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duh. >> really a great movie. the movie premieres this sunday night 9:00 p.m. eastern time and pacific time only here on cnn. thanks so much for joining me today. wish you a very happy july 4th. hope you get to enjoy it with family and friends. at this hour with kate bolduan starts now. ♪ hello, everyone i'm kate bolduan. thanks so much for joining us for a special fourth of july version edition of "at this hour." a question to start your day, where is the best place to spend the fourth of july? my answer of course would be anywhere with a grill and a pool. we weren't asking my opinion. if you're running for president, your answer might be slightly different. independence, iowa, perhaps? that is where we will find joe biden this morning. but the real fourth of july fireworks are between biden and senator kamala harris right now. harris is also in iowa, a whole slew of other democrats running for president. but while the two, let's call them both front-runners right now are meeting voters, their
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campaigns are picking up right where the candidates left off on the debate stage last week. let us go to iowa, cnn senior national correspondent is following kamala harris, and arlette saenz is following joe biden. first to you, kyang, what's going on? >> reporter: the harris campaign is calling this attraction. to divert attention from vice president's own words on bussing in the 1970s. they say that this question that was lobbed at senator harris yesterday by reporter was much more theoretical and that's how she interpreted it. that the question was, do you support mandatory bussing? she said yes. then she followed up with this -- >> bussing is a tool. among many that should be considered when we address the issue, which is a very current issue as well as a past issue of desegregation in american schools. so i think of bussing as being in the tool box of what is
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available and what can be used for the goal of desegregating america's schools. i believe that any tool that is in the tool box should be considered by a school district. >> reporter: that launched a back and forth on twitter starting with joe biden's spokesperson, the campaign communications director, kate beddingfield tweeted, quote, it's disappointing that senator harris chose to distort vice president biden's position on bussing, particularly now that she is tying herself in knots trying to not answer the very question she posed to him. and then a snapback from ian sams, the harris spokesperson, he tweeted, quote, vice president biden said who the hell do we think we are that the only way a black man or woman can learn is if they rub shoulders with my white child. he called bussing an asinine concept. come on, y'all are better than this. that y'all being directed to the
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biden campaign. now, harris campaign says you cannot compare what happened in the 1970s when harris was a child to the situation of schooling today. so that's what she was trying to explain, that federally mandated bussing, the conditions back then, cannot be lifted up and placed here. she supports it as one of a number of ways to deal with schooling today, kate. that is what i'm hearing from the campaign. >> great to see you, kyung, thank you so much. let's get over to alette following the biden campaign. i saw a shot of you chasing biden down a parade route, well done. his campaign would not be continuing this fight if they did not think it was the right strategy. what are you hearing? >> reporter: no, kate, they wouldn't be. just the fact that you had the deputy campaign manager kate beddingfield last night starting this twitter war of words between the biden campaign and the harris campaign shows just how important they find keeping
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the focus on this issue right now, particularly on the way that kamala harris is explaining her current position on bussing. now so far this back and forth has only taken place between the campaign aides. what we're waiting to see is if biden or harris directly themselves will try to engage on this topic today. we could be hearing from joe biden short while after this parade route here in independence. he's just wrapping up or running up and down the parade route. kamala harris is out in indianala, iowa, just a few hours. really they're one of the many candidates who have descended here on the hawkeye state for the fourth of july holiday. i was running up and down with joe biden on the parade route. have you been trading for this parade? he said i love parades. when i asked him to compare his event to president trump's event over in washington, d.c. today he said that today is about bringing the country and people together. so, we'll see going forward whether he or kamala harris might be engaging on this issue
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of bussing directly today on this fourth of july holiday. kate? >> let us see the answer to your question, of course, when you say have you been training for this parade, the answer is always my entire life. that's the answer, arlette. thank you so much. kyung, thanks, guys. let's see what happens in iowa today. if you want to know why joe biden and kamala harris's campaigns are battling it out, look no further than the polls, my friends, where we saw a major reset this week. so much came out it is worth a closer look. for that of course we turn to cnn's harry. great to see you. >> happy fourth of july. i'm heading up to my moms afterwards for fried chicken and corn on the cob. >> i'm going to point out i was not invited. moving on from that point which we'll deal with off camera take me through the major national polls. a lot came out. what does it tell us? >> yeah. basically we have our cnn poll, quinnipiac poll, abc washington post poll and there are some differences between them.
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quinnipiac and second harris 17 and 20% and back at 13% in the abc washington post poll and sanders was in second place 19 versus 14 and 13 the other two. this is confusing a little bit right you have a little bit of a different picture. of course i keep in mind these mar jins of error running across the bottom of your screen. they are there for a reason. they are there for a reason. all this stuff is within the margin of generally see biden drop a little bit since the base. we'll get to versus harris is up and sanders is in that place. >> okay. so with this in mind, how much has the race shifted post debate? >> this puts it all together in a nice simple slide. we like simple slides, don't we, like, folks? >> very simple people. >> we have a predebate, post debate biden dropped five points. 30%, at 25% now. harris is well up she's up 10 points. sanders dropped a little bit and buttigieg dropped a little bit. right now our standings are biden in first, harris in second
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and then sanders and warren very close together for third and fourth place. >> so these numbers tell us exactly what we need to know, why biden and kamala harris are now gloves off, if you will. they are going after each other because it's a real fight. >> it's a real fight. this is a much closer race. if joe biden before the debate was a clear front-runner, now you know he's up -- >> he knows he needed to make a change. >> he needed to make a change because if this continues going forward in the next debate it will not be good for him. >> this is where we dive into harry's project for the day which is what i love. he is now deep diving into what history shows us about what the past runner up, what happens to them in the future? >> yes. okay. so this is -- i'm a mad scientist, i go into my lab, i type it out -- >> mad, yes. keep going. >> okay. i looked at when a former runner up runs again, sanders of course is behind in all the polls. when they're leading in the polls, those runner ups end up winning the nomination the next
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time around 5 out of 5 times like 100%. bernie sanders, they won 1 out of 18 times, 13% when they're trailing. the real person in trouble in bernie sanders is behind the eight ball at this point. >> at this point on july 4th, harry is sinking bernie sanders campaign. >> july 4th is just like any other day for me. i'm in the numbers except maybe i'm by a pool when i'm in the numbers. >> that's a mental image i love. great to see you, harry. happy 4th. >> you as well. this programming note for you, cnn exclusive former vice president joe biden and his wife dr. jill biden will be sitting down with chris cuomo that interview airs tomorrow morning at 6 and 8:00 a.m. eastern only on cnn. also new this morning, a declaration of independence of sorts or actually in real life. michigan congressman announcing in an op ed he is leaving the republican party. he's the only republican you'll remember member of congress to break from the party and call for donald trump's impeachment.
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and now he says he's rejecting the entire two party system as well. let me read you part of what amash writes. in recent years i've become disenchanted with party politics and frightened what i see. the two-party system evolved into aexistential threat to constitution. i'm declaring my independence and leaving the republican party. one republican quick to say good riddance to him is president trump who didn't miss the opportunity to call amash one of the dumbest and most disloyal men in congress. joining me -- disloyal in congress is saying a lot. just dawned on me. joining me now is phil mattingly and doug high, former communications director for the republican national committee. phil, what is justin amash doing here? was this inevitable? what do you think is going on? >> yeah, inevitable is the right word. what this has been a continuation of a slow rolling that has turned into a very deliberate over the course of
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the last couple months break with the republican party. context here is important. the context of justin amash, he was never really mainstream republican. he said he associated more with libertarian ideology than he did traditional republican ideology. he was all on the periphery, often a thorn in the side of republican leaders. i think what you've seen in spades over the course of the last couple months with his decision to break with every other republican seemingly in america and say that the president after reading the mueller report has committed potential impeachable offenses with his decision to leave the freedom caucus, ridgedly caucus he helped found, all of these things led to this point. the big question now is what are his next steps politically, does he still plan to run for the house, does he plan to run for president. what happens now that he no longer is a man with a party as a home. >> yeah. doug, i do want your take on how much amash was a thorn in your side for so long. but also on the point right
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where phil left off, i mean, he's the only republican who called for the president to be impeached. he went home, had this town hall to cheers and jeers and now we have republicans in his home district in michigan who have begun to line up to challenge him in a primary, if he would be running in a republican primary. the fact that he had so many primary challengers lining up, do you think that's what's motivating this? >> even on the fourth of july, politics plays a role here and it shouldn't be surprising. so much of what justin amash said over the past year and year and a half about president trump as a republican i agreed with, but the problem and this is what i saw firsthand as i was trying to duck question after question from phil mattingly who would chase me and other staffers down the hall is when justin amash and other freedom caucus members were opposing whatever plan of action house leadership put forth, they were always better at diagnosing problems than they were than coming up with solutions. our two-party system is broken. i agree with justin amash.
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it has serious problems. okay. how are you going to solve that? i'm taking my ball and going home because i don't like donald trump isn't enough. you can't just identify problems you have to come up with solutions. amash has fallen apart or fallen short so many times in his congressional career. he's always relished that role of being a thorn in the side. okay. but he hasn't really a strong legislative record. his only bill he's passed is renaming a post office. so where are the solutions? and i think that's what voters whether you support trump or oppose trump, that's what voters always want to hear and that's what seems short. >> so the other option is amash ends his op w-ed with this. i'm asking to join me in rejecting the partisan loyalties and rhetoric that divide and dehumanize us. i'm asking you to believe we can do better than this two-party system and work toward it, if you continue to take america for granted, if we continue to take america for granted, we will lose it. so, what do you think the chances are, then, that amash
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says, forget congress, i'm going to make an independent run against trump? >> yeah, a natural koe da for that statement you just read and that's why i'm running for president of the united states under the libertarian ticket. he's been coy about this. he's been asked by reporters. i haven't thought about it but wouldn't put it off the table. he is going to wait and see next steps. one of the interesting parts about the op-ed he doesn't say what he's going to do next. real questions given the fact that the trump team would like to support whoever is in his district and won't have nrc's support any more whether he can win, libertarian is what he is. the movement would like him out there, i think, in talking to people what he decides is still an open question. >> i would just like to say in a world -- in a political universe where so much seems to be baked in, expected, we know the ending before the beginning, it is -- it's always interesting to hear what justin amash is going to say. this op-ed adds to that. thanks, guys.
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coming up for us next, the justice department isn't getting this fourth of july off. they're working overtime. so attorneys in the justice department now that president trump told them to find a way to get a question about the question about citizenship into the 2020 census. but can they give him what he wants? and also this, fighter jets, flyovers, tanks, military bands and white house aides working hard to make sure america's salute to celebration goes off without a hitch. people arriving for the parade. what are they excited about? we'll go live to the national mall next. y you'll tell your grandkids about it. and they'll say, "grandpa just tell us about humpty dumpty". and you'll say, "he broke his pelvis or whatever, now back to my creamy heinz mayonnaise". heinz mayonnaise, unforgettably creamy.
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census. department of commerce and department of justice are working very hard on this, even on the fourth of july. so, with all of this back and forth and the supreme court decision to boot, what happens now? joining me right now is cnn's arianne. i said i thought the president was basically bluffing. firing off just another tweet with no follow through. i clearly was wrong. no officials say they're looking for the way they're saying it is a legally available path. what happened? >> well, that was a remarkable reversal based on the the president's tweet. the department of justice and the commerce secretary had told a federal judge that that question would not be on the questionnaire. and then suddenly the president launches that tweet and he took the department of justice by surprise, but he also took the federal judge by surprise. the president said that that was fake news, keep in mind, kate, fake news meaning that his own department of justice had delivered fake news to a federal judge.
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the judge called the parties in at this conference call and he said, look, what is going on here? i'm on twitter. i follow the president and the president has just tweeted something that is absolutely contradictory to what you told me in court. and department of justice attorney said, yes, there had been a reversal. what he said to the judge was kind of extraordinary. he said, the tweet this morning was the first i had heard of the president's position on this issue, just like the plaintiff's and, your honor, i do not have a deeper understanding of what that means at this juncture other than what the president has tweeted. i'm doing my absolute best to figure out what is going on. so the judge basically told the government, go figure out what's going on and come back to me on friday. and we're being told now there are now several options on the table that are being discussed on this fourth of july. one is an executive order. the president would come forward with an executive order saying he had the authority. i did speak to a government official just a little while ago
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who said they think that that is not realistic. another option would be adding to the census, somehow either an addendum or supplement to a add the question or maybe going back to the supreme court for some kind of motion to reconsider. so they are working behind closed doors right now, trying to figure out the way forward that the president seems to be requesting, kate. >> yeah. another remarkable chain of events to see how this is going to shake out. we literally have no clue. thank so much. >> thank you. cnn legal analyst paul cow wan is joining me. help me out, paul. justice officials the terminology they are using is they are looking for a quote unquote legally available path. is it clear that one exists? arianne listed out the options being considered, but from your perspective, what do you think? >> well, they're in a very difficult position because justice roberts indicated that he could not accept the reason
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that was initially given by the trump administration for why this citizenship question was being asked. he said it was a pretext question. he did, however, leave the door open for additional information to be supplied, giving a better constitutional reason to ask the question. so the real thing is now how will the court react if the commerce department comes back and says, well, we did have other reasons, which we didn't mention, in the initial aspect of the lawsuit. and the court might very well accept that. the reason i say they might is because the vote split on this was very, very close. roberts -- who as you know is chief justice, and is a conservative, joined four liberals to reach the result throwing out the question. >> i hear you, paul. >> roberts alone can be convinced that the new explanation is acceptable, the conservatives would have a 5
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majority and they might up sold the question. >> i hear you, though. but if three separate federal courts and the supreme court did not believe the reason the administration offered up for adding the question, justice roberts said the sole stated reason seems to have been contrived is what he wrote. it basically seems to be that they thought that wilbur ross was lying when he put this forth. and so in that front, like i just wonder if they think they were lying in the first place, they had a contrived reason was the original reason, why then are they going to believe the next reason that is offered up? >> well, you're giving some great arguments here. and you're thinking like a normal person, but we're talking about how the court is looking at the census. and this thing is a complex issue. it really is. and they -- roberts might be looking for a reason to get back on board with other conservatives to permit the question. i think a lot of people don't
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realize, i will tell you, that the census arises from article 1 of the u.s. constitution, which requires that it be conducted every ten years. in the past, there have been some pretty bizarre questions on the census. i was looking back in time. at one time there was a question about whether you were mexican or not. and you know why that question was eliminated by the courts at one point because -- or i should say by the administration because it offended the mexican government. so, we have seen a lot of bizarre things happen with respect to the census. one other thing that i would add here, kate, and that is they have until the end of 2020 to complete the census legally. i wouldn't at all be surprised to see the commerce department come back and say, you know something, we have re-evaluated and we can still get the census done if the court reconsiders our reasons for including this question. >> and of course this will be after they said they were hard up against a deadline many times over. you have to love a self-imposed
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and let's be honest obviously must be an artificial deadline that a lots of people are posing. the fight will continue, you can be assured of that. it's good to see you, paul. >> good to see you. i'm off to the beach, kate. you have a great day. >> have fun. thanks for rubbing it in, buddy. i'm holding down the fort. don't you worry. great to see you. speaking of fun these days the annual fourth of july parade down constitution avenue in the capitol is getting under way in just a few minute. live pictures from the parade route where people are starting to line the streets. you can see them there. and crowds are already showing up at the very same time in different part of the capitol, crowds are starting to show up already for president trump's salute to america celebration that's taking place later tonight. we'll take you live to the national mall next. has been excellent. they really appreciate the military family and it really shows. with all that usaa offers why go with anybody else? we know their rates are good, we know that they're always going to take care of us. it was an instant savings and i should have changed a long time ago.
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it was funny because when we would call
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cast or that they weren't democrats or they were doing -- i mean, this is about today. and that's what i'm going to talk about. >> can you reflect the reality that the democratic party and the country's change around race just even in the last five years. >> absolutely positively i do as much as or more than anyone. >> you have been absent from the homestead facility last week
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when other democratic candidates made visits. what do you say to critics? >> i was doing other things. i'm going to -- i've been to the border before. i'm going back to those places. i have seen it. i'll be back homestead or down on the border. i'm going to be there. look, the idea, guys, is that i'm not following anyone else's rules. i'm following my rules. and what i'm going to do and how i'm going to make my case to the american people. and let them decide. >> it's about -- do you think that your party would imperil a chance at meeting president trump next year if you come out opposing private health care insurance. does that worry you. >> say that again? if the party comes out for eliminating private health care insurance, do you think that could -- >> that's not my position. my position is we have a great -- barack obama and i spent a lot of time and did something he did something no other president has done, he built an incredible foundation for our health care, the affordable care act, obamacare as the republicans call it. i'm proud to be associated with
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it. what we should do is build on that. it took a long time to get there. it's solid. it's put 100,000 -- 100 million people out there and who are in a position where they had pre-existing conditions in america, that in fact, they're all covered now. has put 20 million people got coverage that didn't. the numbers have gone. we have done something really good. the first thing i would do as president is go out and say, look, here is the deal. we're going to eliminate all the changes that this administration made trying to kill obama care, number one. we're going to add to it a public option. the public option says whether have employer-based insurance or private insurance or you're in the exchange, you can join up for a medicaid -- medicare-like provision. >> right. >> in the law and not dump 300 million people on medicare all of a sudden. you would be able if you don't like your employer-based health insurance, well, you can sign up and get this other plan. but if you like it, you're able to keep it.
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that to me seems -- i'm opposed to any republican who tries to take down obama care and oppose democrats who try to do it. i think it's a mistake. >> he said that you wanted to focus on the future in the debate. now that you have come out of the first debate, how do you plan to go forward to the second debate? what changes do you need to make to your preparation? >> look, it depends on whether or not the rest of the team on the stage wants to talk about the future. here is what i'm not going to do, i'm not going to go back and use the same tactic they're trying to use. if you notice, i'm the guy everybody is talking about. you know? i mean, like somehow -- any way, i'm not going to go back and talk about the record of anyone from ten, 20, 30 years ago. there's a lot out there. there's a lot of people would like to do differently than they did. everything is lost in context as well. context of the time is something that the vast majority of people don't know from 25, 30 years ago. so you can easily distort it
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particularly in 60 seconds if you have 30 seconds to respond. and so, what i'm going to do is answer the questions i'm asked and try to move the debate where i think the democratic party needs to go in order for any one of us to win. how are we going to distinguish ourselves from all that trump stands for. what are we going to do to bring back the middle class and working poor. what are we going to do to restore some sense of civility and honor and decency to this country. look, the fourth of july, the fourth of july in the past i was raised and i bet none of you need to answer, i'm not allowed to ask you questions, you were all raised to think fourth of july is to celebrate our togetherness what we did, what they did on philadelphia was they said, we're bringing disparate groups of people together. colonies that didn't like one another very much. they brought them together. it says, we the people, we the people. and it talks about honor and dignity and it's missing now and it's hurting us terribly,
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terribly around the country. i'm going to be speaking about this little later in marshalltown. any way, so any way. >> are you happy with your debate performance? >> yes. >> what do you have to say to those who -- >> what about justin amash leaving the republican party? >> pardon me? >> justin amash said he will become an independent and leave the republican party. do you have any reaction? >> where there's faith there's hope. >> sir, you have been dropping of the polls. what do you make of the polls where you're dropping? >> i'm still way ahead. >> what do you think -- [ all speaking at once ] >> thanks, everybody. >> we have to run. >> all right. listening right there to joe biden taking a break from the parade route to speak with reporters saying a few very interesting things, talking about a lot of topics. making the case, laments he wants to debate the conversation to move on from the conversation that has been happening since
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the last debate, which was about his record on civil rights and his record on bussing, him saying he's ready for everyone to move on. couple notes, though, i do want to mark something that he said that we'll have to watch if he sticks with this when he says i'm not going to go back and talk about the record of someone ten, 20, 30 years ago. let's see if that sticks. we'll have much more on this special edition of "at this hour" special fourth of july edition right after this. i switched to miralax for my constipation. stimulant laxatives forcefully stimulate the nerves in your colon. miralax works with the water in your body to unblock your system naturally. and it doesn't cause bloating, cramping, gas, or sudden urgency. miralax. look for the pink cap. sun care is self care.
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president donald trump is hoping for what he's called the show of a lifetime. a fourth of july celebration on the mall. democrats are saying that he's politicizing, though, what is traditionally a non-partisan event and wasting millions of dollars on it. well, top brass in the military will be at the president's side tonight. others are concerned. the former head of u.s. central command general telling "the washington post" this -- put troops out there so we can thank them. leave tanks for red square. so what will the president say tonight? and what's happening on the mall today? cnn's kylie atwood is in the middle of it for us all. hey, kylie. what's going on there? >> reporter: well, even though there has been controversy leading up to this event, it's been clouded in criticism really as you mentioned about the high cost or about polite sizing the military or about making this into a trump rally. but folks that we have talked to here on the ground have come from across the country and come from california, come from
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washington state, colorado, florida and despite the fact that some are trump supporters and some are not trump supporters, there is an atmosphere of celebration here for the fourth of july, for the holiday that this is. now, when you ask them why they've come to washington, a lot of them say it's their first time. it is president trump who drew them here. he asked them to come and so they came. and they're excited to see the military weaponry of the united states that will be on display and trump has talked about time and time again even tweeting this morning, teasing the military flyover by air force one. but they're headed into the national mall right behind us. they have to go through intense security to get there because he will be speaking on the lincoln memorial, which is not the traditional route. usually folks, the presidency, they speak at the white house. but they are headed in through security and they're bringing everything with them. they've got chairs. they have sunscreen. they have snacks. and they're going to be there for hours leading up to the
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president's speech, which will be tonight around 6:30 p.m. >> kylie, thanks so much. i really appreciate it. we'll see what the president has to say tonight as kylie said at 6:30. cnn will be carrying his remarks live. still to come, dramatically different stories a government watchdog calling facilities for migrants at the border a ticking time bomb. that's a government report. but a dhs doctor now tells cnn that he's proud of the medical care migrants have received. more on that next. the greatness of an suv? is it to carry cargo... or to carry on a legacy? its show of strength... or its sign of intelligence? in crossing harsh terrain... or breaking new ground? this is the time to get an exceptional offer on the mercedes of your midsummer dreams at the mercedes-benz summer event, going on now. lease the gla 250 suv for just $329 a month at the mercedes-benz summer event. mercedes-benz. the best or nothing.
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♪ once again today we are hearing two dramatically different accounts of the conditions inside migrant detention centers at the border. dhs official who is also a physician telling cnn, though, not giving his name, the following -- says i'm a doctor and a parent. i take care of everyone in our care like i would want my own children taken care of. the medical care has been good so far and i'm proud of what we have done. but then there's this, of course, drawings from children just released from one of those border facilities, showing their
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perspective. showing people behind bars. people in cages. that's on top of the images that were released in a government-produced report this week, calling conditions so overcrowded these facilities, calling it a ticking time bomb. joining me right now is dr. coleen craft, the past president of the american academy of pediatrics. doctor, thank you for being here again. >> good morning. >> you hear what this doctor with dhs has told cnn yesterday they're proud of the medical care being given to the migrant children in their custody. we don't know what facility this doctor is working ats or talking about. given what you have seen, should they be? >> i think that the people who are working with the families coming across the border are doing the best that they can, but we have evidence that a lot more could be done. so, we have worked to give our message that we need pediatricians there to see these kids, to train the medical
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personnel, to monitor the conditions that can make these children even sicker. and to be on site so that these kids get the care they need from a pediatric expert. >> yeah. about these drawings that were released by the american academy of pediatrics, they're so sad. what do you see in these pictures? >> we often use art therapy to help out kids who have been traumatized. and this is really an example of we allow kids to tell us what they see and what they feel and put it on paper. so that we can help them through some of the trauma that they have experienced. but i see trauma there. i see sad experiences, scary experiences, places that >> this is definitely something that jumps right off the paper when you look at those images. i was thinking this morning a year ago when you and i first spoke, it was the height of the family separation crisis. you told me that the academy was reaching out and offering
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services to help dhs and help care for these migrant children. has anything come of that offer? >> so there have been some relationships formed. in fact the last group of a.p. folks who went to the border went with cbp. they have had the a.p. make an training tape for emergency medical personnel and that's being used in their training. that's a great first step but it's not enough. it's one thing -- you know, you've looked at a youtube video on how to bake a cake or pull an engine, but it's not the same as having somebody beside you training and making sure that you're doing the right thing. and so we still advocate that we have pediatricians on the ground in the centers training the personnel, monitoring conditions. >> as a pediatrician, if they would allow you in, besides training videos, which are wonderful but obviously not
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enough, what would be your first priority if you and other pediatricians were allowed in? >> the first priority would be to look at the conditions and make recommendations on how children should be treated while they're there, because we've made the recommendation that children don't belong in detention. but to look at that environment and make some health and safety recommendations first and foremost. and then secondly, to work with the personnel who are there and train them how to recognize an acutely sick child, a severely sick child from a moderately sick child. >> yeah. for a lot of folks, and i hate to say this, but it does seem that when it comes to the crisis that we are seeing, it's out of sight, out of mind for a lot of folks. especially when it comes to the border crisis and the children that are being held there. i know that it's a concern of yours when you talk about this. what do you want americans to understand about the urgency of this situation? >> i think america has to decide
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something very fundamental. how do we value the lives of children? and we start there because if we value the lives of children, then any child who comes into our care needs proper nutrition, proper sleep, proper places to play, good environments, healthy environments, pediatric care. and despite everything that's gone on in the immigration debate, we can start with taking care of children, because we foundationally believe that children have value. >> absolutely right. dr. kraft, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> thank you for being here. coming up for us, it is the nation's largest fourth of july fireworks display, and it is in new york city. new york's finest, of course, has their eyes on the ground, in the air, on the water, to make sure that the celebration goes off without a hitch. a live report, next. uh-oh, looks like someone's still nervous about buying a new house.
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let's take another live look at our nation's capital. moments ago the national independence day parade kicked off, heading right down constitution avenue. look at the crowds. hello, everybody. this is, of course, the traditional annual fourth of july celebration we've become accustomed to in washington. you see the parade route right there. not to be confused this parade route with president trump's big event that is taking place this
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evening. we'll bring that to you as well. but if you are looking for the nation's biggest fireworks display, you have to come to new york. the 43rd annual macy's fireworks extravaganza. millions of spectators will line the east river to get a firsthand look and millions more will be watching at home. cnn national correspondent brynn gingras is there. you only have several hours to wait for the big show. >> reporter: i know. why am i here now? i should be here hours from now. anyway, this is a good spot if you are in new york. the reason it's a good spot is because i'm going to zoom in. in is the iconic brooklyn bridge. for the first time in five years fireworks will actually launch from the brooklyn bridge. there's 15 packets of fireworks along that bottom part of the bridge. those are fireworks. those are going to be launching off the bridge. the reason i know that is because we had a rare opportunity yesterday to fly around with the nypd, get on the
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harbor unit boats, which are all in the water. you've been seeing them going by. and just talk about the security measures because you can imagine what an undertaking it is for them. there are thousands of officers that are going to be here on the streets, but of course also up in the air, on the water. they have been working on this plan for tonight for months. but it's really been the last week where they really ramped up and put together their plan and started doing scuba diving underneath the barges that are going to be holding the fireworks. they have been working with the emergency service guys to get the macy's people on the brooklyn bridge to put the fireworks there and sweeping this giant area of lower manhattan and brooklyn to make sure it's all safe and secure for all those spectators who are expected out here tonight. but we got that rare opportunity yesterday. we were able to talk to the chief of special operations which handles all these specialized units within the nypd. here's more of the security measures he talked about. >> there are rooftop observation
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posts that you will not see. we have explosive detective canines at every entry point so it's a great, safe event people should come out and enjoy themselves. >> reporter: of course nypd has the most incredible technology at their hands. this year they're going to be using drones. they'll be able to detect what's going on in the crowd. officers are able to talk to people from those drones if they need be. it's going to be an incredible show. of course they want to say no credible threats at all. it's going to be safe and a lot of fun. >> it's wonderful. it looks like a great day outside. thank you so much and thanks to nypd for keeping everybody safe. thanks for joining us. "inside politics" with dana bash starts now. hello and welcome to a special fourth of july edition of "inside politics."

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