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step up. >> will the strategy slow migration or simply hurt americans' pocketbooks. acting secretary of the department of homeland security kevin mcaleenan is here. plus, read my lips. robert mueller speaks. >> we would not reach a determination one way or the other. >> democratic calls for impeachment grow. do voters agree? hello, i'm jake tapper in washington where the state of our union is once again grieving after a mass shooting. overnight what has become tragically familiar sight, mourners gathering to remember innocent people gunned down in a mass murder, this time in virginia beach where 12 people were shot to death at the virginia municipal center. the gunman, a public utilities employee wielding who handguns purchased legally.
this latest massacre is calling to front and center gun control, an issue front and center at the democratic primaries. on saturday 2020 democratic candidates gathered in california for that state's democratic party convention. one of the 2020 candidates, senator cory booker, threw out his planned convention speech and delivered an entirely new one focused on ending gun violence. and democratic presidential candidate senator cory booker from new jersey joins me live from san francisco. thanks for joining us. you said yesterday, mass shootings cannot continue in our country. you unveiled a comprehensive gun reform plan. atf says the two weapons used in the attack were handgun, not semi-automatic assault rifles. they say they were purchased legally. how would your plan have stopped this tragedy if at all? >> well, jake, again this is a tragedy today. but you know that every single
day in the united states of america in the aggregate we have mass shootings that go on in neighborhoods like mine. i live in an inner city black and brown community. you were there yourself. moments after you left, we had another shooting in my neighborhood. we're not helpless to stop this. this is a uniquely american problem. we have carnage at levels that no other nations see. more dying in my lifetime due to gun violence. more from the revolutionary war until now. this idea that we are helpless to stop this, evidence points differently. we know everything likely dropping licensing like connecticut did, dropped gun violence by 40%, suicides by 15%. we know there are communities like oakland that did things, by treating gun violence like a public health problem and investing in communities and empowering them, they were able to lower gun violence. i have a comprehensive plan that people say is bold. but i'll tell you what, it's not
bold. it's common sense evidence-based things we can do to lower gun violence. we are not helpless. >> but you -- you keep saying -- i'm sorry to interrupt, but you keep saying, we're not helpless. what would have prevented this tragedy? that's one of the issues that people wonder about. when there are these horrible tragedies. what steps specifically would have stopped the massacre in virginia beach? >> you've taken a look at 16, 17 things we have in my plan that would drop the levels of vie leps overall, from one handgun a month laws, all the way to investing in the kind of mental health and the kind of community empowerment strategies that would do something about it. in the aggregate, we can do things that dramatically lower the levels of violence in our community. we've allowed this debate to be framed by the corporate gun lobby that has so eroded common sense, that even stopping the cdc having money to study this problem, from stopping consumer product safety commissions
having the ability to regulate in this space. so, enough is enough. we can do so much more. >> i hear you not talking about this specific massacre, but talking about gun violence in general. so let's talk about your proposals in general. you've called for federal gun licenses that would require fingerprints, an interview, a gun safety course. i want you to listen to former vice president joe biden who seemed skeptical about your proposal when he was asked about it in new hampshire. take a listen. >> i don't know under the terms of the constitution if we're able to do that. my guess is we could, but i think there's a lot of things we can do directly now. that's not going to change -- gun licensing will not change whether or not people buy weapons, what kind of weapons they buy, how they can use them, how they store them. >> is vice president biden correct, that gun licenses ultimately is not what's going to help here? >> there are states that have
done this that have seen precipitous drops in gun violence. we need to start looking at the things that work. i'm -- enough of excuses. there are millions of americans that live now in fear, fear of letting their kids go to school, fear of going to their house of worship, fear of walking in their own neighborhoods. we need to have a much more courageous empathy for others that are dealing with this crisis instead of waiting until it visits upon our neighborhood, our community, our mosque, our concert. we can do things about this problem. we know it. the only thing that seems to be lacking is a sense of moral urgency. but unfortunately after what happened in virginia beach, you see that growing. so i'm sorry. you have your choice in this presidential campaign of a lot of folks. if you want someone who is going to take a fight on this issue, take a fight to the corporate gun lobby, take a fight against apathy and indifference, take a fight against the nra, i'm your person. being a person who lives in a
community where on fourth of july you see children that react to fireworks with fear, hiding under beds, hiding in closets because of the post-traumatic stress that happens in neighborhoods where you see shrines to dead kids on street corners. i'm an african-american male, 6% of the nation's population but we make up over 50% of the gun violence victims. this is something that's going on all around our nation. enough is enough. i'm bringing a fight to this. we will win this fight. >> you didn't specifically criticize vice president biden. it sounds as though you're saying you would fight more than he would. let me ask you because the obama/biden administration, you're proposing something very bold, in your words, perhaps far-reaching, certainly. president obama, vice president biden, they were not able to get even modest gun control measures through congress when they were in office after sandy hook.
my question for you is, how are you going to do it? even if you're elected president, you might not have a vee stow-proof majority in the house and senate. and if you do have that, you might have a lot of democratic members who come from states where gun rights are very important, such as montana. how will you be able to get something passed where obama and biden were not able to? >> this echoes to me the civil rights movement where civil rights legislation passed time and time again. the longest filibuster in the senate was strom thurmond trying to stop civil rights legislation from happening. people said it couldn't be done. there were states standing firmly against it. you know what happened is we had leaders that called to the moral imagination of our country, called to the conscience of our nation, built the coalitions necessary to tear down segregation. here we have a nation that has untold levels of carnage and violence and shootings every single day, suicides. 90 to 100 people dying every single day.
i believe just because we failed in the past doesn't mean we will fail in the future. i believe it takes grit and fight and will, and we can muster that in the united states to do common sense things that do not take away people's second amendment rights. the only people that should be afraid of the kind of legislation i'm pushing are gun runners, criminals and the corporate gun lobby. >> senator, i do want to ask you about impeachment after special counsel robert mueller spoke this week. you came out and tweeted that congress should begin impeachment proceedings immediately against president trump. i'm a little confused because mueller didn't really say anything on wednesday that he hadn't written in his report. what made you change your thinking? >> well, it was a few weeks of seeing a president who wants to undermine constitutional intent and say he's above the law. he's not been complying with subpoenas. he's not been complying with legitimate congressional inquiries to continue the
investigation that mueller very specifically said, it's on congress now to continue -- after he put this report forward, that clearly indicated that there is potential corruption and obstruction of justice. this president is not above the law. he should not be able to stop the checks and balances on the executive. i feel like we have a moral obligation now to investigate this president. impeachment proceedings will give us more legal leverage to be able to get the information congress needs to get to the bottom of what his administration has done while they're in office. >> senator cory booker live in san francisco, thanks for joining us this morning. we appreciate it, sir. >> thank you for having me. many of the president's own advisers oppose his plan to impose stiff tariffs on mexico. the acting secretary of homeland security kevin. mcaleenan will join us exclusively to defend that policy. another 2020 presidential candidate is opening up about a topic formerly considered taboo, mental health. his exclusive interview about
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i'm jake tapper. president trump tweeted this morning that mexico is, quote, an abuser of the united states. the president is vowing to impose steep new tariffs on mexican goods beginning in just over a week if mexico does not stop the growing number of migrants crossing the southern border into the united states. the plan drew immediate criticism from members of the president's own party. it could raise the prices you pay on goods on things from cars to televisions to avocados. joining me, acting secretary of the department of homeland security, kevin mcaleenan. mr. acting secretary, thanks for joining us. we have a lot to talk about. i want to start with the massacre in virginia beach. the latest data shows the highest number of u.s. gun deaths in nearly 40 years. about two-thirds are suicides, but also includes about 15,000 homicides, much higher than the number of deaths from terrorists or undocumented immigrants. you are the acting cabinet member in charge of keeping us safe in the homeland. is it time for dhs to start looking at gun violence differently than it does now, as part of your job?
>> let me first say our hearts go out to the community of virginia beach, all the victims and families. this is a community that's very well prepared. we've done four workshops and trainings with virginia beach on active shooter. i know the investigation is proceeding with the fbi and atf's help. we want to do the best we can to support communities to get in front of these issues, to identify anything we can see to prevent this kind of violence up front. >> does that include guns and the kind of gun violence problem that really only exists in this magnitude in the united states? >> we're focused on the violence regardless of the ideology or motivation and regardless of the means to carry it out. >> let's turn to the tariffs. president trump is poised to issue a new 5% tariff on goods from mexico, he's doing this he says trying to get mexico to take seriously the problem of undocumented immigrants crossing
the border. they're not even mexican migrants generally speaking. one overarching philosophy you clearly hold on immigration, the countries in central and south america are strong, if they have strong economies, strong security, that will be good for the united states because there will be fewer migrants coming into the united states. these tariffs are designed to hurt mexico economically. won't they just exacerbate the problem, if things go bad economically in mexico, wouldn't more people come in and cross the southern border illegally? >> we have a situation we have to address in partnership with mexico. on wednesday morning at 4:15 a.m., a group of 1,036 migrants walked across the border out of organized movement out of shelters. nobody on the mexican side interdicted that. at any given moment we have 100,000 moving through mexico. there are transportation choke points. there are natural choke points. this movement is overt.
it's happening on commercial bus lines owned and controlled by cartels. we need mexico to step up and do more. these crossings into mexico are happening on a 150-mile stretch of their southern border. this is a controllable area. we need them to put their authorities down there and interdict these folks before they make this route all the way to the u.s. >> i'm not disputing the idea that mexico and the mexican government need to do more. obviously they could do more. but tariffs will make mexico and mexicans struggle, and then more people will cross the border. that's the question. won't this make your job tougher? >> bottom line for me is we need them at the table looking at new strategies we can aggressively move out on. operationally we've had great partnerships with mexico in the past but 1,000 people a day when we're apprehending 4500 a day is not making an impact. we need more >> i guess one of the questions i would have is assuming these tariffs go through, and right
now it's just a threat, what specific benchmark are you going to be looking at to see if mexico is actually doing what you want them to do, you want them to secure the border with guatemala, stop smugglers, work on asylum reform. in april 109,000 according to dhs crossed the border illega y illegally. you said the number is higher in may. >> it will be higher. >> would it need to be 50,000 as opposed to 109,000 from april. >> i think what the president said, the white house has made clear, we need a vast reduction in the numbers crossing. i outlined three things i'd like to work on with mexico, one, interdictions on their southern border, going after those transporting these migrants, keeping them in horrible conditions through mexico, and number three, partnering and coordinating on asylum and how we treat people that actually need protections coming from central america and elsewhere around the world. on they're safe in mexico. they're able to apply in a full and fair proceeding. mexico has reached out and offered refugee status since the
president has been in office. that should be the place in mexico to request that. >> i want to ask about a new report from your general at dhs about an el paso border patrol facility. rooms were overcrowded, up to six times their capacity resulting in standing-room-only conditions, making detainees stand on toilets to get room to breathe. president trump has called on using funds from the pentagon to pay for his border wall. know you want congress to pass the money you need to expand the facilities for children and for adult migrants, but until they do, would you like to see president trump use some of the money he's using from dod to build the wall to help you with these facilities? >> first of all, i've been talking about my concerns about our conditions in our facilities and whether they're appropriate -- >> for months and months. >> since last year. >> absolutely. >> testified on it in december, march. went down to the border and said it's at an emergency point. it's breaking.
our conditions are not appropriate. i could not agree more with the findings that we need a solution to change this. we have solutions on the table with congress. you mentioned the supplemental, $4.5 billion, 3.3 is to take better care of children in federal custody. not for dhs, for hhs, health and human services. we need that funding from congress immediately. we put solutions on the table that would prevent this from happening in the first place. we need help from congress to do this effectively. we're not resting on our laurels. i just got back from guatemala, trying to address this at the point of origin, trying to get kids out of the cycle in the first place. we've got a lot going on. but we need this funding from congress so that we can provide better care for people in our facilities. >> you want this $4 billion from congress, and we'll ask jim clyburn about that later. but until you do, since president trump sees this money as very fungible, would you like to see him use that money to help with facilities so you don't have inspector general
reports in the future like the one you just got? >> we're working with dod. they'll help with 7,500 additional spaces to prevent people from being too crowded. we've put up 1,000 temporary facility spaces on the border in texas. we'll add arizona this month. we're driving as hard as we can to provide a better scenario. >> six children have died in custody, six migrant children have died in government custody since september, including a 16-year-old boy who died after spending a week at a dhs facility in texas. we know undocumented children are being held in dhs custody longer than the legal 72-hour maximum. what's the longest you've been holding some of these children? >> the longest cases will be when someone has gone to the hospital and spent time in hospital care. they're still technically in our custody, but not in a border patrol station during that time. i think what we're concerned about is the average hours in custody is increasing. that's why hhs needs this funding. they need to be able to buy additional beds, especially for teenage males which is the number one demographic crossing
right now unaccompanied as children. we need to be able to move people very quickly to hhs custody to a better situation. >> so for people that don't know, hhs is the one -- that's the government agency charged with taking care of the migrant children. >> correct. >> whether the ones that were separated from their parents in the past, a policy that i don't think is going on any locker. >> it's not. >> or the ones who are unaccompanied. a statement from hhs to abc news says its shelters have beds available and ready to receive these unaccompanied migrant children when processed by dhs. so, they say they have some beds available. >> so, just to clarify this and make it very clear. we have 2,300 children in custody right now. >> unaccompanied minors. >> in custody. hhs has on any given day 300 to 400 beds available. yes, we're moving kids to their beds every single day but we have more in custody than they have capacity for. that's why they asked congress for supplemental $3.3 million to increase their capacity on bed.
>> last quick question. the u.s. is on track to have more than a million undocumented immigrants enter the country this year. of that million, how many do you think are dangerous individuals? 500,000 of the million? 1,000 of the million? how many? >> last year we apprehended 17,000 criminals at the border an additional 808 known gang members. >> 808. >> yes. that was about half the crossing level we're facing today. the other challenge we have is our humanitarian mission, processing these families is pulling our agents off the line. 40% of our agents are involved in processing and care of families and children, not on the borderline. we don't even know what we're missing with confidence. we need to be out there on the line, securing the border against those trying to evade capture, smugglers bringing the drugs across and potential criminals and gang members in that flow. >> acting secretary mcaleenan, thank you for your time. we appreciate it. >> thank you. coming up next, many of the brave military men and women coming home from war are
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revealing the unseen effects of his military service. here's my exclusive conversation with congressman and 2020 presidential candidate seth moulton about his struggles with post-traumatic stress. >> post-traumatic stress can manifest itself in many, many different ways. how does yours manifest itself? >> after i got back from the war, there were times when i woke up with cold sweats, when i had flashbacks and would have bad dreams. there are times when i just couldn't get through a day without thinking about some of the experiences that i went through. my story is one of success because i got help for it. i decided to go talk to somebody, to see a therapist, and now those issues are under control. now i control when i want to think about these things. they're still very emotional. they'll stay with me for the rest of my life. but i have a handle on them. >> people don't discuss it.
there's still a stigma about it. are you worried at all that coming forward as a presidential candidate saying you have post-traumatic stress, that that could be used against you and might cause voters to be concerned? >> absolutely. candidly, that's why i haven't talked about it before. i'm someone that talks about the importance of courage, the value of courage in our politics, so much could be better in washington if both politics on both sides of the aisle just had the courage to do the right thing. i admit, this is a place i did not have the courage to share my own story because i was afraid of the political consequences. >> tell me, if you would, what was tough for you in terms of what you now deal with and what you've been dealing with since you left the marines.
what was it -- i don't want to probe too much because i don't want to ask anything you think is inappropriate. i want to be sensitive to this. but is it the action of taking a life? is it survivor's guilt from a battle buddy that didn't make it home? is it the carnage of war? what -- what exactly is your pts rooted in? >> all those things. i've experienced all those things, all three. there are a lot of stories i've never shared. but one i decided to share for the first time this week is from when we were on the third or fourth day of the invasion heading north towards baghdad, and the iraqi army and some special forces were attacking us heading south. and there were a number of vehicles heading south. the marines just a few hundred yards ahead of us shot up some cars and buses that they thought were full of enemy troops, but
at least one car was an iraqi family just fleeing the violence. and we came upon this car that careened off the side. the parents were obviously dead, but there was a boy, probably about 5 years old, lying in the middle of the road, wounded and writhing in pain. at that moment i made one of the most difficult decisions of my entire life which was to drive around that boy and keep pressing the attack because to stop would have stopped the entire battalion's advance, it would have endangered the lives of dozens if not hundreds of marines. but there is nothing i wanted to do more at that moment than just get out of my armored vehicle and help that little kid. there was a time when i got back from the war when i couldn't get through a day without thinking about that 5-year-old boy and leaving him in the middle of the
road. that's why i decided to talk to someone and get help. i'll remember his face till the day that i die, but at least i can control when i think about it, when i think about him. >> you feel guilty? >> of course. but i'll never forget him. it was the first time in the war, certainly not the last, but the first time i came face-to-face with the brutal inhumanity of war. you know what? i think that having seen that, having experienced it and having dealt with it has made me stronger. it's certainly made me a better father. i think about that boy sometimes when i see my 7-month-old daughter.
>> that was carnage caused by the americans. that kid's pain and that kid losing his parents. how does that affect, if at all, the way you as a member of congress think about the role of the united states in the world, as we like to think of ourselves in the united states as a force for good. >> it makes me a lot more thoughtful and careful about making these decisions. it makes me take my role on the armed services committee incredibly seriously. it makes me think a lot about the responsibilities that i will have if i'm the next commander-in-chief. >> you talk to a therapist once a month as a check-in? >> i keep in touch with my therapist, the one who helped me through all this because i think it's healthy.
it's good practice. it's just like when you get a physical and the doctor says you should go to the gym, go on run, eat healthy. that's exactly what i believe about mental health care. that's why i'm introducing these policy goals, to talk about making sure that every soldier, sailor, airman and marine, gets regular mental health care checkups just like they get physicals, that it becomes routine, both for active duty and veterans at the va. i hope that will be a model for the rest of the country. that's why, if i'm elected president, i'll make sure every high schooler in america gets to get a checkup with a mental health care professional, and not only that, but learn how to proactively take care of themselves. i've become a devotee of yoga and meditation. i've learned that a lot of the
top leaders in the world, the top ceos in america believe in that, too. >> president trump recently announced he's sending another 1,500 troops to the middle east. this comes amid the trump administration talking about the increased threat from iran. what do you make of all that? >> i think it's incredibly dangerous. >> to send those troops? >> the parallels between how the bush administration pushed us into war with iraq and how the trump administration under a draft-dodging commander-in-chief is pushing us into war with iran are uncanny. i think there's a parallel with vietnam with what bolton and pompeo are trying to do, is put enough troops in the gulf that there's a good chance there will be the kind of interaction, altercation that set off vietnam, that that will set off war with iran. it's been very clear from things that the secretary of state in
particular has said that that's what he hopes happens t. bottom line is we have a commander-in-chief who is not tough enough, doesn't have the credibility to stand up to these chicken hawks. >> who are you calling a chicken hawk specifically? >> well, john bolton. he's one who pushed us into war in iraq. he's trying to push us into war in iran. look, if you saw a definition of chicken hawk in a dictionary, you'd see donald trump and john bolton right next to each other. i think we all know who is the chicken and who is the hawk. >> you fought in iraq even though intellectually you opposed the war. joe biden was in the senate at the time. he voted to go to war in iraq. was that a mistake? does that say something about his judgment? >> i have a lot of respect for joe biden. he's a mentor and a friend, but i do think it's time for the
generation that fought in iraq and afghanistan to step in for the generation that september us there. >> was it a mistake for him to vote to go to war in iraq? >> well, i wasn't in the senate at the time. i'm not going to say that. >> i'm sorry. that's a copout because you were on the front lines. you have more of a right to make a judgment about that vote than anyone i've interviewed. >> okay. jake, it was a mistake. we should have been a lot more careful about going to iraq. we should have questioned the intelligence. we should have made sure that we exhausted every opportunity before we put young american lives in danger. >> tune in tonight to three cnn presidential candidate town halls including congressman seth moulton who will speak at 6:00 p.m. eastern only on cnn. this weekend the democratic presidential candidates aren't eating fried pork on a stick in iowa. they're in sunny california. how that state's early voting date is shaping the primary race. that's next.
turns out she moved to britain. >> a lot of people are moving here. what can i say? no, i didn't know she was nasty. >> president trump telling a british newspaper he didn't know that the now duchess of sussex, meghan markle, quote, was nasty when he was asked about comments she made about him during the campaign. she said she'd move to canada if he was ee lengthed. the president now claiming he didn't say that she was nasty. he tweeted this morning, quote, i never called meghan markle nasty. let's discuss.
mayor gillam. >> i don't know where to begin. unfortunately, the president calling a woman nasty is not news now. especially when it comes to women of color. the president's made a habit of referring to people who disagree with him, women who disagree with him, as nasty. i think it's unfortunate. i'm hopeful that he will get his act together as he heads into britain for this state visit. i've got nothing but respect for meghan markle. i'm hopeful that he'll maybe make an apology to her husband when he sees her later this week. >> congresswoman, he did go on to say some very, very nice things about her. he did praise her. but he also did say, i didn't know she was nasty. >> look, i'm not going to speculate by what he did. if you read the whole piece, he talks about her calling him nasty. i don't know the rest of that sentence if he would have completed it.
what i've got to say is we've got to get civil across the board of this just going back and forth with each other in a way that i don't think we would teach our children that. this is on both sides of the aisle for me. you know i'm no longer in the political realm, but even when i was, i will hold both sides accountable for how we talk to one another. and i think the civility is just really poor across both sides of the aisle. >> this is something you talk about. >> i do. i talk about this. in some ways i'm a little annoyed with meghan also. here she is in great britain and she's living her life and to -- she talked about the 2012 elections and how there was a gender gap in terms of voting, women voted for the democrat candidate. it was the same number for president trump, by the way. if you go back to 2008, that number was actually larger with about 13% of women voted for barack obama versus mccain. it had nothing to do with the
president, it has to do with the fact that they need to do a better job voting and reaching out to women voters. i was annoyed, too. if you think about it, if you're going to come after somebody, you have to make sure -- you have to receive it also. i'm want okay with anybody on any side going out and not being respectful. if you're going to say that somebody is a mysogenist, you have to expect -- >> except in his case he. and the evidence is around what he's done it's like we forgot what we learned in kindergarten. say nice things. if you don't have nice things to say, don't say it at all. i hold the president to the same standards as i hold everyone. >> there's no equivalency whatsoever between her legitimate kra seek of the president and -- >> i think we should hold the president to a higher standards.
the are previous adults have been the adult in the room. he's going into london at a critical time in the uk with brexit. he's inserted himself into the to tory party and given advice to the british government to default on the 50 billion pound commitment to get out of brexit. that's not exactly leadership. the sad part is the president said he didn't say it. there's a tape. 65% of the country will listen -- >> don't you agree -- >> 65% of the country will believe that he said it and it was wrong. 35% of the country will believe what donald trump says, that he didn't say it. even though he's heard the tape. >> the trump campaign put it out. >> they knew like in george
orwell's "1984," up is down, black is white and something very wrong with our politics. >> i want to move on to the fact that most of the democratic party running for president, which is most of the democratic party, is -- >> are you announcinannouncing? >> was in california this weekend. they moved it up. it's a super tuesday state now. and one of the questions i have is this is senator kamala harris's backyard. there was a lot of support for her in that room but there was support for liz warren, bernie sanders, cory booker. she does not have the state sewn up. >> the delegation was over to the left. it was a pretty big bernie group on that side. california will be a very, very competitive state. it will be incredibly important given its placement in the calendar. what i thought more interesting
coming out of what was going on the past couple of days in california is what was happening with hickenlooper. the fact that he would get up in a room like that and basically parrot a republican trope basically saying we're not going to win by electing a socialist. >> here's the kol coming governor john hickenlooper disavowing socialism. take a listen. >> we know it is it absolutely essential to beat donald trump. let me be clear. if we want to beat donald trump, socialism is not the answer. i was re-elected -- >> let me tell you what they're responding to. they're responding to the fact there's not a single democrat, and there's a bunch running as socialist. social democracy -- >> social democrat. >> social democracy is different than socialism. we need to our job on educating
people -- >> if you're talking about policies that represent or mirror socialism, especially when you listen to bernie sanders and you listen to those policies, they do. there are people in the room that think that's the answer. they go back to different governing bodies that have socialist policies. there were some people there saying, that's the way we should go. i don't agree with that i think he was right. if anybody wants to beat donald trump right now, i'm telling you socialism, social policy is not the way to go. >> 20-plus people running for president. that is not what is parroted from any one of us. that is a republican trope, went into a democratic room, repeated it and i find it extremely unfortunate. >> i think it is a republic trope but an important statement to make. if the republicans are able to
brand a democrat as a socialist, then they'll be very successful. now, none of them are, but i think it is important to go in -- and i give hickenlooper credit from going in and saying, that's not right. he might not have said it precisely right but it is important. >> younger people when they hear, well, let's have everybody totally even, everybody should get their part, take from this person and give to another, make sure everybody is equal. that is not what this country was founded upon. it's not what we've been successful upon. i come from a background where i had to work my way up. and good, hard work brings character. this whole thing about sharing and making sure everybody has exactly the same thing is not what we've been founded upon. >> all right. we have to go. this could -- we could continue on this for a long, long time. the navy was asked to hide the name of the "uss john mccain" to avoid upsetting
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revered politicians? >> we made america great again. >> perhaps his intelligence community could come up with some high-tech glasses, ones that make him see everyone he meets as more supportive, we can call them pence-nez. >> president trump's leadership inspires me every day. our president is a man with broad shoulders. i want to thank you, mr. president. >> and, of course, there's a less high-tech option, bubble wrap. >> i feel very comfortable. >> president trump causing controversy over his state visit to the u.k. stay with us.
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this is "gps," the global public square. welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zakaria. today on the show, the president meets the queen. ♪ trump is about to embark on a state visit to britain, a nation beset by brexit bedlam. then he'll travel to europe, a divided and politically conflicted continent. we'll preview the trip and the hornets nest he'll be walking into. also, 30 years since this haunting photo. 30 years since chinese troops