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and son-in-law. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >> we're following breaking news now set for july 17th. tonight, president trump is complaining that, quote, this mueller thing never ends. he's going to new lengths to try to discredit the former special counsel, falsely accusing him of leading text messages exchanged by two fbi officials. the president is responding to that stunning photo of a father and daughter who drowned at the southern border. he's trying to blame democrats and their policies for their deaths. this, as billions of dollars of humanitarian aid for migrants remains in limbo tonight after the house and senate passed
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competing bills. this hour i'll talk to adam schiff. first, let's go to our chief white house correspondent jim acosta. the president is on his way to where you are in the g20 summit. he has a lot to say before he left the white house. >> that's right, wolf. he left with a swirl of problems on his tail. at the border a heartbreaking image that may destroy his legacy. as he left for the g20 summit in japan, he unloaded on the upcoming testimony of robert mueller, who has been called to appear before congress next month. >> i just heard. my only response to mueller is,
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does it ever stop. >> mr. trump's planned discussion is with vladimir putin is likely to draw the most attention but he didn't say if he will tell him to butt out of the 2020 election. >> what i say to him is none of your business. i have great confidence in my intelligence people. i will tell you that president putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today. >> on immigration, the president made it clear the buck doesn't stop with him when it comes to the safety of migrants at the border. >> open borders mean people drowning in the rivers and it's a very dangerous thing. >> the president blamed democrats, battling with republicans over a border bill. one of the lasting images of
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hardline record on immigration migrant father and daughter crossing the rio grande, dying in each other's arms. >> i hate it. the democrats have to change the laws and then that father, who was probably this wonderful guy, with his daughter, things like that wouldn't happen. because that journey across that river, that journey across that river is a very dangerous journey. >> as mr. trump is heading to japan, he took jabs at the country hosting the g20 summit, complaining the japanese have taken advantage of the u.s. for too long. >> if japan is attacked, we will fight world war iii. we will go in, protect them and fight with our lives and with our treasure. we will fight at all costs, right? if we're attacked, japan doesn't have to help us at all. they can watch it on sony television, the attack. >> he might have taken a swipe at the late senator john mccain
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to swap obamacare. >> we needed 60 votes. we had 51 votes and sometimes, you know, we had a little hard time with a couple of them, right? fortunately, they're gone now. they've gone on to greener pastures or, perhaps, far less green pastures, but they're gone. >> no slight goes unnoticed, u.s. soccer player megan rapinho who said -- >> [ bleep ]. >> megan should win before she talks. finish the job. >> jim acosta, reporting for us from osaka, japan. tonight, as president trump is lamenting robert mueller's testimony, some democrats are celebrating. they're hoping mueller's appearance will help them make their case. others are trying to downplay expectations. political correspondent sarah myrrh is joining us right now.
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sarah, mueller's testimony is about three weeks away. what can we expect? >> wolf, i think you'll see robert mueller trying to be as conservative as possible, and stick to the report. of course, that's not going to stop lawmakers from asking, truly, whatever they want. >> democrats hope robert mueller's public appearance before congress, now scheduled for three weeks from today, will reenergize their investigation of the president and reintroduce the former special counsel's report to the american people. >> i think it's very important that the american people hear from mr. mueller as to what he did find, given the nature of what he has to say, what's in the report, he will be a very compelling witness. >> mueller, who appeared before congress many times as fbi director this time will be a reluctant witness. >> i expect this to be the only time i will speak to you in this manner. >> the 74-year-old has said repeatedly he did not want to testify publicly. >> any testimony from this office would not go beyond our report. we chose those words carefully and the work speaks for itself.
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and the report is my testimony. >> the announcement overnight of a deal for him to answer questions came only after both the house judiciary and intelligence committee subpoenaed him. >> certainly the outlines of what he's going to talk about are in the report. so now many americans haven't read the report. again i think we should be realistic about our expectations. >> the committee is expected to question mueller in back-to-back hearings, televised gavel to gavel, followed by a closed-door session. that will include mueller's staff to focus on intelligence issues. and why mueller never sped the president to testify and why he never said outright that trump obstructed justice. he said there wasn't enough evidence to charge the campaign with conspiracy. >> bob mueller better be
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prepared because i can tell you, he will be cross examined for the first time, and the american people will start to see the flaws in his report. >> tonight, republicans say they're jumping at the chance to question the special counsel's conclusions and publicly scrutinize the origins of mueller's investigation. >> the american people deserve a full accounting of what he did. again, we're doing a redo of this report that's been out for two months. now it's appropriate to see where it came from. >> one of president trump's attorneys is already blasting the hearings of political theater, put on by angry democrats and offering a line of questioning by republicans. >> biggest question he will have to ask himself or be asked is do you think it's the job of the special counsel to exonerate someone? we're not saying the president commit aid crime or exonerating him either. the job of the special counsel is not to exonerate. >> that will be interesting to see how bob mueller pairs these questions about the origins of the investigation. wolf, we know that's something
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that attorney general women barr is already looking into. back to you. >> joining us now, chairman of the house committee that will hear testimony from robert mueller congressman adam schiff. thanks for coming in. >> pleasure. >> i'm hearing that he agreed to testify before the committee but set a strict number of hours he's willing to appear. is that true? >> he has committed to making sure we can have a full hearing and all the members are alotted that kind of time. >> as long as it takes, he will stay there. is that your understanding? >> as long as it takes for members to get through their five-minute questions. that's the commitment, not to do a second round, essentially, but a normal hearing where you have one round of questioning. >> and go behind closed doors and continue the discussion with you? >> we'll have a continued
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discussion with his staff but he will not be present for the closed section. >> i will leave it to the judiciary committee. i think they have a different arrangement but that's what we negotiate negotiated. >> judiciary committee goes first and intelligence committee second? >> yes. judiciary committee will do their opening component and then we'll have the closed session with the judiciary committee potentially but with the intelligence committee. >> what are some of the most important questions you think robert mueller needs to answer? >> well, we will focus most on volume one, over 100 interactions between the trump campaign and the russians, why bob mueller reached certain conclusions that he did. what witnesses made themselves unavailable, why weren't certain
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people interviewed, why did he reach certain conclusions in term terms of the conspiracy charges, particularly around the trump tower meeting? the russians offered dirt, president's son accepted the offer at the trump tower meeting in furtherance of the conspiracy. what happened to the investigations and what were the findings and the process there? where were you stymied? what other avenues were you not allowed to pursue? did you follow the money? we want to know basically anything we need to know to protect the country. is there still a risk of compromise mere such that the president or people around him are acting for financial or other interests and not in the national interests? >> what are your expectations? do you think we'll learn something new beyond the 448-page mueller report? >> i think we will. again, underscoring the compromise issues, the president
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said today that whether he talks to putin about the upcoming election is none of our business. it is very much our business. frankly, we have concerns that they not be talking about his business. we do during the campaign trump was talking to the russians or his staff were and they were seeking help from the kremlin. this is very much our business. is the american president acting in our interest or because he has some financial motivation. >> are you surprised that it took. >> i am surprised. he took the job. we should be grateful he took the job. this comes with the job. the republicans would like america to believe that when a special counsel or special prosecutor does their investigation, it presents to congress, that's the end instead of the beginning.
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if it were up to the republicans, they would have said there's no hearings for watergate. he was providing this to congress because he was not empowered to indict. for jay sekulow to say it's not the job of a prosecutor to exonerate, he's assuming that the prosecutor can do what they normally do, which is indict, but he was not allowed to indic indict. >> the president says you simply want a do-over. what's your reaction? >> this is the president, as always, as victim. they're treating me so unfairly. they want to look into whether i broke the law. how dare congress look into whether the president of the united states broke the law. yes, we are. seeking business in russia was a
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conflict of interest yet he lied to the country about it. you're darn right this is the business of the congress and the country. and we're not going to be deterred by his mantra of harassmen harassment. >> are you concerned it could become contentious and this whole thing could backfire? >> i think it will be a gop strategy to make a circus out of these hearings, the strategy on the gop side was we are an extension of the president's legal defense team. we're going to see that, i suspect, played out in these hearings, but we're going to do our best to keep them civil, to keep them focused on the facts, but we want to make sure that
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bob mueller is not subject to unfair treatment. >> five minutes for a democrat, five minutes for a republican, go back and forth? >> we'll sit down among the members and discuss how we want to structure the hearing. when we have a fact witness, we often do those interviews, staff led, sometimes members and staff, one hour for one side, another hour for another side. >> you haven't reached an agreement about that? >> no. >> if every member gets five minutes a lot of those members will sempl speak for 4 1/2 minutes and ask one question. and it's going to be a waste of time. >> well, we have to make sure that's not what happens. in addition to making sure whoever does the questioning, in howev however, whatever manner we do it, we get to the most important
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points but also we want to make sure what we do in intell committee is not duplicative of what the judiciary committee is do i doing. we want to make sure we maximize the use of time. >> do you think this will change attitudes as far as launching former impeachment hearings and procedure? >> i don't know whether the hearing will have that affect. i come into this with a realistic expectation. we know most of what bob mueller is going to say in his report but nonetheless, hearing from him, not just the dry page but hearing the prosecutor who looked into this talk about multiple acts of obstruction of justice, that can be powerful. and the effect on the country, we'll have to wait and find out. >> your committee has issued subpoenas for two witnesses to appear, michael flynn and rick gates. the deadline for the do you means you want for them is today. have those individuals complied with your request? >> i'm not prepared to speak to
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that yet. if we have to seek to enforce those subpoenas through court as we have seen other committees have had to do, we'll take whatever steps are necessary. we have to use litigation, we'll do that. >> sounds as if they haven't complied, at least not yet. >> i don't want to comment on that at this point. >> what about the situation along the border, u.s./mexico border? we've all seen that horrific photo of that father and little daughter of his. there's two different bills now that have passed. a house bill passed largely by the democrats, senate bill passed largely by the republicans. are you going to be able to work out a compromise? >> we have to work out a compromise. wolf, i have to say every now and then there are images that just are shattering. and this is one of them. you know, to see that father and daughter embrace till the end is just absolutely devastating. we're going to have to work this out. but, again, i have to say that
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the president's effort to deflect responsibility, this is the product of this policy. part of the point of this policy is to make conditions cruel enough to deter migration, cruel enough to get congress to build this wall and the results are tragic. they're tragic. for him to try to deflect responsibility, he's the president of the united states. the buck stops with him. it's time for him to stop acting like a victim and to start acting like the president of the united states. >> he's blaming you, the democrats. >> he blames everyone but himself. this is the result. the tragic result of his policy, of making people using meetering to force people to try to slow the flow artificially of those who are seeking refuge from violence and hardship. there's no need for this.
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>> congressman schiff, thank you so much for coming? >> thanks, wolf. >> just ahead i'll speak to jared kushner about bob mueller's testimony. an in-depth interview one of the president's closest advisers and i'll get pareet's take on what mueller will and won't say. plus we'll match your miles at the end of your first year. you'll match my miles? yeah! mile for mile! and no blackout dates or annual fee. nice! i was thinking about taking a scuba diving trip! i love that. or maybe go surfing... or not. ok. maybe somewhere else. maybe a petting zoo. can't go wrong. can't get eaten. earn miles. we'll match 'em at the end of your first year. plus no annual fee or blackouts. the discover it® miles card. will transform not just the automobile, but mobility itself. an autonomous-thinking vehicle
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we're back with breaking news, of president trump attacking robert mueller ahead of his testimony in front of congress three weeks from today, that he illegally deleted text messages of two fbi officials. cnn senior legal analyst preet bahara. >> a lot of things that congressman schiff and others need to ask him about, most importantly, really, how vulnerable the u.s. was to interference in the election in 2016, what if anything he has learned from the investigation to keep that from happening to protect democracy and future elections when he came to certain conclusions, what he thinks about the role of congress in this. the other thing that's important about bob mueller's testimony is that for a long time there had been misimpressions about the report, the investigation, misimpressions about him. and for a short period of time,
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at least that day, july 17th, bob mueller will have, even though this is not his prefaurp he will have an equal voice and platform to compete with the president who, on a daily basis says faculties, scandalous and sometimes libel things about bob mueller and the investigation. look, he doesn't have horns. he is a fair and honest guy. he served his country, did the best that he can do. that's an important service. he can be asked simple questions like when the president says you found no collusion, is that a correct statement? when the president says you found no obstruction, is that a correct statement? for that period of time on july 17th, sometimes those simple questions and answering them in a way that's forthright and credible will go a long way to have people understand what the report was about and have confidence in that investigation. >> how should mueller respond to
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questions that go beyond the scope of this report? >> well, it depends what those things are. bob mueller really didn't want to testify and as a way of trying to get him not to testify said look, i'm not going to give you anything new. it's a waste of your time. i don't think it will be. he might questions about when he came to the conclusion he could not make a charging decision because of this olc opinion, how he dealt with certain difficulties during the case. to the extent republicans are going to be asking him questions that are tough and challenging, how he dealt with peter strzok, that's outside the scope of the report. i think he should answer those but he could do a lot in the way of explanation. how many people did you talk to, who was compliant, who was not? he should answer those questions. >> were you surprised democrats
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had to issue a subpoena? >> not really. bob mueller did not want to become either a pawn or a pinata at a hearing. he has eyes. he sees how these congressional hearing hearings unfold and doesn't want to be giving a basis to make political arguments. he didn't want to be an overly willing participant in what i think he views is sometimes looking like a circus. he's not going to shy away from it but wasn't dying to go testify. >> illegally deleting anti-trump text messages between two former fbi employees. in fact, those messages were wiped from government phones by the justice department in accordance with longstanding department policy. what's your reaction to that baseless, personal attack from the president on mueller? >> it's disgusting behavior
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we've come to expect from the sitting president of the united states of america. it's ironic. lots of things are ironic. what donald trump complains about a lot is whether or not there was sufficient evidence, sufficient process with which to make certain findings in the mueller report, southern district case or other cases and yet he goes about tossing off allegations right and left that have no basis in fact, no basis in logic. think about what kind of special counsel i shoulder to think about it, donald trump would have made if he can go before cameras and impugn the integrity of somebody else based on nothing because he can get away with it? at least with a certain segment of the population, because he has no voice of equal volume to challenge him. >> preet bharara, thank you. >> thank you, wolf. just ahead, my interview with jared kushner on the drowning of a migrant father and
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following breaking news. president trump lashing out again against former special
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counsel robert mueller who will testify before the house intelligence and judiciary committees next month. he was done speaking about the investigation, president trump said, and that the democrats simply want a do-over and i'm quoting now, does it ever end? surprising it took a subpoena to get mueller to appear before congress? >> no. he didn't want to do this. he didn't want to come, as much as democrats said it was his duty to do so. he didn't want to. his staff didn't want him to. they were worried about him being thrust into the politics of this. of course, it's all politics. but now that they've actually managed to get him to come and in public, democrats better figure out how to make the most of this opportunity. this is a make or break situation for them. they should figure out lines of questioning for the man who is the author of this report. for instance, you said if you had confidence that he didn't commit a crime, you would have said so, but you didn't. you didn't exonerate him. what did you mean by that?
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why did you say that? he has gotten a lot of flack for that and should answer that question. >> if you were given the opportunity to question him, jeffrey toobin, what would you ask? >> if i were a democrat i would ignore the high-minded questions that preet suggested and adam schiff suggested and say what did the criminal activity donald trump commit, period? don't lose focus on the donald. >> president, gloria borger, is complaining, quote, this mueller thing never ends. do you think he's afraid of the impact of these televised hearings? >> sure. this president understands television. he knows a lot of people will be tuning in, particularly because they've only heard from bob mueller for about, what, nine minutes over the last two years? and the american public does want to hear from him.
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i think the question that we all have, and to follow up on jeffrey, if bob mueller gets asked the question, what did you find that donald trump did that's criminal, why wouldn't his answer just be, well, you saw what we said in our report? we listed ten ways that he might have obstructed justice but because the office of legal counsel we could not prosecute. i think they'll have to hone in on would you have prosecuted, were it not for that office of legal counsel decision? and when did you decide that you couldn't prosecute? but jeffrey's questions are great. i'm just not sure that bob mueller is going to answer any of them. >> neither am i. >> yeah. >> but the facts of the case are not known to a lot of people. don mcgahn is a crucial figure and democrats have tried in vain to get -- >> former white house counsel.
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>> former white house counsel. what did don mcgahn say the president did? read the report out loud if necessary. the difference between a report and a television show is big. >> enormous. >> i don't see why the democrats need to -- >> david, do you think his testimony will change the calculation of the democrats, those democrats specifically who are reluctant to begin impeachment hearings? >> wolf, i think it depends on what happens at the hearing. jeff and ghor gloria are exact right. if they ask questions in volume i of the mueller report, the trump tower meeting, june 2016, why wasn't donald trump jr. indicted for a crime? can you explain? or in volume ii if they say, you know, if president trump were not president of the united states, would he be indicted for obstruction of justice? and if special counsel mueller gives answers to those questions beyond like you're saying, beyond just sort of, well, it's all in the report. i've said all i have to say, then maybe the tide will start
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to turn a little bit and you'll start seeing a majority of the democratic majority go for impeach. if not i think we're on the same trajectory we've been on. >> can we please stop with the predictions that public opinion is going to change? public opinion never changes about donald trump. if you look at every poll basically since inauguration day, 40% in favor, 55% against. and the idea that mueller's testimony will change that seems absurd. >> over the general public. but what about among democrats, who are the majority in the house? >> you know, i think the -- no. not in enormous numbers. what are the numbers, about 75 now? it's important to remember, the number of democrats in the house of representatives is well more than 200. the fact that it's 70, 80, i don't think nancy pelosi is worried about that. >> the question is -- we've seen these questions being asked in the polls of the american public, what do you think about impeachment? by majority they're saying no,
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we don't want to go through it. i think the only question is, will those polls change a little bit i think jeff is right. maybe the committee would save a lot of time by putting it up in some graphics and asking mueller to comment on each particular thing. mueller doesn't want to turn into james comey, when he incline ei declined to indict. mueller doesn't want to do that, from all we know about bob mueller. i would argue this is a different situation. the stakes are very high.
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he ut to be able to feel that he can fill in the blanks a little bit here. >> the president is directly accusing mueller, and you covered the justice department for us, laura jarrett, of wiping these messages from these two former fbi officials, former fbi agent, peter strzok, former fbi lawyer, lisa page. does the president have any evidence to back up that assertion? >> no. it's a lie. plain and simple. he can say it with a lot of force but it's still a lie. look, the man was the head of a multimillion dollar investigation, and the president is treating him as if he's some rogue i.t. specialist. and the justice department's watchdog, inspector general looked at this entire situation thoroughly, involving the text messages and what did he find? he found the phones, iphones, were wiped when they left, just like every single justice department employee. in other words, page and strzok are not special in this way. there are other phones, samsung phones that the inspector general was able to recover the text messages.
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so there were none that were missing on those phones but it hasn't stopped him from repeating this lie over and over again and banking on the fact that nobody is bothering to read the inspector general. >> it is a pretty horrendous thing for the president to accuse mueller of that. >> sure is. it's not different from how the president has accused, you know, the mueller investigation of all sorts of misconduct that has not been -- that has not been born out. but, you know, it's just like the rape allegation against the president last week from jean carroll. we've heard these things so many times that we lose our ability to shock and be focused on them. >> everybody, stand by. more breaking news we're following. i'll speak about this and a lot more with president trump's senior adviser and son-in-law, jared kushner. mega-3 power for your whole body. now with an antioxidant blend for great sleep, refreshed skin and less stress. one softgel. 7 benefits.
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. >> breaking news tonight. want to talk to the key member of his inner circle and family in the middle east try ing ing revive the peace process with economic support for the palestinians. jared kushner, son-in-law's senior adviser to the president. thank you so much for joining us. i want to ask you questions. let me get your reaction to some of the news of the day, involving specifically robert mueller, who has agreed to testify publicly before congress. president trump is calling this harassment. if he believes the mueller report totally exonerates him, why wouldn't he want robert mueller to testify publicly? >> when this whole nonsense with collusion with russia came out i
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was the first person to say i'm happy to cooperate with any investigations. we testified and the conclusions came out exactly as we said they would. this whole thing is a waste of time. we're here in bahrain, trying to move forward america's policy and strengthen our country. >> the mueller report did conclude the russians did interfere with our election. it wasn't a complete waste of time, was it? >> i don't thiching that's why they're calling him but it's kind of neither here nor there. >> let's get to another sensitive issue right now. you've also been tasked by the president to work on immigration. i'm sure you've seen the horrific photo of the father and daughter who drawned crossing the rio grande. and you've heard about the deplorable conditions for migrant children, that kids don't have toothpaste, soap, toddlers don't have diapers. you're a father, a man of faith.
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why isn't the trump administration doing more to protect the lives of kids? >> i don't think that's a fair question, wolf. the president has been very clear about the fact that it's a very dangerous journey to cross the border. he is trying to get people to cross legally and come into this country in a legal way. our border patrol agents who do an amazing job for this country, trying to keep all of us safe, are totally overwhelmed. the numbers we've seen have been extraordinary. we've got a great economy. a lot of people want to come. over the last months we've put measures in place and we're starting to see those numbers go down thanks to the president's leadership and the deal we made with mexico. we have some proposals and we've been talking to the hill and i think we'll see that people who want to come to this country can come in a safe way. president trump is in favor of legal immigration. he wants people to come to this country but legally. obviously, paying coyotes and making these crossings, people are putting their lives at risk and they should not do that. it is not a safe thing to do. >> meantime as these kids are here in the united states, whether they came in legally, illegally, shouldn't they at
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least be able to take a bath, shower or have clean water and soap? shouldn't they at least be taken care of? >> yeah, absolutely. i know border patrol is doing the best they can to accommodate. they were not set up to deal with the unusual flows they're getting right now. they've asked congress for more resources to be able to do the job in the way that the president wants them to do it, which is humaneely. they're doing their best. we're working hard with them every day to try to improve the situation. >> i want to move on. will the president sign this house passed bill to give more funding, to make sure that these kids are taken care of? >> it's something he's looking at. there's a bunch of different versions and clauses being discuss buddy he's looking at it. >> let's move to the conference of bahrain where you are now. you've been working to build support for middle east peace plan. first of all, why are there no official israeli or palestinian representatives at the conference? >> yeah. so, first of all, we had representatives from all the muslim countries in the region.
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we had a lot of european countries. we had a tremendous conference where we laid out our economic plan a couple of days ago. it got alot of great acclaim from people. the consensus from the finance ministers and business community is that it's an achievable plan, ambitious plan from a business sense but bringing these business leaders together who are here, they look at this and say this can be done. we're all here, very enthused that we can make this region better if there is a peace agreement. >> but the two parties that matter the most aren't there, officials from the israeli government or palestinian authority. why? >> yeah. so we invited the palestinian and israeli business communities. they both attended. when we invited the palestinian business community, the palestinian government made a statement they didn't want to attend. based on that, we did not invite the israeli government as well, because we wanted to keep it balanced. i think that was a big strategic mistake and i think people are leaving here, seeing this is a very thoughtful plan, detailed plan. the president in this region is known for keeping his word.
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he promised he would move the embassy. he did it. he promised to get out of the flawed iran deal. did he it. he promised to defeat isis and take back the caliphate. he has done that. the president wants to do everything he can to keep israel's security strong in the long run and that means trying to approach a deal. he has been very serious about the efforts to do that. >> of the proposed $50 billion price tag you put forward for the palestinians and that money going today in jordan, egypt, lebanon, how much is actually coming from the united states? >> it's something we're going to look at. we were big donors to the palestinians in the past. we've stopped that, since we stopped communicating with them, we didn't feel america's aid is an entitlement. we're looking at that. i think we would be willing to be a contributor if there is a peace deal. what i know today from all the countries that were here, there's a lot of enthusiasm about doing it. the money that goes into this plan is less money than the palestinians are getting on an annual basis. problem is that there's not a lot of accountability with where
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that money goes. this would be much more productive, would go into industry and trickle down. the money going in now benefits a few and doesn't solve the problem. we're >> lemtd pursue press you on that because the conference is clearly designed to improve the economic life of the palestinian people. why did the trump administration cut off aid to palestinian on the west baepg including aid for hospitals and schools in. >> yes, so president trump is obviously a businessman and serious negotiator. when we made the move to move the embassy to jerusalem, the palestinian authority made the decision that they did not want to engage with the administration. and we said that's fine. but you can't not engage with us and then expect us to keep giving money. i think it was a rational move the president made and he is opening to reconsidering that at the right time if there is progressen a peace deal. you've been covering this swrags a long time, a lot of people had ideas and brought effort food
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forward but haven't gotten far. we are in a position where the president is putting forward a political plan. he put forward a detailed 140-panl plan with detail that's getting wietd acclaim. people think it's very competent, very smart, very thoughtful and it could solve the problem process. the president is taking a problem that's been stuck for too long and trying to create a way for a new paradigm to move forward. >> why did the administration, jared cut off aid to the united nations agency that traditionally helped the palestinian talking u relief agency reversing what has been done for 70 years. >> how has that been working wolf is it an effective use? the ample population of a refugee is about ten years. the only group that's been a refugee class for 70 years is the one that has the special organization at the un called unrap it perpetuates the problem. we put forward a poltsen to self-sustain ability empower the private secretary rp and get
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people jobs. right now they are giving handouts to people and paying them for the to work. they have a 30% unemployment rate in west bank and gaza because of bad governance. the major consensus it at the conference is that this plan if complemented is doable, can work but in order to happen you need the right environment but you need go ahead governance. if you look the poland absouth korea, japan, you look at the great examples of wear they've been able to create economic transformation in the past 70 years they've had a willing government that really had the ability to execute these plans. it's not easy to achieve prosperity. it's very hard. butway we've done is now created the framework to give them this opportunity. and you know wraer we're hopeful they will do the right thing and if they care about the people they will embrace and try to find ways to make compromiseds to move forward. >> does the united states still support what's called a two-state solution, israel living alongside a new state of palestine as as you know that was the position president clinton announced when he signed
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the israeli palestinian agreement in 19923 on the south lawn of the white house. >> so in coming new to this approach two years aigt i realized there is a lot of vernacular people use that has not effectively led to a solution to the problem. let me tell you what we want to see. we want to see good security for the israelis. good security for palestinian, an environment where people can live and have opportunity. we want an environment where capital can come in and invest jobs can be created. we want to see an area where people with did respect each other religions and worship freely a place where people can live with dignity and have all the opportunities that people deserve to have. so, again i think while roll out the politicsle plan with you will a the details about a 60 page document at this point. and again it's probably the most detail proposal put out hopefully after seeing the economic vision we put out which is the first work product we have released which was 140 pages full of specific details you'll recognize that the peace
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plan that we put out is of a similar quality work product. >> are you saying jared that the pallettenens in the end won't necessarily have an independent state? >> yeah, what we're trying to do is figure out not just the signing ceremony we're trying to figure out what is a sustainable situation where people can live together and have opportunity going forward. that's why we led with the economic plan. if you don't have a passion pennsylvania pathway forward as something to get excited about is doesn't matter the peace agreement it's not sustained. we wanted people focused first on what the ended game is from there we'll lay out the prem on the political issues. i don't want to get ahead of it by giving you details. what i can tell you it's an operational document for how the two people can live together in a harmonious and respectful way. >> can you at least say there will be a state of palestine. >> what i can say is the plan we put out will dramatically improve the lives of the palestinian people, improve the lives of israeli people allowing everyone in the region to oksa focus on the priorities which is
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the priorities for president trump more ferk. keeping everyone safe and the opportunity to be prospersous .right now in the recently the president laid out the biggest threat is iran. and countries work on interests. we're seeing the arab countries and israel have a similar threat to security in iran. and they have similar aspirpgss for their people which is to allow them to have economy, have investment and create more jobs and have opportunities to live better lives. so i do think there is a lot of common interest in the region. and thanks to the president's leadership i think there is a lot of will from people to try and see if neck get this problem solved after so many years of it staying unsolved. >> but how will the economic plan work when all is said and done if the arab states and all arab states even if knows who want to fun the initiative they all insist that there should be what is called a two-state solution with at least part of a new palestine having at least part of jerusalem as its capital? if they don't see that are they going to continue to fund the
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program. >> i guess you've been wolf blitzer because you're not a patient plan. i think what we have to do is laid out the economic mission. i hope you spent time to go through it. the gulf states and people here are enthusiastic about it when we laid it out weptd this could only be implemented if there is an acceptable peace agreement. we're laying out the principles, our peace proposal again this wasn't just our ideas that we cook up ourselves. we traveled extensive at thely through the region, spoken with israelis and palestinians and arabs and europeans tlookd at the work done in the past process and trudy to come up with what we think is the most viable realistic option that will lead to people getting a better life. i don't want to get caught in old school vernacular but i think the principles and concepts will lead to progress. at the right tiept time the president will decide to release that and we'll come back on the she and talk about it then. >> as you know, the u.s. ambassador to israel david friedman, he says that israel potentially could annex at least some of the jewish settlements on the west bank.
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do you agree? is that the official position of the united states? >> yeah, we'll be putting out our official position with the peace plan. i think that if you go into his statement i think that it was in a different way. but i think that we'll see what happens over the next couple months and i think the next thing happening will be that we'll release the peace plan and people are will react accordingly. hopefully both governments will be rational and constructive and put the prioritization how to make people's lives better first. if they do that we can make progress on an issue that's very, very hard where people have not made progress in a very, very long time. >> are you currently right now talking about any officials of the palestinian authority? >> wolf, you know i don't disclose who i talk to. again, one of the reasons i think we've gotten this far is nothing leaked from our discussions. nothing leaked from the plan. there's been many ins tans in the past where discussions or parts of the plan have leaked and that's killed efforts. over two years we held one of the most could havested documents in the world confidential. and we're going to continue to keep the documents confidential and also the people we talk with
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confidential. >> as you know, the president of the united states has been in office two and a half years. and he enacted a lot of foreign policy. is there what we call a trump doctrine? >> i do think so. i think he is looking to find a way to get the world to focus on problems. i think that the president has fundamentally reshifted the way the world thinks. there were a lot of things people were pretending weren't problems that were real problems. the president is calling those out allowing people to finally come together to solve them. i think the president is focused on america first, which is he assumed that every other country is fighting for their citizens and he wants to be doing the same thing for us. he has been rebalk trade deals, had some historic successes. we just got a successful deal with the usmca made a great deal with canada and mexico one of the best trade deals for america. bringing half a million jobs back to our country and increase our gdp. and so hopefully congress will pass that soon. but these things are very hard to do. and the president campaigned on these things has been talking about these things for a long
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time and been executing these things high pressure right now we're in talks with china. the president thinks we've been treated unfairly in that relationship and we are looking at a way to find something good for china but good for america to rebillion the relationship too. so i think the trump doctrine is about how do you make sure that america's place in the world is one where we get a fair deal with other people and when we're not the president talks about it. he's gotten nato to pay over $$100 billion more and getting in our allies to pay their fair share. >> jared kushner, i know you're busy over there. good luck with this peace process. we'll watch it very, very closely. thanks so much for joining us. >> great wolf a pleasure to be with you. have a great day. >> finally tonight some breaking baby news. check out the newest member of the situation room family. he will la rose! gary one day old and the pride of and joy of senior produce jennifer rhys o. he will la rose couldn't wait to meet her parents arrived early but at healthy 6 pounds 12 ounces jenn tells us everyone is
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doing well and feeling strong. can't wait to meet he will la strong. concongrats to jenn and jeff and their family. thanks for watching i'm wolf blitz ner the situation room. erin burnt outfront starts right now. outfront next a defining moment for democrats. the 2020 candidates gearing up for the first debate. all eyes tonight on elizabeth warren. plus president trump blaming democrats for the father and daughter who drowned at the border. tonight a top republican senator who got emotional about the photo today outfront what's his solution in and president trump unleashing harchd afternoon ached ono attack on the fed chairman. why is he taking down his own people? let's go outfront. and good evening i'm erin burnett. all eyes on senator elizabeth warren. the surging candidate standing center stage on the first debate of 2020. warren taking the spotlight today visiting a detention center in florida aft

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