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that tape playing? >> now you will slap me down and say i'm excusing bad thoughts, however, i don't blame people for how they feel when it comes from an honest place of disenfranchiseme disenfranchisement, concerns about disaffection, being left behind. now they can be factually incorrect, they can be misplacing the blame for their own situation, but i get the emotional connection. the president didn't make that up. he is just taking advantage of it. >> he's manipulating them, too. >> he is. that's why i always say, you've heard me say a hundred times. don't sleep on the disaffection and the fear, it's real. we have a problem with race in this country. i do nt have to tell you that. racism is overstated. >> this is funny because you're saying a similar thing to -- i was watching trevor nolan last night. frustration doesn't make you racist. >> true. >> it may -- >> it makes you susceptible -- >> but it doesn't make you
scream, send her back. it doesn't make you say racist things because you're frustrated or you're upset or you're disenfranchised. >> it depends. >> you've been frustrated. >> it depends. >> you've been upset. >> i know. >> have you ever said racist things? >> i have a unique upbringing. i was born and raised in a place that was full of diversity and socioeconomic. >> so hasn't the president? >> yeah, damn right he was. he was from blocks away from where i am. >> that's right. >> he knows better. he knows better than what he's selling to these people and that's why i put it on him. you can say, look, you are saying two things at once. you're saying racism is a problem in the country but these people aren't racists. that's not what i'm saying. i'm saying there's a broader group and i think it's potent. >> i think it's working. i'll give you that. the internal polling for the democratic party shows that it is working for, number one, karen finney had a very good
point last night, is that people don't want to -- they figure if they admit that he's racist, then that's admitting that they are racist. >> right. >> because they support him. >> right. >> and they would much rather say, well, instead of being racist, well, i don't -- i -- why don't you speak english instead of i don't like. >> two different things, one, it's what you're saying. two, they want him to win because they benefit from it so they will ignore what he's selling. that's just as big a problem. are there enough racist people in this country for him to win? i say no but you combine those people with an unusual sense of loyalty and motivation with people who are fearful and believe that he is their best chance at disruption and improvement and the democrats playing with extremes on policies and making themselves susceptible with the title of being a socialist, now you have
a very potent combination that can make it hard to take him out. >> what happens if someone comes in and says all of those people, hey, you've got to go back to ireland. you've got to go back to germany, sweden, russia? they started telling all of those people in the crowd where they came from, why don't you go back from the terrible places that you came from, aren't we supposed to be the shining light and beacon on the hill? >> absolutely. we are the white plume showing the way is up. >> here's the problem, the paradox. each wave has gone through this here, but it doesn't stop them from doing it to the next one. >> everyone wants to shut the door. >> it was the english, it was the irish, it was the germans. then they made it through. who came? my people. they got beat down by those same groups. then the italians made it through. then sfwhapd you had new waves of latinos, ka rib beans. >> i grew nup that, don. i grew up in queens there were so many italians. culture bias, insulation and
ignorance. they held bigoted views. every wave goes through and it just doesn't stop them from being better than that, and that's why we're vulnerable to this. i want to make sure people see it for what it is. it's definition. >> it's really, really satd to watch. you, i thought it was getting to you. i can't believe this is where we are, but yet we are. we're here. it's working for him. >> i'm never more dangerous than when i'm hurt. >> i've got to run. this is what i think though for the democratic party. either they play into this, right, by continuing to go down this thing with the four women, with nancy pelosi and all of that or they realize that they're going to win on policies, on policies instead of
on issues like racism. very important issue, don't get me wrong, i'm an african-american man in this country, but i think those women have to realize that they must be strategic and their voices are very important. what they're saying in many levels is important, but as my mentor used to tell me, frieda over at nbc used to tell me all the time. cool your jets. this was when i was a little correspondent. cool your jets. you're going to go up against management. wait until you get there. once you get your butt in that seat, here i am, butt is in the seat now, then you can say whatever you want, which is you have earned the right to be strategic until you get to the place. >> boerksy oh, boy they will sl all kinds of labels on you, patriarchy. >> it's true. strategies. you have to read the room. know where you are in the moment. if you really think this person in the white house -- if they believe that, because that's
what they said, then you should read the room, know where you are. if you get -- when and if you get him out of the white house, then you do your stuff. that's all i'm saying. >> they will only win -- all we want is a fair fight. they will only win if they offer something better. health care, yes, it's a metaphor issue for people, it's about security, but they have to offer something better. >> you won't get what you want in health care if you have the wrong person in the white house. >> that's right but the message and mess seng ger have to come together. only light can turn out darkness. >> i have to run. my producers are like, you're killing us. >> your butt's in the chair. better be a big chair. >> not as big as yours. >> this is cnn tonight. i'm don lemon. he's at it again. the president at his campaign rally in north carolina tonight slamming four congress women of color. railing against each one of them
by name and, by the way, that was scripted in the teleprompter. then doubling down on his love it or leave it refrain. >> so these congress women, their comments are helping to fuel the rise of a militant hard left, but that's okay because we're going to win this election like nobody's ever seen before. and tonight i have a suggestion for the hate-filled extremists who are constantly trying to tear our country down. if they don't like it, let them leave. let them leave. let them leave. >> well, that as the president is still trying to convince you that his go back where you came from attack on the women who call themselves the squad, that it isn't racist. it is racist. it is. that's not all it is. it is a blatant, calculated
strategy. pay close attention. sources are telling cnn that the president thinks his attacks are a winning -- are a winner politically and he plans to keep it up. he said so himself as he was leaving the white house today. >> i do think i'm winning the political fight. i think i'm winning it by a lot. i think they are not espousing the views of our country, the four congress women. >> if that's not clear enough for you, there is this, okay? spell it out for you again. stay with me here. the president tweeting earlier that trump numbers, i have no idea, trump numbers, quote, have recently gone up to four points by 50%. thank you to the vicious young socialist congress women. america will never buy your act.
#maga 2020. he told you what this is all about when i said you read the room, be strategic, this is all about 2020. and then there's this. tweeting a not at all subtle message, america, one squad, under god. get it? his son eric trump flying the flag too telling fox news this -- >> 95% of this country is behind him in this message. i mean, people love this nation. >> okay. 95% behind the president? not even close. this is what our cnn polling is showing just a few weeks ago found that 43% approve of how the president is handling his job and then there's the trump critic turned defender, senator lindsey graham who according to a reporter from nbc news said, quote, i really do believe that if you're a somali refugee who likes trump, he's not going to say go back to somalia.
a racist says go back to somalia because you're a somalian, or you're a muslim or whatever. that's just the way he is. more narcissism than anything else. later going on to say, i really do believe if you support him, it's different than if you don't. it's not about being from somalia, it's about whether you support him or not. here's the thing, you can't sweep the president's racist comments under the rugby making excuses for why he said it. he said something racist because he was frustrated, because -- you can't make any excuse for something that's racist. this is why he said it. he said it. and what he said was racist. lindsey graham will try to tell you otherwise, but 2015 lindsey graham, something's very different. >> he's a race baiting
xenophobic religious bigot. >> where is that lindsey graham? while the president apparently couldn't be happier about how his racist attacks are playing with his supporters, all of this presents, this is what chris and i were talking about, all of this presents a very big problem for nancy pelosi, the speaker of the house, and her party. >> the president is clearly trying to cast this broader debate as a choice between him and your more progressive members. this fight has now dominated the conversation this week. you've had your resolution. the democrats are rallying behind these members. are you concerned that the president is goading you? >> no. you know what, with all due respect, let's not waste our time on that. we're not having him set our agenda, we're setting our own agenda. >> that's exactly the problem for the speaker. more the president doubles down on this racist attack, the more democrats fight back, the more attention is taken away from their agenda.
one democratic lawmaker telling cnn that members in a closed door meeting today heard a report from internal polling showing that their best argument against this president is that he's ineffective and standing in the way of progress on issues like jobs and infrastructure. that polling showed that what doesn't work for them is being pulled in, being drawn in to fights with the president. damned if they do, damned if they don't. strategic. but like i said last night, this is about taking a stand against the racism of the president of the united states, against comments like, quote, why don't they go back and help fit the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. make no mistake, that is racism. don't fall for it.
those words don't come out of your mouth or your tweets if that's not in your heart. it's also disgustingly cynical using hate to play politics. we've seen it before. there's no better example than the racist birther lie that this president used from the very beginning of his presidential career. it's a birther lie that barack obama was not born in this country. >> i want him to show his birth certificate. >> why? >> there is something on that birth certificate that he doesn't lie. >> people have birth certificates. he doesn't have a birth certificate. he may have one, there's something on that -- maybe religion, maybe it says he's a muslim, i don't know. if he wasn't born in this country, which is a real possibility -- i'm not saying it happened, then he has pulled one of the great cons in the history of politics. >> that was 2011. when someone shows you it, they are. recently president obama
released his long form birth certificate. did that stop donald trump? >> a lot of people do not think it was an authentic certificate. >> how can you say that -- >> they may not report it, wolf, but many people do not think it was authentic. his mother was not in the hospital. there are many other things that came out and, frankly, if you would report it accurately, i think you'd probably get better ratings than you're getting. >> finally, september 2016 trump said this -- >> president barack obama was born in the united states, period. >> yet he reportedly clings to the birther lie today. brace yourself. you're going to hear more disgusting manipulative garbage today. if you think he learned his lesson, he did. the lesson of 2016 when hate and divisiveness helped him win the white house. it worked in 2016, but it fails
spectacularly in 2018. let's not forget that utterly racist divisive campaign ad right before the mid-terms stoking fear of immigrants with images of crowds of people in unknown locations who were never identified. it didn't work last year when a blue wave of democrats took control of the house. it didn't work then. it wasn't on the ballot specifically. the question is, will it happen in 2020? will it work? president stirred up the crowd tonight with his attacks on the congresswoman omar and they responded, send her back. could the comments turn dangerous? we'll dig into it next. (vo) the insurance institute for highway safety rates vehicles for safety, and some reach a level of top safety pick. but only a select few of the very safest vehicles are awarded
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good evening, one and all. >> i am a ryan. >> you are the ryan. so, frank, president trump is going all in on attacking these four congress women. i want you to watch this. >> when you see the four congress women, oh, isn't that lovely? representative omar. representative rashida tlaib. representative alexandria ocasio-cortez. representative ayanna pressley. i have a suggestion for the hate-filled extremists who are constantly trying to tear our country down. they never have anything good to say. that's why i say, hate. if they don't like it, let them leave. let them leave.
let them leave. they don't love our country. i think in some cases they hate our country. and they're so angry. >> are these attacks dangerous? >> yeah. no, i mean, it's funny as i listened to him do that earlier i thought -- i actually was afraid for the four women because i think he's encouraging people to hate them. >> he has the best security in the world and they don't, no. >> they don't, no. do you think he cares? forget about the four women. these attacks are dangerous for the country. what he is doing is decide be to be as device viv as possible. to create as much mellow drama as possible because he thinks that's the atmosphere in which he thrives and which he wins. he'll take the torch to it all. he's happy to be the king of ashes. his campaign slogan shouldn't be make america great, it should be burn, baby, burn. >> i almost hate playing the sound bites because they're
so -- >> they're ugly. i can't believe how ugly they're getting. i hope the american people can see this for what they are. this is not spontaneous. it was on the teleprompter. i wrote after that tweet came out, he is trying to make these four congress women his opponents. he doesn't want to run against whoever the democratic party nominates. he wants them to define the party. as you and chris were discussing, the democratic spaert in a pickle. the only right and moral thing to do is stand by these four women, don't attack them. but they can't be defined. >> nancy pelosi at every turn is we don't want to define -- we're doing our strategy, our policies and our agenda and let's move on. she keeps getting asked and she keeps getting drawn back into it every time someone says something. every time one of these congress women says something. >> she has to be much firmer about it. we in the media have to help her. it's not just the democratic
leadership that can't move on and responding. we keep asking them to respond. we need, everyone here needs to stop giving donald trump every iota of attention that he seeks because he does get it. then we end up having his conversation and not another one and he wins. >> as the polling shows for the democrats, instead of policy i'm told he wins again. the crowd responds by booing. here it is. >> omar has a history of launching vish shugs ain't-is he met tuck screens. >> send ter lack. send her back. send her back. >> so we started out by talking about the president's tweets were racist. this week we saw that, april. now the crowd is chanting, you know, send her back. i mean, what the hell?
>> this is america in 2019, a trump america. it is a sad day when you have an elected member of congress or four elected members of congress who are black and brown women, who are speaking their truths and -- about issues that the president doesn't want them talk against, meaning immigration, and for him to target them. for omar, she's been under fire by this president and her words have caused controversy and have been in headlines. she's apologized, but this president realizes and understands that there is a sentiment against her. he is playing on that. he's playing on her race. he's playing on her gender. he's playing on bt fact that she
is a woman who came from africa. she is here now. it's ugly, and what the big concern is in the midst of all of this, even as she tweets, you know, maya angelou, and still i arrived. she has apologized. there was a resolution against her comments but she is now trying to figure out how to protect herself and her family. she's been under watch with security for a while. >> yeah. >> now it's ramped back up. it's not just her. it's the three others as well. >> yeah. well, i mean, as frank said, it's dangerous for her beyond just the four women and we hope they're safe and it's dangerous for america. daniel, i have to say the president falsely accused congresswoman ilhan omar.
watch this. >> omar laughed that americans speak about them and remarked, you don't say america with this intensity, you say al qaeda, it makes you proud. al qaeda makes you proud. you don't speak that way about america. >> daniel, again, this is false. >> this is false and i want to be as clear as possible about this because i think this is one of the most egregious false claims trump has made. ilhan omar did not praise al qaeda. she did not say that as trump said earlier this week. this is what happened. she did a 2013 interview on a local minnesota pbs program where the host was confusing about why americans used arabic words for things like al qaeda, al shabab rather than the english translation which would be less scary. she agreed with this. she said it's about creating a
scary intensity and chuckling she said she had a professor in college who would say the name al qaeda and tense up and he wouldn't speak with the same intensity about america or england. so there are things to criticize there. i've seen people criticize her by saying she shouldn't laugh at all when talking about people's reactions to al qaeda. she shouldn't say there is some equivalence to al qaeda and america and england but to say she praised al qaeda isn't truth. >> say that again. say that again. >> frank, i'm going to get you and april in here. we're also going to talk about where the rubber meets the road for the democrats after this and what their internal polling is showing. we'll be right back. award winning interface. award winning design. award winning engine. the volvo xc90.
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back with me now. you wanted to make a point, frank, before going to break. >> yeah. i don't hear people saying it that donald trump accused representative omar of being an antis anti-semiti anti-semitism. donald trump defended the marchers in charlottesville. among the things that they were chanting, if i recall correctly, was jews will not replace us. >> blood and soil. >> he defended them. he on twitter has coddled, accepted the support of many white nationalists who are vi virulently anti-semetic. his hands aren't clean. >> april, dana bash spoke to a house democratic leader where they saw internal polling
showing the best way to defeat him and what doesn't work, fights on impeachment, fights on race. do you think the democrats can be disciplined enough to stick to this? >> you know, they're disciplined enough to stick to this, but the issue is will it stick? it's like this president -- no one's found the kryptonite for this president. we have seen time and time again you think you have something, you throw a piece of spaghetti up against the wall and it just falls off. but the bottom line is as this president is ginning up all of this animosity, racial hate, to stay on topic is very hard. we've had infrastructure every week since he's come into office. infrastructure week. what's happened? when the president had manufacturers talking about manufacturing in america when we
know he's had products made over seas, the issue is he's bringing up the squatter poor. so the president gets off point and everyone else gets off point. >> that's the kryptonite, april. >> it's hard to stay on april. >> that's the crypto night. frank said it just before the break is that -- to not let him manipulate the news cycle, the conversation, show shiny objects. that is -- i think that's the kryptonite. listen, daniel, let's talk about the issues here. health care is a huge issue going into 2020. the president made this false claim tonight. watch this. >> patients with pre-existing conditions are protected by republicans much more so than protected by democrats who will never be able to pull it off. >> again, false, daniel. >> this is extraordinarily
false, don. this is like up is down stuff. democrats pulled it off already in obamacare. democrats installed these very protections for people with previous health care conditions. it is trump and others who have repeatedly tried to weaken those protections and they haven't stopped. there's currently a lawsuit making its way through the courts backed by the trump administration trying to get the entire obamacare law null and void. trump has not presented any plans to prevent people with pre-existing conditions in the event that suit wins. >> i'm listening to him as daniel rightly pointed out not true. trump's super power is he will claim and say anything. his super power is shamelessn s shamelessness. we have people who are prepared to be that shameless. he will say and do anything in the service of his victory and
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i don't profess to know what the answer is. it was a big factor in the election in 2016 and try to make it so in 2020. i would think that those who make the decisions, particularly major television networks and newspapers, it's more judicious. the democrats, i think it's smarter and it's bolder and more aggressive. i don't understand why democrats haven't selected a spokesman or several spokesmen who every time the president says something to come up with and speak out. what they do is one or the other and sometimes they have nobody which is not smart politics. >> you tweeted you didn't know
how the politics is going to play out. i do believe the vast majority of americans want to believe this is not who we will be. how will we know if the majority of americans are accepting the president's racism. >> we'll find out at the ballot box in the 2020 election. i don't think we'll find out before then. that will be the mood, we will answer whether we aspire to be a whole lot better or whether it will go back to make america white again. this is blatant racism. there's no other word for it. i know that will make some people uncomfortable. i know there's been some reluctance by certain news organizations not to use the word racism, but if you look at what he said and he's repeated it several times since then, there's no other word to actually describe it. >> i'm glad you said it because this is what he tweeted. the president's cruelty is matched by the cowardness of his neighbors who inflict just as much damage on this nation and its ideals.
men and women in elected office shouldn't get a presumption of normalcy. they must answer for their silence in the face of bigotry and misogyny. there's the idea that trump has normalized racism. >> we better hope that he has not normalized racisracism. i hate to go back to yesteryear. there's similarities between the president and george wallace. he had his day. remember, he carried five southern states in the presidential election of 1968 i think it was. but in the end the tide of time and history left him in the dust because the american people floated with what george wallace
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look at those pictures. those people ought to be ashamed of those photographs. i do think the same thing will happen for people shouting. i think that cheer didn't just come up spontaneously. it has all the earmarks of a very good campaign advance man saying, what do we have? lock her up. what else? we have to see clearly if president trump sees these four young congress women as his ticket to ride in 2020. in his view, every time he goes on television and puts them out in front in an interview, any time they get space in the newspaper he thinks he wins. >> not always. >> not always. thank you. >> we'll be right back. when you start with a better that's no way to treat a dog... ...you can do no wrong. where did you learn that? the internet... yeah?
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for a limited time, join t-mobile and get the awesome iphone xr on us. tonight we know which 20 democratic presidential candidates will be on stage when cnn hosts two nights of debates on july 30th and 31st. i'll be moderating along with my colleagues dana bash and jake tapper. ten candidates will be on stage each debate night. i want to bring in chris cillizza to talk about which candidates will be participating. chris, it's a lot. so tell us who the 20 democratic candidates are that qualified for cnn democratic primary debates. >> okay, don. let's run through it. here we go in alphabetical order. michael bennet, colorado senator. joe biden, former vice president. cory booker, the senator from virginia. steve bullock, new to this debate. the governor of montana. south bend, indiana, mayor pete buttigieg. julian castro, the former mayor of san antonio.
the current mayor of new york city, bill de blasio. john delaney, former maryland congressman. tulsi gabbard, hawaii congresswoman. kirsten gillibrand from new york, a senator. we're halfway there, don. california senator kamala harris. former colorado governor john hickenlooper. governor jay inslee. senator amy klobuchar. vermont senator bernie sanders. massachusetts senator elizabeth warren, spiritual adviser marianne williamson and technologist and businessman andrew yang. that's all 20, don. >> and that's all we have time for. i'm kidding. boy, that is a lot. so you said we'd talk more later. so tell us about who did and didn't make the cut. >> sure. so 20 is the number that the dnc has said. so we have 20 in the first set
of debates and 20 in this two set of debates. there is one change. as i mentioned, montana governor steve bullock, he is now in. he is included in these debates. eric swalwell, a california congressman, he has dropped out of the race. he is out. so we have one in, bullock, and one out, swalwell. other than that, the other 18 were on the stage in the first set of debates. >> got it. so tomorrow night, 8:00 p.m. that's the time. cnn will conduct a live random drawing to conduct the candidate lineup for each night. how does that work? >> oh, man, the draw. okay. here's how it works. the candidates are split into three categories. there is a category of ten, there is a category of six and there is a category of four. the ten will go first. they will be picked -- a candidate's name will be picked from one box. a candidate's debate night will be picked from the other box. they'll be paired. so you will have five on one night, five on the other night. we'll then move to the second set of candidates, that's the
six. same things. we will move to the final four, the four last people, that's bernie sanders, that's elizabeth warren that's joe biden and that's kamala harris. same deal. their name from one box, their debate night from another box. so two from the first -- sorry, five from the first draw, three from the second draw, two from the last draw. so we'll have ten and ten, split up. we don't know who it will be yet. that's why you got to tune in. >> well, you got through that. thank you, sir. i appreciate it. >> thank you, don. don't miss cnn's live random drawing to determine the candidate lineup for each debate night. watch the draw tomorrow night at 8:00 eastern. it's on anderson's show it's during "ac 360." make sure you stay with cnn for the presidential democratic debates, live from detroit, dana bash, jake tapper and you know that guy in the middle, that's me, we will moderate. that's tuesday, july 30th and wednesday, july 31st at 8:00 p.m. eastern.
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