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top rivals but still hesitant to return fire. >> the last thing we need is four in a circular firing squad. welcome to "inside politics". i'm phil mattingly. john king is off today. we begin with the crackdown on illegal immigration targeting migrants who entered illegally and who judges already ordered to leave. a senior immigration official say the operation focused on atlanta, baltimore, chicago, denver, houston, los angeles, miami, new york, and san francisco. the operation will target migrants who came to the u.s. recently. but officials warn others could be cut up in the sweep. california's governor with this advice to anyone here illegally. >> i just want to say to folks
that are anxious about a knock on the door, when we talk about knowing your rights, no abras la puerta. without a warrant, you do not have to open the door. without a warrant, you do not have to open the door. >> the vice president friday asked by cnn if some children will come home to find their parents gone. well, he wouldn't say no. >> what happens if the child is at day care or summer camp, the parent is arrested. is that child going to go home to an empty house? what's going to happen? . >> pamela, i -- i am very confident that the american people recognize the way forward to deal with this crisis of ill hraeu
illegal immigration is to enforce our laws and to enforce court-ordered deportation orders. >> i.c.e. agents have been mobile eyeing. rosa, to start, lay out the big picture in terms of your understanding of what the administration is trying to do here. >> reporter: well, you know, the administration is saying they are focusing on newly arrived immigrants and also criminals. but, phil, there is widespread fear because, as you know, during the obama administration, hundreds of thousands of people came out of the shadows, gave the u.s. government their address to apply for daca, for example. during the trump administration, after family separation at the border, thousands of parents, family members, gave their addresses to the u.s. government to claim those children who were separated at the border. so there is widespread fear. what's happening is advocacy organizations are trying to educate the undocumented community. i talked to advocates in illinois, iowa, florida.
they are all doing something a little different. in in a nutshell, they are having know-your-rights workshops. they have set up a hotline for when they see an i.c.e. raid. and community response teams to deploy to the raid areas, phil, to make sure people know their rights. >> rosa, you're in chicago. you have been spending the weekend with an undocumented mother worried about deportation. tell us what that has been like? >> reporter: we have been following her story since 2017. she has been checking in with i.c.e. about a decade. everything had been fine until president trump took office. i.c.e. told her she had to show up to a federal building with a plane ticket and her bags packed with a one-way ticket to mexico. well, now she's in the church and has been here two years, phil. she hasn't left the church for two years. of course this weekend, extremely stressful for her. she's been looking out her window worried that i.c.e. is
going to knock on her door. >> rosa flores in chicago. thank you very much. keep us posted on that. joining us now with their reporting and insights. this is a complicated issue on the policy and the permanent grounds. it is important to point out the dual track that the administration is going on, the almost psychological effect they are attempting to have here when it comes to enforcement of people. it is not the spaoeurt of the 1 million people. there seems to be a psychologicalest here. there is also the political as well. . >> i can't sit here and tell you what's going to happen today. it could be anything from nothing today to, you know, thousands of people rounded up. but one thing we have seen from president trump is that it's
probably not going to go very smoothly. information from the muslim ban was racked with chaos. we have had multiple government shutdowns over trying to build a wall. now the family separation issues and the detention issues we have seen at the border that you alluded to earlier. the one thing we know for sure is trump sees this as a clear political win for him. he tried to push it unsuccessfully in 2018 midterms. that backfired a little bit. there is a harvard harris poll that asked people simply, should the census be allowed to ask if you're a citizen? the trump campaign pulled that question almost word for word, put it in multiple fund-raising emails for the last couple of weeks which, again, is they see this as a win for their own base at the very least.
>> take a look at this poll from june. it asks trump voters, where the policy currently stands. 48% say it has not gone far enough. so, yes, there is a psychological piece of trying to keep people from coming to the united states. and his baker's cyst voters clearly want more. . >> that's right. i think this is an election the president and advisers believe it will be won or lost on whether he can motivate his base. i wonder if achievement still matters? does he have to accomplish some of these goals? does he have to do something to deal with the problem that his supporters see of an increase of, you know, immigration as a country or just looking like he's fighting the fight and fighting really hard against whoever the enemies are, the media, judges, democrats. is that sufficient for his base? that is a little bit of app open
question. and that is what we are seeing play out now. >> it's interesting. we showed the vice president's interview with pamela brown, part of it. part of that was taking a tour of different facilities. one that had adult males and one that had children. full disclosure, the children that were speaking to the vice president said they were taken cared for. when you look at the video, and i will show you some here, going through an overcrowded, jarring is video of males in a facility, some were unsettled. some horrified. this is driving the debate. it is a rorschach test, to some degree. if you are a trump supporter you say see this and say, yes, they should be going home. sit a crisis because they haven't gone the support they needed. >> you look at these striking, unsettling images. it puts everyone into their own
partisan corners. they will use the border challenges to say this is why we need tougher immigration laws. we need to close these so-called asylum loopholes. we need to get them back to central america. democrats will say this is why we need more funding. we need to have a more generous immigration policy. democrats going far to the left to say they want to decriminalize border crossings. we want to roll back the policies of the trump administration. while the images are very noteworthy, how much it changes the debate in washington is hard to tell. . >> any talk about 2020 and going to the left, that's what the president's point is. he is trying to engage democrats. there is a liberal left-leaning discussion going on inside the democratic presidential primary that may benefit the president in the general election year. this is all a little bit.
in reference to the question does achievement matter, that is an open question. he is the president. he is in charge of all of this, and it's happening on his watch. the blaming is difficult. there is no question he is trying to, i believe, engage the democrats. and that's working to some degree. . >> yeah. look, you bring it up. as hard right or as aggressively as they have gone, they have done the exact inverse. health care for undocumented immigrants. decriminalize unauthorized border crossings. the progressive movement heavy toward abolish i.c.e. it says one where side goes the other side goes the polar opposite. you brought up the census issue. somebody who wants to play to his base so much, take a listen to this quote. did the president back down on this? listen. >> not only didn't i back down,
i backed up. anybody else would have given this up a long time ago. the problem is we had three very unfriend lip courts. so the printing has started. and we're already finding out who the citizens are and who they're not. and i think more accurately. so when i heard this i said i think that's actually better. i think what we're doing is actually better. >> no, he did back down. >> yeah in plan b is so much better than plan a. >> his quote there, there are colonels of truth. there are ways for the gunman currently to figure out people who are citizens and people who are not citizens without this question in the census. he is incorrect in that he backed down. we heard attorney general bob barr explain in a pretty detailed way that they didn't have time to prosecute this question and that the census, which is, you know, a very important piece of information throughout several government
agencies for health reasons, political apportionment, that was at risk of being delayed if they were going to push this question further. but to your point earlier on what gets solved here, trump will keep fighting. it is very important for the base to see him fight. but where do any of these immigration issues get solved? especially, as you are pointing ow, the administration brought reporters to the border. they are images they think are helpful to them, that democrats see the exact opposite. when everyone is in their opposite corners here, there is not much room left for a compromise. >> immigration the last 10 years. i would note the census question, the answer ended up being what the census professional recommended from the very beginning. go figure. >> up next, a democratic family feud on capitol hill.
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rashida talib and presley. they believe it gives president trump too much money without restrictions. pelosi took the four to task questioning whether their influence extends much beyond their twitter pleads while pleading for party unity. you have a complaint, pelosi said at a closed door meeting. but do not tweet about our members and expect us to think that that is just okay. it spiraled down from there. ocasio-cortez questioned whether she was singling out the squad over race. president trump spoke out in pelosi's defense. then there was a swing at ocasio-cortez's chief of staff. on the stage at the net roots nation in philadelphia, congresswoman omar said she and allies have no intention of backing down. >> there's a constant, i think, struggle oftentimes with people
who have power about sharing that power. and we are not really in the business of asking for the share of that power. we're in the business of trying to grab that power and return it to the people. >> the court really perfectly encapsulates how the tpnew feel. i was on the hill all last week. this is real. . >> this is very much in disarray. can you remember the last time a formal house democratic caucus called out a staff member so publicly like that? i can't. it seems unheard of. a lot of this i think is coming from two fundamental different world views. you and i covered nancy pelosi. she is acutely focused on how to
count votes. how many counts does one member bring. that's what she was told to when she told the "new york times". but for these members of the squad, they have gathered their power through the outside and the movement they have been able to create. they see their power in a phupbd fundamentally different fashion. we're going to be having a lot more fights in the coming weeks as tensions intensify over impeachment, climate issues. a litany of other issues just hanging out there but haven't yet been accomplished. >> there's different paeutsz of power and different goals. the idea is to keep them reigned in for a singular focus. you see how personal the attacks get. another column who found herself right in the middle of all of this. rahm emanuel, former chief of staff to president obama, not a
huge friend of progress if's sometimes said alexandria ocasio-cortez is a not-nosed punk. you should be so lucky to learn from somebody like nancy, who has shown incredible courage and who has twice returned the democratic party to power. and then the base of the democratic party looks a lot more like aoc and pressly than nancy pelosi or chuck schumer. >> it is not the same as the justice democrats and people on twitter. it is a different universe. that is i think that sometimes isn't recognized. rahm emanuel is an old school dem in every way. but he knows how to win elections. he has won several himself and has been a part of that. he believes this shift in the party is bad for democrats overall and it will help re-elect the president. we will see about this.
i think this -- and this is something that speaker pelosi has dealt with many, many things. she knows how to deal with the president. she knows how to do a lot of things. i'm not sure where this goes. it is not in her interest to see it kept alive. sit shocking to see the disrespect for the younger members. >> and staffers are getting involved in this as well. i do want to make -- someone made a brass attacks point where speaker pelosi is coming down. the reason they have the majority, comes here. what you're looking is how clinton or trump did in various districts. what i circled is kind of the middle ground. the new members of the democratic caucus are coming from plates that either hillary clinton won by five or less or president trump won by five or less. those are the majority makers. that is the reason speaker pelosi is currently speaker of the house. that's where her votes are when she wants to move something
forward. the others are way out on the other side, very blue districts, safe districts. at this point in time they aren't bringing votes to the table to demand changes in things. that's, more than anything else, to the speaker of the house. >> for decades, nancy pelosi was the san francisco firebrand that was the star of every republican tech ad. now she is the patron saint of moderate bluedom. but one piece we haven't mentioned is it a generational. this leadership is in their 70s. upper 70s in the case of leading two presidential candidates. and a young generation very eager to beatdown the doors. some of it is eye tee logical in where they think the party should go in terms of immigration, like we were talking about earlier in the show. and this idea of new leadership and how much a more diverse
representation matters. >> yeah. don't get it twisted. they were sent here to break things and change things. but the question is do they have the votes to force that to happen? >> is joe biden finally ready to return fire? and what about the voters. ? jeff zeleny after a biden townhall. for me he can walk across the aisles and bring people together. part of the message is our country is fractured and it needs to be pulled back together. and i think he's that guy. >> he's not my number one choice. i would rather see a younger, fresher female base. at visionworks, we guarantee you'll see great
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joe biden remains the early 2020 front-runner. but his shrinking lead in the polls and shaky performance on the campaign trail are complicating his general election focus strategy. cnn poll of polls shows biden at 25%, town 7 points since the end of may. kamala harris and elizabeth warren are up eight points jumping into a three-way tie with parpbdz for second place. it makes him a big target and his rivals certainly are not holding back. . >> the we're on a debate stage. and if you have not prepared and you're not ready for somebody to point out a difference of opinion about the history of segregation in our country, then you're probably not ready. >> the if you voted for the wall street bailout, the bankruptcy bill, if you are taking a moderate approach, not dealing with the real issues facing poor people or working people, are
you going to create that excitement? you know what, i'm going out and i'm voting for that guy. >> until now, biden let the attacks go unanswered. on friday, however, biden accused some of his rivals of not telling the truth about what medicare for all really means. >> now, bernie has been very honest about it. he said you have to raise taxes for the middleclass, end all private insurance. he was straightforward about it. and he's making his case. . >> (inaudible). >> well, so far not. >> jeff zeleny was on the trail with the former vice president. you have to draw distinctions in a big race, particularly when it's this fall, when the target is on on your back. where is your sense now where the vice president is in this process? >> he is inching up to doing it. he hasn't quite done it yet. but you know that's where this is headed. i asked him directly there if senator harris has been forth coming about her health care plan. . >> actually, wait.
we have that sound. we'll play that sound. take a listen. >> has senator harris been forth coming enough about her ideas to abolish it or not? . >> i'll let you guys make that judgment. . >> he didn't say no. i was struck with the former vice president, he's still very comfortable where he is on this. but he's defending obamakaras he wraps himself in every bit of obama that he can. he talks about health care a lot. and he says it's not the moment to start from scratch. when you talk to voters, there is a sense out there, even those who don't necessarily favor joe biden's policies and not their first choice, he is still an acceptable alternative. biden is doing more interviews this week. campaigning more. july has been much more muscular, if you will, how he
shows up in the debate at the end of this month here on cnn. that is the question for his candidacy going forward. he is beginning to draw distinctions but doesn't necessarily want to get in the mud specifically with all of these folks because he is still the front-runner. . >> if you look at the end of june right after the debate, the electability has been the vice president's key component of his campaign, his numbers closed up a lot. voters beating trump, biden 23%. harris, 18%. elizabeth warren, 18%. it's been a month since that poll. there will be another debate. but is that a problem for him? . >> of course it's a problem. that is the fund mental central argument. >> i ask probing questions. >> it is important to emphasize how much this is a shift in strategy for the former vice president. jeff and i were both there during his opening events in iowa, in new hampshire. and he was not taking questions from the press. he was just coming in to
whatever hour a day. it was a rose garden kind of strategy for someone who had not been in the rose garden for eight years. it was an interesting choice. he wanted to present himself as the closest thing to the establishment pick and do it that way. now there is a recognition among his team and among him that that is not working. he needs to be more aggressive. the question is whether he starts going after people by name. does he hit back hard in the debate? there's a risk to that. there is a risk of losing the sense that he is the front-runner in the race. although i don't know how you have a front-runner when you are so far out from the first round of voting. >> there was a poll that reuters that showed what everybody's second choice would be. we all have in our minds a narrative of what the lanes are. if you're not voting for x, you would certainly be voting for y. i was particularly interested in
this. for biden, 29% bernie sanders. for sanders, the second choice 32% for biden. for harris, it would be warren. for warren, harris. i'm intrigued about i that. i feel that's not necessarily the way we have kind of formatted it in our heads. >> you saw kamala harris go hard after joe biden in the debates and continuing on. warren has been going for that slice of voters. he hasn't done it quite so well.
when senator booker said he needs to apologize on working with the segregation i have thes. he said he needs to apologize. and when kamala harris went after her in the debate, he cut himself off. he said my time is out. >> it shows women face a tougher path to viability. part of what may be happening is voters are looking at these two women and beginning to see them more as viable candidates. and that is something that is very dangerous for biden and bernie sanders. they could have been benefiting from innate stereotypes of women running for office. >> yeah. >> and that may be sort of going away. >>? it's a race. it's still early. and there is still a big debate coming up at the end of the month. a lot more coming up on here on "inside politics".
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we have our eye on the gulf coast where tropical storm barry hasn't finished causing trouble in louisiana. the center of the storm came in on sunday. it is moving very slowly. heavy rain and flooding will remain a problem all day. and tornados are possible across louisiana, mississippi, western alabama and eastern arkansas. everybody, be safe. we're going to transition to something else, back to what we discussed earlier, the feud between nancy pelosi and progressive democrats
the show. president trump is, again, weighing in this morning. racially charged language. i want to read this to you. so interesting to see progressive democrat congresswomen, who originally came from the countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world if they have a functioning government at all, enough loudly and viciously telling the people of the united states, the greatest and most powerful
nation on earth, how our government is to be run. why don't they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. then come back and show us now it is done. these places need your help badly you can't leave fast enough. an impressive story of coming to the united states, that's ilhan omar. the rest were born in the united states. i have no idea what he's talking
about. it seems out of line. you cover the president. >> i'm not sure i understand. i've been sitting here on set while this tweet came out. you can see where this is going to go. it's going to go a number of different ways. for one, you mentioned omar. omar is from somalia. somalia was on the list of muslim majority kuntz that trump wanted to ban immigrants from. that will certainly be a part of the story. to look from the eyes of the oval office, this is one way -- trump wanted to solve some of these immigration issues by going back to countries of origin. the caravans coming up through central america and mexico. countries like guatemala and honduras he wanted to handle the problems within their own borders. but that is going to be definitely overshadowed by just what you're talking about, this sort of racially charged aspect here of what sounds like go back
where you came from. >> and, look, she is an american citizen. she was elected by the constituents in her district. there are a lot of issues, problematic inside her own party she has had. but come on, man, come on. >> up next, another member of trump's cabinet bites the dust. o end alzheimer's disease. but what if, one day, there was a white flower for alzheimer's first survivor? what if there were millions of them? join us for the alzheimer's association walk to end alzheimer's. register today at alz.org/walk. but allstate actually helps you drive safely... with drivewise. it lets you know when you go too fast... ...and brake too hard. with feedback to help you drive safer. giving you the power to actually lower your cost.
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president trump has been in office for nearly two and a half years and his administration has seen unprecedented turnover inside his cabinet. labor secretary alex acosta is the latest to quit after coming under fire for a plea deal he made a decade ago with accused sex trafficker jeffrey epstein when acosta was u.s. attorney. i'll walk you through the magical mystery tour that is president trump's cabinet. here are the 15 levels. here is where president trump started. you see a lot of familiar faces. faces that are no longer there. you don't grasp how much the turnover has been until you look at the original group. you will see faces change. dhs changed over. and three don't have a face. that's because they have acting officials that are currently running them. the turnover has not only unsettled the agencies themselves but the agency as a whole. you want to know why it turned
over? this is when i talk to republicans on capitol hill. a number of departures were because individuals were forced out because they faced scandal, perceived scandal. in the resignation in protest of jim mattis. two left amicably. nikki haley and mcmahon. more cab let level turnover in trump's term than any breder is over the course of their first full year. president obama left one two and a half years in. so it gives you an idea how quickly it has turned over. the president has been pushing back out. in acosta's case, maybe that wasn't the case. >> he's done a fantastic job. he's a friend of everybody in the administration.
this is a person that i've gone to know. there hasn't been an ounce of controversy at the department of labor until this came up. and he's doing this not for himself. he's doing this for the administration. alex, i think you will agree. i said, you don't have to do this. he doesn't have to do this. >> i think by all accounts it was an accurate representation of what happened. i want to bring up a graphic of the white house, too. this is where you live most days. of all the departures they have had, three chiefs of staff, three national security advisers, three press secretaries, five communications directors. three legislative affairs directors. how much does this actually matter on the day-to-day? >> it matters hugely. to bring back accomplishments. it is hard to get anything done when you have this kind of turnover inside the executive office and at a cabinet level. and, two, this is one thing that
not only sort of general americans, middle of the road americans but also president trump's base is turned off by. there is a sense of chaos inside the white house. not his twitter personality, which a lot of people put up with. but the sense of turnover, the sense that things aren't moving as smoothly. that's where you see trump's numbers dip. >> take a look at what's going on with the pentagon and. department of homeland security. office after office filled by people who aren't confirmed. you're on the hill. you talked to republicans who are unsettled by this. why? >> they are. because, first of all, it diminishes their own role of advice and consent. in a lot of these key important positions, especially dealing with national security and foreign policy, you want to send a message out to the world not only does the president approve but a majority or phrma skwrort of the senate. when you're an acting federal
you don't send that message at large. >> the big thing is the defense secretary. the country couldn't get along without a permanent labor secretary. the fact that there are still acting secretaries in key positions it is a very unstable view internally and how the world is looking here at this government. it is probably one of the biggest stories of this administration the fact that there are so many acting, shifting musical chairs. >> yeah. one quick thing. the insults as to former cabinet officials that come up as to why they might be done. tillerson, dumb as i rock. mattis, what's he done for me? how had he done in afghanistan? not too good. sloppy steve has been dumped like a dog by almost everyone. it's his prerogative. our reporters share from their notebooks next, including beto
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. time for our reports to share a page from the notebook to help you get out in front of the week ahead. >> i'll watch closely for any signs of movement on the u.s./mexico/canada trade deal, it is one of the top priorities of the trump administration and they have to get it done this year because it becomes more difficult in an election year for the president -- he was touting the benefits of the trade deal in wisconsin last week. very important in these tates such as iowa and wisconsin, very important to his re-election bid but the fate lies in the hands of the speaker nancy pelosi and she's meeting with robert
lighthizer and that is a meeting closely watched for signs of movement. >> that is difficult. >> and these are difficult days for beto o'rourke. we're on the eve of the fundraising deadline for the candidates to report money and he's yet to report. i'm told by a couple of top supporters familiar with his financial situation that it is bleak and a few staffers have begun leaving el paso. he's still in the fight and campaigning. out at new hampshire over the weekend but the question is how long is he going to be able to stay in this race. he's going to have to lean his operation if he wants to continue. he has a lot of high-power, high-paid staff members so there are discussions going on in el paso, i'm told, as to the next step is. he's committed to staying in but not the summer he envisioned. >> if you haven't reported your numbers yet, not a great sign. >> and president trump is in north carolina on wednesday, the first campaign since the kickoff in orlando and he's not going to have bob mueller to tee off on, the congressional hearing
scheduled for that day has been postponed. so what is he going to say? president trump hasn't made news at this event for months but the supporters pack them to the rafters regardless. i would pay closer attention as we move into 2020 to how long his fans keep showing up to see the greatest hits than any hypothetical national head-to-head polls. >> good question. lisa. >> so this coming week we'll be a year out from the democratic national convention and i spent time looking better at pennsylvania and wisconsin and virginia and the states that hillary clinton lost and what is striking talking to democratic voters and officials and politicians is how much the party is infected with a case of ptsd from that election and that moons over the field but at the same time there is no consensus about why it happened so depending on who you talk to you'll hear that hillary clinton talked about president trump too much or not enough. that it was white working class
voters or unmotivated and then inability to energize the base. so how the questions are resolved is the terrain that the 2020 primary is being fought over and whether they are resolved is the lingering question that democrats face when they get to the convention next year. >> no question. one year. >> and treasury secretary steve mnuchin sent a jolt when he informed lawmakers the u.s. may run out of cash at the beginning of september and that is a month earlier than rejected and it came with a question, raise the debt ceiling before the house leaves town july 26th and after five calls in six days between steve mnuchin and nancy pelosi and the complications that shut down talks weeks ago and with the defense side a white house negotiating team that doesn't operate with a single voice, a democratic caucus that is splipterring over immigration and a president that can be, shall we say, unpredictable haven't disappeared just because
there is an earlier deadline. now i asked the speaker this past week if she was optimistic the new dynamics and urgency would lead to a deal and successful vote before the august recess. her response, i'm realistic and asked what that is at this point, her three-word response teed up just how big the next week will be and what will short order be the biggest story in washington and on always. we'll see soon. that is it for "inside politics", catch us week days at noon eastern. up next, "state of the union" with jake tapper and his guests include candidate bill de blasio and one of the top immigration officials ken cuccinelli. have a great day.
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