant or exception to the warrant requirements. and the city of saginaw, there are two big arguments, community caretaking and the automobile reveal exception. a local judge bought it. and we appealed to the sixth circuit in cincinnati. and the sixth circuit said neither onal pe aal applied. and held that they are putting a search when they put that chalk mark on your tire because they're invading your vehicle in
the space it belongs in. >> so sixth circuit which sits in cincinnati is kentucky, michigan, ohio and tennessee. what now? what about other states? >> well, as of right now, this ruling only applies to those four states that you've identified there as a binding precedent for federal court purposes. however, for the rest of the country, it serves for, i think, as a model or benchmark because perhaps other municipalities should take note. because i suspect another lawyer like me is go together bring a challenge to their individual communities and challenge their parking officials with their chalk marks in their hometowns. so it's authority for others. >> final question, did you win the battle but lose the war? because now they'll use technology and that will cost taxpayers more? >> well, all i'm looking for is to make sure the government stays off our property. and if they're going to be looking at us with cameras and things of that nature, that's probably going to be another case for another day. >> thank you, counsel. >> thank you very much for having me.
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compassion saves lives. that's the takeaway from a brand-new book that for the first time reviews all of the relevant biomedical literature, over 250 scientific research papers and more than 1,000 research abstracts. turns out that compassion from health care providers isn't only proper and just. but also improves patient outcomes. compassion also decreases costs and combats the burnout that is rampant among those who provide care. joining me now is dr. anthony masserelli, he's the
co-president in camden university and co-author of "compassionomics," the revolutionary science that caring makes a difference. doctor, the antidotes in book, very amusing. it's the data, give us the evidence that compassion improves outcomes. >> thank you, michael. i'll give you three quick examples from the book. first, let's talk about diabetes, when you look at health care providers that score on a standard tool, patients with diabetes have an 80% higher odds of optimal glues clocose c. and let's talk about hiv. john hopkins did a study where they asked hiv positions does your position know you as a
person. of the patient who said yes, 33% higher odds of those patients actually taking their medications. and 20% higher odds of those patients having no viral load of hiv in their blood. think about patients with surgery, multiple comparisons of infusing compassion from a dock or nurse in a preoperative area, those patients required less sedative medication before go being the o.r. and before the o.r., less opioid pain medication and got out of the hospital quickly after the surgery. >> what about cost? my sense a lot of this is time-based. and physicians don't have time. health care today is, what, 18% of gdp. how can being compassionate actually improve costs? >> so, there are several in the book. i'll giver you two quick examples. the first has to do with adhe
adherence to medication. saying drugs don't work inpatients that don't take them. there's $300 million a year in studies that show preventible disease costs because of people who don't take their medications. the second example i'll give you has to do with resource use kwhin health care, so physicians to practice and all health care providers who practice lower patient centered care those have lower charges. those patients are 59% lower odds of being referred to a specialist and 84% lower diagnostic testing. >> burnout is another factor. i imagine that burnout would be affected adversely, because if uncompassionate as a provider, it 150e78s i'm going to get closer to my patients. i'm going to take their losses that much harder, right? or wrong?
>> well, so, burnout is an epidemic in health care right now. one of the latest and hallmark studies that's come out, shows that actually over 50% of providers show some sign of burnout. and traditional sort of teaching in medical school mirrors exactly what you're saying in that this idea of don't get too close to patients because you risk being burned out. in reviewing things in the book, my co-author steve trzeciak and i have actually found the opposite. we go to the newer science to look at that. in functional mirs for those that treat compassion, what they found it actually lights up areas of the brain associated with reward. in other words, it's the opposite. those who give compassion actually benefit themselves from providing compassion to others. burnout is not getting too close to patients. >> quick final question. there's an illustration in the book. put it up on the screen,
kathryn. a 7-year-old, i think, drew it. what's going on? give me the bottom line as to the significance? >> so, that sa picture publishe in the american journal, the pediatrician has his screen on the screen. the 7-year-old drew it because now the evidence shows physicians are spending more time looking at the screen than looking at the patience in the eye. you need less than a minute to actually deliver compassion and give that compression to patients. five studies with a median of 40 seconds is all it takes to demonstrate compassion to patients. really, what we've found, there's science in the art of medicine. and that science is strong and it can be done. that's what we're hoping to show when combined stories with data in this book. really, we think compassion can be the wonder drug of 21st century. >> book is called compassionomics, dr. anthony z
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smerconish.com. "more than anything else, the 2020 election is a referendum on donald trump." survey says -- wow, look at the result. agree, 94%. i'll leave the question up for the rest of the day. what else, kathryn? hit me up with another one. if it is about donald trump then the democrats have already lost. really? i wonder how you get there? i wonder how you get to that conclusion. i think if it's about donald trump the country is split right down the middle. and the economy is going to have something to do about it as well. >> thanks for watching. tuesday night, i'll see you in nashville. i'll see you next week.
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