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people have been charged, remember, in the scandal including actresses felicity huffman and lori loughlin, a fascinating update of a story we'll ton cover. thanks for joining me. "inside politics" with john king starts right now. thank you, kate and welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. thank you for sharing your day with us. a powerful jobs report is a political gift for president trump. 263,000 new jobs last month. 103 consecutive months of job gains. the unemployment rate falls to 3.6%. plus bernie sanders takes sharp aim at joe biden show the former vice president with a big early lead in the democratic race. not as big as hillary clinton's early lead a few years ago, but, remember, there were really only two candidates in that race. this one has 22. and rare public comments from jared kushner. insights on a middle east peace plan he promises is almost ready
and on the pressure of working for your father-in-law, the president. >> doing it the old work hasn't really worked so, you know, we are who we are, and we're going to say what we say. we're going do what we think is right, and -- and people will either react positively to it or they will react negatively to it. when the president asked us to take this on, jason, david and myself, he said no, i want you guys to real try to solve this. >> we begin the hour with a triumphant presidential tweet with characters to spare. jobs, jobs, jobs. 263,000 to be exact added in april as america's economic boom continues to exceed expectations. how strong is it? diana ross and the supremes were still together and atop the charts the last time the unemployment rate was 3.6%. that was december 1969. credence clearwater revival, peter, paul aifrm mary in the top ten and richard nixon was president. doris day on the cover of "tv guide." yes, 103 months consecutive
months of job growth means the boom roots are in the obama presidency but the politics are still golden for president trump as he heads into re-election season. a deeper look at the numbers first though from cnn's christine romans. >> reporter: john, boon, another strong month for job creation, 263,000 net new jobs in the month of april that. shows that companies are hiring briskly, and the unemployment rate down to 3.6%. this matches a low from all the way back to 1969, and when you look at certain job categories, you can see record lows for some of those job categories, so this has been a continuation of a trend of strong hiring and lower unemployment. where was the hiring? business and information services, very strong hiring there, construction as well. 33,000 net new jobs and a rebound in manufacturing, and this is something that we were really closely watching here because manufacturing jobs fell last month and then rebounded
here. this has been a strong spot under the trump administration. half a million jobs created there in manufacturing. look, when you're talking about numbers like this, this -- this is raising some questions about why the fed is on hold uncertain strong economy. you've got 3.2% gdp growth we learned last week and 3.6% unemployment rate. john, this is a very strong economy right now. >> christine romans, appreciate that. with me in the studio to share their reporting katherine lucy, cnn's manu raju and jonathan martin with the "new york times" and anna swanson also with the "new york times." if you look at the numbers, you can't help, whether you're an american, thinking 3.6% unemployment rate, 2263,000 new jobs. everyone keeps waiting with global pressures to the u.s. economy to slow. what's the fuel? >> well, i think there is plenty of milestones here for president trump to brag about, and it is the continuation of a very long strong economy that we're seeing here. the unemployment rate dropping
to a 50-year low. next month that economic expansion will also tie with a period in the 1990s for the longest economic expansion on record. there are a few things to quibble with here in terms of the numbers. the unemployment rate actually fell for the wrong reasons as more people stepped out of the labor force, but on the whole, a really strong report and it puts to rest the fears of recession that we saw earlier this year. >> and the people who stepped out, non-participation, if you will, blue collar people who are having trouble in the global economy with automation. there's the small needle democrats can try to thread in the sense of saying some of you are being left out, but if you're president trump and talking about this from an economic standpoint, i want to show up on the screen. going back to the battleground states of 2016. pennsylvania, he turned it from blue to rate. the unemployment rate is down from 2016, wisconsin, michigan, florida, ohio. the states you look at on a presidential map and you're saying, okay, how do the democrats evict president trump in this strong economy from the oval office and you look at
those states, what's the path on the economy? >> he's got a good story to tell, and that should be his message going into his re-election is the fact that things are turning around and the states that i promised. however, this president is not somebody who is known to stay on a single message. >> real, you don't say. >> in my observations the last couple of year and the more daunting fact i think for president trump is the famous james carville maxim from maine 92 of it's the economy, stupid, is increasingly being proven to be not the case, that this is a -- a values-driven electorate more than it is a pocketbook driven electorate. look, the folks who lost their house seats last year in the mid-terms overwhelmingly came from high-income districts where the economy is doing great. why did they lose? because vote remembers rejecting trump's behavior and conduct and if that doesn't change he'll be very vulnerable. >> this is the defining question at least at this moment because the president thinks you're wrong in the sense he thinks,
sure, that happened last year, in the congressional elections, i wasn't on the ballot. >> sure. >> he thinks he'll be on the ballot and we don't know who the democrats will nominate and can they push them to some extreme margin. mick mulvaney as a matter of fact thinks he's trying to get the president to be more disciplined and he likes that old james carville saying. >> hate to sound like a cliche but are you better off than you were four years ago. it's pretty simple, it's the economy, stupid, i think that's easiy. people will vote for somebody they don't like if they think it's good for them and we think generally speaking the economy has been good for everybody. >> people will vote for somebody they don't like. the president's chief of staff, the president's chief of staff. >> remarkable. >> saying pubically there's a lot of people out there that don't like the president. we have to convince him to vote for him and we think the economy is the calling card. >> pretty remarkable. if you look at the poll numbers they show the one issue in which he's doing well on is the economy. the only one really he's over 50%. everything else he's underwater. the president's approval ratings, he's at 43%, 44%.
if this was a president who was more popular, people liked his behavior, weren't all these controversies, he would be way over 43%, 44% in this kind of economy. democrats, their challenge is how much do they focus on his character? you saw joe biden come out very early and focus on his character. other democratic candidates have looked at the issues that he does not do as well on such as healthcare, immigration. they believe they can focus on those specific issues rather than talking about the economy as a whole and his character. they think they can be more effective. >> one of the issues, too, no one things there's huge numbers of undecideds and independents in the middle that will be going away. it's driving base voters out and getting republicans out. he needs enthusiasm in those key states and these kind of numbers, this kind of economy should help. >> and people in this town, economic professionals have argued from day one about the president's approach. why do you saber rattle on trade and threaten the chinese and
threaten the europeans and why do you threaten the fed? why do you threaten the fed? they argue with the process? it's impossible to argue with the results, the numbers had. the question is there something over the horizon? we're having this conversation in it the first week of may 2019. how the economy looks the first week of may 2020 will say a lot more about the president's chances. listen to him here. he's pushing the fed would. still like lower interest rates. the fed so far, somebody on air this morning saying they have noise-cancelling head phones on. not listening to the president as of now and has trade issues on the table including with president. the president says he's optimistic. >> we are very close to a deal with china, but it's a question of whether or not i want to make it. i mean, we're going to make a real deal or we're not going to make a deal at all, and if we don't make a deal, we're going to tariff china and that will be fine. we'll frankly make a lot of money, and if we don't make a deal at all we'll use tariffs and will get back so much money your head will spin. >> this is what makes this president fascinating. confounding to some and frustrating to others but
fascinating if he were a normal politician he would listen to his aides who say cut the best deal you can with china, cut the best deal of anything out there, and push to get the u.s., mexico, canada agreement passed. be tradition a. things are great. don't get on a roller coaster. he says maybe i'll walk away if i don't like it. >> he keeps threatening to walk away. we could see a deal with china as early as next week, but the president and his advisers are still really holding out this possibility that there could be no deal and that's really thrown the markets for a loop over the past year. i do think that this deal is something that would be welcomed by the business community. it's probably arguably better than what past administrations have gotten from china just because the china staked out this very maximalist position, but there are a few things that it leaves on the cutting room floor, including getting china to make some moves on things like subsidies, data rules, cyber theft, and those are things that the democrats are probably going to pile on criticizing him for after the deal is cut.
>> but, john, you make a great point though because the president has heard all these concerns from people saying the sky is going to fall about tariffs. the government shutdown, the longest in history, the economy is going to collapse, and then he sees these numbers and he says i don't need to listen to anybody. >> right. >> i'm going to do everything that i want and everything will be just fine, and that's what concerns some of his als. i also in his negotiating style to always suggest that he could walk away. >> yeah. >> he's never going to sort of put that out there. >> right. >> he has to make a deal, and he thinks he needs to be clear. >> the question is now we will see the choices he makes weeks and months ahead and we'll circle back one year from this year and see what it looks like may as we head into the actual months. the white house says the president of the united states spoke on the phone with the russian president vladimir putin this morning. it's their first known conversation since late last year. cnn's kaitlan collins live with some of the details. what do we know? >> reporter: john, first known conversation since the special counsel's report came out, something that sarah sanders said did come up during that call, and she said that during
this call that was generally overall positive, sarah sanders said they talked about the mueller report hand that both leaders said they were glad that no collusion was found, something they both knew from the start and what she didn't get was in the first section that have report which was russian interference in the election. now sarah sanders said the administration is doing more than the obama administration to make sure that doesn't happen again, but she didn't talk specifically about what the president said to the russian president about what his country did to interfere in the election. now, john, they also talked about several other topics including trade, ukraine, north korea as well, and this is what she said was the president's message to the russian president about north korea. >> they spoke about north korea for a good bit of time on the call and reiterated both the commitment and the need for denuclearization, and the president said several times on this front as well the need and
importance of russia stepping up and continuing to help and put pressure on north korea to denuclearize. >> the other big topic, of course, that came up was venezuela, and what's happening right now because we know that inside the white house there's been several meetings, not only here but also at the pentagon, between the president's top military officials about what to do next in venezuela, and this comes after the secretary of state mike pompeo alleged that russia was the one who convinced maduro not to leave venezuela recently when they said he was prepared to. now when we asked about what the president's message was to vladimir putin about that, she just talked about how the president urged the need for a peaceful transition of power in venezuela but didn't say what putin's response was to that and if he agreed to back off what russia has been doing in venezuela which, of course, has been a big topic here at the white house because not only have they been putting pressure
on cuba with the threat of a full exbarringo. a big call this morning. they spoke for over an hour on a lot of topics, and we will get a more detailed readout to come. >> just clear this up. did she say they did not discuss russian election interference or she didn't say anything about it. >> reporter: didn't answer the question specifically about did they talk about russian interference. instead she criticized the obama administration and talked about what the trump administration is doing. john, we should note we've not been pubically told about any kind of meeting between president trump and cabinet officials on election security since last july. we know that other sources inside the administration have told us they are doing their work. not signature around waiting for president trump to give them some kind of directive to focus on election security. we should noed note that president trump and his cabinet officials have not held a meeting on election security since last year. >> look for that more detailed readout. they will have some explaining to do if it didn't come up at all. kaitlan collins at the white house, appreciate that.
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counsel don mcgahn and he said no, it's wrapped up. >> i've had him testify for 30 years. >> so is the answer -- >> i can let him and tell everybody you can. i would say it's done. we've been through this. >> over. >> nobody has ever done what i've done. i've given total transparency. it's never happened before like this. >> politico's sarah kagle joins us. the president hasn't given total transparency. he tries to cement into the public narrative things that aren't true like they were rebuffed he says about the russians. that's what you call having a meeting with them at trump tower, rebuffing them. you reported news of this letter last hour. does the chairman have any expectation he'll get what he wants? >> there's very little expectation. we'll see a contempt proceeding play out next week. the committee -- the chairman has made it very clear that if they don't get both the underlying evidence and the unredacted report that they plan to move forward. what's interesting in this letter he does offer some accommodation and says they are
prepared to discuss limiting and prioritizing the request for the underlying evidence. they are trying to show that they are being as accommodating as possible to the department and the department rejecting their request so when they eventually do go to court to try to get all the information they are asking they can tell the court, hey, we've done everything possible and the justice department is stonewalling us at every turn, but this is just part of the larger fight with the justice department and the trump administration as a whole which is rejecting the requests at almost every turn and you mentioned mcgahn, there's a subpoena for him compelling his appearance but the white house may try to invoke executive privilege. >> subpoena for mcgahn. we'll likely see executive privilege and the president's taxes have come up and the speaker of the house yesterday said she thinks the attorney general, top cop, top law enforcement officer of the united states is a criminal, that he lied to congress. right now they seem totally in confrontation. >> we saw nancy pelosi yesterday go as far as she's going to go right now. she said barr committed a crime,
right, pretty strong language from the speaker of the house but at the same time in a closed door meeting an hour before she reiterated her stance that trump is too good for impeachment. democratic leaders don't want impeachment but what they want to do is take every legal stance to investigate trump and to be honest run out the clock a little bit on these impeaching proceedings because the closer we get to 2020 the less likely other rank and file members will do it. >> that's where you have the politics come into this. there's an internal push if they are going to keep saying no, won't give us wednesday or documents what with rewaiting for and have witnesses and go forward and the president with the strong economic numbers who will start making the case the democrats are only coming after me with these investigations because you have a job. your wages are going up. i'm doing great for the country and they want to knock me down this country. okay, after two years of hard work and each party trying to make the other party looking as bad as possible. the mueller report strongly stated there was no collusion of
russia, of course, and they were rebuffed. they weren't rebuffed. at every turn attempts to gain access but democrats and republicans must come together for the good of the american people and goes on and talks about issues he would like to get done. >> yes. >> again, i have to do this every dime. they weren't rebuffed. they got a meeting at trump tower. other conversations. bob mueller said he could not prove a criminal conspiracy. >> the problem with that kind of tweet and then you add in also he met with pelosi and democrats about a big jobs bill this week, and he is basically sort of good cop bad cop, you know. he does that and then he'll lash out at union bosses, the media, you name it. and so it's sort of disjointed, and i think there's less of a sort of a lure for democrats to try to come to the table because they don't think he's going to actually hold to his promise to focus on drug prices or a jobs bill or what have you because they don't know what trump they are going to get, and also the fact is that mitch mcconnell in
the senate, they don't want to work on those -- they don't want to the do a big deficit spend. they don't want to, you know, cross swords with pharma to lower drug prices, you know. so hits challenge isn't democrats in the house, also his own party in the senate that doesn't want to cut these deals. >> it is interesting that as all of this is going on, all the conflict, both the white house and democrats do want to suggest that they are trying to work in a bipartisan way, that they had this meeting, and that both sides. >> optics. >> there is -- there's an effort to sort of suggest that there's the possibility of working together. >> and the democrats in the housing, they have to do that for these democrats who are in those districts that trump carried. pelosi has to show that we're not just investigating trump. we're not like the aoc wing of the party. we're actually trying to do something on a bipartisan basis and that's their intention because they do want to investigate all aspects of the trump presidency but at the same time look like they are trying to work with him as well. >> trump says $2 trillion and the house democrats love that idea for a big roads bill, but
the problem is there's no follow-through because his staff doesn't want to have a bill that big. mick mulvaney doesn't want to and the senate republicans don't want to touch it either. you move on to the next thing. >> that's two weeks away. the president met with them earlier. two and a half weeks from now we'll see if the president comes up with how to raise the money and the democrats will walk away and say the president couldn't come up with the money. we shall see. up next, we move to the democrats. are the niceties of 2020 over? democrat san bernie sanders taking sharp aim at the guy you would call the front-runner, joe biden. has been excellent. they really appreciate the military family and it really shows. with all that usaa offers why go with anybody else? we know their rates are good, we know that they're always going to take care of us. it was an instant savings and i should have changed a long time ago. it was funny because when we would call another insurance company, hey would say "oh we can't beat usaa" we're the webber family. we're the tenney's we're the hayles, and we're usaa members for life. ♪ get your usaa auto insurance quote today.
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president trump isn't worried about a significant republican primary challenge, at least not yes. so he's very much enjoying meddling across the aisle. >> biden seems to have a lead. i'd be very happy if it were biden. >> happy why? >> sleepy joe. i think he does -- i think he did a bad job. i'd be running against -- >> you think he's beatable? >> i don't think he'll be a good candidate. we'll see what happens. i hope -- i wish him well. i would like him to get it. i'd be happy. i'd be happy with bernie. i personally think it's those two. >> now the president went on though -- >> careful. >> the president went on to side with senator sanders in one new flashpoint in the democratic race.
>> for somebody to be so naive and say that china is not a problem, if biden actually said that, that's a very dumb statement. >> now team biden says all the former vice president meant was that american economy is far stronger than china's economy so america will be just fine, but sand earns is using china and trade as dividing lines as he aggressively draws contrasts. >> our trade policies over the years have been a disaster for workers in this country. if you add the job losses as a result of nafta which joe voted for. joe a friend of mine, and we're going to have this policy discussion in a very civil war, but joe voted for nafta. he voted for pntr with china and those two trade policies together, you're probably talking about the loss of more than 4 million jobs and, by the way, a race to the bottom. >> early, aggressive, bernie sanders' own decisions. cnn ryan nobles reporting the other day saying i'm going after biden.
i'm not waiting. why wait? >> it's striking that monday and thursday night you see a top candidate for president going on cable tv. here on monday night with anderson cooper and obviously with chris hayes thursday night and biden by name targeting the front-runner. nobody else in the race is doing that. why is bernie doing? because he wants to try to consolidate the left. he knows there's a lot more folks vying for it this time than there were three years ago and also because he wants to stay in the conversation. you know, he needs to have his name mentioned with biden's and with all these other candidates and this is a way that he knows we in the press, when we see a candidate attack somebody, we'll cover, that and he knows, that and this is the way to sort of stay in the conversation right now, but there's real risk, john, in doing this. you know well. if you attack somebody else in a multi-candidate ration, oftentimes you don't benefit from it. somebody else does. >> and at this point the difference is in the race. i'll go backwards and show you some polling. this is may 20 is a if you look
at polling up here. may 2015, hillary clinton at 57%, bernie sanders at 15%, right. joe biden didn't end up running, he's at 9% in this poll, lincoln chaffee and martin o'malley, a two-person race, hillary clinton versus bernie sanders. he was at 15% then, 15%. let me clear this off. he went on to do just fine. the lighter blue states are the sanders states. she was nominee but bernie sanders won a lot of states. you can go from 15% to winning a lot of states. here's the problem. here's where he is today. in today's race he's at 15%, exactly the same point he was at in 2015 heading into it, but biden, warren, buttigieg, beto, this is only one screen. another screen of the democratic candidates. it's not going to be a two-person race. he didn't get a clear straight shot and you mentioned he's going after biden, but that's bernie vote. how much of that is bernie vote, and how much of that is bernie vote? how do you play the chess here in a crowd field? it's very different. >> a lot of these candidates are
sitting back and waiting for bernie to suffer for going after biden. he's going after biden and careful in his criticism and not very personal. bernie going after his views on policy. that's how he's trying to shape the race and we'll see how much backlash and that's why a lot of the other candidates are not engaging with the front-runner. waiting for person toe do it and maybe someone else will do it and perhaps they will have benefit ultimately. i think we'll see a lot of that play out in the debates of 20 people in two consecutive nights. it will be interesting when bernie starts getting whacked from folks who are concerned that he's trying to consolidate those. >> bernie has to look at this very differently than last time. it took him much longer to try to draw the contrast. kept the focus on his policies and his record and being much more aggressive earlier and that's because he's coming off of a previous race but it's such a different landscape. >> i want to emphasize a point you made showing these folks in
the pohl poll. you've got multile candidates sharing one share of the democratic primaries which is high education, mostly white, liberal leaning. that's just a slice of the democratic primary. one that's very engage right now, especially online, but it's not the totality of the primary. the challenge for bernie is that you've got so many candidates appealing to those kind of voters, warren for one. booegt, beto, they are all sort of playing for those sort of voters, and there's not a lot of those voters to go around when you've got four to five candidate all playing for them. >> i want to show you again. i didn't show the candidates. you've got castro, swalwell, gillibrand and inlee and the larger group, biden 39, 15, 8, 7, 6. it's harder to play the chess game when it's not just -- i used to say in the 2016 race, bernie was the pt boat and hillary clinton was the aircraft carrier. tea a lot more complicated this time. >> yeah, sure. these candidates are -- there's no downside to them sitting back
and letting bernie try to throw different things at the wall and see what sticks with biden, right? he's trying trade right now. that might work, that might not. what will he try next and they might let him take the fall for it? >> if they do start as a group and attacks pick up and this gets more negative. this is plays into exactly what the republicans and the president are hoping, that they spend the next year bloodying each other and the eventual nominee that withstood a lot of the tags. >> it's not just the whos, serious whats, medicare for all, grown new deal and obamacare, we get caught up in the who and the personal fenway park and board and we shall see. fun between two guys who have a history. ted cruz taking a dig at fellow senator michael bennett saying the presidential campaign quote, a "seinfeld" campaign about nothing. bennett not to be outdone tweeting back with this "seinfeld" gif. oh, more from michael bennett
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. jarred kushner told a washington audience that he's still reviving a middle east peace plan and will have a final version of an in-depth operational document. as a reminder kushner two years ago next month said the plan would be ready soon so it's been a long wait but we rarely hear from the president's son-in-law and what we did hear makes clear that the trump will toss aside the long-standing language of peace attempts and veterans of those long-standing attempts see that choice as very revealing. >> a lot of the discussion and a lot of the disagreement seems to be about the high level concept, two-state versus one state. you can't say two-state and i realize that means different things to different people. it means one thing to the israelis and means something to the palestinians so let's not just say it. let's just say let's work on the details of what this means. >> joining me at the table cnn
global affairs analyst and former state department negotiator aaron david miller and senior diplomatic correspondent michelle kosinski. we've been waiting a long time for this. let's start with what we just heard. to the palestinians, when you say we're going to stop talking about two states, they think an administration they have seen as being putting its thumb on the scale of prime minister netanyahu in the beginning is going further. can they put it any other way? >> i think the plan is designed to reconceive and reform late america's approaches to peace make no, state, no real capital in jerusalem. maybe bits and capital in east jerusalem and maybe even a grown light for israeli annexation of significant parts of the west bank. >> so let's listen to more of this in the sense that while we've been waiting for this plan the trump administration has moved the embassy to jerusalem, essentially settling and giving the american stamp on what used to be a so-called final status issue. let the israelis and palestinians figure out what
jerusalem is. you also had now the administration saying and benjamin netanyahu says he'll name a trump settlement in the golan heights, you know, what you've had it for a long time, why don't you just keep it. here's jarred kushner. >> long term i think it helps because what we need to do is start recognizing truths and when we recognize jerusalem, that is a truth, you know. jerusalem is the capital of israel, and that would be part of any final agreement anyway. same thing with recognizing the golan heights. i don't think there's real any question that the golan when things are resolved that it should be part of israel, and we recognize that, too, and i think that we're in a position now, obviously prime minister netanyahu just won i think a very good election. he'll build hopefully a strong coalition and we'll work with him to see what we can do. >> maybe i'm just nuts, but in most negotiations, okay, so we're going to gift israelis this and that, where was the part about what the plin cans
get? >> this administration is at the point where they feel like the time is right and with arabs on board for the most part to say basically to the palestinians take it or leave it at this point. you've rejected plans where you got more in the past. now you've walked away because you're angry at what the u.s. has done. you know, the administration considers what they have done, you mentioned with the embassy and other points as common sense and just stating facts, so now palestinians, take it or leave, and what you get out of it, according to our diplomatic sources would be money, money to improve their situation. we're hearing it would be to the tune of $30 billion to $40 billion initially, that the u.s. would contribute some but this would be a lot of arab money and that this is not going to be the detailed peace plan that many might expect, that this is going to be very economic-centered, that the political things and boundaries, that's going to be left open-ended and open to negotiations. what the israelis tell us is that they expect to make some
concessions, but it's not exactly clear what those would be. they would expect that to be something along the lines of settlements, but, again, a lot of this remains to be seen. >> back when you were doing this a long time ago. >> very long time ago. >> it's always been the case that the other big arab nations sometimes use the palestinians in politics, you know. you can't do that. you can't abandon the palestinian people and roll their eyes and don't have a lot of faith, but in this environment where you're saying israel gets jerusalem. israel gets the golan. israel gets to keep the settlements in the west bank, is the rest of the arab world willing to say to the palestinians too bad, you get some economic apparatus but you're not a viable state. you're not going to get a ton of land out of deal here, take it or leave it. >> i think the punitive king of saudi arabia mohammed bin salman, if not for his father, king salman might be inclined to go a long way to endorsing this point. >> nobody wants to alienate donald trump. the first time i met mr. kushner
i said i wish my father-in-law had as much confidence in me as your father-in-law has in you because he's given you mission impossible. this process was near death long before the trump administration got ahold of it. the question is are they going to make it worse, and are they going to make american credibility in tatters, and i think the answer is there's a distinct possibility that they will fail and fail big time. >> right, but if they fail at this, that could still be a win for the trump administration because they could then say, well, the palestinians are not a negotiating partner. it's their fault, and then that would allow netanyahu to possibly annex more as a sort of, well, okay. here's what we're going do now and then that just builds the israeli vote for trump in 2020. >> a critical point. everything is seen in the context of 2020. >> you view this all as much more domestic politics. >> i think it's been that way from the beginning, that and the president's determination to be first at many different things,
and he's demonstrated with respect to the israeli/palestinian issue, i think negatively, that in fact he's created some historic but very problematic firsts. >> it would be nice if we finally get the operational document as they call it and we can study the details. maybe there's surprises. thank you both for coming in. could more democratic infighting derail the dream act? balanced nutrition for strength and energy! whoo-hoo! great-tasting ensure. with nine grams of protein and twenty-six vitamins and minerals. ensure, for strength and energy. and twenty-six vitamins and minerals. readyaveeno's sheer formulaiant? packed with pure soy evens tone and texture. so skin looks like this. and you feel like this. aveeno® positively radiant get skin happy™
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the dream act true the house may be derailed once again by another battle between progressive and moderate democrats. the struggle is over whether to offer citizenship to undocumented immigrants with criminal records which politico has reports has democrats scrambling to design language that will not further divide the caucus. there's always issues when is it comes to immigration, that's an understatement, but cliburn says he'll get through it. how, heather caygle? >> that's a big issue. the democrats had a committee meeting to talk about the markup and they said we don't even have the votes to get it out of committee much less to the floor and everything is on hold while they try to work out this language. you know, the issue is republicans, and they most certainly will in committee and on the floor, bring up very thorny amendments that make it very hard for moderates to vote
against and they are trying to guard against then,. >> the house democrats know they are going to pass something that they don't have a prayer in the senate. they want to get on the record and say be in the house and senate races say look at the contrast but another issue on which nancy pelosi has a bigger flock, call john boehner, john call pal ryan, that can be difficult. >> and she learned the last time she was speaker. they pushed through okker a and also pushed through cap and trade legislation that was not helpful to some of her moderate members. she has to be concerned about these issues that she's going to bring to the floor, if she's interested to bringing to the floor that could expose these members to difficult votes, hurt them, moderate members in the key race, fine they have no chance of becoming law which is why she's pushing back of the issue of bringing the new green deal, medicare for all potentially because of those exact divisions. >> who are the forces pushing that undocumented immigrants with criminal records, is there a debate about what kind of criminal record, traffic
offenses, nonviolent drug offenses? >> right now it's misdemeanors. three misdemeanors and you're disqualified from speaking the path to citizenship but some democrats have looked at this that said there's misdemeanorses like dui that look really bad depending on how the republicans word these amendments. maybe we should narrow this down but the immigration rights groups don't want to touch the bill at all. they argue it's already too conservative and we need to leave it alone and the progressives have said, you know, if the immigration rights group pull out, we're pulling out, too, and there goes your votes on the floor. >> immigration just such a difficult issue for both sides. >> we used to talk about how it's quicksand for the republicans. it's equally quicksand. >> no question about it, because there's also a debate within the party about whether you do go for a more limited offer or be supportive of a more broader or sweeping measure which opens up a whole host of other issues. an example of why neither party
has been able to solve this for so many years. >> the governing thing. it's complicated. >> majority is hard. >> thanks for joining us on "inside politics." hope to see you on sunday morning. pamela brown is in for brianna keilar, and she starts right now. have a great afternoon. john, thanks. i'm pamela brown in for brianna keilar on this friday. under way right now, the first call since the mueller report. what president trump spoke to vladimir putin today about for over an hour, and more importantly what they didn't discuss. and 1969, astronauts walked the moon, the beatles released "abby road" and it was last time america's unemployment rate hit 3.6%, until now. why the economy is soaring and what this means for the election. plus, it's one. most important issues for democrats in 2020, and today the candidate who is making climate