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that she is focused on saying only what she must, staying on message, providing a message that puts unity first, regardless of her personal stake. now, that is something worthy of repeating. thank you for watching. cnn tonight with d. lemon right now. >> we were like, say what? did he say if the president was more of a queen. you said more like a queen. >> more like the queen, d. lemon, the queen. look at you. don't hurt yourself laughing at your own jokes, d. lemon. >> that would be better too. i mean, i feel the same way you feel, sorry. >> you are something. listen, i'm just saying, i'm not a royal person, i'm not an ang lo -- he seems to love them. >> i feel the same way about royalty. i don't get the whole thing. i'm not enamored with it.
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i don't get it. i did enjoy going to meghan markle's wedding, it was interesting. but i get it. i think it would be better, too, if he at least would show some dignity. he shows no dignity. he has no couth or class. money does not buy class. if he did he would not act the way he does. he would not -- he wouldn't be -- there wouldn't be a controversy about calling someone nasty. people with dignity don't do that. people with class don't do that. oh, omit her comments. still, don't do it. you're the president of the united states, you should be above that. you shouldn't be calling people, like the mayor of london, a total loser or whatever. i did that -- actually, i didn't do that. i knew people around me who did it in grade school. >> it's so unlike where he grew up too. i have to tell you. >> really? >> we had another queens guy.
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and i have to tell you, i'm telling you, you did not run your mouth like that. if you were the big man, if you were proud of yourself, if you felt good about yourself, if you were confident, you never punched down. that's why i let you say whatever you want. i'm not going to smack you around like i could because, you know, it's not what the bigger man does. he never acts like the bigger man. don't tell me you're scrappy again. >> i'm rubber and you're glue, you know what i'm saying. >> what i'm saying is, he's going at the mayor of london. why, why, why take that fight, you're president of the united states. >> i don't get it. i don't get it when he tweets about us. if i was president of the united states, i would be like, who, that guy on cnn who has no fashion innocence and the toupee at 9:00 eastern time. >> that's me you're talking about. >> i don't care what he says about me. who gives a crap.
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i'm president of the united states. >> standing next to the queen and talking about coming on our somehow. he disparages cnn because he gets there and he's like, wait a minute. he forgets the worldwide power of cnn, over 200 countries around the world, he likes to think it's like maybe the "new york post," i'm not disparaging the "new york post," which is a local new york paper. he probably thinks it's an american institution and then all of a sudden he gets out of america and he is reminded of the power and the presence of cnn all over the world and he can't stand it. it drives him crazy. >> so much so he calls for the boycott of a company. we've not seen an american president do that before. there are certain examples of people doing things in wartime, but not like this. john kennedy, president kennedy did cancel his subscription to a newspaper because he was pissed off at what they were saying about him but to boycott a company. saying he's just joking.
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when does the president have to be responsible about his own mouth. >> they call it trump-splaining. good, old fashioned gaslighting. thank you, did you get your boat fixed? >> nope. you love that, d. lemon -- >> can i tell them what happened? we're coming back this weekend, i'm driving back with my fiance and the dogs and we're like, is that chris and we look at chris, the tow is pulling them into the harbor. >> loved it, the guy was great. >> i haven't had to use them yet. >> not the biggest man in the room. i thought my son was going to jump into your boat. he was like, don. >> no, it happens. >> sucks when it's you. >> i was not happy seeing that. >> you were like these are rich people problems. it's not like i got cancer.
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this sucks right now. anyway, do your show, pal. >> see you later. have a good night. you know, for a president who would like to believe that he is royalty this trip has got to be right up his alley, the pomp, the pageantry, the president toasted by the queen herself. >> ladies and gentlemen, i invite you all to rise and drink a toast to president and mrs. trump, to continued friendship between our two nations and to the health, prosperity and happiness of the people of the united states. >> there may be no one this president would rather stand next to than the queen. he's been impressed by the british royals since he was 6 years old. in the art of the deal, as a matter of fact, donald trump tells a story of his mother, his mother who was an immigrant from scotland who worked as a housekeeper for a time, riveted by watching queen elizabeth's coronation on tv. so it's no surprise that the president would like to believe that he is a big hit on this
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trip in particular. tweeting that. there were tremendous crowds of well wishers, and that he didn't see any protests. okay, there's a reason for that, because the streets were cleared by security before the trump motorcade passed through. but president trump started his trip to the uk with insults. okay, in fact, before air force one even touched down the president tweeted an insult at london's mayor, calling him a "stone cold loser" for being foolishly nasty to the visiting president of the united states. and speaking of nasty, there's more. listen to what the president told rupert murder ok's son's nurp -- >> meghan, who's now the duchess of sussex, she can't make it because she's got maternity leave. are you sorry to see her? she wasn't so nice about you during the campaign.
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>> i didn't know that, no. i hope she's okay. i did not know that, no. >> she said she'd move to canada if you got elected. turned out she moved to britain. >> there are a lot of people moving here. what can i say? i didn't know she was nasty. >> but you didn't hear him say that. the president would like you to believe that he didn't say what you heard him say about meghan markle, tweeting that never called her nasty. he did. putting his people out to make excuses and trying to rewrite history. that should be no surprise if they're trying to gaslight you, after all, this is a president who told you this. >> and just remember what you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening. >> and the president isn't the only one, okay, trying to gaslight you. trying to convince you to ignore what you've seen with your own
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eyes and what you've heard with your own ears. this is his son-in-law. listen to his son-in-law, also senior adviser as well, jared kushner in an interview with axios. >> alexandra ocasio c-cortez ha called president trump a racist. have you ever seen him do anything racist or bigoted? >> the answer is, no, absolutely not, you can't not be a racist for 69 years and then run for president and then be a racist. when the democrats call him a racist they're doing a disservice to people who are really racists in this country. >> was birtherism racist? >> i wasn't involved in that. >> was it racist? >> i know the president and i
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have not seen anything in him -- >> did you wish he didn't do that? >> i was not involved in that. it was a long time ago. >> wow. that was a tap dance. i wasn't involved in that. . was birtherism racist? of course it was racist, jared, you know it was, come on. it wasn't such a long time ago and, in fact, the president reportedly still believes the birther lie, behind closed doors, that's what we're told. let's never forget, this is a president who said this about deadly white supremacist violence in charlottesville. >> people that were very fine people, on both sides. you had people in that group, excuse me, excuse me, i saw this same pictures as you did. >> the president who doubled down on it again and again. this is a man who danced around the question of whether he
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disasorridisa vowed david duke, the former leader of the ku klux klan. >> i don't know what you're talking about with prior to supremacy or white supremacists. i don't know, did he endorse me or what's going on? i know nothing about david duke, i know nothing about white supremacists. you're asking me a question that i'm supposed to be talking about people that i know nothing about. i don't know david duke. i believe i've never met him, and i just don't know anything about him. >> there is an interview from, i think it was nbc, years before where he talks about david duke. but he doesn't know anything about him. this is the president who called african nations shit hole countries, who called nfl players who kneeled to -- i only
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have so much show. jared kushner is trying to gaslight you, the president is trying to gaslight you. remember when he told me this? >> are you racist? >> i am the least racist person you have ever met, i am the least racist person. >> are you bigoted in any way? >> no, i don't think so. >> that's what the president wants you to believe, he wants to gaslight you. he's trying his very best to gaslight you. are you letting him get away with it? are you going to believe him or are you going to believe what you have seen with your own eyes and what you have heard with your own ears? gaslighting. in the midst of all the royal pomp, circumstance, the president is really barging into british politics and breaking diplomatic norms and he's got another big day ahead of him. we're going to dig into that
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good evening to every one of you. michael, since you're here, i'll start with you. we all witnessed the pomp and pageantry. today we've seen when president goes over. you say this could be one of the biggest moments for this president because sitting with the queen. why is that so important to him? >> it's the moment of his life. i think he already has in his mind what the cover of "people" magazine is going to look like. >> meti is laughing. why are you laughing? >> i'm laughing because michael is right. i'm wondering what the queen is thinking. she's not laying out any photos from this trip, i can assure you. >> of course she's not. i have empathy for the president on, his mother is not alive. this would have been a great thrill for her. it's -- you know, her abject worship of the royal family was decidedly un-american and sort of unscotish.
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she came from a community that was cleared during the 19th century, the poor people were driven off the land. they didn't have any fondness for the royals. but she was transfixed by this and it's a matter of style over substance. i also think the president probably saw the kind of life he wishes he had. >> the formality. and it's sort of -- you know -- >> look at the real estate they have. it's great real estate. >> you've got the inspection of the guards, bearskin hats, the state banquet, the elaborate ceremony. and yet you have this president breaking diplomatic norms and inserting himself into uk politics. he criticized theresa may's handling of brexit. he's due to meet with her tomorrow. praising her rival. what do you make of this? >> do you remember in 2016 when
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barack obama made comments about brexit, republicans lost their minds. paul ryan attacked -- trump is pushing not just for brexit over the last year or so, but for the most catastrophic, no deal brexit. a man knows nothing about the european union giving trade advice, political advice to theresa may, encouraging her rival for a long time. boris johnson now loves donald trump, he's attacked by donald trump too. not many people in the uk actually like donald trump, even ones who pretend. and then the mayor of london, a hero now, calling out trump for the racism and fascism you so rightly identified before the break. >> there you go. and, listen, no matter who it is, the royals have a certain
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dignity and class about them. they're not going to be rude to a visiting dignitary. but i do have to say, susan, that during the queen's toast, if you listen closely, it sounded at times as if she was giving the president a mini history lesson about d day. >> after is sacrifices after the second world war, britain and the united states worked with other allies to build an assembly of international institutions so ensure that the horrors of conflict would never be repeated. while the world has changed we are forever mindful of the original purpose of these structures, nations working together to safeguard a hard won peace. >> okay, so susan, queen elizabeth not particularly
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political, she is certainly diplomatic, was she sending a message to president trump about the importance of institutions like nato and the united nations? >> the queen gets to say whatever the queen wants to say. that was deliberate and purposeful. if there is one thing that has united many europeans, it is the idea the president of the united states that the president has been attacking american alliances and institutions that the united states built up in the wake of world war ii. it's hard to say whether trump listens and ledgestersregisters listens to messages like this. i agree with michael, this is the best day of donald trump's life. the queen of england paying him the formalities of buckingham palace, my guess is he's okay with it or doesn't even register
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it unless that becomes the dominant narrative. if the tabloids in great britain tomorrow, if they say queen disses trump. it seemed to me, donald trump, if he's made them upset, all the better. he decided not to be on his best behavior today, that he could come to london and insult the mayor, that he could continue tweeting while being given a tour of buckingham palace and things like that. my guess is he doesn't really care if they like him or not, he cares that they're required to give him this state dinner. >> he's taken four of his five kids with him. they've been posting pictures all night on twitter in their tails. this is a great moment for the whole grifter family. >> wow, michael, can we talk
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more about the optics of the state banquet. the treasury secretary walked in beside kate middleton. and then jared kushner next to princess ann. the kids are there. what did you think? >> i think the british have stiff upper lips. they were enduring this. this is a state dinner to which many people declined invitation, many members of parliament refused to go and many other prominent british citizens refused to go. this is britain holding its nose as it welcomes donald trump. they're stuck with this relationship. trump has sort of tray -- tri anglated them against europe. they're in a pickle here. >> susan, are there parallels who that britain is going
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through in the wake of the brexit vote and the political dynamic since trump's election? >> one, of course strong message is political gridlock in both countries. he'll be meeting for the last time with theresa may. the final act of her prime ministership. she was unable to bring brexit to a conclusion and it's been three years since britain voted this referendum. she's not had a mandate and not been able to commend her party towards it. we were looking up at dinner tonight, the last time the congress of the united states passed all 13 appropriations bills and did the job it was elected to do in a timely fashion, it was in the 1990s, don. you know, this is a country whose government really doesn't work anymore and of course president trump has taken that and amplified it even more. he chose to shut down the
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government when congress didn't do his bidding and he didn't have the votes to force his will upon it and so, i think you see rising disillusion with democracy on both sides of the atlantic. governments are in gridlock. michael's point is important. even with the political divisions enormous in the wake of brexit, donald trump is very unpopular. that's a very interesting dynamic, right now almost in any country in europe among our historical allies, the worst thing you can do is get an endorsement from donald trump. >> thank you. i've got to go. i know you were like oh, let me get this point. >> 21% approval rating. it will kill him. >> to obama's 72%. >> 9% in france. >> there it is, 72% to 21%.
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thank you all. >> thank you. >> the president's son-in-law sitting down for a rare interview, spending a lot of time dodging questions. why he refused to say president trump's birther lie is racist, which it is.
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white house senior adviser and son-in-law of the president, jared kushner sitting down for a rare interview, but refusing to answer questions about if president trump's birther lie is racist. >> alexandra ocasio-cortez says president trump is racist. have you ever seen him do anything racist? >> no, i have not. when a lot of democrats call the president a racist i think they're doing a disservice to people who suffer because real racism in this country. >> was birtherism racist.
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>> i once involved in that. >> was it racist. >> i wasn't involved in that. >> was it racist? >> i know the president and i have not seen anything in him that was racist. >> did you wish he didn't do that? >> i was not involved in that. that was a long time ago. >> let's discuss. scott jennings. gentlemen, good evening. good to have you on. jared kushner refused to answer whether the birtherism thing, hoax, conspiracy theory, was racist or not. what's your reaction? >> we all know, first and foremost, that birtherism was and is racist. the president has yet to denounce that. the first lady of the united states has yet to denounce that
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or apologize. jared kushner, showed a lack of courage, exemplifies that. listening to that interview, you forget how mediocre he really is. he's in large of the liaison to muslim-americans, the liaison to china, to mexico. he's over the peace deal, over the opioid epidemic, over restructuring and making government more efficient. but with that portfolio, you cannot see many successes from jared kushner. it's not jared's fault as much as it is for the people who allowed him to sit down for that interview. that was not a good look for him or his p.r. people. >> he keeps repeating he wasn't involved, which has nothing to do with whether birtherism is
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racist or not. >> to expect a senior adviser to the president who is also a relative to go on television and call his father-in-law or his boss a racist is not realistic. i'm sure he's thinking what the rest of us are thinking, of course it was wrong. birtherism was hatched after barack obama was president and it infected all these people. it was embarrassing and terrible and wrong. in the campaign in september of 2016 he did recant on that and admit that barack obama was, in fact, an american citizen and that was good. but it was a terrible time. it was a terrible time for the republican party and i think frankly this whole thing cost us a chance to beat barack obama in 2012 because we didn't seem like serious people trafficking in serious ideas. >> scott, two things -- >> my view is he can't say it,
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but i can, it was wrong and i'm glad the president recanted. >> was it racist? >> yes, it is racist, not founded in any kind of facts or whatever. it was a terrible moment for us and i'm glad it's over. >> isn't that the problem though, when people say, with nepotism, as the senior adviser to the president of the united states and be honest with people about aspects of this administration and his boss who he is an adviser to? >> look, i feel the same way about him that i felt when we used to go around and around about why doesn't sarah sanders say this, that or the other. to expect a white house official to go on television and trash their boss is not a realistic expectation. >> answering the question honestly is trashing. >> failing to mention criminal justice reform, which he did oversee, which has impacted the
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lives of a lot of african-americans in this country, a great feather in his cap about the president. >> i don't understand how being honest about an aspect of someone is trashing them. telling the truth about what they did is trashing them. >> i'm just saying to expect a white house spokesperson to come on and say something that we know is going to enrage the president, it's not going to happen and it's not a realistic expectation of our modern political system. >> go ahead, bakari. >> i did overlook the criminal justice reform. we have seen modest improvements. and so jared was a part of that. it doesn't discount the fact he was part of six or seven other failures or failures to launch for other pollicy initiatives. jared didn't have any
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experience. he's married to the president's daughter. we all know that and that type of nepotism, as you've outlined, the reason people have an issue with this. if you cannot be honest with the american people about the fact that something that scott and i and you and everyone watching can agree is racist, how can he be honest about any other policy initiatives? people experience this in their lives all the time. jared kushner exemplifies what happens when mediocrity gets a pass. jared kushner is probably not in the top ten issues we have with this white house to say the least. >> thank you both. i appreciate it. some of the biggest tech companies around are going to be investigated by congress, google, apple, amazon and facebook. why some are saying the internet is broken.
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the house judiciary committee says tonights is launching a sweeping antitrust investigation of tech giants including amazon, apple, facebook and google. elie honig is here. elizabeth, the house judiciary committee says it's a top to bottom antitrust investigation involving all of the big tech companies, amazon, apple, facebook, google. how big of a deal is this? >> it's a fascinating moment of political reckoning, the trump administration and the democrats in congress, when was the last time they agreed on anything? but you have a bipartisan group of lawmakers in the house coming together and the saying that the internet companies have gotten
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too big, that they stifle competition and now we're going to see months of sprawling hearings, airing their dirty laundry. and we see the trump administration is also potentially planning probes, divvying up the tech companies to plan potential antitrust probes into their business practices as well. >> interesting. elie, i wish they could get together and get rid of the trolls on the internet. >> impossible, impossible. >> if it is ultimately determined that there are antitrust issues here for these companies because congress lacks the power to break up big tech companies or levy fines, what happens here? >> this could be really big trouble for these companies. it's really the first legal existential threat these massive companies have faced.
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the department of justice can seek antitrust penalties, damages. and can seek to break up the company as they did wiare microsoft 20 years ago. two big things congress can do, they can hold public hearings and you start to see the ceos dragged in front of cameras and that doesn't go well for those ceos. and congress can pass new laws. the antitrust laws date back to the 1800s and early 1900s. >> there's some teeth here. >> yes, these are put in place when there was steel and oil. different laws now. >> the focus isn't on any one tech company but on the broader belief that the internet is broken. a lot of people are starting to agree with that, frankly. >> i think what's actually fascinating, though, is to look at the arguments against the
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different companies because in different ways where they're each a giant piece of the internet. amazon has shopping, google as search. facebook has social networking. in my eyes the strongest case may be against google where the weakest legal case may be against facebook, but the biggest pr problem. i can't think of any other situation where the co-founder is calling to break up the company. when you look at google, they control search and they've been sued successfully several times in the eu saying they've favored their products in search over rival products. you can look at android and say they favored google apps, apps consumers love like google maps and chrome but they're going to smart phone makers and saying if you want to android operating system you better bundle in our apps, a similar argument that microsoft made back in the '90s
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as well. and then you look at a company like facebook and you say why have they been able to run rough shod over our data. that plays into antitrust too. maybe they couldn't do that if they didn't have so much market power. >> it's interesting when you think about, as an aside, this weekend i think google was down and then -- >> horror of horrors. >> tim was coming in, saying can you get on your email? you forget how they're all connected. if one thing goes down, it all does. do we have time to get to this sound bite? we don't, okay. sorry, how long can this investigation take? >> an eternity. microsoft took 12 years. this could be the beginning of a very, very long legal and political battle. >> thank you all, fascinating. we'll get you back to update when it's appropriate. more than 20 democrats are running for president and one of
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was what i call people first, police reform plan. that strikes at how we can become a fairer nation. i don't care who you are in this country, you've seen these videos over and over and over again of and places that new york city that we're in tonight have quite a history. eric garner is a great exampleple friendsh exampleple. last year the city paid out $800 million to settle claims off police musconduct. a lot of that relotted to excessive force. the point i'm make is even though we have great police officers out there and i know that because the mayor of san on theio. the system is broken and this plan is about fixing it. it ges to ending over e -- and increasing accountability to police officers and trying to nend divide that often exists
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between some neighborhoods and communities and the police. >> i want to play this for -- this is from -- this is saturday. but the big idea -- >> erick gardner and orlando castile and pamela turner? what about jason peero and kamir rice and devon clark and so many others? and antonio -- what about all those young men and women whose lives were lost because of police violence? >> you can go on and on. sandra bland's sister on just a couple weeks ago. but you got a stand ogoivation. why do you think you dpagot a response? >> call out your audio clip a
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little bit because the first part i pointed out that a few weeks ago i was in charleston, south carolina blocks away from the church where dylan roof, who was white murdered nine people while they were worshipping and a few hours later he was arrested without incident. and i said he should be apprehended without incident but what about eric gardner and so many people who have been traeted differently dispruporztly young black men? >> this is one of the issues that is going to be big issues it was last time you were on. i have a feeling it will be even more this tame. now let's talk about some other things in the news. i want to talk about the president and the tawfes he is threatening on all imports from china as punishment from mexico allowing toomany illegal
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immigrants to head to the u.s. border. >> first of all it's a stupid idea. this is grade-a dumb in terms of ideas. i thinky with can do this in a better way. it's already estimated the 5% tariff that he wants to impose on mexico cost 400,000 jobs nation wide and 100,000 of those would be in my home state of texas. and so this is the worst possible way to go about partnering with mexico and get them to do anything. in fact this is going to hurt the united states. >> the criticism is it's self defeating and counterintuitive because there will be less goods that will be made from mexico. also it's going to hurt the u.s. economy because americans will have to pay more and if it gets worse and that incentiveizes
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mexicans to possibly come across the border do it illegally. >> i think one of the reasons that today, vuses 20 years ago you see less mexicans is they're able to find more opportunity than they used to. this is kind -- this is very much going against that. but i would say we got to get baurn beyond the reactionary approach to immigration. a couple months ago i presented an immigration plan that says if you notice this guy, trump, has been a total disaster when it comes to immigration. a year ago he said if we were to separate little children from their mulgters, that would would deter more families and instead more families are come can. it is the sit ways is worse than when he took over the president presidency in 2017. so i'd say instead let's get at the root cause, invest in the marshal plan in honduras, el salvador and guatemala and the northern triangle countries,
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work with mexico so people can find safety and opportunity then instead of having to come to the united states. >> always a pleasure to see you. keep talking issues. it's important to our democratic system. we want to hear issues, ugszus, issues. good to be withia. >> good to see you. >> house speaker nancy pelosi talking about impeachment behind closed doors. i've got an idea. ooh, what is it? what if we give the people iphone 10r when they join t-mobile? for a limited time join t-mobile and get the awesome iphone 10r on us.
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this is cnn tonight. i'm don lemon. president trump is in the uk tonight. that doesn't mean his investigation troubles are behind him. we're learning the full house of representatives will vote a week from tomorrow on whether to hold the attorney general william barr in contempt of congress. that's over their refusal to comply with subpoenas. who's refused to hand over the full mueller report and don mcgahn refused to appear under subpoena last month. as the oversight committee is vetting to hold wilbur ross in contempt for refusing to supply information about how a question about citizenship ended uppen the snss and that's not all.

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