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thank you for joining us, i'm poppy harlow. >> and i'm jim sciutto. "at this hour" with kate baldwin starts right now. hello, everyone, i'm kate baldwin, thank you so much for joining me. they are waking up to a nightmare in the midwest this morning. right now in ohio, zersearch an rescue teams are digging through the devastation of a tornado outbreak. several large and destructive twisters peeling off roofs, burying roads with trees, debris, power lines. rescue teams resorting to using snowplows to clear some roads at this point. millions are now without power this morning after there were dozens of tornadoes reported over the past 24 hours, and if that wasn't enough, oklahoma and arkansas are bracing for record breaking flooding at this moment. we're going to have more on that in just a second but first i
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want to get to cnn's ryan young in selina, ohio celina, ohio, t speak for themselves but what have you been seeing and hearing this morning. >> reporter: a lot of people were thanking god for being alive at this point. when you see their homes, you can understand why, look across the street, and you can see the damage at this house here, and already people starting the clean up process with the back loader already at work here. the person who lives here was a firefighter, he was out with his crew last night trying to make sure other people were safe. his wife and kids were on the inside in the basement trying to make sure they could ride out the storm. the kitchen actually collapsed as my photographer jake follows he here. one of the things as we try to navigate safely through here. that's a part of a roof that flew off from someone's house. that's sitting here. look at the back of this home as we get closer here. watch the wires. look where the collapse is, you can tell people were scared, they were terrified by this fast
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moving powerful storm. in fact, listen to this woman who tells about how terrifying this was. >> i came out last night, and the first things i thought of was war zone because it just looked like somebody just took a bomb. >> you know, how we say, like a freight train, i have heard it before, and when i heard that, i told my wife, in the basement now. then we heard all kind of stuff hitting the house, and after it was over, we just couldn't believe it. >> seeing this on tv, and i never thought it would hit home. >> could you feel the pressure of the storm. >> oh, yeah, you could do it. scared, that's what it was. >> heartbreaking. heartbreaking. and it's not just here. it's out of town. >> reporter: as you can imagine, the pain in people's voices as they had to deal with this. neighbors who have basically lost their neighborhood to a certain extent, but they're helping each other.
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look at that home over there. look at the destruction this brought through. jake i'm going to walk you this way a little bit. i want you to show that. you can see another shed that's turned over on its side. this storm moved through here, we shot drone video, and we could see for more than a half mile, there's cars tossed over on their side, there's homes without their roofs and then you have this scene here. this firefighter who worked all night last night has to come home to the fact that most of the backside of his house is gone, and now some of his firefighter buddies have come through here to help him board up his house and get going. the wife and kids are fine, the dog survived the storm, you can understand why people are so emotional, and so upset about this, they have been great, in fact, the people that we talked to really kind of touch your heart because they have been all very happy that they made it through this. you really see the spirit of america in the middle part of this country sometimes when they're talking about how to help each other through a storm like this. >> that's amazing, what kind of
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perspective you can bring. when you're talking about perspective, the drone video you were able to take earlier is amazing on the destruction that these tornadoes brought. ryan, thank you so much for reporting on the ground. now, about an hour south from where ryan is, a tornado plowed through brookville, ohio, just outside of dayton, and that's where my next guest lives, surviving what he says was a direct hit to his house while he was in it. michael sussman is joining me on the phone. michael can you hear me? >> yes, i can. >> thank you so much for joining me. i really appreciate it. you were hit by flying debris in the middle of all of this. how are you doing this morning? >> well, i'm doing fine. i got six staples in my scalp, and i've got some abrasions. i was standing in the front room, and something, it was a miracle, told me to get in the hallway, and as i moved into the hallway, the front room got completely blew off, the roof got took off, my daughter and her boyfriend were smart enough to be in the bathroom, and they
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were buried in debris, and that was pretty devastating. >> to say the least. did you see the roof get ripped off? >> so in the moment, you really don't know what's going on at that point when you do go in shock, so the last thing i was really remembering, i stayed conscious, was looking at the front window and thinking this is going to be bad, and i'm 59, and it was the worst thing i've ever seen, so at that point, i knew that if we survived, we were going to be lucky, and we were lucky, because we did survive. >> in those moments, what did you -- what do you remember feeling? >> well, it was an ominous feeling looking at the weather. i didn't hear the train so much, the wind and the rain were blowing much harder than i had ever seen, and they had a hurricane actually believe it or not in brookville, ohio, and they were 70, 80 miles per hour
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winds, so i've seen strong winds, but this was an ominous feeling, something made my body move 2 foot to the left, thank god because the entire front room i was standing in is no longer there, and there are many other hours back in the flat that are totally destroyed. mine's not the only one. >> your neighborhood, you were able to go back in to see what was left of the house and your neighborhood. how do you describe it? >> pretty emotional. you know, people walking around sta staring, i have been through a fire so i kind of knew some of the feelings, but when you're looking through rubble and walking over your roof, and trying to find pictures of your family, and the things that you can't replace, it's pretty rough. pretty rough to go through. >> your daughter and her boyfriend, they're okay, yeah? >> yeah, my daughter and her boyfriend survived and my other daughter was with her mother
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around the corner, their house also got destroyed and they both survived so god was watching over all of us last night, and fortunately it's a small town and people come together. a friend of my sister's is going to start a go fund me page to help try to get things back together and try to find a normal life again. >> michael, thank you so much for speaking with me. i'm so sorry that this happened to you, but i'm so grateful that you're here. >> okay. thank you. >> bye. >> good luck. let's turn now to the other threat, the other devastation that we're seeing. record breaking floods that i mentioned earlier in central united states, ed lav daandera, he's in sand springs, oklahoma, keeping an eye on that. ed, what are you seeing there? >> reporter: hi kate, there's a bit of a helplessness at this point as many residents are standing on the waters edge of these flood waters waiting for it to dissipate, and waiting for the waters to go down. we are in a neighborhood called
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sand brings, west of tulsa, oklahoma, and believe it or not, we are about a mile away from the banks of the arkansas river, and as you take our drone shot, and you look over this area where there are dozens of homes that have been, you know, submerged in water, many residents telling us the homes they have seen, taking in 2 to 6 feet of water, all of the water from the keystone dam which was a few miles away upstream, the water from the lake being released there at 275,000 cubic feet of water per second to give you an idea of how much water that is, it's a little more than three olympic sized swimming pools, rushing out of those flood gates every second, so all of this is just simply staggering when you consider how much water and the current in this river at this point, we were up close in a different area, close to the water's edge, and it's staggering just how fast moving this water is, and all of this is flowing downstream. there's a great deal of concern downstream in fort smith, arkansas, where flood waters are
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expected to crest the next couple of days. 5 to 6 feet there. >> the danger is today, then it goes to another part down the river tomorrow. it never gets easy to see pictures like you're showing us right now, edment thank you so much -- ed, thank you so much, appreciate it. john kasich, former governor of ohio, now a cnn political commentator, before we get to politics and policy and there's a lot to discuss there, you're the former governor of ohio, you're right now, i think you're about an hour and a half from dayton where you are. what do you make of that devastation there overnight? >> well, you know, kate, over eight years we have had to deal with a lot of storms. this one sounds absolutely devastating. i think there's a loss of a life in salina, which is a -- celina, which is a town of 10,000. in the middle of this first responders are on the scene, now it will unfold the emergency management people here in ohio will be there. they always do preparation, you know, when they see something coming. this one, i think, may have
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caught everyone a little bit by surprise. you know, the national guard will be involved, probably the highway patrol to some degree, and, you know, what will happen is they'll get into the cleanup, which will take a time, and you will see a great many great stories of people who, you know, contribute. they care about their neighbors. i found it to be particularly interesting, the gentleman who was injured with his daughter and the boyfriend was in the bathroom, he said, god watched over us. you know, he didn't say god brought the storm. he said god watched over us. i thought that's kind of the middle of america. that's those values of hope and the future. but these are really tough times is for politicians, they just need to stay clear because the last thing you need to do is rush in with your entourage and get in the way. we always took a pause before we went, and then it's entirely appropriate for elected officials to go and to figure out if there's some creative
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things that they can suggest to people who are involved in clean up. very very tough. we are in our basement last night, here in columbus. we had warnings, the sirens went off, and you have to take this stuff seriously, even when you think it won't be you, you know, you just never know. >> it's great to have your perspective on that. we know the governor is up against a lot. any governor is up against a lot when they face such a natural disaster like what they're looking at now. thanks for that, governor. let's talk about national politics because there's a lot going on. we have president trump, he's on his way back from his trip to japan. while he was there, governor, the president sided with north korea's kim jong un on his opinion of joe biden, let me play what he said. >> kim jong un made a statement that joe biden is a low iq individual. he probably is, based on his record, i think i agree with him on that. >> echoing the words of a
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ruthless dictator about any american, let alone a former vice president of the united states, you saw that and you thought what? >> i thought it was just crazy, i mean, you know, you don't use those foreign trips to play domestic politics, particularly as you approach an election. it's just, it's not an appropriate way to operate. in addition to that, i don't think it was a good trip because ar abe, the leader of japan, wanted some concessions on trade. he didn't get them, and he's very worried about his agricultural segment as we are here. he was actually somebody that believed in the pacific trade agreement, which japan was a part of, which we walked away from. and they talked about the need for some sort of a bilateral agreement between us and japan. it's really gotten nowhere, and then at the same time, you have the president's advisers who were talking about the fact that they're very concerned about the activity of north korea
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launching these projectiles into the ocean and the president sort of dismisses it. >> i hear you, you give me your perspective, but i mean, that was no small thing. you've got the president also siding with kim, contradicting the assessment of his national security team that north korea fired ballistic missiles this month. i mean, john bolton said this weekend that there is no doubt that north korea violated un security council resolutions with these moves. i am left with there's such a direct conflict in the opinions of the national security adviser one day, the president the next day, basically, who are americans supposed to believe, the president or his national security adviser. does it concern you they're not on the same page. >> aides can say everything they want but at the end, the buck stops with the leader of the country. and it might be here in this case that donald trump is not trying to ratchet up the
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rhetoric, and he's trying to figure out whether there's some way forward. the problem has been that we have not seen the kind of progress we'd like to see, and we know that the leader of north korea has been to russia, he's in consultation with china who we're kind of in the middle of a trade -- not kind of, we're in the middle of a trade war with. >> we're officially. >> >> and i don't know where this leverage is. if his idea is let's not ratchet it up. let's not go back to, there weren't the ballistic missiles that we were concerned about being launched. i'm willing to say to the president, you lower that, that's fine with me. bolton has always been very outspoken, but we can't ignore the fact that they continue to enrich uranium and it's a intractable situation. i think the key is china, when you're in a trade war, trying to get them to help you with north korea, it's just not working, but we got nothing out of that trip, really. >> when you're in a fight with everybody, who are you going to find to be your friends. that might be what the united
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states is starting to look at. governor, thank you for coming in. >> he may have gotten a lesson in sumo wrestling, i don't know where that will be. >> let's see where that is helpful. >> when he gets back to washington and sumo wrestles with who, i don't know, maybe the house democrats. >> let us see. you get a front row seat if that happens. governor, thank you. thank you so much. and thank you for your per sp k speculative on everything happening in ohio. a new death at the world's highest peak as experts warn overcrowding at mount everest is getting out of control. is overcrowding to blame. what's it like to be up there. we'll go live with a climber just back from the summit. joe biden is on the campaign trail, is the front runner losing ground. we'll to iowa to see what voters there think about biden's strategy. stay with us. it's either the assurance of a 165-point certification proces.
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he's now the 11th death in just over a week. that mountain has always been a dangerous and hostile place for climbers but pictures now coming out with some of these we're showing you. one veteran climber is now calling it a death race. >> lots of people died this year, everyone knows, and it's been a carnage, and i should say it has become a death race there. because there was a massive traffic jam and people are pushing themselves, who are not even capable of doing it. they do it, they try to summit, and instead of summiting, they kill themselves. >> cnn's arwa damon went to the base camp and sent back this report. watch. >> we have just arrived to everest base camp, and i have to say, even at this altitude, even without being anywhere near to the summit, you really feel the impact of the decreased oxygen levels, the scenery here is a absolutely spectacular. you really understand what the draw and appeal is.
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that's the ice fall that is so famous. it's what the climbers first have to go through to get to camp one, and then of course as they move on up through the different camps and the different stops, trying to reach what is the one main goal that united everybody here, and normally this entire area at the peak of the season is covered in tents. what you have right now behind me is just a few tents that have been left, their clean up crews. there's still a handful of climbers that are down there, some of the last ones to come down from the summit on what has been an especially devastating hiking season for the summit of everest because of the level of fatalities. and because of the issues that arose from all of this backlog that took place, the photographs, the long lines of people waiting inside the death
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zone call that because the levels of oxygen there are so low. every breath you take in the death zone only gives you a third of the oxygen that you would get at sea level, so you have to be climbing with oxygen tanks and so these long waiting hours may have contributed to the deaths that we did see, at least to most of them. and a lot of these climbers aren't dying on the way up. you can make it to that goal, you can make it to that summit. it's when you come back down, that's when people's bodies tend to succumb to altitude sickness. a lot of debate right now as to whether or not nepal needs to be doing more to regulate the number of permits, to regulate who goes up, what level of experience they have. there's been a lot of criticism about inexperienced climbers going up but there's also a burden of responsibility on the individual. yes, this is such a challenge. it is such a goal that is really
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going to push you mentally and physically to the limit, but all of the climbers we're talking to are saying you really need to know how to listen to your body, and just being here right now, one really feels the effect of the lower levels of oxygen. arwa damon, cnn on the nepalese side. >> thank you so much. canadian film maker is working working on a documentary, and eli is joining me now from katmandu. thank you so much for being here. you posted on instagram the following just so our viewers know it, you posted this after -- about your latest climb. i cannot believe what i saw there. death, carnage, chaos, lineups, can you describe for us what was it like this time? what did you see?
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telling you about the 11th death on mount everest in just over a week and the traffic jams that climbers are encountering up there right now. canadian film maker, elia saikaly has just completed his third climb to the summit and he is joining me now from katmandu. elia, you just made this trek. you posted on instagram that crow couldn't believe what you saw up -- you couldn't believe what you saw up there this time. what was it like? >> you know, having been there a number of times, this is my 8th expedition, and third time standing on the summit, i had the, you know, incredible privilege and pleasure of standing up there when there was virtually no one there, so this time around when we left camp three and we were on our way to camp four, the final camp, you know, the first sign of an alarm was that there were, you know, 50 to 60 people heading up towards camp four. when we left on our summit night on the 22nd of may, there were literally over 200 climbers heading to the summit, and you
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know, the only question you're asking yourself is how on earth are we all going to get up there and get back down safely. >> what did you see? when you wrote death, carnage, chaos up there, i mean, that sounds horrible and you're also talking about the most, you know, horrific conditions anyway, climbing mount everest, what did you see? >> yeah, i mean, you know, you're at 8,000 meters above sea level, so as human beings, we're all transient up there, and you know, your body is already literally starting to die up there, and you know, 20 minutes after exiting camp four, you know, you're climbing, you got a head lamp on your head, oxygen mask on your face, and the first thing i saw was a climber being carried down by two sherpas, and at first it's quite confusing it's dark, and i realize this person has lost their life, and you know, we're 20 minutes into the climb. you know, 45 minutes into the climb, there was a climber being brought down that was delirious,
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we're caught in these cues, this person is obviously suffering from acute mountain sickness. thank god that person had some sherpa support that was bringing them down, and you know, the piece that was, you know, the most alarming for me and the most devastating really was that three hours into our climb, around midnight, you know, there was a climber who had taken a fall and had lost their life, and you know, that climber was fixed to the safety lines and so every single person that was heading to the summit had to actually, you know, step over that lifeless body and, i mean, who has the tools to deal with something like that. it was absolutely devastating. >> absolutely. and i mean, as you said, this is not your first time, your first experience heading up everest. you're now questioning whether or not you'll ever go at it again, why is that? >> for the risk, you know, there's just way too many people on the mountain, and, you know, when you're seeing a loss of life like that, and seeing so
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many inexperienced climbers, that, you know, they're not well trained. they don't have the right, you know, logistical support or strategic support or sherpa support or oxygen support, you know, you get yourself up there, and you're worried about yourself and your own life, you're worried about your team members because their lives are at risk as well and the larger community, you're worried about everyone kwho everyone who's on the mountain, and what we saw are up wards of ten people, and the numbers are likely going to rise, you have to ask yourself how bad is this going to get in the future, with so many people going up there, should a storm come in and take out dozens of climbers. you have to ask yourself, why are we all coming up here and is it worth it, and what can we do to fix the problem, i think, is the most important question. >> i think that's a very important question. you have the senior nepalese tourism official saying nepal is looking at changing requirements
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for issuing everest permits. do you think that is the right move? >> i think definitely limiting the number of permits, you know, we're seeing this happen in china on the tibet an side of te mountain. i think the bigger issues are climbers educating themselves, make sure they show up prepared, fit, and make the responsible and ethical decision to choose the right company. what you're seeing is a lot of people trying to save many, going with outfitters who don't have the experience, the understanding what a foreign climber may need to reach the top of the world. i hope the public educates themselves should they have the dream of standing on top of the world, of making the right choice. >> and folks have been so struck, and it's impossible to not be so struck to see the pictures of the absolute traffic jam on that razor's edge, going up to the summit.
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>> yes. >> what is is it like to be caught in a traffic jam as you're summiting to the top of everest? >> you know, i wish i had that answer, and the reason i don't have that answer is because, you know, we had a very strong team, and we had a number of women on that team, pardon me, we had a number of women on that team that were incredibly strong, incredibly fit. we were all very well trained and we actually all had the ability to pass climbers, so we probably passed, you know, 40 to 60 climbers that night, and we were very well prepared and very well trained, but when you're actually caught in that line, and it's minus, you know, 30 degrees, and you know, you're at 8,700 meters above sea level and the person in front of you is exhausted and are potentially making mistakes, it's alarming. you've got a 12,000 foot drop to your left, and nobody wants to let you pass, you know, it's
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definitely alarming and you know, you need to be prepared in order to know exactly what to do in a situation like that, and sometimes, you know, you just really need to be a little bit aggressive and place your hand in front of that person who is taking their time because, you know, your life is on the line as well. >> you've been up there when people have died in some of your previous climbs and under, you know, various conditions. after you've experienced that as a climber and what folks are experiencing up there now in seeing these deaths, what is it that keeps you pushing forward? >> well, i always say that i chase the stories, not the summits, i was a film maker documenting for arab women from the east african region, standing on top of the world to be the first in their countries. that's my motivation. i look for the why, i look for the fulfillment. i look for the projects that are going to impact people, and hopefully in our case, these women inspire an entire
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generation of women, and at the same time we were promoting peace and tolerance, and inclusiveness and equality. that's what drives me to be in those environments. everybody is driven for different reasons but that's certainly where i find my inner strength and reason to continuously go back to the mountain. >> elia, thank you so much for your time. we're showing viewers some of the pictures with the women that you made the climb up to the summit with, and i'm really looking forward to seeing your end product of your work. it's mind boggling that you not only can climb, but batteries, equipment, and filming all the way, i can only imagine the additional x factor that adds in, it blows my mind. appreciate it. >> you're very welcome. thank you. coming up for us, joe biden has held eleven campaign events in the first month of his campaign. some of his opponents have held that many in the first 48 hours. can the democratic candidate
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a different strategy. he has held just 11 public events since launching his campaign a month ago. joining me right now is cnn political report arlette saenz. you're in houston, what are you hearing, why is biden holding relatively speaking so few events? >> reporter: well, kate, joe biden is definitely running a front runner style campaign. part of his strategy is the fact that he is well known among voters across the country, so he doesn't need to spend as much time out on the trail as other democratic candidates who are just starting to introduce themselves to voters. so you've really seen this lighter schedule, as you mentioned, biden has held only 11 public events since he entered the race, and that was over a three-week period of time. and that's fewer than his other democratic contenders who are currently in the race. so you've seen him focus a lot on big dollar, high money
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fundraisers. he's held nine of those across the country since he entered the race, three last week alone when he had no public appearances. really over the next month, you're going to see biden starting to focus on mapping out some policy, this week here in texas, he's going to be talking about education as he par participates in a town hall with a teachers union. his wife will also be here for that event. going forward, expect to hear more about policy from the former vice president. he had promised a major climate change speech by the end of the month. so far his team hasn't offered any guidance about whether or not that's actually going to happen before the end of may, but going forward, he will be providing some policy. biden has also really avoided getting into these interparty debates within the democratic party, keeping his focus squarely on president trump. that's something to expect to see him doing going forward especially as he gets closer to the first debate. >> great to see you, thank you so much, appreciate it. let's get the view from the
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ground in the key early state of iowa, bryce smith, the chairman of the dallas county democratic party. thanks for being here. >> no problem. thank you, kate. >> of course. you're hearing biden's campaign, they're running a front runner strategy. his campaign has argued that he doesn't need to introduce or reintroduce himself like the other democratic hopefuls do in this early stage, hence the fewer events, fewer public events. do you think they're right? >> i think it kind of can go both ways. i think joe biden has been in the spotlight essentially since being vice president but also before that so that his name is there, but voters here in caucus goers in iowa and particularly dallas county are really trying to meet these candidates, one to one, meeting them in smaller settings, not just at the big rallies, so it can kind of swing both ways. >> you have had the chance to meet some of the democrats running so far.
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have you had a chance to meet biden yet, have you heard from his campaign? >> i have heard from his campaign. i have not personally met him yet. it's still fairly early for him getting into the race and being close to polk county, which is des moines, that's usually the first stop for a lot of the candidates. and then they start to come across the state, so i would imagine it won't be long until joe biden comes to dallas county. >> let's talk about the issues in the race because you told the "the new york times" something that i thought was fascinating and important. you said that the generational divide would be the biggest division in my eyes, your eyes, leading into the caucus and primary season. why is that, bryce? >> well, you look at this primary field of candidates, and they range from 37 years old, well into 70 years old, that is three, if not almost four generations of individuals and ideas and mind sets, so when you
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look at kind of how we can look at policy and there's only so many ways we can look at health care, for example, and education funding and things like that. so then we have to start looking at kind of their personal characteristics and what they bring to the table, so i see that as being a big factor for leading into caucus primary season. >> in your mind, does that mean that the democratic candidate needs to, i don't know, is there an age limit, do you think, in your view in the caucuses this time around, an age gap, that the candidate needs to be under 40 or under 50 or not in their 70s? >> i don't know that there's necessarily an age gap. i think age can be looked at a physical number and also kind of that mentality and policy mind. what you plan to bring to the table as that candidate. some people look at maybe the established candidate, like the joe biden of the race, being
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someone who remembers everything and how it always used to be, and then you have the other side of the spectrum, like mayor pete buttigieg who is relatively new to national politics, and what that means is that maybe he brings a different vision or idea to maybe get things working in a different way than maybe they always have. >> bryce, right now you've got joe biden in iowa, he's in the lead, he's the front runner. you have sanders and pete buttigieg behind him. how wide open do you see the field right now? i mean, how many people do you come across in dallas county? how many people are you coming across who says that they have landed on their candidate of choice? >> i think a lot of people who are obviously going to be caucusing right now are really trying to meet and understand all of these different candidates, with over 20 in the race, there is still a lot of time to be able to meet these
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folks, hear from them, understand why they're running, what policies they're running on, but most importantly, i don't think a lot of people are ready to make a decision on who they're going to support this early. especially with this many people in the race and not all of them being able to get to dallas county or to our area just quite yet. so that's a big impact. >> it will be great to see how things change. we'll check back in with you as the time ticks on. as we always say, it is still quite early. good to see you, bryce, thank you. >> yep, thank you. we have breaking news, the supreme court is making two big decisio decisions, handing down two big decisions on abortion, we're going to tell you what they are, and also the big question now, what does it mean for roe v. wade, that's next. your allergy pills? it fm flonase sensimist relieves all your worst symptoms, including nasal congestion, which most pills don't. and all from a gentle mist you can barely feel. flonase sensimist. you can barely feel.
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the supreme court handing down an important decision this morning. this has to do with an indiana law that would put new restrictions on abortion. cnn's new supreme court reporter joins me now. lay out what the court said this morning. >> reporter: right, kate. well, we've been waiting for weeks to see how the supreme court would deal with two provisions of this indiana law, and today we found out and got some clues for the future, but first of all the court allowed one provision of the law to go into effect, and that says that states can mandate that fetal remains be buried or cremated. opponents said that that increases the psychological costs on women, and they said that there was no real reason for the law, but the supreme court allowed that to go into effect. however, on the other hand, the supreme court left in place a lower court opinion that it
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blocked a more restrictive provision, and that provision said that the states can prohibit abortion based solely on race, sex or disability of the fetus, so that right now won't go into effect. this was an unsigned opinion from the court, kate, but what was interesting about it is justice clarence thomas wanted to make a couple of things clear. he said that he agreed with what the court had done today, but he thought that that more strict provision might in fact be a good law in the future, but it should percolate more in the lower courts. >> real quick. with this, does the court -- is the court tipping its hand at all on how it might decide on "roe v. wade" if that question was before them again? >> well, for sure opponents of abortion had something to praise today and something that they weren't so happy about, but here's what's really important. these provisions today were much less strict than some other provisions that are currently passing in courts or in states
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across the country, alabama, mississippi, those are near total bans on abortion, and so today the supreme court may have taken a small step, right? it allowed one. the it allowed a block to remain in place in other, but that doesn't mean that other petitions won't really start coming to the courts in the days and weeks ahead, and the supreme court is going to be asked to overturn, practically overturn "roe v. wade," so that's the future. today a small step, but more cases are coming down the pike. >> more to come. thanks for laying it out. really appreciate it. coming up still, search and rescue teams are on the ground digging through the aftermath after a string of tornadoes tear through ohio. cnn is on the ground. that's next. my insurance rates are probably gonna double. but dad, you've got allstate. with accident forgiveness they guarantee your rates won't go up just because of an accident. smart kid. indeed. are you in good hands?
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welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. thank you for sharing your day with us. the supreme court sidesteps two cases that would put abortion and transgender rights on its 20 to election year docket, but conservative justice clarence thomas writes the high court can't wait too long before addressing the scope of "roe v. wade." plus, the president due back in washington soon from a quick weekend hop to japan. a very different time zone but a very consistent twitter focus, joe biden. and montana governor steve


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