tv CNN Newsroom with Poppy Harlow and Jim Sciutto CNN June 4, 2019 6:00am-7:00am PDT
all right. good morning, everyone. of course, we're waiting for the president to speak and the british prime minister theresa may. i'm poppy harlow. >> and i'm jim sciutto. that's a live picture of 10 downing street where the prime minister's residence and office s waiting for the departure from there. they will go to the foreign commonwealth office. that's the picture on the right-hand side of your screen with those grand flags for the uk and the u.s., foreign commonwealth office rough equivalent of the state department here in the u.s. it's going to be quite a moment here. a special relationship between the two countries and i think what you can describe as a special relationship between the
british prime minister and american president. theresa may was the first foreign leader to come visit washington after trump's victory. this is actually his second visit toit uk, but first official state visit with all the pomp and circumstance sense he was president and only the third u.s. president to get such a greeting in the uk. our nic robertson is outside number 10 downing street. nick, we expected this joint news conference to start several minutes ago. are there still discussions under way or just the normal delay that often happens with official events on a trip like this? >> reporter: it seems to be, jim, just a delay that you normally get with dig events like this. we've seen a lot of people coming out of number 10 already, steve mnuchin, secretary of state mike pompeo they all came out and walk across but as they walk across the street here, it's only a few steps, the crowd outside the end of do you think street can see them. whenever somebody has been walking out of the door in the
past couple minutes big boos have been erupting from the crowd, a siren goes off. so i think we can anticipate when president trump walks across that street that the crowd will probably react to him in a similar way, it's not clear if they can actually identify him as the president but they do seem to know that he is expected to make that walk. he hasn't made it yesterday, theresa may hasn't come out of there with him yet. everyone of course eager to have questions answered during the press conference, how long will it go, how many questions, we don't know. but what we were told was that the president and theresa may wouldn't be having a one on one bilateral meeting. that they would be surrounded by cabinet members. do you know what, those cabinet members have now left and pretty much as far as we can tell they are sort of the only senior remaining dignitaries left in number 10. quite why they're waiting, what route they may take we don't know. what's what we have right now. >> nick, you've been in london
for a long time, have seen prior u.s. presidents visit the country. have you seen a reception like that before, boos for an american president? >> reporter: let's listen in. >> are you enjoying your visit, mr. president? >> so, nick, we heard a few reporters and folks trying to shout questions at the president and the prime minister as we watched them along with their teams walk over, again, to the foreign commonwealth office there. this joint press conference. nick, what did you hear on the ground? >> reporter: you know, a lot of boos coming up from the crowd, you could hear the questions. i think it was very interesting
the president waved as he walked across, he clearly felt comfortable walking side-by-side with theresa may. this is uncommon i would say for protesters to be able to get so close to when a president is here, to be able to express their opinion in this way. of course, people are free to do that but we do know the police have controlled the protests on the streets here to keep back the vast number of protesters who have been held back quite some distance from downing street. obviously the protesters have been timing their moment today to time out with this walk across because that was their opportunity to have president trump actually hear them. most of his time here in london he has been moving around by helicopter and this is perhaps his best opportunity to see them in a distance, to hear them for sure. >> and this comes in the same week that at the end of this week british prime minister theresa may who is now a lame duck will step down as the head of her party, yet the white house and of course, nick, british officials have
maintained that these talks matter, that they are substantive even though she is a lame duck prime minister. >> they're very important for the conservative party. the conservative party is the party that is taking britain out of the european union and the united states, if you will, in a trade deal with the united states, a good trade deal is the trophy of the end of all that trade between the two countries is already massive, a quarter trillion dollars between the two countries every year. so it's that that theresa may wants to build on and that's the message she needs to convey to her conservative party can deliver brexit and deliver the good relationship with the united states and approve a good free trade deal. that's what president trump is talking about as well. i think everyone knows theresa may is out of the mix for that. president trump says she should stick around and do it, but the reality is it will be another prime minister, but it will be the conservative party. >> true, and we should note that the u.s. and the uk despite their close relationship have
differences over trade. this is a president who has not been shy about holding allies as well as adversaries to count. we know the trump administration wants to push for wide access to uk agriculture, which is, of course, a major sticking point. it is not clear that the two sides are as close together as the president and prime minister may be saying at this point. our christiane amanpour joining us as well along with john king, abby phillip, john dale. tell us as you see the outgoing british prime minister standing next to the u.s. president here during turbulent times in the uk with brexit, it's just 30 seconds away but before we start what do you expect to hear? >> well, very quickly, it's awkward timing, i'm sure both will heap diplomatic praise on each other. the president did say theresa may should stick around but we know there is he's been interesting talks with the people who basically stabbed her in the back and the one vying to take over from her. there is a mixed message coming. we know no matter what the
president says about a trade deal it's not as easy as the president promising it, it requires congressional action in the united states and at the moment we have the u.s. imposing tariffs on europe which include the uk on steel, aluminum and the like. we know the two leaders are very far apart on issues like the iran nuclear deal and of course on climate change and human anyone else numbers of scientists very important people have asked the prime minister to bring up climate change front and center with the president. so those are some of the issues. >> okay. and let's just listen in here to british prime minister theresa may and u.s. president donald trump as they are approaching the electric turns here to give this joint press conference that is very significant between allies. here we go. >> this week we commemorate the
extraordinary courage and sacrifice of those who gave their lives for our liberty on d-day 75 years ago. as leaders prepare to gather here from across the world, it is fitting that we begin with a celebration of the special relationship between the united kingdom and the united states. enduring partners who stood side-by-side on that historic day and every day since. for generations at the heart of the transatlantic alliance it has been our shared democratic values, our common interests and our commitment to justice. it is that unity of purpose that will preserve the deep rooted ties between our people and underpin our nation's security and prosperity for the next 75 years and beyond. so i am very pleased to welcome the president of the united states of america on this state visit to the united kingdom.
for the past two and a half years the president and i have had the duty and privilege of being the latest guardians of this prsecious and profound friendship between our countries. as with our predecessors when we have faced threats to the securities of our citizens and allies, we have stood together and acted together. when russia used a deadly nerve agent on the streets of our country, alongside the uk's expulsions, the president expelled 60 russian intelligence officers, the largest contribution towards an unprecedented global response. and in syria when innocent men, women and children were victims of a barbaric chemical weapons attack, britain and america along with france carried out targeted strikes against the regime. since we spoke about nato during my first visit to the white house we have maintained our support for this crucial alliance. thanks in part to your clear message on burden sharing, donald, we have seen members
pledge another $100 billion, increasing their contributions to our shared security. and i'm pleased to announce that nato will soon be able to call on the uk's queen elizabeth class aircraft carriers and f-35 fighter jets to help tackle threats around the world. today we've discussed again the new and evolving challenges to our security, our values and our way of life. we share the same view about their origin and our objectives am meeting them, but like prime ministers and presidents before us and no doubt those that will come after, we can also differ sometimes on how to confront the challenges we face. i've always talked openly with you, donald, when we have taken a different approach and you've done the same with me. i've always believed that cooperation and compromise are the basis of strong alliances and nowhere is this more true than in the special relationship. today we've discussed again the importance of our two nations working together to address iran's destabilizing activities
in the region and to ensure tehran cannot acquire a nuclear weapon. although we differ on the means of achieving that as i've said before the uk continues to stand by the nuclear deal, it is clear that we both want to reach the same goal. it is important that iran meets its obligations and we do everything to avoid escalation, which is in no one's interest. recognizing our nations are safer and more prosperous when we work together on the biggest challenges of our time, i also set out the uk's approach to tackling climate change and our continued support for the paris agreement. we also spoke about china. recognizing its economic significance and that we cannot ignore action that threatens our shared interests or values. as we've deepened our cooperation on security, including our joint military operations and our unparalleled intelligence sharing, so our economies, too, are ever more tightly bound together. every morning one million americans get up and go to work
for british companies in america and one million britains do the same for american companies here. our trading relationship is worth over 190 billion pounds a year and we are the largest investors in each other's economies with mutual investments valued at as much as $1 trillion. mr. president, you and i agreed the first time we met we should aim for an ambitious free trade agreement when the uk leaves the eu and from our positive discussions today i know that we both remain committed to this. i'm also sure that our economic relationship will only grow broader and deeper, building on the conversations we had and the ideas we heard from uk and u.s. businesses when we met them earlier today. tomorrow we will sit down in portsmouth with our fellow leaders to reaffirm the enduring borns of the western alliance and the shared values that underpin it. as we look to the future, in the years and in the generations ahead, we will continue to work together to preserve the
alliance that is the bedrock of our shared prosperity and security. just as it was on the peaches of normandy 75 years ago. mr. president. >> thank you, prime minister may. melania and i are honored to return to longen as our nation he is commemorate the 75th anniversary of d-day and world war ii. we want to thank her majesty the queen who i had a lovely dinner with last night, a fantastic person. fantastic woman. for so graciously inviting us to this state visit, it was very, very special. our thanks as well to prime minister and mr. may for the warm welcome they've given the first lady and me, as we remember the heroes who laid down their lives to rescue
civilization itself on june 6th, 1944, tens of thousands of young warriors left these shores by the sea and air to begin the invasion of normandy and the liberation of europe and the brutal nazi occupation. it was a liberation like few people have seen before. among them were more than 130,000 american and british brothers in arms, through their valor and sacrifice they secured our home lands and saved freedom for the world. tomorrow prime minister may and i will attend a commemoration ceremony in portsmouth, one of the key embarkation points for the invasion. more than 1.5 million american service members were stationed right here in england in advance of the landings that summer. the bonds of friendship forged here and sealed in blood on
those hallowed beaches will endure forever. our special relationship is grounded in common history, values, customs, culture, language and laws. our people believe in freedom and independence as a sacred birth right and cher i wished inheritance worth defending at any cost. as the prime minister and i discussed in our meetings today and yesterday, the united states and the united kingdom share many goals and priorities around the world. i want to thank the people of the united kingdom for their service and partnership in our campaign to defeat isis. as we announced a few months ago, isis' territorial caliphate in syria and iraq has been completely obliterated, defeated. the united kingdom is also a key partner in nato. the prime minister and i agree that our nato allies must
increase their defense spending. we've both been working very hard toward that end and we are very current and some of them are not. we can't allow that to happen, but i appreciate everything you've done in that regard. we expect a growing number of nations to meet the minimum 2% of gdp requirement, to address today's challenges all members of the alliance must fulfill their obligations. they have no choice. they must fulfill their obligation. among the pressing threats facing our nations is the development and spread of nuclear weapons, perhaps that's our greatest threat. the united states and the united kingdom are determined to ensure that iran never develops nuclear weapons and stops supporting and engaging in terrorism. and i believe that will happen. in protecting our nations we also know that the border security is national security. today the prime minister and i
discussed our thriving economic relationship, both countries are doing very well and participated in a round table with industry and business leaders. i can say probably the biggest business leaders anywhere in the world. our nations have more than $1 trillion invested in each other's economics. the united kingdom is america's largest foreign investor and our largest european export market. that's a lot of importance. as the uk makes preparations to exit the european union, the united states is committed to a phenomenal trade deal between the u.s. and the uk. there is tremendous potential in that trade deal. i say probably two and even three times of what we're doing right now. tremendous potential. 75 years ago this thursday courageous americans and british patriots set out from this island towards history's most
important battle. they stormed forward out of ships and airplanes, risking everything to defend our people and to ensure that the united states and britain would forever remain sovereign and forever remain free. following this press conference prime minister may, mr. may, the first lady, my family and i will visit the legendary churchill war rooms beneath the streets of london. i look forward to that. in his famous speech on this day in june 1940 prime minister churchill urged his country men to defend our island, whatever the cost may be. as we mark this solemn anniversary of d-day it is in the heart of every patriot.
today let us renew our pledge engraved at the cemetery in normandy and inspired by dwight eisenhower in st. paul's cathedral right here in london that the cause for which they died shall live. prime minister may, it's been a true honor, i have greatly enjoyed working with you, you are a tremendous professional and a person that loves your country dearly. thank you very much. really an honor. thank you for the invitation to memorialize our fallen heroes and for your partnership in protecting and advancing the extraordinary alliance between the american and the british people. it's the greatest alliance the world has ever known. thank you, prime minister. thank you. thank you very much. [ applause ] >> thank you.
now, we are going to take two questions from the uk media and two questions from the american media. i will start with beth rigby. >> thank you, prime minister, president trump. from stein news. for you, president trump, as you hold talks with the current prime minister the leader of her majesty's opposition has been addressing a protest rally against your visit in trafalgar square. he says he's disappointed you attacked the london mayor and criticized your record on refugees. what do you have to say to him and is this man someone you could do a trade deal with? and to you, prime minister, do you think that sadiq kahn is a stone cold loser. thank you. >> you're talking about the mayor of london, is that who you said? yes. well, i think he has been a not very good mayor from what i understand. he has done a poor job, crime is up, a lot of problems. and i don't think he should be
criticizing a representative of the united states that can do so much good for the united kingdom. we talked about it before. he should be positive, not negative. he is a negative force, not a positive force. if you look at what he said, he hurts the people of this great country and i think he should actually focus on his job. he would be a lot better if he did that, he could straighten out some of the problems that he has and probably some of the problems that he has caused. thank you. >> [ inaudible ]. >> he wanted to meet with me and i told him no. yes. well, i don't know jeremy corbin, never met him, never spoke to him he wanted to meet today or tom and i decided that i would not do that. i think that he is -- from where i come from -- somewhat of a
negative force. i think that people should look to do things correctly as opposed to criticize. i really don't like critics as much as i like and respect people that get things done. so i have decided not to meet. as far as the protests i have to tell you because i commented on it yesterday, we left the prime minister, the queen, the royal family, there were thousands of people on the streets cheering and even coming over today there were thousands of people cheering. and then i heard that there were protests. i said where are the protests? i don't see any protests. i did see a protest today when i came, very small. a lot of it is fake news. you saw the people waving the american flag, waving your flag. it was tremendous spirit and love. there was great love. it was an alliance. i didn't see the protesters until just a little while ago and it was a very, very small group of people put in for political reasons. so it was fake news. thank you. >> and i would say to both the
mayor of london and to jeremy corbin the discussions that we have had today are about the future of this most important relationship between the u.s. and the uk. as the president described it the greatest alliance the world has seen. it is this deep special relationship and partnership between the united states and the united kingdom that ensuring our safety and security and the safety and security of others around the world, too. and it is this relationship that helps to ensure there are jobs that employ people here in the uk and in the united states that underpins our prosperity and our future. that is a relationship we should cherish, it is a relationship we should build on, it is a relationship we should be proud of. >> very big and this really is a very big and important alliance and i think people should act positively toward it because it means so much for both countries. means so much and it's been so good. steve holland. go ahead, steve.
>> thank you, mr. president. is that on? there. what is your current view on brexit, sir, should britain leave the european union if there is no agreement by october 31st? and for the prime minister what would be the ramifications for the uk if there is not a deal? >> well, i don't like to take positions in things that i'm not, you know, really -- i understand the issue very well, i really predicted what was going to happen, some of you remember that prediction, it was a strong prediction, made at a certain location on a development we were opening the day before it happened and i thought it was going to happen because of immigration more than anything else, but probably it happens for a lot of reasons. but i would say, yeah, i would think that it will happen and it probably should happen. this is a great, great country and it wants its own identity. it wants to have its own borders. it wants to run its own affairs. this is a very, very special place and i think it deserves a
special place. i thought maybe for that reason and for others, but that reason it was going to happen. yeah, i think it will happen and i believe the prime minister has brought it to a very good point where something will take place in the not too distant future. i think she's done a very good job. i believe it would be good for the country, yes. >> and from my point of view i believe it is important for us to deliver brexit. we gave that choice to the british people, parliament overwhelmingly gave the choice to the british people we should now deliver on that choice. i continue to believe that it's in the best interests of the uk to leave the european union in an orderly way with a deal. i think we have a good deal, sadly the labour parties and am. ps have stopped us from delivering brexit and that deal, but this is an issue that will continue here in the uk. i think the important thing is we deliver brexit and once we are out european union we will
be able to develop a broader economic partnership into the future. >> mr. president, are you prepared to impose limits on intelligence sharing with britain if they do not put in place some restrictions on huawei? >> no, because we're going to have absolutely an agreement on huawei and everything else. we have an incredible intelligence relationship and we will be able to work out any differences. i think we're not -- we did discuss it. i see absolutely no limitations. we have never had limitations. this is a truly great ally and partner and we will have no problem with that. >> francis. >> mr. president, do you agree with your ambassador that the entire economy needs to be on the table in a future trade talk, trade deal, including the nhs? prime minister, you attempted to take the president's word and stick around for a bit until a trade deal is done? >> i think we're going to have a
great trade deal, yes. i think we're going to have a great and comprehensive trade deal. [ inaudible ]. >> i can't hear him. >> should the national health service be on the table? >> look, i think everything with a trade deal is on the table. when you're dealing on trade everything is on the table. so nhs or anything else. a lot more than that. but everything will be on the table, absolutely. >> but the point about making trade deals is, of course, that both sides negotiate and come to an agreement about what should or should not be in that trade deal for the future. as regards your second question, franc francis, nice try, but, no. look, i'm a woman of my word. mr. president, would you like to -- >> john, please. >> reporter: mr. president, thank you. mr. president, domestically in recent days mexico has stepped
up apprehensions and deportations of central american migrants. >> that's good. >> reporter: this could possibly be in response to your threat of tariffs. has mexico -- >> not possibly be. >> reporter: has mexico done enough to avoid tariffs which will be imposed in some six days from now? >> we haven't started yet. >> reporter: but the threat is out there. >> yeah, the threat is out there but we haven't really started yet. this will take effect next week, 5%. >> reporter: what do you think of republicans who say they may take action to block you imposing those tariffs. >> i don't think they will do that, if they do it's foolish. there's nothing more important than borders. i've had tremendous republican support. i have a 90% -- 94% approval rating as of this morning in the republican party. that's an all time record. can you believe that? isn't that something. i love records. but we have a 94% approval rating in the republican party. i want to see security at our border. i'm going to see great trade. i'm going to see a lot of things
happening and that is happening. as you know mexico called, this he want to meet, they're going to meet on wednesday. secretary pompeo will be at the meeting along with a few others that are they good at this and we are going to see if we can do something, but i think it's more likely that the tariffs go on and we will probably be talking during the time that the tariffs are on and they are going to be paid. if they don't step up and give us security for our nation, look, millions of people are flowing through mexico. that's unacceptable. millions and millions of people are coming right through mexico. it's a 2000 mile journey and they are coming up to our border and our border patrol which is incredible they're apprehending them, but our laws are bad because the democrats don't want to pass laws. that could be passed in 15 minutes. that could be passed quickly. in one day it could change. even beyond the laws mexico shouldn't allow millions of people to try to enter our country and they could stop it
very quickly. i think they will. if they won't we're going to put tariffs on. every month those tariffs go from 5% to 10% to 15% to 20 and then to 25%. what will happen then is all of those companies that have left our country and gone to mexico are going to be coming back to us. and that's okay. that's okay. but i think mexico will step up and do what they should have been done. i don't want to hear that mexico is run by the cartels and the drug lords and the coyotes. i don't want to hear about that. a lot of people are saying that. mexico has something to prove, but i don't want to hear that they're run by the cartels. you understand. you report on it all the time. a lot of people do. that would be a terrible thing. mexico should step up and stop this onslaut, this invasion into our country, john. >> prime minister may you tried three times to get a deal on brexit. at this point do you believe that a deal on brexit is
possible or is this a gourd yan knot? president trump says that you didn't take his advice in terms of negotiation. should you have would that have made a difference? president trump, if i can ask a follow-up. you had a conversation with boris johnson, can we ask that you spoke about and will you meet with michael gove today? >> i said in answer to an earlier question i shil believe, i personally believe that it is in the best interest of the uk to leave the european union with a deal. i believe there is a good deal on the table. obviously it will be for whoever succeeds me as prime minister to take this issue forward. what is paramount, i believe, is delivering on brexit for the british people. and i seem to remember the president suggested that i sued the european union which we didn't do, we went into negotiations and we came out with a good deal. >> that's not -- i would have sued, but that's okay. i would have sued and settled maybe, but you never know.
she's probably a better negotiator than i am, jeremy. do you know what, she has got it in a sense, john, that deal is teed up. i think that deal is teed up. i think they have to do something and perhaps you won't be given the credit that you deserve if they do something, but i think you deserve a lot of credit. i really do. i think you deserve a lot of credit. yes, john. [ inaudible question ] >> so i know boris, i like him, i've liked him for a long time. i think he would do a very good job. i know jeremy, i think he would do a very good job. i don't know michael, but -- would he do a good job, jeremy? tell me. okay. good. thank you very much, everybody. thank you. thank you very much. >> there you have it. a very friendly, very warm joint press conference between the
president of the united states and british prime minister theresa may. giving her a lot of credit, didn't you think, jim? >> probably the biggest compliment he said she may be a better negotiator than i. >> he said he probably would have sued on brexit. a bit in jest there and maybe settled. it was the -- the warmth was there, the focus on iran and the nuclear agreement was there, despite theresa may saying although we remain in the iran nuclear deal we have the same goal. >> it's a big issue of disagreement that they stayed in. she said we're safer and more prosperous when we work together relating to the iran deal. of course, they are on opposite sides. i want to do a quick fact check on the president. the president was asked about the protests in the uk to his visit and claimed they were fake news. let's show you some video of the protests taking place right now at trafalgar square, that effigy of president trump tweeting -- not only there in trafalgar square, but there were some boos against the president from
protesters as he entered the press conference. the president claimed the protests are fake news, there they are for your own eyes to see. they are not. just one other point i would make is the president and prime minister talking about a trade deal. we have talked about this a fair amount. this he both want it. the uk having a trade deal with the u.s. is part of the case they made for brexit saying we're going to make bilateral trade deals with the world, this will be great, the president says he very much supports that is correct even said it will be two to three times what we're doing now. trouble is the u.s. and uk have serious disagreements on how that trade deal might look, particularly with access to agriculture, et cetera. >> as you were pointing out it takes years. it takes years for something like that to happen. >> ratification. >> it's a big promise from the u.s. president who also has turned on trade deals with allies as we're seeing right now. >> he has. >> let's go to christiane amanpour, abby phillip, daniel dale. what's your initial reaction? >> you've covered the issues like the protests, like iran,
like trade. so let's get to the heart of it. to me it seems like the big news he made was about the tariffs on mexico. that will be a big domestic story and that was pretty significant. he said they will happen and not only that if the mention cons don't play ball as i want them to those tariffs will go up 5% each month. up until 25%. that's a pretty big deal. secondly another big deal in terms of relations with the united kingdom over huawei, he was quite -- quite clear about trying to play down any notion that he would punish the uk by withdrawing or disrupting intelligence cooperation. he simply seemed to say that wouldn't happen, he was sure that they had reached an agreement, that intelligence sharing had been the bedrock of this relationship. it was a major issue and that he couldn't see breaking it off. you know, we will wait to see how that happens. then his kind words to theresa may were in stark contrast with this time last year, but clearly because this will be their last meeting in her current role.
he did throw her a massive bone over brexit. he sort of also punted on the johnson, jeremy hunt, michael goben and the other challenges for theresa may's job. >> on the intel sharing something has to give because they are on opposite sides on this issue. someone is going to have to concede if that is indeed true and that the huawei issue -- >> he sounded like he thinks they are going to concede. >> we'll see. >> john king, to christian an's point there the president and despite opposition to tariffs on mexico, being very firm that even against the advice of some of his advisers in the white house is going to move forward. >> as republicans especially in the united states senate, jim, try to figure out can we block the president, should we try to block the president. he was saying it would be, quote, foolish. the president essentially challenging his own party, get in line. i know you don't like this. don't dare especially as we head into election season. it was striking, i think, to
follow up, you listen to his tone, challenging his own party, it would be foolish. listen to his tone when he was talking about the onslaught, invasion of ex am cans coming over from mexico. he thought it was most likely the tariffs would go into effect. what we don't see very often, it's not completely unique but we don't see diplomatic and deferential donald trump we heard on the issues related to where he is, the uk issues. how much praise he heaped on theresa may. he has constantly undermined her and questioned her leadership abilities. he said he was crowd of her, she doesn't get the credit she deserves. that was pretty i can strooing. i thought it was interesting when the subject of the london mayor came up and jeremy corbin the labour party, he said people should be more constructive. he doesn't like people who are negative. there is this thing called twitter, you could read the president's twitter feed. he is a very good practitioner of criticism and negativity but at least for a few moments he
decided to be the nice more diplomatic donald trump. >> it is notable although the president in that press conference did praise theresa may's negotiating skills, saying they are perhaps better than his own and said that she really sort of brought the ball to the finish line on brexit, it was just a few days ago when he was doing interviews with the british press that he says he thinks the uk allowed the european union to have all the cards. so the question becomes which way does he really view it. nic robertson is with us as well. if we could build on what john king was talking about. calling jeremy corbin the leader of the opposition and sadiq kahn going negative, going farther with sadiq kahn and saying he has caused some of the people of his country and hurt the people of london. >> reporter: i was interested that president trump turned down a request from jeremy corbin for a meeting. jeremy corbin didn't go to the state dinner last night, missed an opportunity to perhaps have a few quiet words with president trump there. that was interesting. we haven't heard from corbin's office until now that he had
requested a meeting with president trump, we are not aware of what he might have wanted to say. i think when you look at this in the round, the president has really understood that he needs to be cautious, not to sort of undermine people like boris johnson because there is a risk for johnson in this if he's seen as the preferred candidate by president trump, that could really undo him, but he does prefer to be the preferred candidate by president trump. you know, i think trying to sort of talk positively about what theresa may has achieved so far really seems to indicate that the president does understand that a conservative government in britain is one that better serves his interests, his policies, america first. but i think, you know, it's a difficult diplomatic tightrope to walk for any foreign leader to come into a country where they are meeting with an outgoing leader, where there is a leadership challenge going on,
whether something as momentous as brexit taking place, as politically charged as that. we can be certain that the labour party, the mayor of lond london, jeremy corbin will continue with their challenge to the conservative people and to the people of britain this is a time to hold a general election. president trump said, yes, in a future trade deal everything should be on the table, not just the national health service, but even more than that. i think in the minds of many people in britain they can't conceive of what even more than the national health service being on the table for trade talks would mean. it is -- it's a key part of british people's lives that they have a free healthcare service and they wouldn't want to have one similar to the united states that they will pay for. so i think, you know, that what we will see here is the labour party try to tarnish the conservatives as being close to
president trump, president trump trying to break up things like the health service. there may be a small political backlash through that, labour will exploit it. >> question to you, daniel dale, because washington bureau chief for the toronto star, you have run something of a running fact checking service on the president through these last months and couple of years. the president there, president of the united states, to stand there on international television claimed that protests are fake news when people watching this program or anywhere can see with their own eyes that they are not. we showed the pictures before, we will show them again, both down in trafalgar square, central london but also outside number 10 as the president walked into this press conference. what is the president trying to accomplish by claiming that these protests don't exist when they do? >> well, we know that he's always tried to make himself appear for popular, more beloved than he is and this kind of claim is a staple of his dishonesty. he also falsely claimed there
were thousands of people cheering him. everywhere he went there were thousands cheering him. reporters on the ground say that simply didn't happen. there were not those thousands there. i think there are false claims worth noting here. he claimed as he has repeatedly that he predicted brexit the day before the vote on a visit to his golf course in scotland. he wasn't even at turnberry until the day after the vote. he did not venture a prediction. he said he wouldn't do so. that was false as well. yes, he was deferential and often diplomatic, but there was also the dishonesty we usually see. >> abby phillip is also with us. abby, you know, it is very significant that he -- the president clearly said that intelligence sharing between the u.s. and the uk will not change. he's confident they will reach a deal over huawei, the u.s. would like to see the chinese tech
giant limited in its ability or no ability to operate in the uk as is the restriction now in the u.s. the uk has said they will be doing minimal things huawei in that country. the president seems to think maybe the uk will concede on that and that intelligence sharing will continue just as it does now. >> reporter: yeah, i mean, i think he seemed to -- actually frankly, more optimistic than i expected him to be on that particular issue. it could be because he thinks that the huawei issue is going to resolve itself in a way where they won't have to take that step or it could be his acknowledgment that this five eyes relationship that the u.s. has with the uk and other countries is a bedrock of that relationship and that it is one of those things that should not be thrown by the wayside cavalierly. i think that if it is the latter that that would be, i think, a major step for president trump who has been so willing to
really upend some of these preexisting tenets of these bilateral relationship and these international agreements. he has just been so willing to upend those things that it wouldn't have been a surprise that he said in this particular case that he was willing to look into that. the fact that he shut it down was further than i expected him to go on that issue. i think it suggests more that -- that he's -- that he is really truly at this place where he sees this as a special relationship. i think so much of the imagery and symbolism of the last several days has been about showing to president trump that this is a relationship that has stood the test of time, that has with stood wars, it has established peace and i think they've been trying to really instill in him that these are not just words, that it actually is meaningful. i think that by closing the door to that today, which i think he did, that's an important step for this relationship as president trump really settles
into it being what it has been for the last many decades. >> pamela brown, you were in the room there today, you've been covering this trip. tell us about the reaction to the room and particularly this cozy relationship between the sitting prime minister and the u.s. president. >> reporter: that's right. it was a very friendly showing today between president trump and prime minister may, which is notable because president trump has been critical of may in the past, particularly because she didn't take his advice on the eu, on the brexit deal, to sue the eu. what was interesting is we saw a rare moment of president trump being self-deprecating within that came up and he basically said maybe it wasn't a mistake for her to not sue the eu, maybe she did handle it the right way. he went on to say she's probably a better negotiator than i am. so that caused some laughs here in the front row where the president's family was sitting as well as senior white house advisers. but it did seem like the president was in a jovial mood
and even prime minister theresa may was complementary, president trump was complementary of her. in fact, when the -- everything came up about the london mayor, sadiq kahn, being critical of president trump and in turn president trump calling him a stone cold loser, theresa may didn't take the bait on that and basically said that the relationship between the u.s. and uk is bigger than these squabbles that are going on. certainly it was a positive showing. as you know, theresa may is stepping aside in just a few days, so perhaps that could be part of the reason why everything seemed more relaxed here today and the president was very complementary of her, which was, again, in contrast to what we've heard from him in the past on certain issues, particularly on brexit. what also stood out to me is he talked about this incredible intelligence sharing relationship when huawei came up, he said he did think something would work out. as you know he has also accused british intelligence agencies of
spying on his campaign. unfortunately that did not come up today. if i had had the opportunity to ask a question i would have asked him about that if he expressed those concerns and what evidence he was basing that on. as you know he has brought that up repeatedly and has even asked his attorney general to declassify which has caused concerns here in great britain if there is any information declassified that great britain has shared with the u.s. it could harm great britain and also the safety of the u.s. back to you. >> that's a great point. i wish you had had the chance to ask that question, pamela brown, but good point in bringing it up. john king, to you. so sort of almost in the same breath right after saying that the u.s. would negotiate what the president calls a comprehensive trade deal with the uk if there is a successful exit from the european union, he also said there's no question that he will slap these tariffs on mexico next week, which goes to show that if you even as an ally of the united states do something or don't act enough to the president's liking, that he
will slap tariffs on you and harm your economy. so the question becomes what should the uk believe in terms of how strong of a trading partner and an independent bilateral trade deal the u.s. would be under with president trump. >> it is a great question and it is a question that will be answered in the next prime minister administration in a sense. that's why today beneath this good cheer, beneath this effort by this president, again, who is constantly questioned, constantly undermined theresa may he clearly decided he wanted to go out on a positive note, wanted to go out paying tribute to her, wanted to get better press coverage. this is a president who watches the media coverage and gets mad when it's necessary testify. he clearly wanted this trip to be special, to be different, to be positive. whether it's the huawei issue, whether it's the particulars of a u.s./uk trade agreement should american healthcare companies be allowed to compete in great britain? that's a huge issue. should the british uk agriculture be completely open to the u.s.? that's a huge issue.
poppy, you know this very well, the details this have trade agreements get into all politics is local, whether it's canadian lumber or whether it's the national health system in the uk. incredibly difficult issue. the huawei issue will be an incredible difficult issue. the british prime minister she mentioned the paris climate change agreement and her differences with the president. so beneath the surface here there are a ton of differences that linger and continue but since prime minister may has just a few days left, both leaders decided we're going to leave that >> the press conference ends quickly. those negotiations would go on for years. nic robertson, you said the president was insulated from anti-trump protests in london. why? how? and by whom? >> sure. i mean, i was intrigued that the president thought he could hear people cheering him as he walked between the number 10 and the
foreign commonwealth office because it was quite clear the crowds were not chanting in support of him. but what has happened here today is the police have issued instructions that demonstrators, the big number of demonstrators who have been demonstrating here, weren't able to get close to downing street. so the president really has been insulated in that way. that where the protesters are protesting, it's some distance from where he is, so he hasn't been exposed to them. that the sort of baby trump blimp balloons that have been flown have had a limited time that the police have allowed the protesters to fly them. i think it is important to say that the president has been not exposed as much as the sort of general public on the streets of london might be to the protests. if he mishears them, that's one thing, but to have seen them, i'll not surprised to say he hasn't seen them because they have been kept away from him.
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welcome back. so a significant headline, china this morning is lashing out at secretary of state mike pompeo over his comments on this, the 30th anniversary of the tiananmen square massacre calling then an affront to the citizens of that country. hundreds if not thousands of innocent civilians were murdered on june 4th, 1989, as china's communist party cracked down on pro-democracy protesters. >> the next day, the world would see this famous scene. an unidentified man, a single man blocking a long row of tanks following that violent crackdown. it's been a mystery as to where that man went, who he is, what
happened to him? in a statement, pompeo highlighted china's recent record on poor human rights. they seek to exercise their human rights for which many are punished, jailed, even tortured. joining us, alex marquardt as well as matt rivers. rare words from this administration, calling out nations for human rights violations. on china, very strong ones and on a day with enormous power, the 30th anniversary of the tiananmen square massacre. >> that's right, and in fact, you mentioned hundreds even thousands had been killed. one thingt secretary of state pompeo called for in the statement was a full accounting of the actual death toll. in a statement that, you know, matt will certainly speak to how it has rankled chinese officials, pompeo called the people on tiananmen square 30 years ago heroes of the chinese people. we should note, these were not offhanded comments, spur of the moments remarks by secretary
pompeo. this was a sharp, pointed, well timed, at least in the eyes of the state department, put out at 12:01 beijing time, just as tuesday was getting started. just as this anniversary was starting in beijing. pompeo making the point in this state that hopes have been dashed that china would become a more open and tolerant society, as it became a member of the global economy. i want to read part of this very sharp and strongly worded statement that pompeo issued earlier this morning. chinese time. he writes china's one party state tolerates no dissent and abuses human rights whenever it serves its interests. today, chinese citizens have been subjected to new wave of abuses where the chinese party leadership is methodically trying to strangle uighur culture and stamp out the islamic members of muslim minority groups.
we should note religious freedom has been a strong emphasis and priority for this administration. speaking of serving one's interests, we should note the state sd apartment is relatively silent when it comes to its partners in international diplomacy on human rights. saudi arabia and north korea, for example, but of course, this is a sharply, strong worded statement coming at a time of very high tension between the united states and china. >> it's a notable distinction that jim and i were talking about before the show. matt rivers, to you, you have actually gone there, to try to see what's happening to the uighurs. you have a unique perspective, also the response from china. what can you tell us? >> unsurprisingly, beijing didn't like what the secretary of state had to say. and it used some colorful language saying things like if anyone bullies the chinese
people in any way, they will end up, quote, on the ash heap of history. so really predictable language from the chinese government there. but in terms of reaction, let's talk about the reaction of china's government to what happened in 1989. they don't talk about it. there were no apologies, no memorials out on the streets today. we were out all day long on the streets, and it was like a normal tuesday. there were hundreds if not thousands of people murdered here and we drove past tiananmen square, we couldn't go inside because journalists are forbidden from going inside, and there was nothing going on out of the ordinary because china's government wants it that way. beyond that, state media can't report it, and when it comes to foreign media, not only has cnn's signal been blacked out every time we talk about this, but also, when we were doing live shots in the street in a place it was legal to be at, we were harassed by the police and forced to go off the air. this is the chinese government's response to what happened in 1989.
when the secretary of state talks about things like western china and what's happening to muslims out there, human rights abuses are still happening right now in this country. >> china has sought to erase history. with the massacre in tiananmen square, and they had a lot of success with people who were born since then. >> millennials in china who have never seen coverage or read about it. >> thanks very much. top of the hour here. i'm jim sciutto in new york. >> i'm poppy harlow. the business portion of the president's state visit to britain is now behind him. he and the first lady are right now visiting winston churchill's underground command center, the so-called war rooms after a morning spent with u.s. and uk business leaders and the soon-to-be former british prime minister, theresa may. the president and ms. may just wrapped up a news conference reaffirming what the president called the greatest alliance the world has