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to save 30% on all the medications we carry. so go directly to petmeds.com now. this is "cnn tonight" i'm don lemon. top house democrats saying tonight this nation is in the middle of a constitutional crisis. in the house judiciary chairman says it's because president trump is disobeying the law refusing to turn over the information that congress is
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requesting. information it has a constitutional right to ask for and it's over sight role. so is it the president of the united states trying to go democrats into impeaching him? house speaker nancy pelosi. >> that vote came after president trump asserted executive privilege over the report and the under lying evidence.
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a move he made at barr's request. the latest example of the trump administration stone walling congress at every turn. tonight we'll look at the big picture. what's happening and what it means for the country in the days and months to come. a lot to answer. a lot to get to. let's bring in frank bruni. a trump former trump transition official. now calling for impeachment. good evening. thank you so much. mueller report. all the trump administrations actions vournding it. forcing democrats hands. on impeachment. >> it's not forcing them. they have discretion. every day we're getting closer to it. and very close to it. everything nancy pelosi said was dead on true. i find myself worning why he isn't running for president. i almost does seem to use the words like trump administration the president is trying to impeach him.
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he doesn't care about how devicive that would be. he would be fine to that. that's the problem democrats have. they're saying on principal we must impeach the president. because he's a disgrace to the office and doesn't have america first. if the principle is must not get a second term and tdamaging the country and impeachment might help him stay in office another term. >> listen. i hate to pat myself on the back. i will. i said this since early on. it appears that this is i don't know if you were on the show the ball is rolling. towards impeachment. that the democrats would have no other choice. rule of law or then they too may welcome like they're allowing president to run out over them
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and the constitution. i spoke with nadler tonight saying we're in the constitutional crisis. impeachment. impeachment not the answer right now. listen to this. >> he will first seek to enforce subpoenas in court to get the information necessary. one of the things that is a predicate for impeachment is that you have to have the support of american people. and to do that the american people have to have the facts. to make a judgment in hiding the facts. first job is to get out the facts. the american people should know what's going on. what they have done. what crimes if any have been committed and the story is. >> here's a question. you weigh in. how can democrats like nadler say this is a constitutional crisis. but not use a tool they have to stop the crisis. >> nadler's plan from the beginning has been to have a
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full airing of mueller's the results of the investigation before the judiciary committee. bring in witnesses who with faces and video and frankly dramatize the findings of the mueller report. which were the way the mueller report was presented to the american was extremely confusing. because of the way barr spun it. and had access to the information. spun it in a highly preferential way to the president. and the second way. nadler's job trying to do is present it in a way that can move public opinion. he's looking at the same polls and public opinion hasn't really moved since the mueller report came out. there's not bipartisan support for impeachment. his case has been if you make a public argument, maybe that will change. don't call for impeachment right
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away. go out and make the argument. hold the hearings. now of course he's -- throwing sand in the gears of the committee. and thus his frustration. i don't think he's thwarted to the point the judiciary committee can't do its job and lay oit the full breath of the case against trump that has been presented in the mueller report. i'm not i don't totally agree with you that we're on the road to impeachment. but nancy pelosi comments were very significant. she's bearish on impeachment and deliberate when she speaks and there was a reason she said that. >> yeah. i think the momentum is heading that way. whether it happens or not. i feel like it's headed that way. i don't know if you saw jw bruce on earlier. he is a constitutional law
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professor. scholar. and he says that he this is a moment of truth for the supreme court that the folks on the court now all of them are originalists and thinks this is going to it will play out in the court. but if their reasoning is to buy time he thinks it will go fast. >> i think a lot of people are talking about the fast and furious confrontation between the congress and the obama department of justice. as the most recent analog to the type of stand off. i don't think it is. that took two or three years. some is still ongoing. the supreme court are more likely to hear expedited. rapidly hearings on these kind of issues. given the constitutional moment that we're in. don't forget i think this is a lot like the nixon era. that took a long time. it was very slow and very boring
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for most of the lead up to the dramatic events that we have seen in the oliver stone movies. it takes time. the momentum is moving in that direction. do they impeach barr? most impeachments have been judges and interior officers. the speaker and nadler hasn't been discussed enough. >> elizabeth warren had strong comments on impeachment yesterday. >> this is not about politics. this is about the constitution of the united states of america. we took an oath. not to try to protect donald trump. we took an oath to protect the and serve the constitution of the united states of america. and the way we do that is it we begin impeachment proceedings. now. against this president. >> okay. so, frank. same question. using her sound bite there.
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most democrats in congress the folks running against her, in 2020. think this is a polarizing and risky play. are they putting politics before their oath of office? you said which is higher priority. >> let's talk about this. if they all believe -- that he's a danger to the country and disgrace to the presidency. and the most important thing is make sure he's out of office as soon as possible. impeachment won't lead to a conviction and outing right away. it might allow him to portray himself as a political martyr. or look to the public like overzealousness. and his advantage giving him a second term. what have the ideals served? yes there was the constitution and need to protect it. there's a need to do what's best for the country going forward. impeachment is political. if the country isn't there if the people are not behind it, if
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they are divided. i don't think the sort of strict constitution is living in not the real world. in which decisions should be made. >> just a quick from both of you. yes or no. do you think nancy pelosi says president is goad democrats into impeach him. do you think he is? >> nobody knows what will happen. if impeachment hearings start. >> do you think he's trying to goad democrats? >> not really. i rarely think he has master plan when he spouts out. that's the effect though. >> do you think if they impeach him that it will help him politically? >> boy, i don't think so. i don't think impeaching a president helps you politically. people point to clinton. he came out ahead in the midterms. ask clinton if he thinks it
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helped him politically. no. it will not help him. >> all right. bill clinton was better at come backs than this president. he has been low. i don't think it helps. >> appreciate it. thank you so much. congresswoman sheila jackson lee says president trump is taking a wrecking ball to the constitution. i'll ask her whether she thinking impeachment is the answer. next. in a clinical study, 4 out of 5 users felt better joint comfort. move free ultra. movement keeps us connected. [♪]
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the house judiciary committee voting today to hold attorney general barr in contempt of congress for defying a subpoena to turn over the unredact mueller report and under lying evidence. after president trump asserted executive privilege over theile mueller report at barr's request. here to discuss. democratic congresswoman of texas. she sits on the judiciary
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committee. thank you very much. busy time. we preert you coming in. we appreciate you coming in. you voted to hold him in contempt. a serious move. now what? what happens next. >> it is a very serious move. the country is in a very serious state of disarray. and the rule of law is in jeopardy. and i indicated earlier today, my fear is that the president is at the same timing to take a wrecking ball to the constitution. for that reason, not for any targeting reason or dislike for anyone in the president's administration or the president. we thought it was imperative to follow up on a contempt citation. civil citation. which will go to the house of representatives and voted on by the house. approved by the house and then litigated in the federal court by the council. this move is imperative because
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the president in the early morning hours issued a directive that caused the department of justice to break down in negotiations we were in. and then it letter issued by the attorney general to the president to encourage him to issue a blanket executive privilege. ha means for every single request that the congress would ask for, this president now for the first time in the history of the united states would choose to block every request we make. that is not acceptable. >> i'll talk about that blanket executive privilege. this is what the department of justice is saying. that by holding this vote, that you have terminated negotiations for the unredacted mueller report. have you under mined your own effort to get that information? >> no. that letter was probably written for public narrative again that
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is incorrectly directed. we have been negotiating for weeks. we started before the mueller report came out. and then over the last couple days we have been responding to the justice department with counter offers. something that's constitutional required. called an accommodation. the negotiations actually broke down last night. and this letter was sent for just for the public expression that the justice department was innocent in all of this. they stopped the negotiation. we we were willing to continue and the requests were simple. let the report be seen by the judiciary committee and intelligence committee. go into court to disearn what of the grand jury materials we can see. and then prioritize the documents we want to look at. simple opportunity for congress to do its job. the justice department rejected
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that in the middle of negotiations and orchestrated two letters this morning. the may 8 letter that indicated that we had terminated or oir actions would terminate the negotiations. they terminated negotiations. we tried to get attorney general barr to fill his responsible and provide us with documents may 1. >> you're speaking about it now. you're out raged i can tell. you say the president is trying to take a wrecking ball to the constitution. nadler says we're in a crisis and says impeachment may not be the answer. why not? >> what the answer is for us to get the truth and for it to be presented to the american people. i'd like to have director mueller come to the committee and have the hearing and testimony be presented in prime time. for the american people to hear his answers. we have no narrative that we want to give other than the truth. the question of impeachment is one where you have all of your
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facts. all of your witnesses. impeachment is never too late. we're not running from it and rushing towards it. so the question is getting the witnesses hearing the testimony. and presenting the truth to the american people. >> we will be watching. and america is wondering now what. what news can break tomorrow or five minutes. thank you for your time. >> democracy is strong. >> the "new york times" bomb shell reporting to the president taxes shows he lied. a lot. about his finances. i'll talk to two people who have an interesting perspective on this. from the apprentice. next. se a little romance... even your feet.. the (new) amopé pedi perfect with diamond crystals gives you smooth results in just seconds that you'll fall in love with instantly. available at walmart in the foot care aisle. [spanish recording] so again, using "para", you're talking about something that is for someone.
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the winner of season four and the author of black faces in white spaces. ten game changing strategies to achieve success and greatness. good to have you on. thank you so much. let's get down to it. welcome. first of all, were you surprised to hear that the president trump is not exactly the huge self-made success portrayed himself to be? >> i didn't go for the con back then and i'm not now. i have a news flash for america. if you don't know that trump is a con man by now, that's because you're the mark. if you think about that, think about what we have been going through over all this time back when i was on the apprentice. i knew the masters of the university call him a joke. there was smoke there. we didn't know where the fire was. right now we're figuring out there was a fire. it doesn't surprise me the people saying he has a gold plated sink or jet. are figuring out all of that was
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a farce. >> he's -- i have heard people say he's a poor person idea of what a rich person is. so i don't know if that's true. that's what they say. the profile from last december quotes someone on the apprentice. most of us knew he was a fake. he had just gone through i don't know how many bankruptcies. but we made him out to be the most important person in the world. does this sound right about right to you? did people know trumps wealth was inflated? >> i think more and more is coming out. as more investigation into his business dealings are coming out. the more i've learned even from what i didn't know back then. it looks like a shifting ponz scheme. in the 80s this fake corporate raiders. buy shares before, sell shares after. never buy the company.
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90s he's borrowing money to buy casinos. those are gone. 2000s. he's now putting money into real estate deals. where people aren't getting their money. trump ocean resort. baja, mexico. $23 million. 250 people never got money. he's launching ventures that are all gone. trump steaks. mortgage. trump institute. trump university. trump magazine. where are the companies? gone. >> you heard of the defenders. he's a rich man. he's trying to build the business. he's very rich. he'll lose a lot of money. he admitted he lost billions. what's new? >> the goal of the business is make money. to take loss after loss after loss over a decade. where's the success of business in the story? to defend him line he's a genius. i get tax laws are geared
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towards him. $413 million from your dad was not to lose 1 billion over ten years. the goal was to make money. we get this. >> let me play something. this is a clip from april 6, 1991. about how donald trump was the darling of the 80s and 90s the banks were onto the lies and closing in. >> would you borrow as much as trump did nearly $2 billion? and the economy goes into a tail spin and you can't pay the interest on your loan. the bankers move in. and they have. here's what's in the works. donald's $100 million yacht goes to the boston trust company. his interest in the hotel goes to bankers trust. his interest in department store goes to city core. his trump shuttle goes to northwest airlines.
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what donald trump gets is a chance to start over. he probably won't have to declare bankruptcy. >> interesting. he created the whole new persona from his failure under the scrutiny of the presidency. is this house of cards falling again? >> yeah. i agree. there's a may doff feeling to what he has done. now that we're being unmasked and the big reveal is happening what you have to think about is if trump was untouchable by american banks in the golden halo run off and nobody would lend him money where's the financing coming from in the growth? that debt had to come from foreign investors and that's why we need to see the tax returns. that leads him open to russian influence. china influence. saudi. the folks we think he maybe under the thumb of. that's why such a dangerous ploy that people don't understand why
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the urgency is there to make sure we don't have the president being coopted. >> so far nothing illegal has been at least -- confirmed here. people are wondering where the money came from. if there's a possibility of some illegality. you worked for the trump -- going off what he said. you work for the trump company. and close. where was this money coming from? this empire that he had so many losses. do you know where this money was coming from? >> it's a ponzi scheme. borrowing from banks and investors to put his name and money into ventures that fail. he has the privilege of being able to continue to borrow. to lose that money. but that was because his father introduced him to his banking relationships or somehow people never quite caught the scheme that he's not actually making
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the money. that he's claiming to make. the house of card slowly is d n beginning to krunlable. but the investor community never looked at him that closely to stay why are we pitting money behind this guy that's losing money deal after deal. >> interesting. if you don't realize you're being conned you're the mark. fascinating. details on a hero student who died trying to stop a school shooter in colorado. a second student in a week who sacrificed himself to save his peers. while the adults haven't come up with solution to protect kids. neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair's derm-proven retinol works so fast, it takes only one week to reveal younger looking skin. neutrogena® we see two travelers so at a comfort innal with a glow around them, so people watching will be like, "wow, maybe i'll glow too if i book direct at choicehotels.com".
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18 year-old kendrick castillo. he was shot and killed yesterday. when he rushed a shooter inside the stem school. they were in english class watching a movie. the shoot e walked in. pulled out a gun and fired. he lunged at the shooter was gave them enough time to hide and disarm the shooter. now he's a hero. instead of a high school graduate. i want you to listen to his father. recounting the moments he realized he lost his son. >> he wasn't answering. it's like you expect your kid to pick up the phone and tell you leave me alone. i was guilty. i was trying to call him i thought maybe it's the wrong thing. maybe i'm putting his life in jeopardy by having the phone ring. i texted and tried to face time. i was getting nothing. my anxiety and the lump in my
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chest was growing. i couldn't believe it was happening to my son. >> one of the kids told me that like a flash he jumped up. he's a hero. he saved me. out the door and after this person. to tackle him. >> his parents. a hero. a dead child. kendrick not the only one. just last week we talked rilely howl. a hero in another school shooting. at unc charlotte. he ran at the shooter. then he was shot point-blank and killed. police say he took the shooter off his feet and by doing so saved countless lives. this is what his mother said tonight about the school shooting this week. >> it is just terrible that more families are going through this. and while i'm angry and feel em
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bat ltd, at the same time we have to instead of we have to galvanize and figure out how to come up with dialogue to keep this from happening. >> she's right. we need to do something. can we think about this? we're asking our children to be heroic enough to lay their lives on the line when people with guns start shooting in their classroom. we're asking them to be impossibly brave and strong. to have heart and courage and selflessness. what are we asking of ourselves? what are we going for them? nothing. just listen to nate. 12 year-old. sixth grader. at stem school highlands ranch. this is what he told cnn. >> when the shooter got closer she moved us into the closet.
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i was hiding in the corner. and they were outside the door. i had my hand on the metal baseball bat. just in case. because i was going to go down fighting if i was going down. >> did you hear that. our kids in their classrooms are mentally and physically prepared to go down fighting. our preschoolers. have having drills where they learn how to hide from shooters. for the littlest kids they sometimes tell them they are practicing in case a bear or animal gets into a school. it's not the kids who can't handle the truth. the truth that it's a gunman they need to hide from. it's the adults. within a week, one week. we have seen two examples of the best that our kids have to offer. so why can't with e give our best too? because at this point, we're all just playing the odds.
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just hours after the massacre at marjory stoneman douglas, i talked about the odds. and the odds that haven't changed one bit. >> every single one of us is just playing the odds at this point. the odds that in a country of 325 million souls, that we won't be the ones who get hit by the next bullet. that start flying. the one that gets that phone call about someone you love who did. your son, your daughter, your brother. your sister. your spouse or parent. even a friend. anyone you know. the phone call that changes your life. but with every deadly shooting in the country the odds get worse and worse and worse. are you really willing to keep playing the odds? your life is too precious for that. the lives of loved ones and people in the cities and towns are too precious.
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the two suspects accuse offend carrying out a mass shooting made their first appearance in court today. joining me now colorado representative. stem school highlands ranch. is in his district. so glad to have you on. thank you so much. you're a columbine survivor. >> i am. >> how did that impact you and how do you think it will exact those kids? >> for me it was definitely a tough day. to be honest my life was going down a bad path. prior to that shooting. i lost close friends. it changed my life around. and it's a big reason i'm doing what i'm doing now. and i hope the kids kind of have that same thought. with them.
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they can move past this and turn something that's really negative into a positive. >> it does have lasting effects. >> it does. >> as a school shooting survivor yourself, what support was the most helpful to you? what did the community do? >> for me i think the most important thing was having good parents that kept a close eye on me. made me do the right things. being a 15 year-old kid at the time, i really didn't want to go through the pain and suffering of the funerals and visiting the parents that lost loved ones and my parents really made me do that. and i'm glad i did. that gave me closure. >> so, kendrick castillo lost his life saving the other kids. is there anything that you can say to his family or woud like
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to say? >> i think what he did hearing the reports is amazing. he's a total hero. i know that doesn't bring their son back. that's very sad. but it's amazing. we learned a lot of lessons after columbine. and just hearing the stories it's very amazing. what he did that day. >> what is your message to these parents but to all the parents who lost children to gun violence in schools? i know again you're a survivor. what's your message? >> i think we need to take a dloes look at this. and make it a priority and fix it. we have been putting forward several different solutions and we need to come together and solve this problem. in a reasonable manner. >> representative, thank you for your time. we appreciate it. >> thank you. we'll be right back. in one week...
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a prosecutor saying tonight that previously unseen video taken from sandra bland's cell
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phone is not enough to reopen the criminal case stemming from her death in police custody back in 2015, days after she was arrested for failing to use her turn signal. sandra bland's death was ruled a homicide. let's talk about this. w. kamau bell is here with us. thank you for coming on. i spoke to sandra bland's sister sharon last night who is pushing for this case to be reopened. it took four years, kamau, for this video to come to light. do you have any questions? does this raise questions to you about the investigation and how the case was handled? >> you know, so many times with black people in this country that involves law enforcement we don't get the benefit of the doubt and i think every black person who saw this from the very beginning seeing the whole thing allegedly broke down over her attitude knew there were a lot of fishy things going on here and we didn't need the cell phone video to know what the cops were saying was not true. i hope for her family they can
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get the investigation reopened. but black don't need this investigation reopened to know what happened there. >> cell phone, social media, brought a lot of attention. we've discussed this. a lot of attention to incidents like this that we otherwise never may have seen. but this took four years to come out. how many other cases like this, do you think there could be? >> i mean, you know, this goes back to the dawn of this country. you know, the emmett till, whistled at her just said a couple years ago it didn't actually happen that way. this is what this country's built on. we've had plenty of cell phone footage or facebook live of black people being killed on camera by cops for doing nothing. those investigations don't lead anywhere. we have oscar grant in oakland, more information came out about that, and that was ten years ago. there's no end of these cases and right now in this country as we know there's not a lot of political will for justice. you've been spending the whole
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program tonight talking about all the ways in which this country is not standing up for kids in schools who could be shot in school shootings, not a political will for impeachment, not a lot of political will for justice in this country, there's political will for getting reelected. >> this is what united shades of america covers, the fbi covering they are investigating 350 people across the u.s. as possible domestic terrorists, a number of cases targeting white supremacists and white nationalists, jumping in the past six months. what is behind that? >> we have the same conversation all the time, don, the president of the united states of america plays footsies with white supremacists regularly, he encourages them through his rhetoric, hate crimes are up because of that. the call is coming from inside the white house. we know it's happening. it's coming from the white house. we did an episode last week called not all white people. white people have to stand up in their own communities against white supremacy because they
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don't feel like help is coming from local authorities or the president or elected officials. there are people in this country like the john brown gun club patrolling their own neighborhoods and showing up to protect their own people because they see the stuff happening in their neighborhoods. >> the homeland security committee chair agrees with you. watch this. >> from charleston to oak cree to charlottesville, to garden city, we've seen these violent ideologies reel their ugly heads. unfortunately, president trump has tried to play both sides with domestic terrorism. >> why does the president continue to downplay the threat of white supremacists? >> that's his base, don, we've had this conversation many times. that's the base of who will push him into office. because we use the electoral college there's a thumb on the scale of the will of american people when it comes to electing american presidents. he doesn't have to play to all of us, just to his base.
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i'm happy to see we're connecting these acts of white violence as an overall movement. any time a muslim does this, they're instantly put in isis or al qaeda. with white people they get to be individuals. maybe we'll connect these together. >> on this week's episode you travel to minnesota to talk to the mung community. watch this. >> was there any experience of, you know, of racism or -- >> you know, back then when we came here people were accusing us of eating their dogs and cats. i've been pushed down the stairs, been called all kinds of names, been spit on, been told to go back home and all that. i don't know whether that's racism or whether that's just lack of understanding about who we are. >> i think, yeah, it's a lack of understanding. but there's different ways to have a lack of understanding. i don't know who you are. i should find out. versus i don't know who you are, get him, you know. >> what do you expect people to learn from this? >> you know a lot of the season
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of united shades we have to keep reminding america to expand the idea of what an american is. it isn't somebody that looks like you or thinks like you. the mung people of st. paul, minnesota have a proud history with this country before they even showed up here when they fought for america in the secret war run by the cia. that's a history i didn't know. my favorite episodes of the show are episodes where i sit the whole time with my mouth open having my mind blown because i know there's people in the audience who feel the same way. we have to expand the idea of what an american is in this country. >> well -- easier said than done. do you disagree? >> easier said than done. doesn't mean i'm going to stop doing the work. >> that's not what i mean. that's what i want you to talk about that it's tough work that you have to continue to do, and continue to say it even when people yell against it, and say, oh, what are you doing, why is w. kamau bell bringing this up, he's a racist? >> if i could do other things, i would, but this is the only work i know how to do, don.
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i'm not as cute and funny as kevin hart, so i'm doing this. >> thank you, united shades of america, sunday night, 10:00 p.m. here on cnn. thanks for watching. our coverage continues. a subpoena for donald trump jr., the republican-led senate wants to bring him in, but why? >> if it wouldn't for him, i wouldn't have my baby today. >> i was going to go down fighting. >> shock and grief in colorado as a community mourns a hero who took down a school shooter. are the gop attacks on obamacare taking a toll, the rate of uninsured adults ticking up for the first time

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