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israel retaliates with a wave of attacks on targets in gaza after hundreds of rockets are unleashed by militants. north korea conducts a new round of weapons tests but president trump doesn't seem worried touting his relationship with kim jong-un. also ahead at this hour, the winner is disqualified giving the trophy to the second place finisher. that was a surprise to a lot of people. we'll dig down into that one. welcome to our viewers in the northwest. i'm natalie allen.
>> i'm george howell. welcome to cnn world headquarters. "newsroom" starts now. 4:00 a.m. on the u.s. east coast. tensions are playing out on two fronts. between north korea and south korea. the u.s. scrambling to calm tensions that are playing out in the middle east. let's first talk about the situation in north korea. new weapons test has put relations in jeopardy. south cokorea is urging north korea to put down the weapons. >> there's also been a massive flare-up of violence between israel and gaza militants. they've been trading fire with deaths reported on both sides. the white house says the president's son-in-law is working on a peace plan but many fear the jared kushner approach
will not be enough. >> let's start in israel. our oren lieberman is on the story. we know that one man has died in the most recent rocket attacks by gaza militants. what is behind the latest attacks? >> reporter: george and natalie, we've been standing along the israel/gaza border. at any point if you stood here for 10 or 15 minutes, you would see a barrage of rocket fire or an israeli airstrike. this now, the past hour or so, hour and a half, is the first time in the last 24 hours i will stand here and say there appears to be a lull in the fighting. is this a lull because there's about to be a restoration of a cease-fire or is this a break in hostilities and we'll see more rocket fire and airstrikes. that answer is coming. the israeli military says more than 130 rockets have been fired. short range rockets and more
powerful rockets. they have targeted some of the major cities in israel. in that rocket fire a 50-year-old man was killed north of gaza. it is important to note that back in november during another round of firing a palestinian man was killed. they have hit more than 200 targets of what they say are hamas and islamic military targets. six people have been killed including a 1-year-old baby girl and her pregnant mother. israel denies it was behind the attack that killed those two saying instead that it was hamas malfunction of one of their missiles that killed the baby girl and their mother. to this point we'll see what happens here. we have seen the fighting and it has escalated from smaller targets to more powerful rockets
from gaza as well as larger targets struck from israel. the israeli military saying they have attacked the houses of militants. that, too, an escalation of operations on israel's side. it was a very volatile day across the border on saturday. see if that continues today or if egyptian and u.s. efforts are successful. >> is there any sense of the time line? obviously things are volatile now but a sense of how long it could take before things de-escalate for either side to stand down? >> reporter: normally we've seen these rounds of fighting de-escalate in about 24 or 48 hours. that's been the norm over the past year when we've seen these sharp escalations. it is important to note that over the past few weeks there has been relative calm before israel and gaza. this escalation started on friday when israel says a sniper
from inside gaza wounded two israeli soldiers. an israeli response was a strike that hit a gaza post. we noe gipt aknow egypt is tryi on the cease-fire. >> oren leieberman, thank you. the situation playing out in north korea. months after the failed summit between its leader and kim jong-un is back to firing weapons. state media called this a strike drill, a drill personally overseen by the north korean leader himself. they say long range rocket launches were tested on saturday along with tactical guided weapons. south korean officials are youb pl downplay that go part. they say they were short range
and crashing into the sea. north korea is treating this as a victory. here's the country's so called pink lady announcing the test on state tv. >> translator: kim jong-un, chairman of the worker's party of korea guided the strike drill in the forefront area and on the eastern front which took place in the east sea of korea. watching the drill together with him were kadris of the central committee of the worker's party of korea. >> the u.s. president is apparently trying to calm fears on twitter while boasting about his diplomatic skills. >> this as u.s. national security officials meet to figure out what to do about the north. mr. trump says he has faith in north korea's leader. our boris sanchez has this report. >> reporter: a stunning response from the white house especially when you consider the way that president trump had previously
responded to provocations from north korea. a little rocket man or fire and fu fury, the likes of which the world had never seen. this is a much more subdued response from the white house. part of it is that the president wants to maintain a good personal working relationship with kim jong-un. he believes that by charming him personally with the promise of economic prosperity for north korea he can sway kim to abandon this generations long quest to arm north korea with nuclear weapons. some experts believe that is unlikely. nevertheless, it's what the president is trying to do on twitter making a personal appeal
to kim jong-un trump writing this, quote, anything in this very interesting world is possible, but i believe kim jong-un fully realizes the great economic potential in north korea and will do nothing to interfere or end it. he also knows that i am with him and does not want to break his promise to me. deal will happen. despite aggressive steps from
kim jong-un, president trump remaining optimistic that he could strike a deal to denuclearize north korea. we should pay attention to that portion of the tweet where president trump says kim jong-un knows that he is with him. it will be curious to see how some of the united states allies in that region, squoo pan and south korea respond to that, and also the parents of otto warmbier, the american who died after having been held in captivity in north korea for some time. his parents have been very critical of president trump's personal relationship with kim jong-un. boris sanchez, cnn, the white house. let's talk about it with andrew stevens. let's talk about reaction in a moment. first, let's talk about the launches themselves. what were they and what message does north korea seem to be sending with this? >> reporter: well, the message seems to be quite clear, natalie, that north korea is
frustrated and unhappy that it is not making any head way at all on negotiations with the u.s. about a denuclearized zone in the korean peninsula mainly because north korea wants sanctions relief. it needs sanctions relief to get the economy back on its -- some sort of standing by itself but it's not just seeing any of that at the moment. kim jong-un had gone to the second summit with donald trump in had a my in february expecting to see the u.s. move on sanctions in some type of form. donald trump walked away. nothing was delivered there. and we've seen this slow but steady buildup of frustration, if you like, from north korea. they've been sharply critical of what was seen as a very low level military drill between the u.s. and south korea. they've been accusing the u.s. of acting in bad faith on that hanoi summit. very careful not to mention donald trump by name though. the two leaders professing, as
we've heard, to have a close relationship. it is clear this is a signal to the u.s. that north korea's patience is running out, natalie. we know that the north has given the u.s. a deadline, which is the end of the year to come back with a deal to see some sort of sanctions relief for north korea. >> so let's talk more about the region's response. we know south korea and japan closely watching whatever kim jong-un does. we saw that tweet from president trump,' rosie tweet about saying kim knows he's with him, meaning the president stands with kim, and has faith in the north korean leader. what do people in the region think about the president's overtures? are they constructive? >> it was extraordinary if you put it in context with tweets not that long ago from trump talking about north korean leader, but there has been a
muted response and certainly no direct response to that tweet from donald trump. probably the strongest we've heard has come from the south koreans, which is not surprisingly, natalie. voicing serious concerns that the north koreans were violating the treaty that the two koreas were working towards to de-escalate tensions on the korean peninsula. the japanese have been pretty quiet about it. that is in part due to the fact that the japanese and south korean foreign ministers did have calls. there's a lot of diplomatic activity on the telephone between the u.s. secretary of state and mike pompeo, south korea and japan, which they agree to have a prudent response to the north koreans. and another point worth mentioning here, natalie, is that north korea imposed a self-imposed moratorium on missile testing and nuclear testing back last year, but that was for long-range missile
testing, intercontinental ballistic missiles, missiles capable of hitting the u.s. what we have seen in tfrom the latest launch is guided missiles. they were short range, up to 200 miles. they haven't seen the moratorium but it is ramping up the tensions, natalie. >> certainly. we appreciate your insights. andrew stevens. thank you, andrew. let's talk about this now with natasha lindsdad. joining us from colchester, england. good to have you, natasha. >> thanks for having me. >> these launches, as we mentioned, do not violate kim jong-un's promise not to test long-range missiles, but it is saying now north korea is saying to washington the ball is in your court. how important is it now for the trump administration to get things moving with the continued
talks and negotiations? >> i think actually in trump's defense, any u.s. leader is in a very difficult spot in dealing with north korea and, in fact, there really hasn't been any u.s. leader that has been able to get much out of the north koreans. they have been difficult to deal with because historically what their strategy has been to push things to the brink, test missiles, really try to provoke almost and get to the point where they can negotiate and they use all of these provocations as leverage to get to the negotiating table. the issue is for trump to negotiate with the north koreans, they will have to alleviate some of the sanctions and they may have to do that before the north koreans are willing to do anything regarding dampening or decreasing their nuclear activity and that is really, really risky to do. i think u.s. policy makers would not advise the u.s. to give in
too much to the north koreans because they have had a history on reneging on agreements going back to the 2006 party talks where they agreed certain activity and then they violated it. in this particular instance trump is in a really, really difficult situation. he may want to push forward and get to the negotiating table again but it's really only china that has most of the leverage in trying to get the north koreans to stop this type of activity. >> between the two countries things have clearly stalled for the most part. salt light imagery also suggests nuclear imagery continues in north korea. all of this hinging on the relationship between kim jong-un and president trump with mr. trump saying on twitter kim knows that i am with him and that he does not want to break his promise to him. the question to you, what is the plus/minus in this situation becoming so personal between these two men? >> well, on the plus side this means that the north koreans and
the u.s. have been meeting more than they had in previous administrations and we have to think that engagement of any type might be a good thing because it's better than not engaging at all. not engaging at all hasn't led to much if any change. the issue is if it leads to the u.s. making bad decisions, trusting the north koreans without evidence that they have been willing to actually make some meaningful changes to their nuclear program. now it looks like that there's a big difference between trump's personal relationship with kim and with what the state department wants to do. the state department appears to be much more cautious and able to make an overture but it's really unchartered waters for the u.s. we've never had a u.s. president that had a good or thought they had a good working relationship with the north korean leader. it's possible that it could lead
to the advantage of more negotiations, but the issue is the u.s. doesn't have that much leverage over north korea. there is no trade that takes place and in comparison, countries like russia and china have a little bit more leverage that they may be able to use to get the north koreans to stop escalating things. >> you've mentioned russia and china goes to my third question for you. this is happening a month after he met with russian president vladimir putin and he met with chinese president xi jinping. is it conceivable to believe that north korea may be more embolden to push for what it wants, the lifting of u.s. sanctions, given the support of the neighbors? >> what it's trying to do with its relationship with rush sharks it's had a close relationship with chinese, is to show the u.s. there are other players involved, there are other main actors it can have a
relationship with. the summit with russia, the north is hoping the russians can push for alleviating the sanctions. they're hoping they can get more food aid and they're hoping they can get a little bit more investment, a little bit more trade. they continue to have at least 1,000 people come in on waivers. for the north, these relationships with rich shah and china become more and more and more important. whether it's emboldened in them, we don't know. we do know the north korean regime has been more embolden since kim jong-un took over. in terms of his over all personality, he's much more of a risk taker than the dynasty had been in the past. i think we're going to continue to see him pushing the envelope until he gets some sanctions relief. >> natasha lindstad giving us
some perspective this day. thank you. >> thanks for having me. coming up here, it is a once in a lifetime opportunity. students are getting a shot at making an addition to one of the world's most iconic landmarks. we'll explain that ahead. also -- >> the moment of impact i went forward. had my seat belt on. i hit my head on top of the roof. >> hear from a man who endured friday's plane accident in florida. we'll have his story as well as the latest on the crash investigation. you're watching "newsroom."
in the u.s. state of florida investigators are looking into the flight data recorder of a plane that crash landed in jacksonville. >> they're trying to figure out what caused this boeing 737 to skid off the runway and right into a river. it was carrying 143 people from the u.s. military base in guantanamo bay, cuba. the good news, everyone on board survived. for more about the crash, here's cnn's rosa flores in florida. >> reporter: the ntsb is on scene here in jacksonville, florida, and they say that their preliminary assessment indicates
that this flight coming in from guantanamo bay overran the runway, impacted the low level sea wall and ended up in the shallow waters of the st. john's river. the ntsb is looking at multiple factors, first of all, the aircraft. the flight data recorder has been recovered. the cockpit voice recorder has not been recovered because it's submerged under water and it's still unclear when that aircraft will be removed from the waters of the st. john's river. those two pieces are key in telling what happened. they will be looking at some human factors. they'll be investigating the crew and pilots, what were they doing in the past 72 hours and also what were they doing at the time and the environment. we do know there were reports of thunderstorms and lightning n. about two weeks the ntsb is due to release a preliminary report and we should know more at that point in time. the good news here is that the
140 something passengers are safe. the bad news is that the authorities are not saying the pets on board have perished. they are saying none of the crates or kennels are above water. rosa flores, cnn, jacksonville, florida. we are hearing from the passengers who survived that plane crash. >> that's right. one florida man says that he was in an exit row seat when the plane slid into the river. he spoke with cnn affiliate wsvn in miami about how he got out of that plane. listen. >> so at the moment of impact i went forward, i had my seat belt on, i hit my head on top of the roof. i kind of landed. i just remember feeling water. i was the first one out. i was on the wing. once i noticed i was on the wing and i noticed it was only water. i'm not a big swimmer, i got even more -- a little shaken up. >> he also says that he went
back into the plane and helped a woman put on her life jacket before assisting a man who had been injured. my goodness. we want to turn now to a massive explosion that rocked a town in illinois friday night killing two people and leaving three others injured. two people are still missing. the blast occurred 40 miles north of chicago at a plant that manufactures silicone chemicals. the explosion affected five other nearby buildings. damage estimated at more than $1 million. in france you'll remember the fire at the beautiful notre dame cathedral. it was terrible to see. when france rebuilds that cathedral, it won't look the same. >> it is attracting hopeful architects from around the world, including a group of american students. here's ben we he wedeman in par
>> pencil on paper. it's very old school, yet perhaps it's the best way to capture this scorched majesty of paris's 800-year-old notre dame cathedral. the french prime minister announced an international competition to redesign the roof and 300 foot spire the flas destroyed. the task the government flush with around $1 billion in donations hopes to finish in five years. architecture students from notre dame, the u.s. university here in indiana are here to study the mid east marvell and plan to join the competition. meghan scott hasn't come up with an idea yet but he's thinking -- >> gothic. it could be bigger. it could be gilded. it could be stone, it could be marble but i think something that respects what's still there.
>> reporter: a balance of what's old and new is what classmate jessica most says from san di o diego, california. >> i think it's important to stay relevant to what historically was there as well as keeping it modern. >> reporter: keeping it modern, however, has its limits. already some designers have posted their ideas online. some are interesting. notre dame architecture student mary ripsinski from boston, massachusetts, puts it this way. >> they're kind of horrifying. >> reporter: paris based architects is confident sober heads will prevail that master piece like notre dame which took 100 years to be built won't be rebuilt in a rush. >> it's not a train station. it's a special place and i believe we should provide this
special place all the means neglects to express himself. the outlines of genius have always been there. it will take a minute to fill in what the fire erased. >> so many different ideas about how that cathedral can look. >> absolutely. >> venezuela's opposition once again tries to win military support but those efforts are met with resistance and that right there is a show of that resistance. we'll explain here in a moment. getting dressed can be rough on sensitive skin. downy free & gentle has no perfumes, no dyes
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all right. we're already 30 minutes in. how did that happen? welcome back to our viewers in the u.s. and around the world. this is cnn "newsroom." i'm natalie allen. >> i'm george howell with the headlines. north korea says its leader kim jong-un oversaw a new round of weapons drills that took place on saturday. state media reports long range multiple rocket launchers were tested. south korean officials say the north fired several short range projectiles from the eastern coast. a hospital in israel reports an israeli man has been killed by a rocket attack. israel's military says more than 400 rockets have been fired from gaza in the most recent hostility. in retaliation israeli airstrikes hit hundreds of targets in gaza. palestinian authorities say at least four people died. remember that plane that slid off the runway in jacksonville, florida?
well, investigators have recovered the flight data recorder as it crash landed on friday night. the plane slid into a river and as it arrived from the u. 16789 military base in guantanamo bay, cuba, luckily all passengers were able to get off the plane. they survived. trying to convince the military to defect from president nicolas maduro. >> juanguaido urged them to switch sides but there was some resistance as you can see right here. one service members burned the offer letter. here's how one protester reacted. >> translator: we are not at war. we are simply venezuelans are here in rebellion.
we have a right. >> in the meantime president maduro spent part of the day at a military training base. he was rallying with his military there getting support from cadets who are loyal. let's start right there with that video and talking with our guest, kevin millbrook who is a professor at university college in london. thank you for giving us your time. we just saw that video of maduro rousing his troops. somehow he holds on. there have been defect shuns but largely the military continues to stand with him. why is that? >> well, there are many possible reasons. one of them right now is the role that the united states is playing in how it's conducting itself tactically. when the trump administration talks about all options being on the table and lindsey graham, senator from south carolina talks about the request of the u.s. air craft carrier off the
coast of venezuela, it heightens the venezuelan nationalism. i can't imagine there's anyone that wears the uniform who doesn't react negatively to the threat of the u.s. invasion or use of armed force in some way. that at least in the short term bolsters them. it runs the risk of undercutting guaido. he looks like a u.s. puppet. there's a larger number who back him worldwide but this is increasingly becoming a u.s. show and that makes it much more problematic for him to actually come across as an autonomous leader of a proposed democratic transition. >> right. with that challenge, what else can guaido do at this point? is he running out of options? >> well, he and his u.s. allies
have come up with new and different options at different times. yes, the defeat of this attempted military overthrow last tuesday has at least in the short term hurt the opposition. it's very hard for him to persuade his people to come onto the streets in large numbers successively if there's no prospect that anything is going to change in the short term. >> what, if anything, else can the u.s. do not to look like it is the only player here in the region and anything short of, say, military intrusion and what does russia being in the mix do to the equation? >> well, that complicates things. there are hundreds of russian
troops in venezuela. i suppose they would act as a trip wire against any u.s. use of military force in the worst case scenario. it simply gives russia a role to play in the western hemisphere that it had not previously had in some 30 years. that, of course, makes president putin look better. the united states has done what it can in terms of economic sanctions now. the hope is it will produce a result because increasingly the sanctions do worsen the humanitarian crisis, do hurt average venezuelans. again, these are tactics that has the u.s. fingerprint all over them. so it really plays into the argument that hugo chavez, now nicolas maduro have always made that all of vensezuela's probles have been because of the u.s. military. now it rings true and that does
not ease tensions. >> do you see this as in a stall? >> it is temporarily stalled. i would -- what i would love to see is for lattin american nations to be given a much more prominent role in trying to negotiate a settlement, some kind of a transition here. the longer the stagnation persists, the greater the risk of real social violence accompanying any transition. everyone is focused on the military. that is the most important actor right now. there are anywhere from up to 200,000 armed militia members in venezuela. these are people very committed to the chavez and maduro project. they will not stand by. even if the top military agrees, they will not stand by and allow guaido and others to come to power. the longer this stagnation or
paralysis, the worse the odds are not good for anyone. >> right. it's so unfortunate. kevin middlebrook joining us from london. thank you. >> thank you. a new chapter unfolds in thailand's long and colorful history. it is the first coronation of the key in nearly 70 years. we'll go live to bangkok to explain what is happening right now. also, you probably heard about it. the kentucky derby never had a finish like this. the horse that won, well, he didn't win. more about that coming up. with a glow around them, so people watching will be like, "wow, maybe i'll glow too if i book direct at choicehotels.com". who glows? just say, badda book. badda boom. book now at choicehotels.com
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>> the pope will visit a refugee camp and meet with orthodox leaders. he will visit the birth place of mother teresa. we turn to thailand. a three decor row nation of the king is approaching one of its most important events. a grandpa raid through the streets outside of the royal palace. >> it will be the moment when the public gets to see the king in person for the first time as he visits several important buddhist temples. >> on saturday after becoming thailand's sovereign ruler, the king received the sacred objects of his office. that included a heavy crown of gold and diamonds. >> the actual moment of his coronation was the presentation of this nine tiered silk umbrella that symbolizes the physical and spiritual protection he brings to his people. our will ripley has been following it all. we have seen so many of these
intricate rituals played out. tell us now the new king is being celebrated throughout bangkok. >> reporter: hi there, george and natalie. yeah, what we are expecting to see through the streets over the next mosh than four hours is the kind of opulent celebration in a monarchy that is found anywhere in the united states. this is alive and well in thailand. the king will be carried through the streets by a group of soldiers. he will be -- his throne will be lifted up by a group of men and he will be carried through the streets. the temperatures are upwards of 36 degrees or 100 degrees fahrenheit. so it's hot and yet people are out here. the crowds are definitely bigger than what we saw yesterday. we continue to stand at the southwest corner of the palace. it was quite sparse. a lot of people might have been watching this on the life
stream. we don't have the numbers of how many people were watching the broadcast on the internet. we see lots of people, everybody who passed through the extensive security checkpoint is wearing the aus pitch shus checkpoint. that is the color of the monarchy. we did hear yesterday the first order from the new king. it was short and it was sweet and we'll play it for you now. >> translator: i shall continue, preserve and build upon the royal legacy and shall rein with rit ch riotousness for the benefit of the people forever. >> reporter: this kind of ceremony is something the new king has relied upon in the past 200 years since the death in 2016. he has not been as hands on on the ground in thailand. he spends a lot of his time in munich, germany, where he has a residence and lives and has
lived for the most of the time in a number of years. he is here now. he does exert his influence. he's not just a figure head but a main figure. in fact, just days from now thailand will learn the results of an election that was held back in march. it's a very divisive election. it will be up to the kang to try to maintain stability and unity. ceremonies like this, george and natalie, they project the legitimacy of this. that's why they're spending $30 million to celebrate the new king's coronation. >> the people have had many decades to know his father so these rituals important, as you say, for people to get a sense of who he is. will ripley, live for us in bangk bangkok. thank you. coming up here, america's most famous horse race finishing
you are looking there at the winner of this year's kentucky derby. country house, but it was how he won that has shocked horse racing world. >> right. the famous race ended in dramatic saturday after the winning horse maximum security was disqualified for committing a foul on the track. second place finisher, country house, was then declared the winner. cnn's patrick snell explains more about it. >> reporter: it is without question one of the biggest occasions on the u.s. sporting calendar. the 145th running of the kentucky derby on saturday. it dates back to 1875. this year's version would not only prove to be highly controversial in its outcome but truly historic as well. here's what happened amid all the soggy conditions at churchill downs. it appeared as though one of the pre-race favorites, maximum security, had won this, the first leg of america's famed
triple crown series. the jockey who thought he won already declaring his apparent victory a dream but then became the real controversy that would show country house who crossed in second place eventually being declared the winner after maximum security was disqualified. officials took 20 minutes to investigate the incident ruling maximum security committed a violation by moving out of his lane and cutting off another horse meaning heart break and joy for the 65-1 long shot country house. the second time a winner has been disqualified in this famous old race. the first time it's actually happened due to a foul claim during the race itself. patrick snell, cnn, atlanta. >> all right. let's talk about it with horse racing journalist ray pauly joining us. thanks so much. we know what happened with maximum security. i look and look. i can't see it just because i'm
not a professional horse race follow lower, but this illegal movement, how did it happen? as i understand it wasn't a tactical move by the jockey. it was, what, an accident by the horse, a misstep? >> reporter: well, the horse can't talk to us so we have to rely on the jockeys. with about a little more than 1/4 of a mile left in the mile and a quarter race maximum security shifted off the rail and he cut off several horses. the worse horse cut off is war of will who actually his front legs came into contact with the rear legs of maximum security. >> all right. so as a result, a disqualification happened. that hasn't happened since 1968. kind of a buzz kill to end a storied race with a disqualification. the stewards made the call. >> first of all, the 1968 disqualification didn't happen as a result of anything that happened during the race.
it was actually a post-race drug test. the horse that run the race was disqualified days and weeks later. this was different. there have only been a handful of inquiries or foul claims in the 145-year history of the derby. the most famous was the 1933 fighting finish where two jockeys were actually fighting near the end of the race. this was the first time. in kentucky the rules state that if a horse is interfered with and it cost him a better placing, not the win but a better placing, the stewards may disqualify the horse that caused the interference and if they follow the letter of the rules, they made the right call. >> poor maximum security, he doesn't know what he did. steward, one rider put it this way. stewards disqualified a horse that gave two also rans that gave another horse a victory that never was going to win on his own.
>> this will be debated and debated. i want to talk to you about the bigger issue here. this comes at a time when the horse racing industry is under scrutiny. 23 horses died at santa anita, california, over the winter. steps were taken, the banning of whips on horses there. in 2012 "the new york times" investigation shows 24 horses died each week at racetracks across the u.s. is there regulations in the industry? does there need to be more to protect these horses? what's wrong with horse racing? >> reporter: well, there are regulations. every state has its own set of regulations and that's really part of the problem. there is no national oversight and there currently are a couple of -- there's one bill in the house of representatives, the horse racing integrity act that was introduced by a kentucky and new york congressman, that would provide national oversight medication, which is a critical issue for horse racing. so there is over sight.
there is drug testing. there is some restrictions on the use of the riding crop or the whip but in my opinion, not enough. >> i want to end with this. one sports blogger wrote this, if i love animals, can i love horse racing? how would you answer that? >> reporter: horses that are in racing are pampered and loved and, you know, the people that are around the horses could not care -- you know, they love the horses they work with. it's a -- you know, it's a dangerous game. you saw what happened out there today. that could have caused an accident when the jockey -- when the horse shifted off the rail and almost collided with another horse. with 18 horses behind them. can you imagine what would happen if those two horses had gone down in the race? it would have been just a terrible tragedy. so it's a dangerous game, there's no question about that, but the industry has to do all it can to make it as safe as possible for the horses and for
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