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i'm brianna keilar live from cnn owes washington headquarters. under way right now, we begin with an impromptu wide ranging q&a with the president weighing in on trade negotiations with china and the new tariffs that he's threatened to enforce, nuclear talks with north korea and a brand-new missile test and, of course, the russia investigation. >> so after spending all of that money, all of that time, two years, they come up with had a report, and bob mueller's no friend of mine. i had conflicts with him. we had a business dispute. we had somebody that is in love with james comey. we like james comey. they were very good friends,
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supposedly best friends, maybe not but best friends. you look at picture file and you see hundreds of pictures and him and comey, and -- and with all of that and other things he wanted the fbi job. i don't know if anybody knows that, but as you know he was considered for the fbi job, wanted it, and the day after he didn't get it he became the special counsel. >> cnn white house correspondent abby philip is live at the white house. what was the original purpose of this appearance, and was the president expected to take so many questions or weigh in on so many of these issues? >> reporter: well, brainna, this was supposed to be an event about medical billing. this is a topic the white house wants to put on the agenda. they want to be proactive about this issue, but instead, as we all saw in the last hour, it was sort of like taking a -- a bottle of soda and shaking it up, and the result is the president really coming out with all of this information about how he feels about a slew of different issues that have been on his plate. just yesterday the white house had closed an event with him
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that would have been an opportunity for him to weigh in on some key issues like the assertion of executive privilege when it came to the full mueller report, among other things. his tax returns. they didn't want the president -- the president to talk to the press at that time. he didn't talk to the press as he left for a rally in florida, but then today he went over that and all kinds of other issues talking about iran, for example, where tensions are rising between the u.s. and iran saying he wants them to call him, to come to the negotiation table, even accusing former secretary of state john kerry of violating the law, saying he should be prosecuted for having backchannel talks with iran. the president saying that kerry is standing in the way of iran coming to the table. he talked china where there are negotiations ongoing over tariffs. he talked about north korea where the north koreans are clearly trying to -- to say to the united states that they want
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a different kind of negotiation situation with the u.s. they are firing off missiles, and the president saying to north korea that he believes that they can continue to negotiate positively, and then he talked about his son don jr. who has been subpoenaed by the senate intelligence committee. the president saying he was actually surprised by that. take a listen to his response to that. >> well, i was very surprised. i saw richard burr saying there was no collusion two or three weeks ago. he went outside and somebody asked him. he somebody asked him and he said we found no conclusion, but i was very surprised to see my son -- my son is a very good person, works very hard. the last thing he needs is washington, d.c. i think he'd rather not ever be involved. remember, he said to me, long time ago when i was thinking about running. dad, if i can help, let me know. it's not my expertise. it's not something i really like, but whatever i can do, you're my father. whatever i can do. he's now testified for 20 hours
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or something, a massive amount of time. the mueller report came out. that's the bible. the mueller report came out, and they said he did nothing wrong. the only thing is it's oppo research. >> reporter: well, the president claiming that the mueller report exonerated his son, but you could clearly see he's frustrated by this, bothered by it and even potentially worried about what this means for his -- his child, his children who he's tried to keep out of all of this, and this is all coming as, you know, we have reporting from our kaitlan collins saying the president's inner circles believing the republican committee chairman has really opened the door for the democrats to continue this conversation about the mueller investigation. they are frustrated by this, because this isn't coming from a democratic-led committee in the house. it's coming from a republican-led committee in the senate and you can see in the president's comments there that he's disappointed, you know, that his son apparently is being
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dragged back before a senate committee and being forced to testify potentially on the very issues of the mueller report which he continues to call unfair and a witch hunt, brianna. >> and you said potential there, abby, because the president was asked about whether his son might fight the subpoena and the president wouldn't say. he'll see what happens. >> yeah, i think he left that door open and given all of the ways in which the administration has pushed back on congressional subpoenas, they have pushed back on demands for documents and testimony. you know, there's a real open question about whether or not they are going to push back on this one, and if they do, on what grounds? i think that's also something for the lawyers to deliberate over, but the president clearly couldn't say that he's going to comply with the subpoena, and so this is going to be a major major question as we go forward given just this week the president, for the first time in his administration, indicating he's likely to exert executive
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privilege over the entire mueller report. they want to fight this. he called this a democratic attempt to have a did a dow-over of the mueller investigation so he's not inclined to allow these kinds of inquiries to go forward, but the question remains as with all of this, on what legal basis, and even if there isn't perhaps a legal basis, will they try to delay this for as long as possible? >> brianna. i know what betting -- what bets they would take on that. >> question to you. what basis would donald jr. have is to push back as his father? the president leaves open this possibility that he may fight the subpoena. >> purely on a legal basis his safest way out would be to take the fifth but politically he doesn't want to do that, and what we're really seeing now is a lot of pressure being put on the senate chairman to essentially take some -- either withdraw the subpoena or to indicate that he's not really going to seek enforcement, not going to hold him in contempt so that this way trump jr. can
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ignore the subpoena and then, you know, realize that there's not going to be any consequences for it. that's what i think is going on right now. >> what do you think the chances of that, julie, of richard burr, being the first person to subpoena a member of the trump family? do you see him withdrawing it? >> i don't see that. this was a pretty big skeps, the committee needed to hear from donald jump jr. and badly enough that it was enough to issue a subpoena. saw similar action on the house side and, again, that's by democrats and the fact that the republican chairman would take a step he feels that there's a pretty substantial issue. i wouldn't expect him to back off and. perhaps the subpoena will kind of lie out there for a while and
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he won't take the kind of adepressive steps that house democrats are willing to take to enforce the subpoena and that's going to be an active debate. >> and even if it does hang out there, and the words of the president, he's unhappy. he's surprised by this. he believes that this gives democrats a talking point, which it does, whether it lies out there or not. the politics of there are very difficult for the president. >> the politics of there are very difficult for the president, and as you heard in that -- in that 45-minute impromptu news conference, he's kind of saying two things here. you heard him say that his son has been exonerated. the president said he himself has been exonerated by the mueller report, but here you have, you know, aggressive moves to say we're not going to comply with subpoenas. we're not going to allow the report to come out. i think he called it a a beautiful report during that avail with reporters right now but if it's so beautiful why is it that he's not allowing it to come forward. that's a difficult political spot to be in. if they feel like the report is
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so great and all the underlying issues they got is fine, why not invite them to congress. >> the president talked about a lot of things. he talked about china as well. let's listen. >> the vice premier, one of the most respected men, one of the highest officials in china is coming. you know, you heard he wasn't coming. he's coming. >> are you going to meet with him? >> i will say this. once the tariffs -- they were supposed to up the meeting. it was supposed to originally take place on thursday and then they said how about friday, how about next week, and i said what that is all about, and i said don't worry about it. let take in $100 billion a year. we put the tariffs on and they upped the meeting. how about we go back to thursday? is it. >> i did get a very nice letter
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from president xi, let's get something done, but they did renegotiate the deal. >> he's playing hardball here. he's trying to portray himself as playing hardball with china but these tariffs set to kick in will have drastic consequences for business owners. we've had them on our show talking about this and also consumers. >> we'll feel it. it is the american consumer and the american buyer who will actually feel these tariffs. the question really is where did this come from? >> it looks like the trade deal -- that this was essentially supposed to be the final round and then we saw the president come out with an aggressive set of tweets and what it really reveals is that the president feels that he's negotiating from a position of strength, that he looks at the u.s. economy and says that -- that he will have the support of the american people. he's coming from a position of strength. the thing is the chinese feel
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the same way, so does this all collapse? we saw as the markets opened on monday, that there were some serious jitters to say the least. the markets plummeted because smart investors and, perts around the world believe we're on the verge of a trade deal. the japanese is briefed about dueling with issues like iran and he even spoke about former secretary of state john kerry who he believes brochet law. let's listen. >> what prompted you to send an aircraft carrier to the region? >> well, they were threatening. we have information that you don't want to know about. they were very threatening, and we just want to have -- we have to have great security for this country and for a lot of other places. >> are you at risk of military confrontation, sir? >> i guess you could say that always, right, isn't it? always. i don't want to say no, but
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hopefully that won't happen. we have one. most powerful ships in the world that's loaded up, and we don't want to have to do anything. what i would like to see with iran, i would like to see them call me. you know, john kerry speaks to them a lot. john kerry tells them not to call. that's a violation of the logan act, and frank he we should be prosecuted on that but -- only the democrats do that kind of stuff, you know. if it was the opposite way, they would prosecute him under the logan act but john kerry violated the logan ability. he's talking to iran and has been. has many meetings and known calls and he's telling them what to do. that's a total violation of the logan act. >> all right. that allegation doesn't even smell mildly correct so fact check it for us. >> the president is saying in no uncertain terms that john kerry in fact is breaking the law, and what kerry will -- has been doing essentially is what he says is what every other
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secretary of state after leaving office has done before him, that's maintaining ties with their former prosecutors around the world. john kerry does maintain very close ties to many foreign ministers, including the one from iran and we have a statement from the kerry spokesman and say let's cut through the distraction and talk about real facts. he stays in touch with former counterparts around the world, just like every other previous secretary of state and in a long phone conversation with secretary pompeo he went into great detail about what he learned with the iranians' view. no secrets were kept from this administration so the president making this allegation. the kerry foxe denying it. they maintain those ties. a lot more to we act about. the world seems ton testing the president. plus in, two weeks, two students die jumping in front of bullets
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we have more on our breaking news and the president's impromptu breaking news conference. the president bush our is on to strike a deal between the u.s. and china and right now stocks are on quite a wild ride ahead of a high-stake negotiation between the world's two largest economies. talk us suddenly turned sour and that rattled market and now we're hours away from president trump's latest tariff threat taking effect. this is just one battle on the world stage that the president is facing. north korea is pushing the limits and apparently launching two more short range mavroules and frustrated with his own advisers with the path forward with venezuela and tensions are flaring with iran over new sanctions and iran's partial withdrawal from the global nuclear deal. amy pope is with us, the recalled toer deputy homestandle homeland security adviser under president obama and aim we just heard from the president on all of these topics. what is going on here as you look at president being tested? is there a sense from your perspective that these leaders may feel emboldened right now,
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kind of across the board in. >> it looks that way, and one of the reasons is that the president is clearly not speaking with the same voice as his key advisers. the very public rift between the president and hisizeder is one very damagi -- his national security adviser is one example of that. we've seen that time and time again whether it's secretary of defense, national security adviser, secretary of state, people will go forward with his message and then he contradicts it and that eventually undermines the power and position of the united states? he said about john bolton, he said that he temperses john bolton and had some specific words for him there. i do want to listen to something that the president said when he weighed in about north korea. let's listen >> nobody is happy about it, but we're taking a good look and we'll see. we'll see. the relationship continues, but we'll see what happens. i know they want to negotiate
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but i don't think they are red though negotiate. >> he's downplaying the possibility of some sort of breakthrough there. what do you make of that, amy? >> well, i think that's the right answer. what appears to be happening is north korea is testing the united states, trying to push them towards some sort of negotiation, reopening the talks. the president is right not to kowtow to that and accept that as an appropriate way of negotiating but there's a more serious question by undergirds all of this which is what is the president's strategy in north korea? what is the diplomatic negotiation going no it behind the scenes? we saw that very pubically break down the last time the president was in talks with the north koreans, and i think the north koreans are trying to capitalize and exploit that at this moment in time. >> i want to bring our kylie atwood into this conversation. she's been covering the north korea story and all the ins and outs and when you see the president saying this and
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downplaying the expectations what, brought us to this point where he's pouring some cold water on moving forward? >> well, they have had no progress since the hanoi summit, right? we saw just yesterday that the u.s. said that they are going to be suspending their efforts with the north koreans to look for american war remains. that the was the first thing that the trump administration heralded as a joint effort, that the two were working on together. now they are not getting any answers from the north koreans. they can no longer do that. we also heard pompeo just a few days ago say that he doesn't think that the north koreans are necessarily telling the truth, that they are being forthright in these negotiations, and that comes after president trump has repeatedly said that he trusts kim jong-un and he thinks thinks are going well so we're seeing a number of signs here, and the president is putting very clear point on it now saying they may not actually be ready to negotiate even though the trump
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administration and trump himself really thought that they were. >> so where does move on from here? >> well, that's the question. i mean, is there going to be another summit sore there not in the secretary pompeo was not sure if there would be one over the summer. obviously, however, the white house would like another summit. looks good. puts president trump on the world stage doing something that no other president has been able to do with north korea, and especially ahead of 2020 it would be helpful, but if they can't accomplish anything, they don't want to walk out looking extremely lame and like they haven't been able to push the ball forward anymore so maybe both sides are going to dial it back. we have to see how north korea responds and how other actors like russia, who is now meeting with kim jong-un, get more involved, and if they have any impact. >> yeah. a summit to what end? >> kylie atwood, amy pope really appreciate your perspective as well. more on our break news. the president sounding off on a
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. twice in two weeks now students have sacrificed their lives to save their friends from a school shooter. high school and college students who were displaying the kinds of acts of valor for which trained soldiers receive medals of honor. this is the reality of school violence in america right now. last week 21-year-old riley howell died tackling a shooter at unc charlotte. authorities say howell's actions end what could have been a massacre, and then earlier this week a shooter opened fire at a school in colorado. and 18-year-old kendrick castillo lunged to the gunman, a move that saved his classmates but cost him his life. three other students helped tackle the shooter and one classmate speaking out of his classmate. >> i remember being in fear once he walked in. once movement started to happen you could see the fight or flight and i was happy to know
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what i thought i could do in in a situation like that is the reality of what i did. i want to make something very, very clear. kendrick castillo died a legend. he died a troop ernl. he got his ticket to valhalla and i know he'll be with me for the rest my life. >> so it will take a long time for the residents of this denver suburb to heal. all of the unanswered questions add to the struggle, why did this happen? were there signs? was this preventable? cnn national couldn't ryan young is in highlands ranch, colorado. you've been following this, ryan, and while it's still pretty early in this investigation what, have authorities revealed so far? >> yeah, there's a lot of conversation about the next steps here, brianna. i want to give you an update real quick. there's little police activity there as the sheriff's deputies continue their investigation around the school. we also know that there's going to be another 24 hours before charges are officially placed on the two suspects, but there's also coming to light the fact that there was a parent who
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apparently had a child at this the school who was reaching out to the district to say they felt like there were conditions at the school that they wanted some attention placed into, and they thought it was ripe for some kind of violent act like columbine. don't forget, that's seven miles away. people want topped know why was this parent saying that these conditions existed here and that this was a high pressure situation? what was done about it? then you take the fact that the students have actually been putting their hands around this, brianna in, a way like what we've sheen in the parkland case. there was a vigil last night and politicians showed up and students didn't like that. they wanted to focus on kendrick and his memory and the fact that this school pout back. i think when you see young people in the way they have been expressing themselves and the 6-year-old and others who were willing to fight back because they didn't want to be victims, it's astonishing to see how the community has changed, talking to and earring some young people
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taught, they know they will never go back to being a normal school here. they want to focus on the victims and there's three people that still remain in the hospital, forever changed. people were watching a move, three days before school was over. someone walks in and talks to the teacher and the next thing you know they close the door and apparently say to everyone don't move and that's when kendrick reacted and that's how people want to remember him. really astonishic when you hear from people in this community about how much love there is for that kid who gave up his life to save his other classmates. >> and for his parents as we've heard from who tried to cope with his loss even as they are extremely proud of him. important to remember what they are going through, too. ryan young, thank you so much. just a short time from now the boston red sox will visit the white house, but they will be without some keep people on the team including the manager who cites the president's puerto rican response as a reason for not going. other 150 years. ♪ to inspire confidence through style.
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former secretary of state john kerry is now responding to accusations that president trump made just moments ago, the president claim without proof that kerry is breaking the law and telling iran not to the call him saying that he is negotiating with iran, that kerry is negotiating with iran. that's what the president said. let's listen. >> we have one of the most powerful ships in the world that's loaded up, and we don't want to have to do anything. what i would like to see with iran, would i like to see them call me. you know, john kerry speaks to them a lot. john kerry tells them not to the
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call. that's a violation of the logan act, and frankly he should be prosecuted on that, but my people don't want to do anything that's -- only the democrats do that kind of stuff, you know. if it were the opposite way, they would prosecute him under the logan act, but john kerry violated the logan act. he's talking to iran and has been, has many meetings and many known calls and he's telling them what to do. that's a total violation of the logan act. >> let's bring in cnn senior diplomatic correspondent michelle kosinski. have you gotten a statement from john kerry. tell us what he's saying. >> reporter: right. this has been litigated before. there were members of the administration that brought up this subject late last year. now president trump seems to be taking it further by pubically declaring that former secretary of state john kerry should be prosecuted for his conversations with members of the iranian leadership. so here's what kerry's spokesperson is saying in response to this.
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everything president trump said today is simply wrong, end of story. he's wrong about the facts, wrong about the law and sadly he's been wrong about how to use diplomacy to keep america safe. secretary kerry helped negotiate a nuclear agreement that helped to solve an intractable problem. the world support it had then, supports it now. we hoped the president would focus on fixing foreign policy issues rather than attack his predecessors. when this game up years ago, kerry responded that he's staying in touch with his former counterparts at other other former secretary of states have done. he himself has he had these vosgess as a matter of years and
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that he's not advocating against current u.s. policy. they are saying that kerry is persuading iranians not to talk to trump and kerry didn't address that exactly in this statement, but we expect to hear more from them later. brooke? >> all right. we'll check back with you. >> reporter: i'm sorry. >> i know you know who yrnlgs michelle. i'll take it as as compliment. >> take care. >> thanks, michelle. thank you. the president also responding today to news that the senate intelligence committee led by republican richard burr has subpoenaed his son, donnal jvrmt let basset griffon in our senior justice correspondent evan perez to talk about this. why does the committee want to hear from the president's son? they heard from him before. >> reporter: yeah. it's been a surprise certainly to everyone involved, and people behind the swhooens have becene working on this have said to the committee that it would be stupid of any lawyer to allow their client to go back and talk
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to these committees after he's already talked to them, you know, three different commits after obviously the mueller report has come out. it would be just cl colossally stupid for any lawyer to allow that so they have been trying to figure out a way to have him answer questions in written format, kind of the way his father did, a take home test version, and that seems to have not worked here, so i don't know what the -- what the solution will be because the question is does the committee have the support to try to enforce this subpoena? that's another question. you can see the blowback that burr is getting from republicans. it's not clear that me that he will have that. just a surprise the way that this developed after a couple of weeks of negotiation. >> and what are the options of donald trump jr., he could proceed the fifth but that would look terrible, right? he wouldn't really want that -- that's optics. >> look, that's been an option
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on the table for all of this because keep in mind, remember, the special counsel robert mueller wanted his testimony and he refused. it's not clear exactly why they didn't push the issue. the question of whether or not donald trump jr. would plead the fifth was part that have consideration as well. it never actually got to that point, and so, yeah, i think you're right. i think from the donald trump jr. standpoint they do not want the imagery of that. they do not want that out there pubically, and so that's why i think they are so -- they are so upset that a republican chairman has put them in this position, the president's son. again, democrats didn't actually ever do this. it's the republican charm to do this. >> the first one to subpoena a member of the trump family. pretty stunning. >> evan, thanks so much for that. healthcare is shaping up to be a major issue in the 2020 election, and one former democratic senator has a warning for her party. if you ditch obamacare in favor of medicare for all, you will
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when the boston red sox visit the white house later today, it will be without their manager. alex cora decided to skip the celebration because of the administration's response to the puerto rico disaster relief. when asked about it, the president repeated his wild and false claim about the aid that has been given to the island. >> just so you understand, we gave puerto rico $91 billion for the hurricane. that's the largest amount of money ever given to any state, talking about states and puerto rico, a little different. $91 billion. texas got 30. florida got 12. puerto rico got $91 billion, so i think the people of puerto rico should real like president trump. >> congressional correspondent phil mattingly here with me now. they didn't get $91 billion. that's fact check on this. >> yeah. let's just start from the top
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line. that's not true, what the president said today and last night in the panhandle in florida where this is obviously a big issue, what he said repeatedly including in closed door lunches and closed door meetings with senate republicans, the $91 billion number is not true, period, end of story. here's what true. in the wake of the hurricanes they have been allocated somewhere around $40 billion to $41 billion by congress. of that allocated money which is 50 billion less than what the president is saying it was, a little over 10 billion, is a billion has actually been paid out to the island. let's make perfectly clear. the island has had serious fiscal issues before the hurricane and that's one of the driving forces over the disagreement and part of frustration that white house officials have said that they have. he believes they haven't been handling their finances well enough and, therefore, shufnt be given more money is. the issue is the top line number which he brings out a hart and shows a graph which is related to long term projections, in addition to the budget window what the cost may be in federal assistance needed in puerto rico
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given the damage they face. it's at the heart of the current -- the heart of the current fight over a disaster aid bill and you cover congress. you know they move through pretty quickly. conservatives vote against them on this is stalled out now for weeks because the white house made clear the president doesn't want any more money for puerto rico and democrats have continued to fight and some republicans have as well. what they are trying to do to solve this issue, senator republicans put out an offer to add $300 million to the initial offer, another $600 million in food stamp allocations and put guardrails on not to use it as community development or block grant unless you check a box on a few things for the payout and the democrats rejected that saying it would not get the money fast enough and the white house has not signed off and so nobody knows where the president is and so it is complicated and why the bill hasn't moved far and why alex cora has problems
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and why this issue is still very real on capitol hill. >> and an independent look at this found that the president's housing and urban development department has not done a good job here. so there is blame in the trump administration about how this money is being put out there. phil mattingly, thank you so much for that. a former democratic senator has a warning for his party's presidential candidates. heidi heitkamp said abandoning obamacare would make it harder for democrats to beat president trump in 2020. in a washington post op-ed she writes, quote, campaigning on medicare for all, democrats would give trump a costly, drastic proposal to attack. better to put trump on defense for health care forcing him to account for his relentless attacks on the aca. don't take that advantage off the table by ditching the affordable care act for medicare for all. and heidi heitkamp is with us from bismarck, north dakota to talk about this. explain why you think this is
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such a big miscalculation. >> well, think about what happened last week. last week the president through the department of justice filed a brief that if they're successful in court will take away your children being on your health insurance until they are 26, it will take away your projections on pre-existing conditions and rip away health care for people who are on medicaid expansion and the list goes on and on. that is what we should be talking about. we should be asking them what is your solution to this problem? and i think that when you look at it, and you look at polling and you look at the availability of other ideas, i think that it is really important that we not disrupt the health care system. not offer to disrupt the health care system. that is not what the public wants. you know what public wants? they want health care to be more affordable and want to know why prescription drugs are going up and why the hospital copays are going up. these are the things we should be responding to.
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>> this medicare for all is popular with the liberals in your party. you are not, which you are not a member. so you look more at general election but these folks are looking at a primary election where they have to appeal to the base. it seems possible that this ship has already sailed, that the uss medicare for all is out to sea. are you concerned it is too late for this course correction you're talking about? >> absolutely not. think there is new entrance into this race like vice president biden and senator bennett talking about alternatives that don't include medicare for all. but the one thing that i know, i've been all over this country and i have a lot of great supporters, some you would call liberals. you know what they say, we need someone who can win. we need a strategy that is winning so that we could move this country forward again and they are willing to compromise maybe some of the hard core, hard-felt beliefs on the left side to basically be the party that could win in the next
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election. >> how worried are you about -- you're keeping your eye on joe biden, how worried are you about presidential candidates who are operating in that liberal lane, who are polling more moderate democrats to the left? >> you know, this is all going to be in the market place of ideas as we move forward in this primary season. but it is important -- it is interesting because people say well that is not a democratic belief. guess what? i'm a democrat. some people would say i lost my election because i'm a democrat. and i think i have a right to basically say pay attention to the real health care issues and i always tell people, you know what should be our policy, let's keep people healthier longer and figure out a system that does that. and not simply argue about obamacare or medicare for all. let's talk about health care and let's talk about the real concerns that people have today which is health care costs too much for a dwindling and lower
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outcome that many other countries who pay far less in their gdp for health care. that's the issue we should be confronting but we should put the republicans on the defensive. saying what is your plan? right now their plan is to rip the affordable care act out from underneath the american public causing huge damage with no promise for any kind of reform going forward. that is a huge issue and in politics, guess what? a good offense is the best way that we can win. and we should be putting this party, the republican party, on the defense. and we're not doing that because we're spending all of our time explaining what is, in fact, medicare for all. >> i want to ask you, while i have you here about this historic field of women who are part of the larger democratic primary candidates. and you look at the polls and it is the men who are leading in the polls. speaker nancy pelosi has said that the women aren't getting the attention that they deserve. it is very clear that they are
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not getting the attention that the men are getting. do you have any idea why, are you hearing anything from your former constituents about why they may not be responding to these female candidates when they have so many choices? >> i think it is really hard to take a look at top-line polls. vice president biden enjoys the widest name recognition and he's like the warm blanket that you always go to or the pair of sweatpants that you go to. but it is going to take some amount of creativity i think to break through that. but to me this is -- this is very early in this cycle. obviously senator harris polls very highly. she's usually in the top five. there is a whole lot of men who are in the bottom tier as well. so i think it is really important that we present an opportunity to listen to all sides. and obviously when you look at the cnn town hall, you had two of the five that you presented
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were, in fact -- three were women. so you can't blame cnn when senator klobuchar sand senator warren and harris were part of that experience. and so it is going to take voters, especially democratic party primary voters a longer period of time to examine every opportunity that they have to pick their candidate and when you look at the tiering, you'll see that maybe the second most favorable person, once they lose their favorite, is in fact one of the women in the race, whether it is senator warren or senator harris. >> senator heidi heitkamp, thank you so much. just in. we have new details on a north korean cargo ship that was seized by the u.s. we're live from the pentagon with that. and the details behind a raid of a mansion discovering more than a thousand weapons. hy? one jar shatters the competition. olay regenerist hydrates skin better than creams costing over $100, $200, and even $400. fact check this ad in good housekeeping.
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